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BRIEFING 02-04-96

Greek Government Press Release Directory

From: "Hellenic Ministry of Press and Mass Media" <pegasus@compulink.gr>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 2.4.96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA META TH SYNEDRIASH THS KYBERNHTIKHS EPITROPHS (wra 16.10')

* Synedriase h Kybernhtikh Epitroph.
-Syzhthse to qema ths metoxopoihshs ths DEP kai apofasise th metoxopoihsh toy Omiloy ths DEP. Apofasise dhladh th metoxopoihsh ths DEP sto synolo twn leitoyrgiwn ths (oxi monon enos meroys twn drasthriothtwn ths DEP).
-Apofasise epishs na anaqesei se enan Oiko poy qa exei to rolo toy Symboyloy, th syntajh meleths gia thn anadiorganwsh toy Organismoy (ths Dhmosias Epixeirhshs Petrelaioy) kai thn kalyterh dynath proetoimasia ths Epixeirhshs, en ocei ths metoxopoihshs ths.
-Epishs, sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph syzhthqhke to qema twn kazino. Den elhfqhsan apofaseis, logw kai toy proxwrhmenoy ths wras.
-H Kybernhtikh Epitroph qa synedriasei kai pali - opoy kai qa asxolhqei me to qema twn kazino - meqayrio Pempth (4.4.96) stis 11.00 to prwi, prin dhladh apo th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, to opoio - opws gnwrizete - qa synelqei stis 12.00 to meshmeri, thn idia mera.
-To Ypoyrgiko Symboylio - ypenqymizw - kata th meqayrianh synedriash toy qa asxolhqei me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs. Qemata poy aforoyn to swfronistiko systhma af' enos, af'eteroy de to nomo peri eyqynhs Ypoyrgwn.
-Prin mpoyme sth syzhthsh mas, qa hqela na apanthsw se mia erwthsh poy exei diatypwqei graptws apo to Galliko Praktoreio Eidhsewn, h opoia einai h ejhs: Pws sxoliazei h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh th synanthsh sta Tirana twn Ypoyrgwn Amynhs Albanias, Boylgarias, Toyrkias, FYROM;

APANTHSH: Exoyme dwsei apanthsh sto sygkekrimeno qema. Epanerxomai, epeidh h erwthsh exei diatypwqei graptws, gia logoys deontologias, sxoliazontas ta ejhs: H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh qelei na yparxei sthn perioxh klima omalothtas kai synergasias. Pisteyei oti gia na ejasfalisqei ayto kai h staqerothta kai h asfaleia sthn perioxh, apaitoyntai proypoqe- seis metajy twn opoiwn poly shmantikh einai h symmetoxh olwn twn xwrwn - kratwn ths perioxhs, se tetoioy eidoys synergasies. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh einai anoikth, prosblepei se tetoies synergasies, wste na ejasfalizontai monimws kai diarkws h staqerothta kai h asfaleia sthn perioxh mas. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

SKOYRHS: Otan lete "metoxopoihsh ths DEP sto synolo ths", ennoeite se pososto 100%;

REPPAS: Oxi, den eipa "sto synolo ths", kyrie Skoyrh. Eipa "sto synolo twn leitoyrgiwn ths". Sto synolo twn drasthriothtwn poy exei h DEP. H DEP apartizetai apo enan Omilo Epixeirhsewn.

SKOYRHS: Se ti pososto synepws;

REPPAS: H DEP einai enas Omilos Epixeirhsewn kai h metoxopoihsh afora th DEP sto synolo twn drasthriothtwn ths. Dioti yphrjan kapoies skeceis poy exoyn grafei, exoyn diatypwqei kata kairoys, na yparjei metoxopoihsh enos meroys ths DEP (dhladh enos meroys twn leitoyrgiwn ths) h mias etaireias qygatrikhs ths DEP. Sas lew, loipon, oti h politikh apofash afora th metoxopoihsh ths DEP sto synolo twn leitoyrgiwn ths. To pososto to opoio qa metoxopoihqei, den apofasisqhke. Qa apofasisqei se mia epomenh fash, afoy yparjei kai h proodos syntajhs ths meleths apo ton symboyleytiko oiko, ston opoio qa anateqei ayth h meleth. Kai metajy twn allwn qa prosblepei - epanalambanw kai pali - sthn kalyterh proetoimasia ths DEP gia th metoxopoihsh ths.

