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Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-10-20

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 20 Noembrioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Tiqetai qema kommatikhs peiqarxias sth Boylh, to apogeyma, gia thn epimaxh diatajh poy exei prokalesei antiparaqesh;

REPPAS: Moy dinete thn eykairia na dieykrinisw kai na aposafhnisw oti to arqro to opoio syzhteitai sth Boylh den exei opoiadhpote sxesh me th qespish toy sygkekrimenoy hlektronikoy paixnidioy me to onoma "binteolotto". Oson afora to "binteolotto" einai se ejelijh o sxetikos diagwnismos. Exei qespistei ayto to hlektroniko paixnidi me prohgoymenoys nomoys. O pio prosfatos einai o N. 2725/1999, o opoios chfisthke ton prohgoymeno Ioynio sto tmhma qerinwn diakopwn ths Boylhs. Ara, den exei sxesh h syzhthsh gia to sygkekrimeno nomosxedio kai pio eidika gia to sygkekrimeno arqro me otidhpote afora to "binteolotto". Aplws, me aformh ayth th syzhthsh, o k. Karamanlhs prepei na mas pei giati kai apo poioys parakinoymenos, anedeije ena qema, poy den perilambanetai sto arqro poy apasxolei th Boylh, sto plaisio syzhthshs aytoy toy nomosxedioy. Ayth einai h safhs qesh. Apo kei kai pera oi boyleytes qa klhqoyn na chfisoyn gia to sygkekrimeno arqro toy sygkekrimenoy nomosxedioy, shmera to apogeyma. Den ginetai chfoforia epi toy alloy qematos, to opoio -epanalambanw- sthrizetai se nomo o opoios exei chfistei. Epeidh ginetai ayto to laqos, ekrina skopimo na kanw gia mia akomh fora ayth th dieykrinish.

MIXAHL: Egw den rwthsa ayto...

REPPAS: Apanthsa poly sygkekrimena. Oi boyleytes qa chfisoyn gia to sygkekrimeno arqro, epi seira arqrwn -epeidh gnwrizw oti ta arqra syzhtoyntai kata omades kai se ayto to nomosxedio- kai qa chfisoyn kata th dikh toys krish.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Exei tropopoihqei ayto to arqro;

REPPAS: To arqro qa syzhthqei kai qa chfistei to apogeyma sth Boylh. Gnwrizete poly kala, poio einai to periexomeno toy. Egw den dikaioymai na anakoinwsw otidhpote. Ayto einai qema twn armodiwn ypoyrgwn kai toy Proedroy ths Boylhs, o opoios proedreyei twn diadikasiwn toy Swmatos.

MIXAHL: Symplhrwmatikh erwthsh sthn prohgoymenh toy k. Xasapopoyloy. Ola ta dhmosieymata shmera lene oti h kybernhsh ekane mia mikrh tropopoihsh ths diatajhs kai gi ayto, dia ths apaleicews kapoias frashs, exei pio safes periexomeno. Kai pio sygkekrimena. Ta epibebaiwnete ayta ta dhmosieymata h ta diaceydete;

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola to qema ayto qa antimetwpistei, efoson yparxei tetoio qema, dia ths koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias apo toys armodioys ypoyrgoys kai ton proedreyonta toy Swmatos. Oyden allo sxolio ayth thn wra.

LAKOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa einai to apogeyma sth Boylh;

REPPAS: Qa einai to apogeyma sth Boylh sto plaisio ths "wras toy Prwqypoyrgoy", prokeimenoy na apanthsei se sxetikh erwthsh gia ta apotelesmata ths prosfaths Ektakths Synodoy Koryfhs sto Tampere.

SOYGLERHS: Prin apo thn chfoforia qa prohghqoyn omilies twn politikwn arxhgwn;

REPPAS: Hdh eimaste sth diadikasia ths chfoforias, opws gnwrizete. Otan h Boylh brisketai se diadikasia chfoforias, den diejagetai opoiadhpote syzhthsh. Arxizei amesws h chfoforia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto to arqro poy qa chfistei to apogeyma, ti problepei;

REPPAS: An qelete na sas to dianeimw. Einai sth diaqesh sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi na to dianeimete. Na mas peite ti problepei.

