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Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-02-12

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 12.2.1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa hqela na sas enhmerwsw, gia na anoijoyme to dialogo mas, sxetika me thn protash toy Toyrkoy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn k. Tzem, thn opoia paroysiazei ws protash pente shmeiwn pros thn Ellada.

KIAOS: Poy thn ekane;

REPPAS: Epedwse ena sxetiko shmeiwma ston Ellhna presbh sthn Agkyra. H protash ayth einai -qa elega- mia epanalhch gnwstwn qesewn. Den einai dynaton na antimetwpisoyme qetika thn protash sto synolo ths, doqentos oti afenos perilambanei qemata ta opoia antimetwpizontai hdh h einai se ejelijh xeirismoi gia ta qemata ayta kai afeteroy epanaferei thn pagia protash ths Toyrkias gia synanthsh kai apeyqeias dialogo twn dyo xwrwn gia tis "diafores", opws onomazei o k. Tzem to sygkekrimeno shmeio ths protashs toy, poy dhqen yparxoyn metajy twn dyo xwrwn sto Aigaio. Zhtaei dhladh:

* Na yparxei enas koinos prosdiorismos apo tis dyo xwres twn diaforwn toys sto Aigaio.

* Ena deytero shmeio ths protashs einai h epishmopoihsh ths "Synqhkhs ths Madriths", opws thn anaferei.

* Ena trito shmeio anaferetai sth beltiwsh kai thn efarmogh kai apo tis dyo xwres metrwn empistosynhs sto Aigaio, me bash th mesolabhsh toy Genikoy Grammatea toy NATO k. Solana.

* To tetarto shmeio anaferetai sth sygklhsh ths "Omadas twn Sofwn", poy exoyn orisei oi dyo xwres kai

* To pempto shmeio anaferetai sthn pragmatopoihsh synanthshs, se ychlo epipedo, metajy ekproswpwn twn Ypoyrgeiwn Ejwterikwn twn dyo xwrwn.

Antilambaneste pws oson afora to deytero shmeio, den prokeitai peri "Synqhkhs ths Madriths". Prokeitai gia mia politikh diakhryjh ths opoias to periexomeno sebomaste. Pisteyoyme oti kai h Toyrkia prepei na kanei to idio. Den yparxei kati kainoyrgio, dhladh, sthn protash poy diatypwnei o Toyrkos Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn.

Oson afora to trito shmeio, pragmati yparxei hdh epikoinwnia kai synergasia twn ekproswpwn twn dyo xwrwn sto NATO, toy k. Sabaidh kai toy k. Oimen, oi opoioi, sto plaisio protashs poy exei diatypwsei o k. Solana, syzhtoyn qemata poy aforoyn thn oikodomhsh metrwn empistosynhs. Kai edw, loipon, den yparxei kati kainoyrgio sthn protash ayth.

To allo shmeio anaferetai sth sygklhsh ths "Omadas twn Sofwn", twn empeirognwmonwn poy exoyn orisei oi dyo xwres. Exoyme pei kat' epanalhch pws h Toyrkia einai ayth h opoia meta thn prosfath apofash sth Synodo Koryfhs toy Loyjemboyrgoy, den epiqymei na anameignyetai h Eyrwph se qemata poy thn aforoyn. Me ayth thn ennoia, den eynoei th synanthsh twn Sofwn. Emeis pisteyoyme pws h koinotikh ayth prwtoboylia prepei na proxwrhsei, ws koinotikh prwtoboylia. Den exoyme kamia antirrhsh, dhladh, h Bretanikh Proedria kai oi Ollandoi, oi opoioi eixan thn empneysh gia th dhmioyrgia aytoy toy sxhmatos, na parakoloyqhsoyn kai na symbaloyn sto na ejelixqei peraiterw ayth h diadikasia.

Oson afora to qema ths synanthshs, eipa kai pali pws yparxei ayth h epikoinwnia. Oi presbeis twn dyo xwrwn sto NATO exoyn hdh synennohsh gia sygkekrimena qemata.

Kai menei pleon to prwto shmeio ths protashs, kata to opoio o k. Tzem proteinei ton koino prosdiorismo, apo tis dyo xwres, twn "diaforwn" sto Aigaio. Exoyme pei kat' epanalhch pws qema diaforas sto Aigaio yfistatai monon oson afora thn yfalokrhpida. Exoyme proteinei sygkekrimenh diadikasia gia thn antimetwpish toy qematos aytoy. Opws epishs, me thn politikh ths "bhma pros bhma proseggishs", exoyme symbalei wste na einai safhs o tropos me ton opoio mporoyme na proxwrhsoyme se ejomalynsh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn. H Toyrkia, h opoia allwste den anagnwrizei th dikaiodosia toy Dikasthrioy ths Xaghs, qa prepei na analabei prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy na symbalei s' ayth thn prospaqeia.

