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Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-04-06

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 6.4.1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos qa labei ayrio meros sto Synedrio poy organwnetai apo ton k. Mpler gia ta qemata ths sygxronhs Aristeras. Ek meroys toy PASOK qa labei meros epishs kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos o opoios tajideyei gi' ayto to skopo sto Londino.

* Aytes tis hmeres episkeptetai thn patrida mas o Proedros ths filhs xwras ths Dhmokratias ths Polwnias k. Alejanter Kbasniefski me ton opoio o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synomilies to prwi ths Tetarths.

* Thn Paraskeyh qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Qa syzhthqei h protash toy Ypoyrgoy Ergasias Miltiadh Papaiwannoy gia to eqniko sxedio poy afora thn apasxolhsh. Oi ryqmiseis oi opoies problepontai, odhgoyn se mia prosarmogh kai enarmonish me to kaqestws poy isxyei sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Epiqymia mas einai na antimetwpisoyme to problhma ths anergias me ton kalytero dynato tropo. Qa akoloyqhsei dialogos, meta th syzhthsh sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, prokeimenoy se peripoy ena mhna h politikh ayth na parei th morfh nomosxedioy, to opoio qa katateqei sth Boylh.

* Gnwrizete oti aytes tis hmeres qa ginei h syzhthsh kai h epichfish toy nomosxedioy gia thn ejygiansh ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias. Pisteyoyme oti h diadikasia dialogoy h opoia ajiopoihqhke tis teleytaies hmeres qa apotelesei ena epiprosqeto qetiko stoixeio, prokeimenoy oi telikes ryqmiseis na antapokrinontai sto aithma gia th swthria kai thn anakamch toy eqnikoy aerometaforea. Oi ergazomenoi, pisteyoyme oti qa deijoyn mexri teloys thn kalh diaqesh na symbaloyn s' ayth thn prospaqeia poy kanoyme, prokeimenoy h Olympiakh Aeroporia na katastei antagwnistikh kai ajiopisth.

* Yparxei ena qema to opoio dhmioyrghqhke me to xqesino prwtoselido dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas "KYRIAKATIKH ELEYROTYPIA". Prepei na pw oti gia to qema ayto exoyme asxolhqei kai sto parelqon. Qa milhsw, anaferontas sygkekrimena stoixeia. Eisagwgikws, qelw na kanw ena sxolio gia th Nea Dhmokratia, h opoia kai gia toso sobara qemata threi mia entelws aneyqynh kai epizhmia telikws stash. Fantasiwnetai adynamies ths Kybernhshs akomh kai ekei poy den yparxoyn, prokeimenoy na geyetai thn ikanopoihsh na ejapolyei to ybreologio ths enantion mas.

Kaqe pragma exei ta oria toy. Gia th Nea Dhmokratia, omws, den yparxoyn, opws apodeiknyetai, oria eqnikhs eyaisqhsias kai eyqynhs. Giati ayta ta qemata prepei na ta xeirizomaste me idiaitera lepto kai prosektiko tropo.

Prepei na sas pw oti apo tis 9 Febroyarioy toy trexontos etoys -kai sas parapempw sta praktika ths edw syzhthshs mas ekeinhs ths hmeras, poy htan Deytera- apanthsa se sxetikh erwthsh, legontas pws alhqeyei sxetiko dhmosieyma ths prohgoymenhs hmeras (8/2/98) sthn efhmerida "KAQHMERINH ths Kyriakhs", poy anaferotan se ayta ta qemata. Apantwntas tote sthn erwthsh "an yparxei eggrafo (non paper) apo thn pleyra ths Kybernhshs pros to NATO, opws egrace xqes h "KAQHMERINH" poy enhmerwnei to NATO gia th drash Toyrkwn doliofqorewn sthn Ellada", eixa dwsei thn ejhs syntomh, alla periektikh apanthsh: "Einai alhqes to dhmosieyma. Exoyme kataqesei sto NATO, mesw toy k. Sabaidh, eggrafo to opoio anatrepei tis aitiaseis ths Toyrkias. Antiqetws paraqetei stoixeia ta opoia apodeiknyoyn oti h Toyrkia akoloyqei mia stash poy yponomeyei thn ejomalynsh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn".

Eixame, dhladh, enhmerwsei to NATO me non paper gia seira qematwn ta opoia aforoyn th drash ths Toyrkias se tomeis oi opoioi einai poly sygkekrimenoi. Exw fwtotyphmeno to dhmosieyma ekeinhs ths hmeras (8/2/98) to opoio anaferetai sthn politikh kai th stash ths Toyrkias sth Dytikh Qrakh, sth stash ths sto qema twn laqrometanastwn kai twn narkwtikwn, opws epishs ginetai anafora se apostaqeropoihtikes energeies ths Toyrkias. Metajy twn energeiwn aytwn einai kai aytes poy exoyn sxesh me emprhsmoys ellhnikwn daswn h me doliofqores se baros toy ellhnikoy kratoys. Prepei na sas pw oti peran twn energeiwn se politiko kai diplwmatiko epipedo, emeis ws Ypoyrgeio Typoy apo tis 11 Febroyarioy exoyme enhmerwsei me plhrh stoixeia ola ta Grafeia Typoy toy ejwterikoy. Ta exoyme efodiasei kai me keimena sthn Agglikh kai Gallikh glwssa, prokeimenoy na enhmerwsoyn kai thn koinh gnwmh twn jenwn xwrwn gi' ayth th symperifora ths Toyrkias, opws prokyptei apo stoixeia ta opoia eixame sth diaqesh mas.