REPPAS: Qelete na sas to diabasw; Ma, einai toso dyskolo, toses hmeres, ena toso megalhs shmasias qema, k. Stamatopoyle, opws kapoioi isxyrizontai, na mhn sas exei odhghsei, esas ena toso kalo dhmosiografo, na anazhthsete to arqro, na to melethsete, prokeimenoy na gnwrizete eseis o idios, bgazontas monos sas ta symperasmata sas, an pragmatika einai etsi opws isxyrizetai h N. D. h mhpws den exei dikio;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai eseis shmera anakalycate oti ayto to arqro den exei sxesh me toys koyloxerhdes;

REPPAS: Apo thn prwth stigmh to eipa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi.

REPPAS: Kanete terastio laqos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Shmera bgainete kai to lete kaqara.

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, kanete terastio laqos. Kai me thn eykairia ayth, gia na deite se ti ejaxreiwsh odhgoymaste, qa sas epishmanw kati, gia to opoio exw proswpikh empeiria. Se thleoptiko staqmo, sto plaisio mias syzhthshs, o organwths ths syzhthshs, o opoios synhqizei kata th diarkeia toy programmatos toy na dienergei kai enos eidoys dhmoskophsh -den prokeitai peri aytoy, kat oikonomia xrhsimopoiw ayth th lejh- me thlefwnikes klhseis, kaloyse toys thleqeates na apanthsoyn an epiqymoyn h oxi o Proedros ths Dhmokratias na ypogracei, na egkrinei to nomo, o opoios qespizei to "binteolotto". Agnooysan, profanws, oloi -kai o dhmosiografos poy dihyqyne th syzhthsh kai opoioi elaban meros sth syzhthsh, alla kai oi thleqeates, oi opoioi logiko einai na mh gnwrizoyn leptomereies- oti den yfistatai tetoio qema. O nomos exei chfistei, exei dhmosieytei sthn Efhmerida ths Kybernhshs kai exei teqei se isxy. O diagwnismos einai se ejelijh. Ayto to anaferw ws ena mikro paradeigma -kai an qelete mporw na anaferw kai alla- gia to poso megalh sygxysh exei proklhqei gyrw ap ayto to qema. Kai exei eyqynh h N. D., h opoia sthn arxh, dia toy arxhgoy ths, milhse gia "mega oikonomiko skandalo", gia "diatrhth symbash". Kai prokaloyme gia mia akoma fora ton k. Karamanlh na mas paroysiasei ayth th symbash, sthn opoia anaferetai. Poia einai ayth h symbash; Den exei synafqei opoiadhpote symbash, afoy aplws h diakhryjh exei dhmosieytei kai den exei lhjei kan h proqesmia, entos ths opoias oi endiaferomenoi qa prepei na kataqesoyn to fakelo ths ypochfiothtas toys. Enw sthn arxh h syzhthsh ginotan peri "diatrhths symbashs" kai "skandaloy", twra blepw, eysxhmws, h N. D. prospaqei na metaqesei se ena allo pedio th sxetikh syzhthsh, anagontas to qema kyriws ws pros thn arnhtikh epidrash poy qa exei sthn hqikopaidagwgikh diaplash twn Ellhnwn politwn. "Thn epiase o ponos" th N. D., h opoia, ypenqymizw, oti me apofash ths ton Ianoyario toy 1993 eixe metatajei hlektronika mhxanhmata, ta gnwsta, me to onoma real magic, sta texnika paixnidia kai h anomia poy en pollois shmera yparxei, ofeiletai akribws se ekeinh thn apofash, h opoia bebaiws anaklhqhke argotera apo thn kybernhsh toy PASOK, alla pantote paremenan ta problhmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati to tropopoihsate ayto to arqro shmera;

REPPAS: Ola ayta qa antimetwpistoyn sto plaisio ths koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias. Oson afora to "binteolotto", einai paixnidi to opoio exei qespistei, me sygkekrimeno nomo, ton 2725/1999. Den exei opoiadhpote sxesh to olympiako "binteolotto" me to sygkekrimeno nomosxedio kai to arqro 15 toy nomosxedioy aytoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati to allajate to arqro 15;

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, mhn protrexete.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Bgainoyn oi koyloxerhdes apo mesa;

REPPAS: Mhn protrexete. Epiteloys, prepei na epilejete to pedio sto opoio qelete na krinete kai na katakrinete -to dikaioyste, alla me stoixeia pantote- thn kybernhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Rwtaw...