Den yparxei, loipon, kati kainoyrgio. Yparxei ena meigma palaiwn ajiwsewn ths Toyrkias, opws ayth gia thn apo koinoy epishmansh kai prosdiorismo twn dhqen diaforwn poy yparxoyn sto Aigaio, enw prokeitai gia monomereis ajiwseis ths. Apo thn allh, sthn protash ayth periexontai anafores se qemata ta opoia -epanalambanw- hdh exoyn antimetwpistei me diaforoys tropoys. Ayta apo meroys moy. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epontai oi dhlwseis toy k. Tzem h prohghqhsan aytes oi dhlwseis toy Anaplhrwth Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn, toy k. G. Papandreoy, xqes, se ekdhlwsh sth Qessalonikh, poy eipe oti den apokleioyme na pame se dialogo me thn Toyrkia gia kapoies lyseis, an oi protaseis einai qetikes;

REPPAS: O k. Papandreoy den eipe akribws ayto. Eipe oti mporoyme na broyme th dynatothta synennohshs me thn Toyrkia gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn. Den milhse gia dialogo, ypo thn ennoia ths diapragmateyshs, opws kapoioi isws to ermhneyoyn. H protash toy k. Tzem pros thn Ellhnikh Kybernhsh mesw aytwn twn pente shmeiwn egine shmera. Den nomizw oti yparxei synafeia ths dhlwshs toy Ellhna Ypoyrgoy me thn prwtoboylia toy Toyrkoy Ypoyrgoy. Ayta antilambaneste pws den ginontai me tropo spasmwdiko kai apospasmatiko. Dioti, prin o Toyrkos Ypoyrgos diatypwsei ayth thn protash, profanws exei prohghqei sthn Toyrkia, sto epiteleio toy, mia sxetikh proergasia.

PODHMATA: H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh protiqetai na apanthsei arnhtika h protiqetai na diatypwsei antiprotash s' ayto sto opoio basizetai h protash Tzem;

REPPAS: H qesh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs gia ta pente shmeia, einai h qesh poy se genikes grammes sas aneptyja molis prin.

PODHMATA: Ayth qa th diatypwsete dhladh me ton idio tropo; Mesw kapoias rhmatikhs diakoinwshs;

REPPAS: Prepei na pw oti h diadikasia h opoia qa epilegei, qa ejetastei apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. An prepei na doqei graptws kai epishmws apanthsh apo thn Ellhnikh Kybernhsh, dia ths analoghs odoy, qa ginei kai ayto, afoy melethqei h protash.

G. KAMPOYRAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, dedomenoy oti den yparxei kati to kainoyrgio, opws mas eipate, se ayth thn protash, pws ermhneyei h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh ayth thn kinhsh ths Toyrkias. Giati na proxwrhsei se ena tetoio keimeno;

REPPAS: H Toyrkia, kata kairoys, epanalambanei tis qeseis ths. Isws h politikh sygkyria epiballei na prajei to idio twra, en ocei ths Eyrwpaikhs Diaskechs, sthn opoia exei ekfrasei mia arnhtikh qesh. Exei pei oti den qa labei meros. Isws, qewrei skopimo na epanelqei, prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghsei katallhles synqhkes, wste na epanasyndesei th sxesh ths me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Emeis qeloyme na yparxei ayth h sxesh ths Toyrkias me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, opws qeloyme oi sxeseis ths Toyrkias me thn Ellada na ginoyn poly kalyteres. Ayto ejartatai apo thn idia kai qa prepei na analabei sxetikes prwtoboylies, tis opoies mexri twra den analambanei.

KIAOS: Symfwneite me tis skeceis kai protaseis toy Anaplhrwth Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn gia to dialogo kai oxi diapragmateysh, opws eipate, jexwrizontas to ena apo to allo;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti h mia morfh dialogoy einai hdh se ejelijh mesw ths synergasias twn Presbewn - antiproswpwn twn dyo xwrwn sto NATO. Tetoies dynatothtes epikoinwnias kai dialogoy yparxoyn se polla epipeda. Ayto, omws, einai poly diaforetiko apo to na miloyme gia ena dialogo ef' olhs ths ylhs, ena politikoy xarakthra dialogo, o opoios periexei diapragmateyseis.