Gia to qema, loipon, ayto eixame egkairws prajei ta deonta. Gi' ayto zhtw gia allh mia fora apo thn ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh na einai perissotero ypeyqynh, otan asxoleitai me qemata aytoy toy eidoys.

Ayta apo emena. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, to Sabbatokyriako apo stelexh toy PASOK apo ton Ypoyrgo k. Papaiwannoy kai boyleytes akoysame dhlwseis sxetika me thn Olympiakh Aeroporia me diaforetiko periexomeno. Qa hqela akribws na mas peite ti qa ginei apo ayrio mexri thn Pempth to brady poy qa chfistei to nomosxedio; Ti ektima h Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Qa ginei ayto to opoio qesame eyqys ej arxhs ws kentriko stoxo mas: Na odhghsoyme se ejygiansh thn O.A., mesw -metajy allwn- ths ejoikonomhshs enos posoy 50 disekatommyriwn draxmwn ethsiws gia ta epomena liga xronia. H protash ths Kybernhshs einai plhrhs, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme ayto to stoxo. Sto plaisio toy dialogoy poy ejelissetai kai toy problhmatismoy poy anaptyssetai, dinetai h dynatothta se diaforoys paragontes (boyleytes, syndikalistes, stelexh) na proteinoyn diafores alles diadikasies h taktikoys eligmoys kai xeirismoys, oi opoioi kata th gnwmh toys mporei kai prepei na akoloyqhqoyn, gia na ftasoyme sthn epiteyjh aytoy toy stoxoy. Emeis, epanalambanw, qewroyme pws o pyrhnas twn ryqmisewn poy aforoyn kai th spondylikh sthlh gia thn ejygiansh ths O.A. prepei na parameinei o idios. O stoxos aytos einai ametakinhtos. Bebaiws, otidhpote allo einai gonimo kai beltiwnei thn prospaqeia, wste na epityxoyme ayto to stoxo, to akoyme me prosoxh. Alla, pisteyoyme h syzhthsh h opoia qa ginei sto plaisio ths diadikasias gia thn antimetwpish twn ryqmisewn aytwn, den mporei na jeperna ayto to stoxo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Xqes esteilan mia epistolh eji boyleytes toy PASOK, oi opoioi diafwnoyn se polla shmeia kai me tis ergasiakes sxeseis kai me alla. Qa ta allajete ayta; Eidika oson afora stis ergasiakes sxeseis, qa ta allajete;

REPPAS: Eipa oti para polloi boyleytes kai stelexh exoyn ekfrasei tis apoceis toys. Boyleytes kai stelexh kai toy PASOK. Ola ayta lambanontai ypoch. Sas eipa poios einai o kentrikos stoxos: Na ejygianoyme thn O.A. Symfwnoyn s' ayto kai oi eji synadelfoi oi opoioi diatypwsan to gnwsto keimeno. Pisteyoyme oti exoyn lhfqei ypoch oi anhsyxies, oi agwnies kai oi eyaisqhsies tis opoies epideiknyoyn kai apotypwnontai sth nomoqetikh prwtoboylia ths Kybernhshs. Apo kei kai pera den antilambanomai pws eseis qewreite oti synista diafwnia mia protash, mia ekfrash problhmatismoy h opoia kaqe allo para ypodhlwnei oti einai antiqetoi oi synadelfoi sthn chfish toy nomosxedioy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi eji diafwnoyn kai to lene kaqara mesa sto keimeno oti diafwnoyn m' ayth thn tropopoihsh. Kai eidika sto qema twn ergasiakwn sxesewn. Skefteste na to allajete;

REPPAS: Oi synadelfoi ekfrazoyn to diko toys problhmatismo. Lene oti prepei, metajy twn allwn, na antimetwpisoyme qemata diarqrwtikwn allagwn poy den periorizontai sto xwro twn ergasiakwn sxesewn. Ayth einai mia pagia politikh thn opoia akoloyqoyme. Epanalambanoyn to aytonohto, einai kati to opoio kanei hdh h Kybernhsh. Gi' ayto parakalw mh xrhsimopoieite ayth th lejh, h opoia den dhlwnei th stash twn synadelfwn, enocei ths chfishs toy sygkekrimenoy nomosxedioy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati ekanan tote thn epistolh;

REPPAS: Gi' ayto den qa rwthsete emena.