MOYRTZHS: To "manatzment" to paraxwreite se idiwth;

REPPAS: Kyrie Moyrtzh, prepei na sas pw oti etsi ki alliws, xwris na exei lhfqei apofash epi toy posostoy twn metoxwn poy qa eisaxqoyn sto Xrhmatisthrio (to pososto ayto asfalws qa einai meiochfiko pososto, ayto einai dedomeno), to "manatzment" qa parameinei ston elegxo toy Dhmosioy kai pali. Kai einai kati to opoio yparxei shmera, einai kati gia to opoio den yparxei diaforetikh apofash. Kai ayto prepei na eklabete, oti to kaqestws to opoio sas einai gnwsto (to yparxon dhladh) paramenei.

MOYRTZHS: Symfwna me ton isologismo ths, h DEP eixe meion h syn;

REPPAS: H DEP einai mia kerdoforos epixeirhsh. Kai pisteyw oti to egxeirhma toy OTE kanei elkystikh thn prospaqeia ths Kybernhshs na thn eisagei sto Xrhmatisthrio, prokeimenoy na eksygxronisei kai alles epixeirhseis toy Dhmosioy.

SKOYRHS: H Ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs kyria Basw Papandreoy, prosfata, eipe oti to pososto metoxopoihshs ths DEP qa einai gyrw sto 10%. Oi problhmatismoi poy yparxoyn kai me dedomenh thn epityxia ston OTE, einai gia megalytero pososto;

REPPAS: Eimai kathgorhmatikos sto oti den yphrje syzhthsh kai diaforetikes apoceis epi toy posostoy metoxwn ths DEP, to opoio prepei na eisaxqei sto Xrhmatisthrio. Den asxolhqhke h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me to pososto twn metoxwn. Ayto qa ginei se mia epomenh fash, opws sas eipa.

KOGIANNHS: Ti akribws ginetai me to qema twn kazino; Sygkekrimena me to qema toy paraliakoy kazino edw sthn Aqhna; Kai gyrw apo poy periestrafh h syzhthsh;

REPPAS: Yparxei mia ekkremothta - opws katalabainete - kyrie Kogiannh gyrw apo to qema ayto. H Kybernhtikh Epitroph asxolhqhke me to qema, anaptyxqhke enas dialogos, anthllaghsan apoceis. H syzhthsh qa synexisqei thn erxomenh Pempth (4.4.96). Den yparxei kapoia apofash h opoia na einai pros anakoinwsh ayth thn wra.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mas eipate oti egine genikh syzhthsh gia ta kazino. Eipan gia poia kazino na katarghqoyn h na mhn doqoyn adeies; (p.x. sthn Hpeiro, k.lp.).

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, epanalambanw kai pali, meta apo thn eishghsh ths armodias Ypoyrgoy kas Papandreoy, anaptyxqhke enas dialogos. Akoysthkan diafores apoceis. Nomizw oti qa htan para poly dyskolo na apodwsw me akribeia tis apoceis poy ejefrasan ta melh ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. Parakalw, na anameinete tis apofaseis poy qa lhfqoyn sthn epomenh synedriash ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H Kybernhtikh Epitroph den asxolhqhke kaqoloy me ta agrotika qemata, me toys kthnotrofoys;

REPPAS: H Kybernhtikh Epitroph den eixe sthn hmerhsia diatajh ths qema sxetiko me th Gewrgia. Asxolhqhke epistamenws me ta qemata ths Gewrgias sthn prohgoymenh synedriash ths - to gnwrizete para poly kala - kai brisketai se ejelijh mia meleth, mia ergasia poy kanei h Kybernhsh me ta organa ths, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisei kata ton kalytero tropo ta problhmata poy ontws anagnwrizoyme oti yparxoyn sto gewrgiko tomea.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizei h Kybernhsh ta epeisodia poy eginan shmera sth Qessaloni- kh; Den thn aphsxolhsan;

