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BRIEFING 27-02-95

Greek Government Press Release Directory

From: Hellenic Ministry of Press <pegasus@compulink.gr>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 27.2.96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA META TH SYNEDRIASH THS KYBERNHTIKHS EPITROPHS (Wra: 15.45)

Opws gnwrizete, synedriase shmera h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, h opoia asxolhqhke me ta Megala Erga. Sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, eishghsh epi toy qematos ekanan o k. Laliwths kai o k. Papantwnioy. Oi eishghseis hsan leptomereiakes kai akoloyqhse oysiastikh syzhthsh gia thn katastash sthn opoia briskontai shmera ta Megala Erga sth xwra mas. Shmera, prepei na pw, oti ekteloyntai sth xwra mas erga synolikoy proypologismoy poy jeperna ta 2 trisekatommyria draxmes. Entos de twn prwtwn mhnwn toy 1996, jekinoyn erga twn opoiwn o synolikos proypologismos einai peripoy 1 trisekatommyrio draxmes akomh. Kata th syzhthsh diapistwqhke oti to programma ekteleshs twn ergwn poy xrhmatodotoyntai kai apo to B' Koinotiko Plaisio Sthrijhs, ejelissetai symfwna me toys stoxoys mas. Diapistwqhke, epishs, oti yparxoyn eidikoteroi tomeis stoys opoioys prepei na enteinoyme thn prospaqeia mas gia na petyxoyme kalytero syntonismo kai apotelesmatikoterh diaxeirish twn porwn poy einai diaqesimoi. Gia thn kalyterh prowqhsh, loipon, toy programmatos ekteleshs aytwn twn ergwn apofasisqhke af'enos h dhmioyrgia mias diypoyrgikhs omadas h opoia qa asxolhqei, qa melethsei kai qa proteinei tropoys gia thn ejeyresh twn prosqetwn porwn poy xreiazontai (pera apo toys hdh diaqesimoys, twn opoiwn - epanalambanw - h aporrofhsh einai ikanopoihti- kh). Opws epishs apofasisqhke h Epitroph Megalwn Ergwn na asxolhqei kai me problhmata ta opoia antimetwpizoyn alla erga poy den anhkoyn sta legomena Megala Erga kai ta opoia problhmata exoyn na kanoyn me thn pleyra ekeinh poy afora thn kataskeyh toys. Egine syzhthsh sthn opoia elaban meros oi symmetexontes Ypoyrgoi. Se syntomo xroniko diasthma qa yparjei mia ejetash kai pali apo thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph toy poso oi apofaseis poy shmera elhfqhsan, exoyn ylopoihqei.
** Sas diabazw twra mia anakoinwsh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs, h opoia afora tis tromokratikes energeies poy elaban xwra sto Israhl kai h opoia anakoinwsh exei ws ejhs: "H Kybernhsh ths Ellados katadikazei me ton pio apolyto tropo tis tromokratikes energeies poy stoixisan th zwh kai thn akeraiothta dekadwn Israhlinwn politwn kai ekfrazei ta eilikrinh syllyphthria pros tis oikogeneies twn qymatwn. Elpizoyme oti toso oi Israhlinoi oso kai oi Palaistinioi qa ejagagoyn ta orqa symperasmata kai den qa epitrecoyn th synexish toy fayloy kykloy ths bias poy genna kai anatrefei h steira antiparaqesh. H prowqhsh kai oloklhrwsh ths eirhneytikhs diadikasias sth Mesh Anatolh mporei kai prepei na apotelesei th dynamikh antidrash ths syntriptikhs pleiochfias twn lawn ths perioxhs se tetoies apotropaies prajeis tyfloy fanatismoy".
*** Qa hqela na kanw kapoia sxolia en sxesei me to prosfato tajidi toy Ellhna Prwqypoyr- goy stis eyrwpaikes prwteyoyses, opws epishs qa sxoliasw tis qeseis poy diatypwse se anakoinwsh ths h Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh:
-O k. Prwqypoyrgos, me th dhlwsh poy ekane amesws meta thn epistrofh toy, edwse to metro ths epityxias apo thn opoia stefqhke to tajidi toy ayto. Einai yperbolh, kapoioi na qewroyn oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh qriambologhse gia ta apotelesmata aytoy toy tajidioy. Alla einai taytoxronws adiko na mhn pistwnetai h Kybernhsh me thn epityxia, h opoia akribws yparxei, einai katagegrammenh kai afora kyriws kai idiaiterws th qesh poy diatypwsan oi synomilhtes toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy. Qesh h opoia topoqetei ta problhmata ta opoia dhmioyrgei h Toyrkia sth bash sthn opoia prepei na topoqethqoyn. Kai h bash ayth einai h nomikh bash. To plaisio entos toy opoioy prepei ta problhmata ayta na anazhthsoyn th lysh toys, einai to