MIXAHL: H Kybernhsh exei kataqesei mia seira protasewn tis opoies symperielabe kai sto nomosxedio poy syzhteitai sth Boylh. Erxontai oi eji synadelfoi sas kai kataqetoyn to diko toys problhmatismo. Qelw, loipon, na sas rwthsw ean qewreite oti kai h dikh sas protash, opws diatypwnetai sto nomosxedio, einai kai h monadikh poy mporei na ejygianei thn O.A.;

REPPAS: Asfalws, h protash mas einai plhrhs. O stoxos mas einai aytos poy aparaithtws prepei na epiteyxqei, prokeimenoy na exoyme ta epiqymhta apotelesmata. Den eimaste, opws eipa kai allote, dogmatikoi kai akamptoi. Mporoyme na dexqoyme ekeines tis protaseis, oi opoies xwris na mas odhgoyn se apostash apo ton kentriko stoxo, ypodeiknyoyn dromoys kai epiloges poy mporoyn na mas feroyn pio konta s' ayto to stoxo poly pio eykola, poly pio apotelesmatika. Ayto einai kati to opoio ejetazetai, olh ayth thn periodo poy einai se ejelijh o dialogos ths dioikhshs me toys ergazomenoys. Epanalambanw omws, oti o stoxos paramenei enas kai qa prepei, an qeloyme na eimaste eilikrineis kai realistes, ola ta kommata, oloi oi politikoi kai oloi oi paragontes oi opoioi exoyn topoqethqei epi toy sygkekrimenoy qematos, na poyme eyqews oti xwris thn ejoikonomhsh enos posoy se ayto to megeqos, den einai dynaton na prokycei ejygiantiko programma sthn O.A.

MIXAHL: Qelw, loipon, na sas rwthsw epishs: Ta eji shmeia twn synadelfwn sas, opws ta diatypwnoyn oi idioi, einai plhrh kata thn ektimhsh sas; Ayto einai to prwto erwthma. To deytero, den ejoikonomoyn ta 50 dis, ta opoia lene oti prepei na ejoikonomhqoyn gia na epibiwsei h O.A.;

REPPAS: Oi synadelfoi, opws kai alloi paragontes, exoyn ekfrasei enan problhmatismo, sto plaisio toy endiaferontos toys gia th swthria ths O.A. kai ths ekfrashs ths anhsyxias toys gia ta tektainomena ston eqniko aerometaforea. Ola ayta exoyn lhfqei ypoch kai epanalambanw oti h protash ths Kybernhshs yperkalyptei olh ayth thn problhmatikh poy exei anaptyxqei gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Kai h protash poy exei kataqesei den einai tipota allo, para o topos opoy synantwntai oloi aytoi oi problhmatismoi, oles aytes oi protaseis me th basikh, kentrikh ypoxrewsh poy exoyme na odhghsoyme thn O.A. se ena kalytero mellon. Na epibiwsei, na ginei antagwnistikh kai ajiopisth.

LAKOPOYLOS: Katarxhn qa hqela mia dieykrinish: To qema ths kommatikhs peiqarxias poy eteqh apo thn Kybernhsh, apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, afora to synolo twn diatajewn toy nomosxedioy h afora tis basikes diatajeis;

REPPAS: Exei sygkekrimeno periexomeno, opws eipa kai allote, o kanonas ths kommatikhs peiqarxias. An sterhsoyme ton kanona ths kommatikhs peiqarxias apo ayto to periexomeno, tote den qa yphrxe logos na teqei o kanonas. Loipon, afora th stash twn boyleytwn kata thn chfish toy nomosxedioy sth Boylh, epeidh pisteyoyme oti h stash twn boyleytwn toy PASOK prepei na einai koinh, wste etsi na ekpemcoyme ena mhnyma toy endiaferontos mas kai ths apofasistikothtas mas na yperaspistoyme to ejygiantiko programma gia th swthria ths O.A. Afora thn chfish toy nomosxedioy sto synolo toy.

LAKOPOYLOS: Ena akomh erwthma: Akoyw ton Ypoyrgo Metaforwn tis teleytaies hmeres na epanalambanei me kapoia spoydh, qa elega, oti an den ejygianqei h etairia, qa kleisei. Etsi to leei, kathgorhmatika. Qelw na sas rwthsw, loipon, ean ayto einai mia ektimhsh proswpikh toy k. Mantelh kai th leei h an prokeitai gia apofash ths Kybernhshs. Kai an yparxei tetoia apofash, poio einai to xronodiagramma, dhladh, mexri pote, an den ejygianqei;

REPPAS: Emeis pisteyoyme oti h O.A., epeidh akribws exoyme th bebaiothta oti einai swsto to programma ejygianshs poy prowqoyme, den qa xreiastei na kleisei, na pacei na leitoyrgei, oyte gia mia wra estw. Gnwrizete oti o nomos 2271/1994 me ton opoio problecame to prwto programma ejygianshs, sto prwto arqro sthn paragrafo 10, metajy allwn leei pws an mexri teloys '97 den epityxei to programma ejygianshs kai h O.A. odhgeitai se kleisimo, to dhmosio nomimopoieitai na apathsei apo thn O.A. ola ekeina ta oikonomika posa ta opoia ths xarise. To dhmosio anti na meinei apaqes kai siwphro apenanti sto drama ths O.A., erxetai kai pali, analambanei mia prwtoboylia gia th swthria ths O.A., me sygkekrimeno politiko sxedio. Sto shmeio ayto eimaste akribws twra. Ayto epiqymoyme na kanoyme. Anti na afhsoyme, adiaforwntas gia thn tyxh ths, thn O.A. kaqe mera na apajiwnetai, na syrriknwnetai kai telikws, antikeimenika na odhghqei sto kleisimo, parembainoyme kai me sygkekrimenh protash pisteyoyme oti qa epityxoyme thn anakamch ths epixeirhshs. Ayto qa kanoyme. Den prokeitai na kleisei h O.A., giati pisteyoyme oti h protash mas einai plhrhs kai einai apotelesmatikh gia na antimetwpisoyme to sygkekrimeno problhma.

