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BRIEFING 16-02-96

Greek Government Press Release Directory

From: Hellenic Ministry of Press <pegasus@compulink.gr>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 16/2/96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA

Kalhmera sas. Sas einai gnwsto oti o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos exei prosklhqei apo ton k. Klinton na episkefqei thn Amerikh stis 9 Aprilioy.
* Sas einai gnwsto oti to Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio exei ekdosei chfisma sxetikws me thn teleytaia ellhno-toyrkikh krish. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh ekfrazei thn ikanopoihsh ths gia to chfisma ayto. Qewroyme oti tetoia keimena prepei na apoteloyn th bash epanw sthn opoia qa anaptyssontai oi sxeseis filias kai synergasias metajy twn xwrwn. Pisteyoyme pws h Eyrwph stelnei ena safes mhnyma pros thn Toyrkia oti o dromos ths Toyrkias pros thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh einai o dromos toy sebasmoy toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy kai ths thrhshs twn dieqnwn symfwniwn. H Ellada, xwra poy sebetai to Dieqnes Dikaio kai tima tis dieqneis symfwnies, opws pantote, twra kai sto mellon, qa synergasqei me oloys toys dieqneis paragontes, kybernhseis kai organismoys, wste sthn prajh, me sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies kai energeies, tetoioy eidoys keimena na apodeixqei oti symballoyn akribws sthn anaptyjh sxesewn filias kai synergasias metajy twn xwrwn sthn Eyrwph, alla kai se olo ton kosmo. Eimai etoimos gia tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Proedros toy PASOK k. Andreas Papandreoy den gnwrizei oti Prwqypoyrgos einai o k. Shmiths kai apeyqynetai ston k. Tsoxatzopoylo;

REPPAS: Den katalaba thn erwthsh sas. Ennoeite oti prepei na epibaloyme astynomeysh stis epikoinwnies poy exei o k. Papandreoy;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ma phre ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo gia ta eqnika qemata, enw o Prwqypoyrgos asxoleitai me ayta. Oyte ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn phre... Apeyqynqhke ston k. Tsoxatzopoylo. Giati;

REPPAS: Nomizw oti ayto poy kanete einai paraxarajh ths alhqeias, qa moy epitrecete na pw kai qa to aitiologhsw. O k. Papandreoy exei epikoinwnia me stelexh toy PASOK kai me kybernhtika stelexh. O k. Papandreoy exei dikaiwma, opws o kaqeis ej hmwn na epikoinwnei me opoiondhpote qewrei oti prepei o idios na epikoinwnhsei. An swsta exoyn metaferqei aytes oi apoceis toy, aplws sxoliazw epeidh exei ginei qema, o k. Papandreoy protrepei oloys mas, mias kai kata ta osa eipe o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, ejefrase thn ektimhsh oti erxontai "foyrtoynes" sta ejwterika qemata, epanalambanw kai pali oti o k. Papandreoy ekane mia protroph pros oloys mas na rijoyme ta "mpofor" sto eswteriko ths xwras, wste na yparjei galhnh, gia na mporesoyme etsi na antimetwpisoyme tis "foyrtoynes" poy erxontai sta ejwterika qemata. Epanalambanw kai pali, kata thn ekdoxh h opoia paroysiasthke sth dhmosiothta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati omws mesw toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy;

REPPAS: Ma, o k. Papandreoy den ejoysiodothse ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo na apeyqynei kapoio mhnyma, ws mhnyma toy Andrea Papandreoy pros ton ellhniko lao. Ayto einai safes. O k. Papandreoy epikoinwnei me seira stelexwn. Exei synergasia me paragontes toy kommatos mas kai ths Kybernhshs kai sto plaisio ayto, o Andreas Papandreoy diatypwnei tis apoceis toy.

KIAOS: An epitrepete, htan mia kalh "tripla" sas ayth... REPPAS(Xaritologwntas): Me tosa kila poy exw, nomizete oti mporw na kanw kai "triples" sthn hlikia moy; Eyxaristw para poly.

MAYROS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, molis deka xronia exete poy fygate...

REPPAS: Molis deka xronia kyrie Mayro. Tipota den einai deka xronia.