REPPAS: Ma, tetoioy eidoys symbanta, kyrie Stamatopoyle, thn teleytaia periodo eixame. Kai qewrw para poly shmantiko ek meroys ths Kybernhshs to oti exei deijei eyaisqhsia wste na anagnwrizei pws pragmatika yparxoyn problhmata af'enos kai af'eteroy stis ychles proteraiothtes ths na qesei kai ta qemata Gewrgias, ta opoia me systhmatiko tropo meleta kai syntoma qa ta antimetwpisei lysitelws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi kinhtopoihseis einai qema roytinas...

REPPAS: Poia einai ta qemata roytinas, kyrie Stamatopoyle;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ton teleytaio kairo ginontai synexws tetoies kinhtopoihseis, opote den einai kati to kainoyrgio dhladh.

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, to na yparxoyn kinhtopoihseis einai kati poy apolyta syndeetai me thn yparjh twn problhmatwn. Problhmata yparxoyn kai to anagnwrizoyme. Alla, parakalw, mhn ejagete symperasmata apo tis kinhtopoihseis poy yparxoyn. An prepei aytes kai mono na einai h bash gia ta symperasmata mas, qa moy epitrecete na pw oti se olh th xwra yparxei megalh hremia, giati oi kinhtopoioymenoi einai ena apeiroelaxisto - mikro - pososto se sxesh me aytoys, oi opoioi hrema proserxontai sthn ergasia toys h drasthriopoioyntai kanonika sto hmerhsio programma toys. Den qa hqela na mpoyme se mia tetoioy eidoys antidikia. Problhmata, anamfisbhthta, yparxoyn sthn ellhnikh koinwnia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ma, den antidikoyme, kyrie Ypoyrge.

REPPAS: Asfalws. Alla dinete thn entypwsh oti yparxei mia anastatwsh sthn ellhnikh koinwnia, prokeimenoy se deytero plano - as to pw etsi - na ejaxqei to symperasma oti h Kybernhsh antimetwpizei laiko jeshkwmo!! Kai gnwrizete arista oti kati tetoio den symbainei. H idia h Kybernhsh anagnwrizei oti yparxoyn problhmata, meleta ta problhmata. Exei dwsei ychlh proteraiothta sta qemata Gewrgias - epanalambanw - kai pisteyw oti syntoma qa dwsei apotelesmatikes apanthseis kai lyseis sta problhmata ayta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pantws oi shmerines kinhtopoihseis htan apo th Larisa mexri kai ton Ebro. Den einai tipota ayto...!

REPPAS: Ayto shmainei oti einai drasthrioi. Einai shmantiko. Asfalws kai einai shmantiko. Pws den shmainei kati; Shmainei oti kapoioi anqrwpoi, piezomenoi apo ta problhmata toys, briskoyn ayton ton tropo na diekdikhsoyn thn epilysh toys. Sebastos o tropos kai to dikaiwma me bash to opoio oi anqrwpoi aytoi ekfrazoyn thn agwnia toys. Apolyta sebasto. H Kybernhsh exei thn politikh ths. Kai me thn politikh ayth pisteyoyme oti qa dwsoyme lyseis s'ayta ta problhmata.

SKOYRHS: H Kybernhsh qewrei th dhmioyrgia newn kazino ws stoixeio anaptyjiako kai stoixeio eksygxronismoy ths ellhnikhs koinwnias;

REPPAS: Kyrie Skoyrh, h Kybernhsh den exei "politikh kazino". H Kybernhsh aplws prepei na antimetwpisei ekkremothtes oi opoies yparxoyn, ekkremothtes oi opoies jekinoyn apo symbaseis poy hdh exoyn ypografei kai den exei oloklhrwqei h ylopoihsh toys. H politikh epilogh mas asfalws den exei na kanei me thn egkatastash kazino se oles tis gwnies ths Ellados. Apo thn allh, omws, mia Kybernhsh h opoia sebetai toys nomoys kai ton eayto ths prepei na deixnei pws leitoyrgei sta plaisia ths nomimothtas kai anagnwrizei tis symbaseis tis opoies ws ypoxrewsh exei analabei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Las Begkas exoyme ginei...!