KIAOS: Prwta mia dieykrinish: Otan lete to Dhmosio kai h Olympiakh , genikh syneleysh ths Olympiakhs , den einai o Ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn;

REPPAS : Asfalws, alla h Olympiakh exei kai th dioikhsh ths. Kai gnwrizete oti oles oi epixeirhseis toy Dhmosioy exoyn tis dioikhseis toys poy exoyn ena eyrytato plaisio armodiothtwn, entos toy opoioy mporoyn na kinhqoyn. Alliws den qa eixe nohma na orizoyme dioikhseis stis dhmosies epixeirhseis. Kai gnwrizete poly kala oti oi dioikhseis stis dhmosies epixeirhseis topoqetoyntai, idiws oi Proedroi kai oi Dieyqynontes Symboyloi, me diadikasies tetoies oi opoies den exoyn kamia sxesh me tis diadikasies poy akoloyqoyntan sto parelqon, otan epilegontan monon kommatika stelexh, kaqe morfhs kai kathgorias, prokeimenoy na stelexwqoyn aytes oi qeseis.

KIAOS: En pash periptwsei, o diaxwrismos poy kanete einai diadikastikos kai oxi oysiastikos.

REPPAS: Den qa elega oti einai diadikastikos. Gnwrizete oti hdh o dialogos einai se ejelijh. O dialogos aytos ginetai metajy ths dioikhshs kai twn ergazomenwn. Exei ena plaisio aytonomias, to opoio ajiopoiei, h kaqe dioikhsh kai h sygkekrimenh sthn O.A.

KIAOS: Mia deyterh erwthsh : Ston kanona ths kommatikhs peiqarxias poy anaferqhkate prohgoymenws, isxyei oti opoios den chfisei, qetei eayton ektos kommatos;

REPPAS: Giati aythn thn wra qelete na kanoyme mia syzhthsh h opoia den exei antikrisma pragmatikothtas; Ayto einai kati to opoio qa antimetwpisqei otan exoyme pia sygkekrimena qemata enanti twn opoiwn prepei na paroyme qesh. O kanonas ths kommatikhs peiqarxias einai aytonohto ti periexei. Den xreiazetai na filologoyme peri toy ti einai kommatikh peiqarxia.

KIAOS: Mporeite na moy peite eseis ayto poy sas rwtw, epeidh twra qelw egw, prin apo thn chfoforia, na gnwrizw, ean kapoios boyleyths den chfisei , qetei eayton ektos kommatos;

REPPAS: Apanthsa kat' epanalhch kai eipa oti otan tiqetai kommatikh peiqarxia, logiko einai na anamenei kapoios oti einai aparaithth h thrhsh ths kommatikhs peiqarxias, h de parabiash ths den einai dynato na mhn akoloyqeitai apo sygkekrimenes apofaseis twn armodiwn organwn.

FILHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h ypobolh ek meroys boyleytwn ths sympoliteysews tropologiwn poy den ginontai dektes apo thn Kybernhsh, alla h epimonh toys na ginei onomastikh chfoforia gia paradeigma, synista parabiash ths kommatikhs peiqarxias;

REPPAS: Ayto to opoio mas endiaferei einai na chfisqei to nomosxedio kaqws qa oloklhrwnetai h synedriash thn erxomenh Pempth, prokeimenoy to syntomotero dynato na ginei nomos toy kratoys kai na teqei se efarmogh. An, loipon, enas nomos toy kratoys teqei se efarmogh, san ayton, me opoies tropopoihseis, symplhrwseis h beltiwseis mporei na ginoyn, pisteyoyme oti exoyme kanei to prwto megalo bhma gia th swthria ths O.A. Ayto epidiwkoyme. To pws qa ejelixqei h syzhthsh sth Boylh, antilambanesqe oti einai qema poy afora ton Kanonismo ths Boylhs, thn eyqynh twn boyleytwn kai to pws ekeinoi antilambanontai th symmetoxh toys sthn koinoboyleytikh diadikasia. Ayto to opoio exei endiaferon kai se ayto menoyme, einai na petyxoyme to stoxo na chfisqei o nomos meqayrio, wste to syntomotero na teqei se efarmogh.

FILHS: Me syxnothta peripoy dyomisi mhnwn, to teleytaio diasthma, h Kybernhsh aisqanetai thn anagkh, gia diaforoys logoys, na qesei qema kommatikhs peiqarxias...

REPPAS: Den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia ayto poy lete. Kai parakalw na moy anaferete ta prohgoymena paradeigmata sta opoia anaferesqe.

FILHS: Kapodistrias, Proypologismos, Forologiko Nomosxedio kai twra ayto.

REPPAS: Ston Proypologismo den eixe teqei tetoio qema, gnwrizete poly kala...

FILHS: Eixe eipwqei oti o proypologismos einai qema chfoy empistosynhs sthn Kybernhsh.