nomiko plaisio. H anafora, loipon, apo oles tis pleyres, sthn anagkh sebasmoy toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy kai h prosfygh sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs gia thn anazhthsh lyshs sto problhma poy qewrei kapoios oti yparxei, einai mia qesh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs, thn opoia symmeristhkan oi synomilhtes toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy. Einai mia qesh h opoia anaferetai, gia prwth fora, en sxesei me tis diafores poy h Toyrkia leei oti yparxoyn me thn Ellada. Kai ayto mas ikanopoiei. To metro ths alhqeias perikleietai s'aytes tis fraseis poy eipe o k. Prwqypoyrgos (sth dhlwsh toy ayth poy ekane - epanalambanw - eyqys meta thn epistrofh toy), opoy sthn arxh men ths dhlwshs xarakthrise to apotelesma toy tajidioy ws qetiko, sto telos de ths dhlwshs toy diapistwse oti h epityxia ayth den shmainei oti lyqhkan ta problhmata, oti eimaste akomh sthn arxh kai xreiazetai synexeia kai synepeia sth doyleia mas, wste h mikrh ayth strofh na parei oysiastikes diastaseis. Kai emeis exoyme th qelhsh kai th diaqesh na doylecoyme pros aythn thn kateyqynsh.
-Anti gi'ayto, exoyme eite sxolia gia prowres qriambologies ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs, kai eyqys apedeija oti tetoies qriambologies den yphrjan. Eite sxolia gia "odynhrh htta" ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs, alla kai tetoia "htta" - opws diapistwnetai - epishs den yphrje. Giati aloimono an emeis oi idioi baptizoyme "htta" th symptwsh h symfwnia se megalo baqmo apocewn allwn xwrwn pros tis dikes mas apoceis. Pragma poy pantote epidiwkame kai shmera se arketa ikanopoihtiko baqmo exoyme petyxei.
-Qa hqela,epishs, na sxoliasw to shmeio idiaiterws ekeino ths anakoinwshs ths Neas Dhmokratias to opoio epanalambanei mia qesh poy kai se xqesinh ths anakoinwsh h Nea Dhmokratia diatypwse, oti "h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh kai idiaitera o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos anegnwrise ws epilogh thn prooptikh ths Eyrwphs twn dyo h perissoterwn taxythtwn". Oyden ceydesteron toytoy. Exw akribws to keimeno twn dhlwsewn toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy, poy anaferei ws qesh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs ta entelws antiqeta ap'ayta poy isxyrizetai h Nea Dhmokratia. To keimeno einai sth diaqesh sas: prokeitai gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Prwqypoyr- goy, meta th synanthsh toy me ton k. Ntean kai ton k. Santer. Kai o k. Prwqypoyrgos sthn perikoph ayth poy anaferqhke sthn ONE, katalhgei me tis fraseis oti "prepei na prowqhqei h sygklish gia na mhn yparjoyn diaforetikes taxythtes sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. S'ayto yphrje symfwnia, oti ekeino to opoio en pash periptwsei prepei na apofeyxqei, einai oi diaforetikes taxythtes". Ayto, pisteyw, apodeiknyei me ton kalytero tropo oti h kritikh ths Neas Dhmokratias symmaxei me to ceydos, prokeimenoy na apokomisei mikrokommatika ofelh. Einai - qa elega - mia trexoysa antipoliteysh gia efhmerh politikh katanalwsh, h opoia blaptei thn prospaqeia ths Kybernhshs sthn yperaspish twn eqnikwn symferontwn. Kai gi'ayto ekfrazoyme thn entonotath diafwnia mas. Pisteyoyme oti sthn alhqeia toy ergoy ths Kybernhshs, h Nea Dhmokratia antiparaqetei to cemma twn logwn ths. Alla, as mhn ths diafeygei oti to cemma exei "konta podia" kai opoios to xrhsimopoiei den prokeitai na chlwsei ta pososta dhmofilias toy. Ayta apo pleyras moy. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Mas eipate oti h qesh ths Kybernhshs einai to nomiko plaisio, to plaisio twn diaforwn me thn Toyrkia einai nomiko kai oti qa prepei na epikrathsei to Dieqnes Dikaio kai na pame sth Xagh, qesh poy symmeristhkan kai oi synomilhtes toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Omws, xqes, sto Symboylio YPEJ ths E.E., oi ekproswpoi twn xwrwn ths E.E. den edwsan kapoia tetoia diastash sthn koinh dhlwsh h opoia phge na ekdoqei kai h opoia den anaferei, en pash periptwsei, oyte th lejh "Xagh". Ena sxolio ep'aytoy, parakalw.