KARAKWSTAS: Prin apo th synomilia toy Proedroy toy PASOK me ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo, prohghqhke synomilia toy Proedroy toy PASOK me ton Prwqypoyrgo;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos me ton Proedro toy PASOK exoyn epikoinwnia kai antallassoyn apoceis. Gnwrizete para poly kala oti s' ayto to qema kai pali exoyme apanthsei oti oi qeseis einai taytoshmes gia thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.

MOYRTZHS: Eipate "an exoyn apodoqei swsta" oi apoceis toy k. Papandreoy. Yparxei to endexomeno na mhn exoyn apodoqei swsta kai sas enoxlhsan ws Kybernhsh ayta poy eipe megalofwnws o k. Tsoxatzopoylos;

REPPAS: Thn Kybernhsh pote den thn enoxlei otidhpote leei o Andreas Papandreoy. Aplws mporw na pw - epeidh, xwris na eimai bebaios, akoysa oti yparxei newterh dhlwsh toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy, den jerw an swsta exei apodoqei ayth h dhlwsh, exw ayth thn epifylajh - aplws lew oti kata th nea ayth dhlwsh, o k. Tsoxatzopoylos leei pws o Andreas Papandreoy den ekfrazei kammia anhsyxia gia ta qemata ejwterikhs politikhs. Se kapoio radiofwno shmera anaferqhke, symfwna me to deltio poy moy hrqe. Aplws to shmeiwnw.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ma otan leei oti yparxoyn "foyrtoynes", ti shmainei;

REPPAS: Ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo qa rwthsete gia tis dhlwseis poy kanei. Egw, kanontas mia yperbash - kai ennow akribws ayth th lejh - sxoliasa ena dialogo h mia apoch ypo thn epifylajh ths swsths apodoshs ayths ths apochs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati exete ayth thn epifylajh synexeia gia ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo, an ta metaferei swsta;

REPPAS: Giati prwtogenws den akoysa ton Andrea Papandreoy na leei kati sygkekrimeno. Logiko den einai;

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa hqela na sxoliasete th frash, na tekmhriwsete th frash toy k. Papandreoy, efoson egine, oti anamenontai "foyrtoynes". Dioti ayth h frash prokalei anhsyxies.

REPPAS: Nomizw oti prepei na apanthsw dia ths anaptyjhs senariwn kai den protiqemai na to kanw.

SOYRMELIDHS: Pws xarakthrizetai h episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Oyasigktwn; Episkech ergasias; Epishmh; Anepishmh;

REPPAS: Einai episkech ergasias sta plaisia twn sxesewn filias poy exoyn oi dyo xwres. H episkech ayth qa ginei se ena klima egkardio. Kai nomizw oti ta apotelesmata ths qa einai oysiastika kai shmantika gia thn prowqhsh twn eqnikwn mas qematwn.

SOYRMELIDHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, pws apanta h Kybernhsh sthn protash toy Amerikanoy Proedroy gia synergasia sta qemata tromokratias;

REPPAS: Oi Yphresies Asfaleias twn dyo xwrwn exoyn synexh synergasia gia thn antimetwpish tetoiwn problhmatwn. Bebaiws, oi Arxes ths Asfaleias ths xwras mas exoyn tetoia synergasia me tis Arxes twn HPA alla kai allwn xwrwn.

KARAKWSTAS: Epeidh mas eipate oti h epikeimenh synanthsh toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Klinton qa diejaxqei se egkardio klima, ayto ofeiletai sto oti epikeintai ekloges stis HPA;

REPPAS: An ayth h xronikh symptwsh einai prosforh, wste emeis ekmetalleyomenoi aytes tis synqhkes exoyme th dynatothta na apokomisoyme wfelh, giati akribws na mhn to doyme yp'ayto to prisma ayto to tajidi; Emeis qeloyme kales sxeseis m'ayth th xwra kai qa kanoyme ta panta, wste oi sxeseis aytes, sth bash ths isotimias kai ths amoibaias wfeleias pantote, bebaiws - ayto einai mia qesh arxhs - na einai sxeseis poy qa apodidoyn sygkekrimena apotelesmata gia to kalo ths dikhs mas xwras.