REPPAS: Oson afora de, to nomo gia th synenwsh Dhmwn kai Koinothtwn, to "sxedio Kapodistrias" ...

FILHS: Kai oi treis poy den chfisan , diegrafhsan. Ara, swsta to eipa, tiqetai qema kommatikhs peiqarxias kaqe treis mhnes...

REPPAS: Gnwrizete, prwton, oti oson afora ton Proypologismo, den eixe teqei tetoio qema, alla einai aytonohto- kai den diafwnei kaneis- oti h chfish toy isodynamei me chfo empistosynhs pros thn Kybernhsh. Einai kati to opoio den einai dynaton na ejetastei me allo prisma, doqentos oti h katachfish toy Proypologismoy shmainei adynamia ths Kybernhshs na askhsei oikonomikh politikh to epomeno etos. Oson afora th synenwsh Dhmwn kai Koinothtwn, to "sxedio Kapodistrias", gnwrizete oti h desmeysh ayth teqhke gia orismenes diatajeis toy nomosxedioy poy exoyn sxesh me th xwrotajia, to sxediasmo twn newn Dhmwn, kai oxi me tis alles ryqmiseis, oi opoies htan kai oi perissoteres. Antilambaneste oti oi logoi ths desmeyshs ekeinhs htan apolyta synarthmenoi me thn epidiwjh apofyghs toy fainomenoy, na proballei o kaqenas gia logoys pelateiakoys h topikistikoy endiaferontos, enallaktikes protaseis me apotelesma h syzhthsh na odhgeito se adiejodo, th stigmh poy ola ayta ta qemata, me diadikasies, qa elega, epipones kai makroxrones eixan antimetwpisqei me toys boyleytes kai ta stelexh toy PASOK sto plaisio twn eswterikwn diadikasiwn toy Kinhmatos. Ara, h protash h opoia katateqhke sth Boylh, oson afora th xwrotajia gia to sxediasmo twn newn Dhmwn, htan protash poy aphxoyse tis apoceis olwn. Oloi, dhladh, oi problhmatismoi eixan lhfqei ypoch.

FILHS: Den moy apanthsate. Sas erwthsa kai epibebaiwsate...

REPPAS: Apanthsa.

FILHS: Epibebaiwsate to pragmatologiko stoixeio. Tesseris fores exei qesei h Kybernhsh, etsi h alliws, qema kommatikhs peiqarxias s toys boyleytes toy PASOK. Erwtw : Einai dynaton, politika, h Kybernhsh na xrhsimopoiei ton kanona ths kommatikhs peiqarxias, kaqe 2,5 mhnes, gia na pernaei ta nomosxedia ths;

REPPAS: Epeidh milhsate gia to pragmatologiko, qa sas pw oti symfwnw apolytws, etsi opws qetete to qema, an symfwneite kai eseis oti yparxei kai to politiko. Kai den einai qema epibolhs kommatikhs peiqarxias, h politikh kai hqikh eyqynh poy exei o boyleyths poy anhkei se ena komma, ypo th shmaia toy opoioy exei eklegei me thn chfo toy ellhnikoy laoy, na sthrizei sth Boylh ta nomosxedia kai tis prwtoboylies ths Kybernhshs poy proerxetai apo to idio ayto komma. Ayth einai mia diadikasia, h opoia pagiws akoloyqeitai, xwris na shmainei oti katalyetai h dynatothta toy boyleyth na ekfrazetai kata syneidhsh kai na chfizei opws ekeinos nomizei oti prepei na chfizei. Alla, mhn kanete ayth th sygkrish, giati etsi dinete thn entypwsh oti yparxei mia apostash metajy Kybernhsh kai Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas kai mono dia aytoy toy tropoy mporei na ejasfalizetai h yposthrijh twn boyleytwn sta nomosxedia ths Kybernhshs. Kaqe allo. Enw gnwrizete para poly kala oti oi boyleytes enos kommatos, bebaiws, syzhtoyn sto plaisio twn eswterikwn diadikasiwn, me toys armodioys paragontes ta qemata poy kaqe fora syzhtoyntai sth Boylh, alla prosferoyn th sthrijh toys, gia na epibebaiwnetai h koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia sthn opoia sthrizetai h ekastote Kybernhsh.

FILHS: Qa epimeinw pragmatologika se ena allo qema. H Kybernhsh twra zhtei apo toys boyleytes, me kommatikh peiqarxia, na chfisoyn ena nomosxedio. Wstoso yparxei mia dhlwsh toy k. Papantwnioy, o opoios ekfrazei thn oikonomikh politikh ths Kybernhshs, poy leei oti qa idiwtikopoihqoyn orismenes DEKO. Sto programma ths Kybernhshs -me to opoio chfisthke apo ton ellhniko lao kai ejeleghsan oi boyleytes- den yparxei stoixeio idiwtikopoihshs anw toy 51% orismenwn DEKO, mh strathgikhs shmasias. Kai erwtw: H Kybernhsh aisqanetai thn anagkh, me kapoio tropo, na zhthsei mia politikh nomimopoihsh apo ta organa toy kybernwntos kommatos , apo thn Koinoboyleytikh Omada, apo thn Kentrikh Epitroph, ayths ths neas politikhs poy qelei na perasei me kommatikh peiqarxia;

REPPAS: Th nomimopoihsh ayth oxi mono thn epizhtoyme, alla kai thn ejasfalizoyme.

