BRIEFING 10-01-96

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 10.1.1996

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. THLEMAXO XYTHRH

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Antikeimeno;

XYTHRHS: O k. Papoylias proebh xqes to brady, kata thn epistrofh toy apo to Parisi, se sxetikes dhlwseis, stis opoies kai sas parapempw. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, oi giatroi exoyn kanei enhmerwsh ston Prwqypoyrgo gia thn katastash ths ygeias toy; O Prwqypoyrgos exei zhthsei na toy ginei tetoia enhmerwsh;

XYTHRHS: Oxi, den gnwrizw.

ROYMPANHS: Qa hqela, parakalw, ena sxolio gia to shmerino arqro ths "ELEYQEROTYPI- AS".

XYTHRHS: Ayto poy exw na pw, einai to ejhs: Oti oson afora tis ejelijeis, yparxoyn diaforetikes gnwmes (kai proswpikes kai gnwmes oi opoies anagrafontai se efhmerides ypo th morfh arqrwn, sxoliwn k.lp.). Prepei na pw oti thn poreia twn ejelijewn aytwn qa syzhthsei to epishmo organo toy PASOK poy einai h Kentrikh Epitroph, stis 20 Ianoyarioy.

ROYMPANHS: Eseis, ws Kybernhsh, den exete kapoia apoch;

XYTHRHS: Ws Kybernhsh, to sxolio poy exw na kanw, einai oti leitoyrgoyme swsta ws Kybernhsh. Gnwrizete oti aytes tis meres syzhteitai sth Boylh h protash dyspistias ths Neas Dhmokratias. Prokeitai gia mia ypokritikh - qa elega - qesh apo meroys ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs. Kai h syzhthsh gia thn protash dyspistias - opws epishs gnwrizete - peratoytai apoce ta mesanykta me thn chfoforia poy qa diejaxqei. Kai h apanthsh poy qa doqei apo thn sympagh pleiochfia toy PASOK einai dedomenh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxoyn omws kai Ypoyrgoi ths Kybernhshs, oi opoioi lene oti den yparxei Prwqypoyrgos kai oti xreiazetai antikatastash toy. Dhladh, qelw na pw, oti ayta den ta leei mono h Antipoliteysh.

XYTHRHS: To oti yparxei ena problhma apo thn asqeneia toy Prwqypoyrgoy - ayto poy lete - einai gegonos. Kai to gnwrizoyme oloi mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai na symplhrwsw sthn erwthsh moy, syggnwmh poy sas diakoptw, plhqainoyn pleon oi fwnes mesa stoys kolpoys toy kybernwntos kommatos, oti xreiazetai antikatastash kai malista mesa ston mhna Ianoyario. Anaferomai stoys kyrioys Shmith, Tzoymaka, Peponh k.lp.

XYTHRHS: Mhn sygxeete ta pragmata. Sth Boylh syzhteitai h protash dyspistias ths Neas Dhmokratias. Ta opoia alla qemata poy sxetizontai me tis ejelijeis gia to problhma poy yparxei ths asqeneias toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths elleichs toy, qa syzhthqoyn sta organa toy Kinhmatos, opws einai h Kentrikh Epitroph, h opoia qa syzhthsei to olo qema stis 20 Ianoyarioy.

KARELIAS: S'ayth th sympagh pleiochfia - ths opoias anamenetai h dedomenh apanthsh kai h sthrijh ths pros thn Kybernhsh, opws mas eipate - fantazomai oti anagnwrizete to dikaiwma na parei opoiadhpote apofash meta tis 20 Ianoyarioy h oxi;

XYTHRHS: Anaferqhka mono sthn Kentrikh Epitroph, epeidh einai to anwtero organo toy Kinhmatos mas. Kai asfalws qa ginei kai sygklhsh ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas meta tis 20 Ianoyarioy.

KARELIAS: Ara, ayth h sympaghs koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia toy PASOK mporei na parei tote thn opoia apofash. Ths to anagnwrizete ayto to dikaiwma.

XYTHRHS: Anaferqhka kai stis dyo sygklhseis. Den einai tyxaio oti anaferqhka toso sth sygklhsh ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs stis 20 Ianoyarioy, oso kai sthn en synexeia sygklhsh ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas.

KARELIAS: Katalabate thn erwthsh moy;

XYTHRHS: Katalaba kai apantw.

MOYRTZHS: Na synexisw thn erwthsh toy kyrioy synadelfoy; Katalyths - oroshmo gia thn antikatastash toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai h 20h Ianoyarioy h symmerizesqe thn apoch toy k. Papoylia poy leei oti oi diadikasies mporei na trabhjoyn argotera;

XYTHRHS: Egw den lew ayta poy lete sthn erwthsh sas. Lew oti oi opoies apofaseis qa yparjoyn sthn Kentrikh Epitroph toy PASOK, opoy qa ginei h syzhthsh gia to problhma poy yparxei.