KARAKWSTAS: Problhmatizei h oxi thn Kybernhsh h xronikh stigmh poy epeleje o k. Tzem na kataqesei th sygkekrimenh protash, doqentos oti ligo prin me bebaiwseis toy o tote arxhgos toy toyrkikoy naytikoy nayarxos Sekager se dhlwseis toy leei oyte ligo, oyte poly oti h Agkyra, ekeinh thn periodo twn Imia, hqele polemo gia to sygkekrimeno symban.

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti h protash thn opoia kanei o k. Tzem qa etyxe kai analoghs epejergasias apo to YPEJ ths Toyrkias. Alla, me thn protash ayth den prokyptei kati neo. Oson afora twra tis dhlwseis poy ekane o Toyrkos ajiwmatoyxos, o Toyrkos arxhgos naytikoy, mporw na kanw thn ejhs epishmansh: Apo tis dhlwseis aytes, ef' oson antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia, bgainei abiasta to symperasma prwton, oson afora th Dieqnh Koinothta, oti h Toyrkia den akoloyqei pantote ena fileirhniko dromo gia na askhsei politikh kai deyteron, oson afora thn Ellada, h Toyrkia epediwke polemikh syrrajh me thn Ellada, prokeimenoy di' aytoy toy tropoy na odhghqoyme sto trapezi twn diapragmateysewn. H omologia ayth einai, qa moy epitrecete na pw, mia akomh epibebaiwsh ths orqothtas kai ths apotelesmatikothtas twn xeirismwn poy ekane me epityxia h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh sthn krish ths Imias. Giati, polles fores, eipame oti me apofasistikothta kai synesh prepei na antimetwpisoyme ayth thn toyrkikh proklhsh, prokeimenoy afenos na diasfalisoyme ta kyriarxika dikaiwmata mas kai afeteroy na mhn epitrecoyme sthn Toyrkia na mas syrei me thn politikh ths sto trapezi twn diapragmateysewn. Petyxame kai stoys dyo aytoys stoxoys. H Toyrkia apetyxe na mas odhghsei, me bash to sxedio to opoio eixe ekponhsei, ekei poy ekeinh hqele. Ayto, loipon, epanalambanw, apodeiknyei pws eixame th sofia, thn pronoia, to dynamismo kai thn apofasistikothta poy eprepe, sth swsth dosh to kaqena, prokeimenoy na kanoyme aytoys toys epityxeis xeirismoys.

ZHKIDHS: Sthn teleytaia synanthsh toy k. Bentrin me ton k. Kinkel afeqhke na ennohqei oti h Ellada threi mia stash kapws parelkystikh. Enw leei, dhladh, oti qelei thn eyrwpaikh proseggish ths Toyrkias, parallhla thn empodizei mplokarontas th xrhmatodothsh ths apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

REPPAS: H eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Toyrkias einai synyfasmenh, poly perissotero taytismenh qa elega, me thn apodoxh orismenwn arxwn, poy apoteloyn ajies kai kanones leitoyrgias gia thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. H Toyrkia ef' oson den dexetai aytoys toys kanones pws mporei na filodojei na exei eyrwpaikh troxia; Allwste, to plaisio twn orwn, twn proypoqesewn kai twn kanonwn aytwn to exoyn apofasisei apo koinoy oi 15 etairoi ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs se Synodoys Koryfhs h se Symboylia Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn. To plaisio ayto, loipon, to opoio orioqetei tis eyrwtoyrkikes sxeseis prepei na ginei sebasto kai apo thn Toyrkia kai, bebaiws, den prepei na milame gia ellhnotoyrkikh diafora. H diastash qesewn einai metajy ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs afenos kai ths Toyrkias, afeteroy.

BITSENTZOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw an sto keimeno toys oi Toyrkoi anaferontai kaqoloy sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio, estw ws mia ystath lysh...

REPPAS: Anafereste sto keimeno protasewn twn 5 shmeiwn.