REPPAS: Parakalw, den prepei na omileite gia "symmaxoys" h "etairoys" genikws, otan gnwrizete oti mia mono xwra diaforopoihqhke apo th qesh thn opoia diatypwse ws anakoinwsh (meta th syzhthsh poy egine sto geyma) h Ekproswpos ths Italikhs Proedrias. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh qa hqele to keimeno ayto na apotelei apofash toy Symboylioy Ypoyrgwn. Bebaiws, qewroyme pws to oti symperilambanetai s'ayto to keimeno kai pali h anafora sto Dikaio kai h anagkh prosfyghs me sebasmo s'ayto to Dikaio sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio gia thn epilysh opoiwn diaforwn, einai qesh poy exei diatypwsei h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh. Kai gia prwth fora, meta apo polla xronia as moy epitrapei na pw, kai oi xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs diatypwnoyn mia analogh, mia paromoia qesh. Ayto mas ikanopoiei. Qewroyme oti ta eji shmeia, oi eji protaseis ayths ths anakoinwshs den einai - kaqe allo qa elega - mia opisqoxwrhsh se sxesh me o,ti eixe dexqei kai h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh mexri ekeinh th stigmh. Mhn jexnate, prwton, oti h Ellada h opoia eqewreito apo polloys ws odhgoymenh se apomonwsh enanti twn allwn 14 etairwn ths logw ths stashs ths sto qema toy xrhmatodotikoy kanonismoy, breqhke me alles 13 xwres se mia koinh qesh, se ena koino politiko plaisio. Kai ayto exei thn politikh toy shmasia poy oydeis mporei na thn ypobaqmisei. Kai af'eteroy, mh lhsmonoyme oti problhmata ta opoia yparxoyn epi poly kairo den einai dynaton na lyqoyn me prospaqeies oi opoies bebaiws briskontai se ejelijh. Kai emeis qa kanoyme ta panta kai elpizoyme kai pisteyoyme oti qa apodwsoyn karpoys.

MIXAHL: Ayth h ermhneia poy dwsate ths par'oligon dhlwsews, omws, kaka ta cemmata kyrie Ekproswpe, to apotelesma metraei. Dhlwsh koinh twn "15" den yparxei. Dhlwsh ths Italikhs Proedrias den yparxei. Einai san na mazeythkan 15 Ypoyrgoi, koybentiasan, ws edw. Den einai - an qelete - me thn kathgorhmatikothta poy mas diatypwnete... ayta ta eji shmeia... Qa hqela loipon na rwthsw: Einai ametaklhth h ellhnikh qesh oson afora to "mplokarisma" toy xrhmatodotikoy prwtokolloy; Einai ametaklhth; Giati peri aytoy prokeitai, sthn oysia. 'H to syzhtame se sxesh me mia dhlwsh poy qa prokycei sto mellon;

REPPAS: Exei dhlwsei h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh oti den einai eykolo na synergasqei sthn proodo ths telwneiakhs syndeshs Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs - Toyrkias, ef'oson h idia h Toyrkia den antapokrinetai stis desmeyseis kai tis ypoxrewseis poy anelabe apo ton Martio, hdh, toy 1995. Sas lew oti to Symboylio ayto eprokeito, kat'arxhn, otan eixe prosdiorisqei h hmeromhnia sygklhshs toy, na asxolhqei akribws me ton xrhmatodotiko kanonismo pros thn Toyrkia. Telikws, den asxolhqhke me to qema ayto. Kai h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh breqhke na qetei enwpion toy Symboylioy ena diko ths megisto eqniko qema kai na apospa apo th megisth pleiochfia - dioti panw apo ayth thn pleiochfia h opoia diamorfwqhke, yparxei mono h omofwnia - twn allwn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs mia qesh, h opoia pisteyoyme oti einai symfwnh, einai poly konta stis qeseis ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs. Kai antimetwpizei katw apo ena prisma poy exei endiaferon gia mas kai leitoyrgei ws ena kefalaio - gia alloys megalytero, gia alloys mikrotero, alla en pash periptwsei ajiopoihsimo - to opoio ayto kefalaio pisteyoyme oti apotelei mia proodo sthn politikh ths Kybernhshs gia ta eqnika mas qemata.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: H Ellada sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh arkeitai sto na ikanopoieitai apo to aqroisma twn merwn ths E.E. h apo ton idio ton Organismo stis apofaseis toy; To erwthma moy einai to ejhs: Meta th xqesinh mh apofash, prwton, an h Ellada einai ikanopoihmenh. Deyteron, an meta apo aythn thn mh apofash, ejakoloyqei na isxyei h dhlwsh toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy, symfwna me thn opoia h aisqhsh toy htan oti h Ellada den adikeitai apo thn E.E.