FILHS: Pws;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh thn ejasfalizei, giati opws eipa prin apantwntas se alles erwthseis, yparxei dialogos sto plaisio twn eswterikwn diadikasiwn toy PASOK, sto plaisio ths K.O., poy dinei th dynatothta na ekfrazontai oles oi apoceis. Oi apoceis aytes synektimwntai , staqmizontai kai h protash thn opoia kataqetei h Kybernhsh aphxei olo ayto ton ploysio problhmatismo, o opoios paratiqetai. Ola ayta exoyn lhfqei ypoch, ginontai, apoteloyn kaqestws, sto plaisio twn dhmokratikwn diadikasiwn me tis opoies leitoyrgei kai h Kybernhsh kai h K.O. toy PASOK.

FILHS: Pote syzhthse h K.O. toy PASOK kai pote h K.E. toy PASOK to qema ths idiwtikopoihshs twn DEKO anw toy 51%;

REPPAS: H K.O. toy PASOK syzhthse to qema ths Olympiakhs sto plaisio enos dieyrymenoy K.T.E. Ergasias, gia ta qemata ayta, liges hmeres prin. Qa to syzhthsei aytes tis hmeres kai pali, me th symmetoxh olwn twn boyleytwn poy endiaferontai na laboyn meros se ayth th diadikasia.

FILHS: Prokeitai na synedriasei syntomws h K.O. toy PASOK;

REPPAS: Bebaiws, qa synedriasei kai pali h K.O. toy PASOK , h opoia synedriazei toso taktika, oso pote sto parelqon. Taktikotera isws apo thn K.O. opoioydhpote alloy kommatos, para to oti eimaste kybernhtiko komma gegonos poy synepagetai mia epibarynsh - milw gia to organwtiko kai texniko meros toy programmatos toy Proedroy- h opoia qa mporoyse na pei kapoios oti dikaiologei mia pio araih synedriash twn organwn. Kai, omws, blepete oti ta organa synedriazoyn taktika, syxna, pykna.

ELENOPOYLOS: Sto parelqon h Kybernhsh eixe xarakthrisei thn politikh ths ws monodromo. Shmera h idia h Kybernhsh sto dikaiologhtiko plaisio ths kommatikhs peiqarxias anaferei oti h eniaia stash ekpempei ena mhnyma swthrias ths Olympiakhs. Rwtw, loipon, poia logikh leei oti se ena koinoboyleytiko kaqestws h mia protash, anejarthtws an o idios pisteyei oti einai plhrhs, mporei na eggyhqei ayto to apotelesma. Den to katanow ayto.

REPPAS: Yparxoyn kapoioi kanones basei twn opoiwn leitoyrgei to politeyma mas. Kai bebaiws, me bash aytoys toys kanones, synedriazei h Boylh kai pairnei tis apofaseis ths. Gnwrizete para poly kala oti mporoyme na poyme oti oi apofaseis poy lambanei h pleiochfia ths Boylhs, einai kata tekmhrio oi orqes apofaseis, wste na antimetwpistoyn ta problhmata ths xwras kai toy laoy. Ayto ginetai kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh.

SOYGLERHS: Diabazw apo to plhres keimeno thn prwth paragrafo ths epistolhs twn eji boyleytwn kai blepw edw oti to qema dhmioyrghqhke me th nomoqetikh parembash sto ergasiako kaqestws sthn Olympiakh Aeroporia poy thn odhgei me maqhmatikh akribeia sth xreokopia kai toys ergazomenoys sthn anergia. S' ayth thn paragrafo mporeite na moy peite k. Ypoyrge, exoyn dikio oi boyleytes, dhladh, oti kai na kanei apo edw kai pera h Kybernhsh meta apo th nomoqetikh ayth parembash, pragmati h O.A. odhgeitai se xreokopia;

REPPAS: An pisteyoyn oti me to nomosxedio odhgeitai se xreokopia h O.A. kai kleinei, epeidh ayto den to epiqymoyn, profanws odhgoyntai se katachfish ths protashs ths Kybernhshs. Den nomizw, omws, na symbei ayto. Giati den pisteyw oti h ermhneia h opoia dinete eseis einai ermhneia h opoia ekfrazei kai toys ypografontes ayto to keimeno. Eipa, apantwntas prin, oti h Kybernhsh qa mporoyse na odhghsei se kleisimo thn O.A. me thn adiaforia kai th siwph ths apenanti sto drama ths O.A. To problepei o nomos poy chfisthke to 1994. Anti gi' ayto, omws, kai gia na mhn xaqoyn ta ekatontades disekatommyria, ta opoia exoyn dapanhqei, h Kybernhsh analambanei mia nea prwtoboylia gia thn ejygiansh ths O.A. kai kalei oloys na syneisferoyn me tis dikes toys apoceis gia na antimetwpisoyme epiteloys rizika kai apotelesmatika ayto to qema. Ayto kanoyme sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Kai nomizw oti h stash twn boyleytwn toy PASOK qa einai tetoia poy qa deixnei oti endiaferontai oloi to idio, kaneis perissotero se sxesh me kapoioys alloys poy dhqen endiaferontai ligotero, gia th swthria ths O.A. kai gia th diasfalish twn qesewn ergasias twn ergazomenwn sthn O.A. Giati to kleisimo ths etairias qa odhghsei sthn anergia toys ergazomenoys s' ayth shmera. Kai kati tetoio den to epiqymei h Kybernhsh. Apodeijh toy oti den to epiqymoyme, einai oti analambanoyme ayth thn prwtoboylia.

LAKOPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinish k. Ypoyrge. Mporeite na mas peite gia poio logo anaferqhkate kata ton tropo poy anaferqhkate sth shmaia me thn opoia ejeleghsan oi boyleytes toy PASOK, otan mallon se alles periptwseis opws toy k. Karakwsta toy DHKKI gia paradeigma, den eida na sas endiaferei kai para poly h shmaia me thn opoia eixe eklegei boyleyths.

REPPAS: Einai qema eyqynhs toy kaqe boyleyth. Toys boyleytes toys krinoyn oi Ellhnes polites, toys chfizoyn, toys epilegoyn gia na eiselqoyn sth Boylh kai thn epilogh poy kanoyn oi boyleytes kaqe mera gia ta mikra kai ta megala qemata kata th diarkeia ths qhteias toys, pali o ellhnikos laos einai aytos poy qa krinei kai qa ekdwsei thn telesidikh apofash toy otan erqei h wra twn eklogwn.

LAKOPOYLOS: H Kybernhsh pisteyei oti enas boyleyths poy eklegetai me th shmaia enos kommatos prepei na to akoloyqei mexri teloys h den dikaioytai na diaforopoieitai apo thn politikh ths kybernhsews poy sthrizei ayto to komma. Ayto ennoeite;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh oyte eixe, oyte exei ayth th filodojia na ypokatasthsei ton idio to lao, toys idioys toys polites. Oi Ellhnes polites krinoyn, h Kybernhsh exei tis apoceis ths. Kai oi apoceis aytes ekfrazontai me thn politikh thn opoia epilegei kai akoloyqei. Einai allo to ena kai allo to allo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, prohgoymenws milhsate gia kommatikes topoqethseis palia stis DEKO. Shmera mporeite na moy peite o k. Tsakiridhs se poio xwro anhkei; O k. Mpirdimirhs; Stis DEKO, stis trapezes, se poioys xwroys anhkoyn gia na ginoyn proedroi;

REPPAS: H politikh topoqethsh, h kommatikh taytothta twn stelexwn poy epilegontai den einai krithrio to opoio prosmetratai, prokeimenoy na ginei h opoia epilogh. Allwste, mhn jexnate oti epeleghsan paragontes poy den anhkoyn sto PASOK ki ayto apotelese aitia polemoy enantion toy PASOK. To eidame ki ayto. Na kathgoreitai to PASOK giati epeleje, me diadikasies antikeimenikes kai diafaneis, stelexh ta opoia h Epitroph ths Boylhs qewrhse oti einai ajiologa, prokeimenoy na stelexwsei tetoies ychlhs shmasias qeseis sto Dhmosio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Se poies mporeite na mas peite ektos apo ton k. Gkratsia, o opoios prosxwrhse;

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, ayto einai anepitrepto na to kanoyme, giati tote qa einai san na arnoymaste ayth thn arxh gia thn opoia milhsa prin. Na exoyme peripoy ypoch mas ta politika fronhmata h thn kommatikh taytothta twn stelexwn, wste na mporei kapoios kakopistos na pei oti ayta einai ta stoixeia ekeina poy apotelesan kai ta krithria gia thn epilogh twn proswpwn. Einai dynaton na syzhtoyme gia ta stelexh twn Dhmosiwn Epixeirhsewn se synarthsh me thn kommatikh taytothta toys; Den einai dynaton. Kai den einai swsto na ginetai ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Peste moy enan poy na mhn einai kybernhtikos.

REPPAS: Yparxoyn polloi oi opoioi den anhkoyn h den chfizoyn to Kinhma mas. Exoyn epilegei logw ths ajiosynhs toys...

FILHS: Poy to jerete ayto;

REPPAS: To gnwrizw kyrie Filh, gia enan poly aplo logo. Giati exoyn bgei dhmosiws polloi kai exoyn parei qesh. Safws kai dhmosiws. Kai otan lew oti den prepei emeis na synartoyme thn epilogh toys me thn kommatikh, politikh taytothta thn opoia exoyn, ayto akribws ennow.

FILHS: To qymaste omws ti chfizoyn.

REPPAS: Qymamai, giati gnwrizw oti gia tis epiloges mas oydepote exei ginei ayto to stoixeio to basiko krithrio. Ektos ean eseis qewreite pws osoi epeleghsan me antikeimenika krithria kai diadikasies anhkoyn oloi sto PASOK. Mas dinete, dhladh, ayth thn ikanopoihsh oti ola ta ajiologa stelexh s' ayth thn koinwnia anhkoyn sto PASOK. Egw, den exw ayth thn apoch, th monokommatikh. Pisteyw oti yparxoyn ajiologa stelexh kai s' alla kommata. Pisteyw oti m' aytes tis antikeimenikes diadikasies epomeno kai fysiko einai na anadeixqoyn kai alla stelexh s' aytes tis qeseis.