REPPAS: Milame gia to olympiako "binteolotto". Qelete na pame se allo qema; Na to kanoyme. Alla, na peite eyqews oti, oson afora to olympiako "binteolotto", pragmati den prokyptei otidhpote apo ola ekeina ta stoixeia, ta opoia h N. D. xrhsimopoihse, prokeimenoy na askhsei ayth thn kritikh kata ths kybernhshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati to tropopoihsate to arqro, qa moy peite;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se erwthseis toy k. Xasapopoyloy kai toy k. Mixahl epi toy qematos aytoy. H Boylh exei tis dikes ths diadikasies, oi opoies, parakalw, na ginoyn sebastes. Einai Swma kyriarxo. Den einai dynaton emeis, edw, na anakoinwnoyme otidhpote afora apofaseis, tis opoies h idia h Boylh dikaioytai na labei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi, k. Ypoyrge, den einai etsi. H kybernhsh to tropopoihse...

REPPAS: Ola ayta qa antimetwpistoyn sto plaisio ths koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias. Mhn protrexete, giati syxna polloi biazontai kai otan apodeiknyetai oti exoyn kanei kapoio laqos, asfalws den to anagnwrizoyn kai den to omologoyn. Oi synepeies, omws, toy laqoys toys exoyn pantote plhrwqei apo ekeinoys oi opoioi den exoyn kamia sxesh, kamia eyqynh gia to laqos poy alloi kanoyn. As apofygoyme, sas parakalw, ayth th syzhthsh.

FILHS: Kat` arxhn mia ekkremothta poy yparxei sth syzhthsh. Eixan pei orismenoi synadelfoi, na diabasete to arqro, profanws dioti yparxei h plhroforia oti qa einai tropopoihmeno. Yparxei anagkh na mas to diabasete, gi ayto to logo;

REPPAS: To arqro einai sth diaqesh sas. Mporeite na to anazhthsete mesw twn koinoboyleytikwn syntaktwn. To keimeno toy sygkekrimenoy nomoy einai ayto to opoio gnwrizete.

FILHS: O Prwqypoyrgos xqes anhggeile oti qa doqei prim paragwgikothtas stoys iereis, stoys arximandrites, stoys mhtropolites, sth sympaqh tajh twn klhrikwn. Proxqes, epishs, doqhkan analoga prim sth sympaqh tajh twn ajiwmatikwn twn Enoplwn Dynamewn kai twn Swmatwn Asfaleias. Xqes, malista, o k. Xrysoxoidhs edwse kai parapanw ayjhseis sta epidomata twn ajiwmatikwn twn Swmatwn Asfaleias, ths Astynomias Polewn. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean paristameqa martyres mias epixeirhshs entajhs ths Ekklhsias stis eklogikes skopimothtes ths kybernhshs. Kai to rwtw ayto, dioti ki apo thn pleyra toy o k. Karamanlhs -aplws to anaferw ws omologo fainomeno- epixeirhse, xqes, na entajei thn Ekklhsia sth stayroforia enantion twn koyloxerhdwn. H erwthsh einai eyqeia, loipon: Giati ikanopoihqhke ayto to aithma, to opoio xronizei, ws gnwston kai gia to opoio eixan diatypwqei epifylajeis ek meroys ths kybernhshs, sxetika me ta misqologika qemata twn papadwn;

REPPAS: Ek twn pragmatwn, kata th dikh sas ekdoxh, h kybernhsh prepei panta na brisketai sth qesh toy kathgoroymenoy. Otan den parexei aytes tis ayjhseis poy polloi zhtoyn, kathgoreitai giati den tis parexei. Otan dinei aytes tis ayjhseis, kathgoreitai giati tis dinei. H kybernhsh me thn politikh poy exei akoloyqhsei ta teleytaia xronia -politikh staqerothtas, ejygianshs kai anaptyjhs- exei katorqwsei, afenos, na odhghsei th xwra se ena ajiozhleyto oikonomiko epipedo kai afeteroy exei petyxei h idia na exei th dynatothta na antimetwpisei me qetiko tropo -diaforetiko ap` oti sto parelqon poy den yphrxan oi shmerines dynatothtes- aithmata diaforwn kladwn. Ta qemata sta opoia anaferqhkate, xqes gia toys andres twn Enoplwn Dynamewn, shmera gia toys klhrikoys, pisteyoyme oti prepei na antimetwpistoyn me ayto ton tropo. H kybernhsh antapokrinetai se aithmata, ta opoia exoyn diatypwqei kai h ikanopoihsh toys eixe parameinei metewrh. Twra, den dhmioyrgeitai o paramikros kindynos gia thn poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Antiqetws, pisteyoyme oti ejisorropoyntai oi mexri twra yfistamenes anisothtes se polloys tomeis kai pantws, ayth h politikh den exei sxesh me otidhpote mporei kaneis na xarakthrisei proeklogikh paroxh, doqentos oti h kybernhsh se oloys toys tonoys exei diamhnysei th qesh ths. Epiqymoyme oi ekloges na ginoyn to Septembrio toy 2000. Ara, loipon, den eimaste emeis ekeinoi, oi opoioi ek twn pragmatwn, dhmioyrgoyme ena proeklogiko skhniko. Emeis dhlwnoyme oti oi ekloges qeloyme na ginoyn sto telos ths qhteias ayths ths kybernhshs. Opoioi dhmioyrgoyn proeklogiko skhniko, parakalw as aitiwntai eaytoys, an me dikh toys prwtoboylia, metajy twn allwn, paraskeyazoyn kai thn eklogikh toys htta. Den ftaiei h kybernhsh gi ayto.