REPPAS: H symmetoxh ths Ellados sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh einai dedomenh. Den yparxei periqwrio gia diaforetikh protash. Deyteron, h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh qa einai tote ikanopoihme- nh, otan me th bohqeia toys, kata to baqmo poy mporoyn na syneisferoyn kai oi xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, qa broyn oristikh kai telesidikh lysh ta eqnika problhmata, ta eqnika qemata, ta opoia shmera paramenoyn anoikta logw ths epiqetikothtas ths toyrkikhs ejwterikhs politikhs. Alla, bebaiws, h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh ekfrazei - einai swsto na to kanei - thn ikanopoihsh ths, kaqe fora poy epitygxanei na yparxei mia proodos logw ths metakinhshs pio konta stis dikes mas qeseis twn qesewn twn allwn xwrwn. Mia proodos - epanalambanw - sth diatypwsh qesewn poy aforoyn ta eqnika mas qemata. Kai diapistwnoyme oti akribws ayth h epanalambanomenh anafora sto Dieqnes Dikaio kai sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio, einai mia proodos poy fernei alles xwres pio konta stis dikes mas qeseis.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Ws pros th deyterh erwthsh moy, kyrie Ypoyrge: Ejakoloyqei na isxyei h dhlwsh toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy, symfwna me thn opoia h aisqhsh toy, h entypwsh poy apekomise apo tis synomilies poy eixe, oti h Ellada den adikeitai apo toys etairoys ths;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme - an kai apanthsa s'ayto me thn prohgoymenh apanthsh moy - oti h Ellada gnwrizei poly kala oti kaqe xwra askei thn ejwterikh ths politikh me bash ta eqnika ths symferonta. Alla kai h Ellada qa askhsei thn ejwterikh ths politikh me bash ta eqnika ths symferonta. H Ellada, polles fores, adikeitai apo polloys. Syxnotata adikeitai apo toys Ellhnes, qa moy epitrecete na pw me ayth thn eykairia. Ayto poy exoyme na kanoyme, einai na doylecoyme me synepeia kai synexeia, pio systhmatika kai pio apotelesmatika, wste na petyxoyme toys stoxoys mas. Kai tote qa dikaiwqei kai h Ellada. Alla kai emeis qa dikaiwqoyme enanti ths Istorias, giati ayth thn ypoxrewsh exoyme ws Ellhnes, prwtistws.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, milhsate gia "proodo". Hqela na rwthsw an h xqesinh apofash toy Symboylioy einai proodos kai epishs an einai synexeia ths epityxias, gia thn opoia epishs milhsate, toy tajidioy toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy.

REPPAS: Epanalambanw kai pali oti an apoteloyse apofash toy Symboylioy Ypoyrgwn, bebaiws qa htan kati poy qa to qelame, qa mas ikanopoioyse akomh perissotero. Apo ekei kai pera omws, me bash problhmata h idiaiterothtes poy yparxoyn kai ypo thn peristash ypo thn opoia egine ayth h syzhthsh (poy - epanalambanw - htan syzhthsh programmatismenh gia ton xrhmatodotiko kanonismo), pisteyoyme oti h ejelijh ths syzhthshs ayths apotelei ena qetiko bhma. Einai mia proodos se sxesh me ayta poy eixe ejasfalisei h Ellada apo toys etairoys ta prohgoymena xronia. Kai h proodos ayth - epanalambanw kai pali - synistatai sthn kat'epanalhch diatypwsh qesewn twn allwn xwrwn gia to sebasmo toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy, thn anagnwrish ths ajias poy exei to Dieqnes Dikasthrio gia na antimetwpizontai tetoies diafores kai thn anadeijh toy nomikoy xarakthra twn problhmatwn. Qeseis oi opoies - epanalambanw - einai pagies qeseis ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs.