KIAOS: Na epanelqw sthn prohgoymenh apanthsh sas gia th synergasia metajy twn Yphresiwn Asfaleias: Yparxei kapoio idiaitero stoixeio pio stenhs synergasias, sthn prokeimenh periptwsh me tis Yphresies Asfaleias tis Amerikanikes;

REPPAS: Fantazomai oti h synergasia einai synexhs kai adialeipth. Qa exei tis diakymanseis analogws ths rohs twn plhroforiwn kai ths ajiopoihshs stoixeiwn, ta opoia yparxoyn. Kai bebaiws, epeidh akribws exoyn mia diakymansh, h synergasia ayth qa einai pantote stenh, alla me thn parakoloyqhsh ths diakymanshs twn stoixeiwn ths epikairothtas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, oi eyrwboyleytes, xqes, ekanan kala th doyleia toys kai ekdoqhke ayto to chfisma. H Kybernhsh eixe pei oti qa "mplokarei" ta posa poy qa dinontan sthn Toyrkia. Exei mexri shmera "mplokarei" kapoio poson;

REPPAS: To qema ayto den exei teqei akomh sta koinotika organa. Exoyme apanthsei epi toy sygkekrimenoy qematos. Protash ths Kybernhshs einai akribws na askhsei parembash sth diadikasia ektamieyshs kondyliwn yper ths Toyrkias. Kai sthn krisimh ekeinh stigmh poy qa teqei to qema, na eiste sigoyroi, h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh qa kanei to kalytero dynato.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa kalesei ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo prokeimenoy na ekxwrhsei armodiothtes stoys Yfypoyrgoys;

REPPAS: O k. Prwqypoyrgos - epanalambanw kai pali - synergazetai stena me toys Ypoyrgoys toy. Den apotelei eidhsh h synergasia ayth toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy me toys Ypoyrgoys toy. Kai bebaiws, oi apofaseis poy lambanontai einai pros to symferon ths Kybernhshs, alla kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai twn Ypoyrgwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla yparxei problhma, kyrie Ypoyrge.

REPPAS: Den yparxei kanena problhma.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai shmera o Yfypoyrgos, o k. Papadhmas, bgainontas, ekane kapoia dhlwsh oti den toy ekxwrei o k. Tsoxatzopoylos armodiothtes kai oti qa ton kalesei o Prwqypoyrgos. Isxyei ayto;

REPPAS: Sto PASOK kai sthn Kybernhsh oydena problhma prokyptei, otan ta stelexh ekfrazoyn tis apoceis toys. Problhma yparxei otan den katalhgoyme se mia koinh grammh. Otan den lambanetai mia apofash. Kai na eiste sigoyroi, oti gia ola ta qemata kai gia ayta poy qa prokycoyn qa yparjoyn apofaseis. Kai oi apofaseis aytes qa einai koines kai shmantikes.

SOYRMELIDHS: Gia th synanthsh toy k. Pagkaloy me ton k. Shmith, exete na mas peite kati;

REPPAS: Aplws, sta plaisia ths proetoimasias ths episkechs toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy stis eyrwpaikes prwteyoyses thn erxomenh ebdomada, egine synergasia shmera me ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn kai me alloys yphresiakoys paragontes, oi opoioi exoyn armodiothta epi aytwn twn qematwn.

MAYROS: Oi Arxhgoi toy Genikoy Epiteleioy Stratoy Jhras kai Naytikoy apostrateyqhkan me kybernhtikh apofash h apostrateyontai epeidh prohxqh kapoios newteros toys;

REPPAS: Jerete oti yparxoyn kapoioi kanones, basei twn opoiwn efarmozontai aytes oi diadikasies. Exw loipon th gnwmh oti h apofash toy KYSEA, h opoia anedeije sth qesh toy Arxhgoy GEEQA ton k. Tzoganh, eixe kapoies parepomenes synepeies, metajy twn opoiwn kai aytes poy anaferete eseis.

MAYROS: Egw sas rwthsa...

REPPAS: Nai, eipa, metajy twn opoiwn kai aytes poy anaferate kai eseis.

MAYROS: Rwthsa an htan kai kybernhtikh apofash...

REPPAS: Eipa oti h anadeijh toy k. Tzoganh eixe metajy twn allwn ws parepomenh synepeia kai ayth. Eyxaristw poly

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