BITSENTZOY: Nai. An yparxei h lejh Dieqnes Dikasthrio, ean stoys empeirognwmones epanaferoyn th dimerh synanthsh h afhnoyn anoixth thn piqanh diaithsia Ollandwn h Bretanwn kai an ayto to peri katagrafhs twn diaforwn einai se ayto to plaisio toy Ntabos, epi Papandreoy. Dhladh, kapoioi empeirognwmones na katagracoyn tis diafores;

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola proteinei th synanthsh se ychlo epipedo ekproswpwn twn dyo Ypoyrgeiwn kai pisteyw oti sto plaisio ayths ths synanthshs epiqymei na prowqhsei thn katagrafh aytwn twn diaforwn metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Ayto einai kati to opoio exei diatypwqei ws protash ths Toyrkias sto parelqon kai den exei ginei dekto apo emas.

BITSENTZOY: Eixe symfwnhqei sto Ntabos.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti ayth den einai h politikh h opoia akoloyqeitai, edw kai arketa xronia, sthn Patrida mas, politikh h opoia epitrepei mia tetoia proseggish sta qemata poy mas apasxoloyn. Oson afora, to qema ths synanthshs twn empeirognwmonwn twn dyo xwrwn exoyme pei pws me thn eyrwpaikh prwtoboylia, poy exei analhfqei, prepei na proxwrhsei ayth h diadikasia. Den anaferetai o k. Tzem, sthn protash thn opoia kanei, an zhtaei na synanthqoyn ap' eyqeias h ypo thn aigida h me th symbolh toy eyrwpaikoy paragonta oi empeirognwmones twn dyo xwrwn. Nomizw, omws, oti h protash thn opoia exoyn diatypwsei, prosfatws, oi Toyrkoi gia synanthsh twn dyo pleyrwn, xwris thn paroysia h mesolabhsh toy eyrwpaikoy paragonta prepei na epanaferetai. Kai twra, se ayth thn prwtoboylia prepei na isxyei, dhladh. Ayto einai kati to opoio den dexomaste. Oson afora thn anafora sto keimeno ayto stis diadikasies toy Dieqnoys Dikasthrioy, prepei na pw oti den ginetai kamia anafora.

SOYGLERHS: Mhpws einai kairos na energopoihqei to Symboylio Ejwterikhs Politikhs;

REPPAS: Yparxei epikoinwnia ths politikhs hgesias toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn me toys politikoys paragontes poy endiaferontai eite na enhmerwqoyn, eite na proteinoyn metra kai prwtoboylies gia th beltiwsh ths ejwterikhs politikhs poy askoyme. De xreiazetai na kanoyme kati allo.

KIAOS: Ti syzhthse, xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Cyxarh, meta me ton k. Mpompola kai meta me ton k. Androylidakh;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei, kata kairoys, synanthseis me diaforoys paragontes ths dhmosias zwhs, poly perissotero, otan oi paragontes aytoi exoyn sxesh me to xwro ths enhmerwshs. Einai oi idioi poy symballoyn sthn enhmerwsh toy ellhnikoy laoy gia tis politikes ejelijeis kai oxi mono. Logiko einai. Pantote oi politikoi hgetes kai oi Prwqypoyrgoi exoyn synanthseis me paragontes apo to xwro twn MME.

KIAOS: Dhladh, syzhthsan qemata enhmerwshs;

REPPAS: Syzhthsan genika qemata ta opoia apasxoloyn thn Koinh Gnwmh kai bebaiws antallajan apoceis gia qemata ths epikairothtas.

KIAOS: Mporeite na mas peite eidikotera, ti aneptyje o Prwqypoyrgos ston k. Cyxarh, ston k. Mpompola kai ston k. Androylidakh, oson afora tis apoceis ths Kybernhshs se qemata enhmerwshs;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, opws kai arketes fores sto parelqon, anaferqhke sthn ejelijh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, stoys prosanatolismoys ths Kybernhshs, sto orama mas gia thn Ellada toy 2000. Allwste, gnwrizete poly kala, oti eite sto plaisio geymatwn, eite sto plaisio synanthsewn, exei doqei eykairia stoys anqrwpoys twn MME na plhroforhqoyn, apeyqeias, apo ton Prwqypoyrgo tis apoceis kai tis kateyqynseis ths Kybernhshs mas gia ta qemata ths xwras. Den einai kati poy ginetai gia prwth fora.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, dhladh, eimaste poly konta sto na doyme ton k. Shmith na synantatai kai me alloys paragontes, opws p.x. ton k. Alafoyzo;