KANELLOPOYLOS: H erwthsh moy einai sygkekrimenh: Einai proodos to xqesino apotelesma kai synexeia twn synomiliwn toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy...

REPPAS: Kyrie Kanellopoyle, apanthsa. Eseis, ws Arkas, eisqe idiaiteras antilhcews, wste na antilambanesqe pws h apanthsh moy einai plhrhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h Ellada qa qesei pali to qema toy xrhmatodotikoy prwtokolloy;

REPPAS: H Ellada exei ekfrasei th qesh ths, poy einai qesh arnhshs na symmetasxei sthn proodo ths telwneiakhs syndeshs Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs - Toyrkias, oson afora ton xrhmatodotiko kanonismo. Kai h arnhsh ayth phgazei akribws apo thn mh antapokrish ths idias ths Toyrkias, pragma poy epishmainoyme, pros tis desmeyseis kai ypoxrewseis tis opoies h idia h Toyrkia exei analabei enanti ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sto Symboylio Ypoyrgwn qa to qesei;

REPPAS: Otan erqei ekeinh h wra kai synedriasei to Symboylio, na eisqe sigoyros oti qa kanoyme o,tidhpote epitassei to eqniko symferon. Kata ton idio tropo apantoysame 20 meres - ena mhna prin kai eidate oti thn krisimh wra h Ellada phre th swsth qesh. Mh biazesqe! Einai qemata ta opoia antimetwpizoyme me synesh, alla kai me thn analogh apofasistikothta. Kai na eisqe sigoyroi oti h Ellada qa kanei to kalytero dynato.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw giati na biazomai;

REPPAS: Mh biazesqe na parete apanthsh twra! Oi qeseis mas einai toso poly safeis, wste den xreiazetai na syzhthqoyn parapanw.

KACAMPELHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h apodoxh ek meroys ths toyrkikhs pleyras ths diadikasias ths Xaghs, apotelei proypoqesh gia na synainesei h Ellada sthn egkrish toy xrhmatodotikoy prwtokolloy;

REPPAS: Emeis qewroyme oti to problhma poy proekyce teleytaiws kai ekdhlwqhke ws ellhnotoyrkikh krish, mporei na antimetwpisqei me thn prosfygh ths Toyrkias sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs. Alla peran toytoy - epanalambanw kai pali - h idia h Toyrkia gia na apaitei na proxwrhsei aproskopta h symfwnia telwneiakhs enwshs E.E. - Toyrkias, qa prepei na antapokriqei stis ypoxrewseis poy anelabe. Pragma poy afora thn anaptyjh sxesewn kalhs geitonias, to sebasmo twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn, thn omalh leitoyrgia twn koinoboyleytikwn qesmwn, to sebasmo sto Dieqnes Dikaio. Einai pragmata ta opoia h Toyrkia exei apodexqei kai prepei sthn prajh na ta thrhsei.

FILHS: Ep'aytoy, qa hqela na rwthsw to ejhs: Erwthqeis o k. Prwqypoyrgos sto Parisi poies qewrei h Ellada ws proypoqeseis gia na synainesei sthn ejelijh ths telwneiakhs enwshs Toyrkias - Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, aphnthse: Prwton, na prosfygei h Toyrkia sth Xagh. Deyteron, na paraithqei h Toyrkia apo tis apaithseis ths sto Aigaio. Aytoi oi dyo oroi isxyoyn shmera;

REPPAS: Nomizw, apanthsa molis prin s'ayto akribws poy eipate eseis.

FILHS: Oxi.

REPPAS: Eipa: en sxesei me thn ellhnotoyrkikh diafora gia to qema ths Imias, ths opoias exoyme prosfath thn empeiria, qewroyme oti h lysh mporei na breqei me thn prosfygh ths Toyrkias sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs. Deyteron, oti h idia h Toyrkia prepei na antapokriqei stis ypoxrewseis ths: Sxeseis kalhs geitonias, opws kai o sebasmos sto Dieqnes Dikaio, shmainoyn oti h Toyrkia den qetei qemata poy aforoyn se allages synorwn metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Ayta einai aytonohta. Pisteyw, loipon, oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh prokeimenoy na prostateysei ta eqnika mas symferonta, ayta ta mesa h ergaleia poy exei sth diaqesh ths, qa ta xrhsimopoihsei kata ton kalytero kata thn krish ths tropo, wste na yparxoyn apotelesmata. Kai h Toyrkia prepei ayto na to gnwrizei: Den qa paraithqoyme apo th dynatothta na parembainoyme, xrhsimopoiwntas ayta ta mesa poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas.