MOYRTZHS: Egw sas rwthsa kati to sygkekrimeno: Pisteyete, symfwna me thn apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy, oti katalyths - adiapragmateyto oroshmo gia thn antikatastash toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai h 20h Ianoyarioy h symmerizesqe thn apoch toy k. Papoylia poy leei oti oi diadikasies mporoyn na anatrapoyn apo ta pragmata, apo th beltiwsh ths ygeias toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

XYTHRHS: Loipon, h apanthsh moy einai h idia poy edwsa prin.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, shmera h efhmerida "ELEYQEROTYPIA", me to arqro ths, kalei toys boyleytes toy PASOK na chfisoyn enan kainoyrgio nomo...

XYTHRHS: Nai, to eida.

SOYGLERHS: Me sygxwreite, alla gia na ajiopoihsw thn prohgoymenws ypoblhqeisa erwthsh toy synadelfoy k. Roympanh, na chfisoyn loipon oi boyleytes toy PASOK enan kainoyrgio nomo kai na...

XYTHRHS: Apanthsa s'aythn thn erwthsh.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxei mia ermhneia kai qelw ena sxolio ep'ayths: Sygkekrimena legetai oti mporei men na sygklhqei h Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy PASOK afoy to apaitoyn ta melh ths, alla den mporei na parei apofash gia antikatastash toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Poio einai to diko sas sxolio ep'aytoy;

XYTHRHS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. Ta organa toy PASOK einai kai epishma (h Koinoboyleytikh Omada einai ena ap'ayta) kai asfalws, mporoyn na paroyn kai na syzhthsoyn qeseis kai mporoyn epishs na katalhjoyn. Den exw na kanw kanena peraiterw sxolio.

MIXAHL: Na rwthsw ep'aytoy akribws, dhladh sthn erwthsh toy k. Karelia: Synepws, anagnwrizete to dikaiwma ws Kybernhsh sthn Kentrikh Epitroph, alla kai sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada poy qa synelqei meta, na labei tis opoies apofaseis me opoia pleiochfia diamorfwqei, eite sthn Kentrikh Epitroph eite sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada.

XYTHRHS: Egw den lew kati tetoio. Lew oti syntetagmena ta epishma organa toy PASOK, mporoyn na sygklhqoyn kai mporoyn na syzhthsoyn kai na paroyn apofaseis gia opoio problhma.

SOYGLERHS: H kyria Basw Papandreoy se xqesinobradynh synenteyjh ths sto MEGA zhthse apo thn kommatikh hgesia na mh zhthsei apo ton k. Papandreoy kaqoloy na syzhthsoyn to qema gia antikatastash toy kai na proxwrhsei mesa apo ta organa toy kommatos.

XYTHRHS: Ayth einai mia apoch ths kyrias Basws Papandreoy. Ayto poy exoyme pei kai epanalambanw, einai - kai einai to epidiwkomeno, kai einai to swsto, kai einai to prepon - na zhthqei h apoch toy Proedroy toy Kinhmatos, toy idryth toy PASOK, toy Prwqypoyrgoy Andrea Papandreoy.

KARELIAS: Na rwthsw kati synafes;

XYTHRHS: Parakalw.

KARELIAS: H kyria Basw Papandreoy eipe oti an ginei ayto (dhladh antiproswpeia toy PASOK na syzhthsei me ton k. Papandreoy k.lp) qa einai mia megalh dokimasia gia ton idio ton Prwqypoyrgo. Ayth thn apoch ths kyrias Basws Papandreoy, th symmerizesqe kyrie Ypoyrge;

XYTHRHS: Eipame kai elpizoyme na ginei ayto. Kai eipame oti ayto ejartatai apo toys giatroys, oi opoioi kai qa to epitrecoyn.

MOYRTZHS: An den to epitrecoyn;

XYTHRHS: Ayto einai ypoqetiko. Emeis elpizoyme na ginei ayth h synanthsh.

BAREMENOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, isxyei h dhlwsh sas oti antikatastash toy Prwqypoyrgoy xwris th sygkataqesh toy, shmainei ektroph;

XYTHRHS: Na mhn epanerxomaste sta idia.

BAREMENOS: Oxi, den qelw na epanerxomaste.

XYTHRHS: Gi'ayto sas lew kai egw, na mhn epanerxomaste. Yparxei to syntagmatiko plaisio, to opoio kai syzhteitai kai epi toy opoioy diatypwnontai kai diafores ermhneies, diafores ekdoxes, opws gnwrizete, kaqenas leei thn apoch toy. Kai yparxei kai to Syntagma ayto kaqeayto, to opoio orizei rhta ta pragmata.

BAREMENOS: Epishs, h kyria Basw Papandreoy - to gnwrizete - diatypwse xqes thn apoch oti den prepei na erwthqei o Prwqypoyrgos, dioti malista - etsi eipe - qa rezileytei o Prwqypoyrgos.

XYTHRHS: Ayta einai sxolia dika sas.

BAREMENOS: Ma, kyrie Ypoyrge, ayta ta eipe h idia h kyria Basw Papandreoy.