KANELLAKHS: Oi protaseis twn eji boyleytwn se poia shmeia diaferoyn apo to nomosxedio ths Olympiakhs;

REPPAS: Gi' ayto na rwthsete toys eji boyleytes. Egw pisteyw oti h protash toys yperkalyptetai apo thn prwtoboylia poy exei analabei h Kybernhsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ws gnwsto brisketai edw kai merikes hmeres sthn Kypro o k. Xolmproyk, o opoios eixe synanthseis toso me ton Proedro Klhridh, oso kai me ton k. Ntenktas. O k. Xolmproyk meta ekane mia dhlwsh h opoia dhmioyrghse sygxysh sthn Kypro kai qa hqela na thn ermhneysete ki eseis. Ekane ena diaxwrismo ths Kyproy me thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia, oson afora to qema ths entajhs ths Kyproy sthn E.E.

REPPAS: Emeis epiqymoyme, gia na lyqei to kypriako qema, na symbaloyn s' ayth thn kateyqynsh kai h E.E. kai oi Hnwmenes Politeies kai opoioi alloi paragontes ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas pisteyoyn oti mporoyn na bohqhsoyn. To plaisio entos toy opoioy prepei na kinhqoyn aytes oi prospaqeies einai ayto poy exei apofasistei apo ton O.H.E. Den einai dynato na dhmioyrghqei ena neo plaisio syzhthsewn h prospaqeiwn gia thn anazhthsh lyshs. O k. Xolmproyk pisteyw oti qa diapistwse thn adiallajia toy k. Ntenktas. Eipe o idios se dhlwseis toy oti den prokeitai pote na apodexqei th dixotomhsh ths Kyproy kai den prokeitai na anagnwrisei to kaqestws toy Ntenktas. Afoy akribws, ayta ta dyo apoteloyn gia ekeinon kentrika, shmantika shmeia paradoxwn, qa prepei na katanohsei oti den dynaton h eleyqerh Kypros na paramenei esaei omhros kai aixmalwtos ths Toyrkias h enos paranomoy kaqestwtos h ths dixotomhshs ths Nhsoy, pragma to opoio kai o idios den dexetai san orqo kai na symbalei kai o idios, wste to syntomotero dynato oi diadikasies gia thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E. na oloklhrwqoyn. An ayto den einai dynato, den shmainei oti den qa entaxqei h eleyqerh Kypros sthn E.E. Exoyme milhsei kat' epanalhch gi' ayto. Oi Toyrkokyprioi kaloyntai, ekfrazontas ekeinh thn pleyra, na laboyn meros s' aytes tis diadikasies giati ki ekeinoi einai kommati ths Kyproy. Emeis epiqymoyme oloklhrh h Kypros na entaxqei, alla h epiqymia mas ayth den shmainei oti oso den ginetai dynath h entajh oloklhrhs ths Kyproy, prepei na paramenei makria apo thn E.E. h Kypros, h Kypriakh Dhmokratia, ypo ton Proedro Klhridh. Ayto einai kati adianohto kai tetoioy eidoys dhlwseis prosferoyn arnhtikh yphresia, giati dinoyn th dynatothta ston k. Ntenktas kai stoys alloys na fantazontai oti mporoyn na parakwlyoyn aytes tis diadikasies kai na kratoyn se aixmalwsia thn Kypro.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, apo oti blepoyme o k. Xolmproyk yphrje safhs kai sto qema twn pyraylwn S-300, opoy eipe oti den prepei na erqoyn kai na egkatastaqoyn sthn Kypro. Me ayth th dhlwsh, den katalaba, poion ejyphretei, thn apo dw pleyra h thn apo kei pleyra;

REPPAS: Oloi oi paragontes lene tis apoceis toys. O k. Xolmproyk leei tis dikes toy apoceis. Den einai aparaithto na symfwnoyme panta. Emeis exoyme pei poios einai o logos gia ton opoio h epilogh ths egkatastashs twn S-300 exei ginei. Prepei na antimetwpistei o kindynos se baros ths Kyproy apo thn Toyrkia. An mporei o k. Xolmproyk na proteinei kai na symbalei sthn antimetwpish aytoy toy kindynoy di' allhs odoy, qa eimaste eytyxeis na to akoysoyme. Den yparxei, omws, mia tetoia protash h toylaxiston an yparxoyn idees, den eidame sthn prajh na efarmozontai oi idees aytes, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistei o kindynos kai h epiboylh apo ekeinh thn pleyra.

FASOYLAS: Sto aerodromio ths Larnakas, ligo prin anaxwrhsei apo thn Kypro, xarakthrise qeatro tis prospaqeies gia lysh toy Kypriakoy. Mhpws o k. Xolmproyk telika den apodidei swsta to rolo toy.

REPPAS: O k. Xolmproyk einai enas ej aytwn poy exei dhlwsei oti endiaferetai na symbalei sth lysh toy Kypriakoy problhmatos.

Eyxaristw poly.


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