KACAMPELHS: Ep'aytoy k. Ekproswpe: Na rwthsw, meta ap'ola ayta poy mas lete, ean einai alhqes oti xqes o k. Pagkalos dhlwse stoys omologoys toy sta plaisia toy Symboylioy oti h Ellada qa synainoyse sthn egkrish toy xrhmatodotikoy prwtokolloy, ef'oson yphrxe kai apo tis 15 xwres koinh stash kai den mplokarizotan h apofash apo th Bretania. Einai alhqes oti eipe ayto o k. Pagkalos;

REPPAS: O k. Pagkalos ekane mia dhlwsh ektos Symboylioy. Mia dhlwsh, h opoia einai gnwsth. Kai nomizw einai pio orqo, na meinoyme s'ayth th dhlwsh. Eipe, dhladh, oti h Ellada den desmeyetai apo thn epoikodomhtikh stash poy krathse kata th diarkeia twn syzhthsewn. H epoikodomhtikh ayth stash eixe na kanei akribws me to oti emeis den exoyme ws kyrio stoxo na empodisoyme thn ejelijh ths telwneiakhs syndeshs ths E.E. me thn Toyrkia. Den einai aytos o eqnikos mas stoxos. Eqnikos mas stoxos einai na perifroyrhsoyme ta eqnika mas symferonta kai na diasfalisoyme thn eqnikh mas kyriarxia. Kai prokeimenoy na to petyxoyme, qa xrhsimopoihsoyme ta mesa ta opoia exoyme sth diaqesh mas.

KAMPOYRAKHS: Sto idio qema: Mporeite na mas ermhneysete th dhlwsh toy k. Pagkaloy oti "den einai mono h Bretania poy exei beto"; Toys apeiloyme dhladh na ypobaloyme beto se kapoio allo qema;

REPPAS: Emeis oyte apeiloyme, oyte dexomaste apeiles. Oyte ekbiazoyme, oyte dexomeqa ekbiasmoys. Epanalambanw kai pali oti h politikh mas qa einai symfwnh me ta eqnika symferonta. Einai mia politikh poy sta prwta ths bhmata apodidei karpoys. Qa synexisoyme me klimakwmenh thn prospaqeia mas, an qelete, pio entonh wste ta apotelesmata ayta na einai poly kalytera sto mellon.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Akoma kai sthn periptwsh poy oi "15" katadikasoyn thn Toyrkia kai eggyhqoyn, qa elega egw akoma kai ta synora mas, h Ellada den protiqetai na synergasqei para mono sthn periptwsh poy h idia h Toyrkia prosfygei sth Xagh; Kai anejarthta apo to ti qa kanoyn oi "15";

REPPAS: Einai ypoqetikh h erwthsh sas kai proypoqetei -gia na isxyoyn ayta poy eipate- oti exoyn mesolabhsei mia seira apo gegonota, oti exoyn lhfqei mia seira prwtoboylies. Kai en pash periptwsei exoyme mprosta mas th Diakybernhtikh, opoy qa teqei apo thn Ellada to qema ths KEPPA. Exoyme mprosta mas diaboyleyseis poy qa ginoyn sto plaisio twn organwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, opoy qa qesoyme emeis analoga qemata. Kai akribws oi apanthseis poy qa lambanontai stoys logoys, alla kai sthn prajh qa einai aytes poy sobarws qa lhfqoyn ypoch apo mas, wste na exoyme mia telikh qesh kai gia to sygkekrimeno problhma.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Ara, k. Ypoyrge, h qesh toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy sto Parisi den einai h telikh.

REPPAS: H qesh toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy sto Parisi kai stis alles prwteyoyses einai telikh. Kai einai h qesh poy leei oti, prokeimenoy na yperaspistoyme thn eqnikh mas kyriarxia, qa kanoyme o,ti einai dynaton, xrhsimopoiwntas ekeina ta mesa poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas. Ayth einai h qesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. H Qesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy exei na kanei me thn yperaspish twn eqnikwn symferontwn. Oi taktikes oi opoies akoloyqoyntai, oi xeirismoi oi opoioi prepei na ginoyn en tw metajy, parakalw na afhsoyme na epilegontai kai na ekdhlwnontai analogws twn anagkwn poy yparxoyn kaqe fora.