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, na eiste sigoyros -pairnw aformh kai apo thn erwthsh toy k. Skoyrh- oti kaqe allo para qa eimeqa aploxeroi sth dhmioyrgia kazino. Alla kai apo thn allh den mporoyme na agnohsoyme oti yparxoyn ypoxrewseis oi opoies exoyn analhfqei me symbaseis oi opoies exoyn ypografei.

SKOYRHS: Mono gia ekei poy yparxoyn ekkremeis symbaseis kanoyme logo...

REPPAS: Nomizw oti apanthsh exete labei peri toy an exei sxesh me thn anaptyjh kai ton eksygxronismo h dhmioyrgia kai leitoyrgia newn kazino sthn Ellada.

MOYRTZHS: Sas ikanopoioyn oi symbaseis poy exoyn ginei mexri stigmhs h prokeitai na anaqewrhqoyn kai oi yparxoyses;

REPPAS: Kyrie Moyrtzh, yparxoyn problhmatismoi. Kai me aytoys toys problhmatismoys anaptyxqhke o dialogos. Parakalw na anamenete tis apofaseis poy qa lhfqoyn thn erxomenh Pempth.

KOGIANNHS: Qemata Olympiakhs Aeroporias den syzhthqhkan;

REPPAS: Oxi, logw toy oti eixe parelqei h wra kai eixe synergasia o armodios Ypoyrgos me ton k. Prwqypoyrgo gia ta sygkekrimena qemata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Syzhthqhke mhpws kai to qema toy kazino sto Loytraki, dedomenoy oti xrwsta kapoia xrhmata ta opoia den dinei;

REPPAS: Syzhthqhkan ta panta ta opoia exoyn sxesh me th leitoyrgia twn kazino sthn Ellada oson afora ayta poy hdh leitoyrgoyn alla kai tis ypoxrewseis poy exei to ellhniko kratos apenanti se etaireies me tis opoies exei ypogracei symbash gia th dhmioyrgia newn kazino. Ta panta syzhthqhkan.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla h etaireia h opoia exei ypoxrewseis...

REPPAS: Etsi kai alliws to ellhniko dhmosio exei mhxanismoys kai prepei, ana pasa stigmh, me bash aytoys toys mhxanismoys, me epimeleia, na asxoleitai me to kata poson oi etaireies oi opoies exoyn idrysei kazino einai synepeis stis ypoxrewseis poy exoyn analabei.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Gia to tajidi toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy stis HPA hqela na rwthsw kai me aformh ayto poy eipate xqes oti o k. Klinton einai Proedros mias megalhs xwras poy askei epirroh. O Prwqypoyrgos qa zhthsei apo ton k. Klinton na askhsei thn epirroh toy kai pros thn Toyrkia gia kapoio qema;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa ekqesei tis ellhnikes apoceis -opws eipa kai xqes- kai qa zhthsei apo ton k. Klinton na dexqei oti to Dieqnes Dikaio, oi Dieqneis Symfwnies kai oi sxeseis kalhs geitonias prepei na einai h bash sthn opoia qa anaptyxqoyn oi ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Toyrkos Presbys klhqhke shmera sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai toy epedoqh grapth diakoinwsh;

REPPAS: Sas anakoinwsa xqes oti qa epidoqei grapth diakoinwsh. Nomizw oti ayto, an den ginei entos ths hmeras, qa ginei ayrio to argotero.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Phge hdh sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

REPPAS: Den to gnwrizw, giati erxomai apo thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph. An den ginei shmera qa ginei ayrio. Efoson lete, omws, oti hdh eklhqh, mporei na egine. Den to gnwrizw. Gnwrizw apo xqes, omws, oti prokeitai na proboyme se rhmatikh diakoinwsh pros thn Toyrkia.
Sas eyxaristw poly.

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