XYTHRHS: Sas apanthsa.

KOYIN: Symmerizesqe, kyrie Ekproswpe, thn apoch toy k. Koyloyrh, oti an den zhthqei h apoch toy k. Papandreoy, ayto isodynamei me patroktonia;

XYTHRHS: Emeis qewroyme oti einai aparaithto na exoyme th gnwmh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Ola ta alla einai sxolia.

ROYMPANHS: Einai desmeytiko ayto, dhladh ean den zhthqei h apoch toy Proedroy toy Kinhmatos, qa proxwrhsoyn oi diadikasies;

XYTHRHS: Pisteyoyme oti einai barynoysa h apoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Kai oloi to antilambanomeqa oti einai kai aparaithth na yparxei ayth h apoch.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Poioi eseis; Yparxei o k. Papoylias...

XYTHRHS: H Kybernhsh. Eimai Ekproswpos ths Kybernhshs.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Ma, edw yparxoyn diafores. H apoch sas proseggizei thn apoch toy k. Papoylia. To Ektelestiko Grafeio kai to PASOK...

XYTHRHS: To qema toy na syzhthsoyme me ton k. Papandreoy, einai mia apoch olwn.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Ma, kyrie Ypoyrge, den einai akribws etsi.

XYTHRHS: Sas parakalw!

KANELLOPOYLOS: Apantwntas prohgoymenws se erwthsh synadelfoy gia to an den exei th dynatothta na apanthsei o Prwqypoyrgos, th xarakthrisate ypoqetikh. Ypoqetiko omws einai kai h elpida, poy lete oti "elpizoyme... k.lp.". Ypoqetiko einai kai ayto.

XYTHRHS: Exete dikio.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Gia na jefygoyme ligo kai apo tis ypoqeseis, sygkekrimena erwtw: H apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy gia oristikh dromologhsh lyshs, isxyei gia thn Kybernhsh;

XYTHRHS: Se kaqe periptwsh...

KANELLOPOYLOS: Se kaqe periptwsh...

XYTHRHS: ... se kaqe periptwsh... Egw apantw.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Nai.

XYTHRHS: Se kaqe periptwsh, stis 20 Ianoyarioy, sthn Kentrikh Epitroph qa syzhthqei h pragmatikothta, opws qa exei diamorfwqei mexris ekeinh thn hmera: me tis "elpides" poy lete, me tis "dyskolies" poy lete, me ta "ean" poy qetete, ola ayta qa syzhthqoyn, poia dhladh qa einai h pragmatikothta. Qa syzhthqoyn, loipon, ola ayta sth synedriash ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs ths 20hs Ianoyarioy. Kai ekei qa lhfqoyn apofaseis kai qa doqoyn apanthseis.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Miso lepto, qa epimeinw.

XYTHRHS: Na epimeinete!

KANELLOPOYLOS: H apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy den milaei - ap' o,ti oloi gnwrizoyme - gia syzhthsh stis 20 toy mhnos. Anaferei tis lejeis "dromologhsh oristikhs lyshs". Shmera eseis mas lete gia syzhthsh. Egw mporw na ypoqesw ayth th stigmh - kai nomizw oti den eimai o monos - oti yparxei mia diastash apocewn metajy ths Kybernhshs poy ekfrazete eseis kai toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy. Kanw laqos;

XYTHRHS: Na mhn ypoqesete tipota.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Tote, dwste mas thn apanthsh: isxyei se kaqe periptwsh...

XYTHRHS: H apanthsh einai oti isxyei h apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Epomenws...

XYTHRHS: Aplws symplhrwsa, epeidh moy eipate oti yparxoyn ypoqeseis, oti mporei mexri tote o k. Papandreoy na mhn mporei h ekeino h to allo, ola ayta qa syzhthqoyn sthn Kentrikh Epitroph, stis 20 Ianoyarioy.

MOYRTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, apokleietai h metaqesh ths hmeromhnias sygklhshs ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs;

XYTHRHS: Ayto ejartatai apo thn idia thn Kentrikh Epitroph.

MOYRTHS: Prepei na synelqei...

XYTHRHS: Apo to Ektelestiko Grafeio. Den ejartatai apo mena.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ean h ygeia toy k. Papandreoy mporei na proxwrhsei kala kai mporei na ekfrasqei kai mporei na ekfrasei apoch, ayto qa allajei tis hmeromhnies;

XYTHRHS: O k. Papandreoy epishs einai to koryfaio organo toy Kinhmatos: o Proedros. Asfalws kai exei logo.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ayth th stigmh o k. Papandreoy einai koryfaio organo toy Kinhmatos, alla mporei na parei apofash; An yphrxe ayto to qema, giati na syzhtoyntai twra ola ayta, an mporei dhladh na syzhthsei kai na parei apofash; Mporei na parei mia tetoia apofash;

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa oti .... (Shm. Elleipes keimeno logw lanqasmenhs apoqhkeyshs ato prwtotypo).