MAYROS: Einai bebaio oti h xqesinh anakoinwsh an den yphrxe h apeilh ths Megalhs Bretanias qa htan to keimeno ths taytoshmo me mia endexomenh apofash;

REPPAS: Einai to keimeno to opoio eixe syzhthqei sto geyma -eixan symfwnhsei oloi sto geyma se ayto to keimeno- kai sth synedriash h opoia akoloyqhse o ekproswpos ths Agglias ejefrase thn diafwnia toy.

MAYROS: An ayto symbainei (den akoygetai).

REPPAS: Qa moy epitrecete na pw, epeidh akribws exei anaptyxqei enas "dialogos gia ton dialogo", ton perifhmo, metajy Ellados kai Toyrkias, o opoios prepei na aposafhnisqei ws pros thn ejhs pleyra toy: oti h Ellada den arneitai genikws kai aoristws to dialogo me thn Toyrkia. O dialogos exei sygkekrimeno periexomeno, exei sygkekrimeno stoxo kai skopo. Basei aytwn ejetazetai h ajia poy exei o dialogos. H Ellada qewrei pws o dialogos prepei na ginetai sth bash ths isotimias kai ths amoibaias wfeleias. Kai, bebaiws, se tetoia bash den mporei na yparjei dialogos o opoios afora kyriarxika dikaiwmata, afora thn allagh synorwn. Aytos den einai enas isotimos dialogos. Ap'thn allh, h Ellada exei kat'epanalhch proteinei pros thn Toyrkia thn enarjh dialogoy gia qemata poly sygkekrimena, ta opoia bebaiws h Toyrkia, mexri twra, qewrei pws den prepei na apasxolhsoyn tis dyo xwres. Dialogo poy afora to emporio, thn oikonomia, ton toyrismo, ton politismo, toys laqrometanastes, th diwjh narkwtikwn. Kai pisteyw oti ayto deixnei pws h Ellada einai ayth poy kanei protaseis oi opoies sthn prajh epidiwkoyn na ejomalynoyn tis sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn kai na enisxysoyn ena klima filias poy prepei na yparxei, enw apo thn allh pleyra h Toyrkia eite me thn arnhsh ths na syzhthsei ta sygkekrimena qemata, eite me thn arnhsh ths -palaiotera- na ypogracei mazi mas synyposxeti- ko gia thn prosfygh sto Dikasthrio ths Xaghs gia thn orioqethsh ths yfalokripidas, alla kai me thn prosfath spasmwdikh kai gemath neyrikothta kinhsh poy ekane, na anakalesei sthn Agkyra ton edw Presbeyth ths, deixnei oti akribws enoxleitai apo tis prwtoboylies poy anelabe h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh kai -as moy epitrapei na pw- apo tis epityxies poy gnwrizoyn aytes oi prwtoboylies ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs.

MAYROS: Den apanthsate sthn erwthsh.

REPPAS: Qelete na th diatypwsete kai pali;

MAYROS: Apanthsate ws pros ton dialogo. Ayth h anakoinwsh poy ekfrazei th boylhsh twn "13" etairwn mas odhgei se adiejoda. Dioti oyte o dialogos einai efiktos, oyte kai odhgei sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs. Epomenws ti einai ayth h anakoinwsh;

REPPAS: H Toyrkia exei labei th qesh thn opoia exei labei mexri twra. Pisteyw oti h ellhnikh Kybernhsh alla kai ta alla kommata exoyn symfwnhsei s'ayth th qesh epi toy eqnikoy qematos, ths prosfyghs ths Toyrkias sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs. Pisteyw oti einai fronimo kai syneto na epimenoyme emeis s'ayth th qesh kai na elpizoyme - giati oxi; - oti mporei na yparxoyn apotelesmata.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Katalabainw oti ekfrazei h Kybernhsh mia kapoia genikh ikanopoihsh gia ta apotelesmata toy xqesinoy Symboylioy twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn. Ekei omws yparxei kai mia paragrafos h opoia kalei tis dyo pleyres na epideijoyn aytosygkrathsh kai na apexoyn apo kaqe energeia h opoia einai dynaton na ayjhsei thn entash kai kaqe enoplh ekdhlwsh. Qa hqele na ejairesei eaythn h Ellada apo thn paragrafo ayth, apo thn ekfrash ikanopoihshs gia thn paragrafo ayth;

REPPAS: As moy epitrapei na pw oti h paragrafos ayth afora pasidhlws thn Toyrkia. Dioti h Ellada, epeidh akribws sebetai to Dieqnes Dikaio, den prokalei entash. H Ellada den einai ayth poy exei prokalesei entash. Qewroyme oti den exoyme tipota na xasoyme an qewrhqei oti prepei na sebastoyme ena kanona paixnidioy, o opoios kanonas leei oti den prepei na prokaloyme entash. Dioti oyte prokalesame, oyte prokaloyme entash. Dioti emeis poreyomaste symfwna me to Dieqnes Dikaio. Osoi prokaloyn entash, epeidh den sebontai thn dieqnh ennomh tajh, aytoi as doyn ton eyaton toys na fwtografizetai s'ayth thn paragrafo.