REPPAS: Exei kanei diafores synanthseis o Prwqypoyrgos. Exei synanthqei kai me alloys ekdotes. Ayto panta ginotan kai nomizw oti panta prepei na ginetai. Kai gia na symplhrwsw thn apanthsh poy edwsa ston k. Kiao, p.x. ton k. Fyntanidh ton exei synanthsei poly prin, thn prohgoymenh h thn pro prohgoymenh ebdomada, opws kai alloys. Ayto einai kati poy ginetai. Kai me ekplhssei to o,ti sas projenei entypwsh. Ayto, gnwrizete, oti einai mia diadikasia, h opoia pagiws akoloyqeitai. Einai dynaton enas politikos arxhgos, enas Prwqypoyrgos na mh syzhta me toys epikefalhs twn MME ths patridas mas;

MOYRTZHS: Toys aphyqyne prosklhsh o Prwqypoyrgos h oi idioi zhthsan na synanthqoyn mazi toy;

REPPAS: Diatypwnontai, kata kairoys, aithmata gia synanthseis me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Alla kai o idios, sto plaisio ths oikonomias toy programmatos toy, epidiwkei na exei synanthseis kai na antallassei apoceis me diaforoys paragontes ths dhmosias zwhs. Kai paragontes ths dhmosias zwhs einai kai oi anqrwpoi twn MME.

KAMPOYRGIANNH: Na epanelqw sto prohgoymeno qema: Yparxei kapoia emmesh apeilh s' ayto to keimeno twn pente shmeiwn; Oti dhladh, an den lyqoyn ta problhmata qa odhghqoyme se dienejh;

REPPAS: Den qa elega oti yparxei apeilh. Antiqeta, mporw na pw oti thn protash ayth toy k. Tzem, ginetai prospaqeia na thn paroysiasei h Toyrkia, ws ekklhsh ths Toyrkias pros thn Ellada.

KONTOPOYLOS: Ena tmhma ths Neolaias toy PASOK eipe oti den qa parastei sto Synedrio ths Neolaias toy PASOK. O Prwqypoyrgos qa parastei sto Synedrio;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai Proedros toy PASOK. Oson afora ta qemata toy Kinhmatos kai ths Neolaias toy, den eimai armodios na milhsw egw. Oson afora ton Prwqypoyrgo, mporw na pw mono toyto: Oti pantote o Proedros toy PASOK sta synedria (poy einai synedria toy Kinhmatos) h sta synedria (poy einai synedria ths Neolaias toy PASOK) einai parwn kai ekfwnei logo. Ayto einai aytonohto.

MANH: O Dieyqynths ths ERA-1, k. Gewrgakopoylos, apomakrynqhke apo th qesh toy kai phge symboylos sthn ERT. Poio einai to skeptiko poy efyge apo th mia qesh kai phge sthn allh. Pws symbibazetai;

REPPAS: O k. Gewrgakopoylos exei ypogracei symbash me thn Ellhnikh Radiofwnia-Thleorash, h opoia den exei lhjei, einai ergazomenos. H ERT, mesw ths Dioikhshs ths, exei anagnwrisei to qetiko ergo to opoio exei epitelesei, ws Dieyqynths toy A' Programmatos toy ellhnikoy Radiofwnoy. Qewrei oti prepei na ajiopoihqei h gnwsh kai h ikanothta toy, sto plaisio ths epixeirhshs kai gi ayto toy aneqese ta kaqhkonta toy Symboyloy toy Proedroy. Den ypografhke kapoia nea symbash. H symbash toy k. Gewrgakopoyloy einai se ejelijh. Einai ergazomenos ths ellhnikhs Radiofwnias kai prepei na ajiopoihqei kata ton kalytero tropo.

SOYRMELH: Skeftetai h Kybernhsh, se synergasia me th Dioikhsh ths Olympiakhs, na dwsei se jenes etaireies, proswrina, tis pthseis ths O.A. h orismenes apo tis pthseis; Einai to kentriko qema ths efhmeridas "TA NEA" shmera.

REPPAS: H prospaqeia poy kanei h Kybernhsh gia thn prowqhsh twn diarqrwtikwn allagwn, thn ejygiansh twn dhmosiwn epixeirhsewn, exei enan teliko skopo: Na prosferoyme kalyteres yphresies ston polith. Sthn prospaqeia mas ayth, logiko einai na skefqoyme ola ekeina ta metra ta opoia prepei na laboyme, wste ayto na ginei efikto. Sto plaisio ayths ths politikhs, h O.A. ejetazei ola ta endexomena.

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Ayrio poy ginetai h ideologikh syndiaskech toy PASOK den einai aparaithto na kanoyme briefing.

REPPAS: Kalws!

Eyxaristw poly.


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