MPERMPERAKHS: H qesh ths Ellados gia "mplokarisma" ths diadikasias telwneiakhs enwshs ths Toyrkias briskei katanohsh apo toys alloys etairoys;

REPPAS: Anefera oti h qesh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs einai qesh arnhshs na symprajei sthn proodo ths telwneiakhs syndeshs kai -gia to qema sygkekrimena poy rwtate- sthn ektamieysh porwn sto plaisio toy xrhmatodotikoy kanonismoy apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh pros thn Toyrkia. H qesh mas ayth einai safhs. Einai qesh poy -ek twn pragmatwn apodeiknyetai- oxi mono den apomonwse thn Ellada, opws poly ypociazontan, paroysiazontas thn ws to "mayro probato" - synhqhs ekfrash gia thn Ellada ayth apo to parelqon- alla h Ellada brhke th symfwnia ths megisths pleiochfias twn allwn xwrwn s'ena plaisio qesewn poy briskoyme oti einai arketa ikanopoihtiko.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: To Bretaniko "beto" htan ekplhjh gia thn ellhnikh Kybernhsh; O Agglos Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, poy htan prosfata edw, den ejhghse arketa kaqara th qesh toy; Kai en pash periptwsei ti prokalese to problhma;

REPPAS: H xwra h opoia prepei na dwsei ejhghseis einai h Agglia. Emeis gnwrizoyme oti sto plaisio ths syzhthshs poy egine sto geyma, yphrje symfwnia kai katalhjh s'ayto to keimeno - plaisio. Kai qa eprepe h symfwnia ayth na ekdhlwqei kai kata thn epishmh synedriash twn Ypoyrgwn poy akoloyqhse. H Bretania einai ayth h opoia diaforopoihqhke kai gi'ayto akribws den yphrje h omofwnia olwn twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate prohgoymenws oti to cema exei konta podia. H Kybernhsh leei thn alhqeia; Aisqanetai na exei chlwsei;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh pisteyei oti den exei chlwsei gia ena poly aplo logo. Giati htan panta chlh.

FILHS: Telika poios qa paei to PASOK stis ekloges;

REPPAS: Kai giati to PASOK k. Filh; Bebaiws exei eswteriko ycos. Opws kai eseis exete mia leptothta poy sas diakrinei.

KAMPOYRAKHS: Telika to PASOK stis ekloges poios qa to paei; O Proedros toy Kinhmatos opws leei o k. Xythrhs shmera sth synenteyjh toy h o k. Shmiths;

REPPAS: O k. Xythrhs den eipe ayto, prwta ap'ola. Kai deyteron, oi ekloges qa ginoyn to 1997. Tote qa labete kai thn apanthsh. Ayto poy mporw na sas pw twra einai ena kai poly sygkekrimeno. To PASOK einai eniaio twra kai eniaio qa paei kai stis ekloges.

KAMPOYRAKHS: Me poion;

REPPAS: Me oloys mazi. O kaqenas exei to rolo toy.

MOYRTZHS: Eipate oti oi ekloges qa ginoyn to 1997. O k. Xythrhs omws eisagei kaina daimonia...

REPPAS: Poia kaina daimonia;

MOYRTZHS: Afoy leei oti o Proedros toy PASOK qa odhghsei stis ekloges ...

REPPAS: Eipa oti oi ekloges qa ginoyn to 1997 kai oti qa pame me eniaio to PASOK stis ekloges aytes oi opoies kai qa einai nikhfores. Kai o kaqenas apo ta stelexh toy PASOK qa exei to rolo toy.

MAYROS: Exoyn parelqei 20 hmeres apo tote poy mas eixate anakoinwsei oti syntaxqhke kapoio porisma gia ta gegonota poy synebhsan th nyxta ...

REPPAS: Kyrie Mayro, gi'ayto to qema exei milhsei o k. Arsenhs kai parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas. Sas eyxaristw.

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