FILHS: Mhpws mporeite na mas enhmerwsete poioi qa einai oi epomenoi tyxeroi toy "binteolotto" toy proypologismoy, dedomenoy oti ayth einai pia h taktikh ths kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Me entypwsiase h eygeneia me thn opoia milhsate gia tis "sympaqeis tajeis", gia tis dyo aytes omades sympolitwn mas. Emeis exoyme sympaqeia kai eyaisqhsia gia to synolo twn Ellhnwn politwn. Pisteyoyme oti h politikh poy askoyme ston tomea ayto einai dynato na ikanopoihsei th syntriptikh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn ergazomenwn politwn. Giati, shmera, exoyme tis dynatothtes na antapokriqoyme se pagia kai xronizonta aithmata. Kai exoyme, shmera, aytes tis dynatothtes, xarh sthn politikh poy askhsame ta teleytaia xronia.

LAKOPOYLOS: An katalaba kala, apo thn apanthsh poy dwsate, ayto poy ennoeite einai oti h politikh ths kybernhshs exei apodwsei pleonasma, to opoio dianemetai. An, loipon, exoyme ena pleonasma to opoio dianemei h kybernhsh, mporeite na mas prosdiorisete poso einai ayto to pleonasma; Me poia ierarxhsh katanemetai; Giati arxisate apo toys iereis kai oxi p. x. apo toys oikodomoys;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola h kybernhsh, sto plaisio twn metrwn antistaqmistikhs politikhs poy efarmozei, exei analabei prwtoboylies gia thn anakoyfish twn oikonomika eypaqesterwn koinwnikwn strwmatwn toy plhqysmoy. Gnwrizete oti exoyme anakoinwsei, edw kai arketo kairo, ena paketo oikonomikwn metrwn ycoys, 470 dis draxmwn -peripoy misoy tris draxmwn- gia polles kathgories politwn, opws einai oi syntajioyxoi, oi agrotes, oi misqwtoi. Ayto htan to prwto bhma poy ekane h kybernhsh mas gia na antimetwpisei problhmata twn adynamwn oikonomika sympolitwn mas, aytwn poy exoyn pragmatikh anagkh bohqeias. Den jekinhsame twra -opws lete sthn erwthsh sas- na antimetwpisoyme me ayta ta metra aithmata diaforwn omadwn. Exoyme anakoinwsei, edw kai arketo kairo, tetoia metra koinwnikhs kai oikonomikhs politikhs.

LAKOPOYLOS: Poso einai ayto to pleonasma;

REPPAS: Ayto poy mporw na sas diabebaiwsw, einai toyto: Ayth thn wra, den yparxei opoiosdhpote kindynos gia thn poreia ths xwras kai den dhmioyrgeitai to paramikro elleimma. Den dhmioyrgeitai, pleon, prwtogenes elleimma sthn Ellada. H ellhnikh oikonomia exei th dynatothta na antimetwpisei tetoia aithmata.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Me dedomenh thn eyaisqhsia gia to synolo twn Ellhnwn politwn, pws sxediazei h kybernhsh na antimetwpisei tis agrotikes kinhtopoihseis, oi opoies proanaggelqhkan, prin apo ligo, apo shmantikh merida ekproswpwn twn agrotwn, meta apo synanthsh poy eixan sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn hgesia toy armodioy ypoyrgeioy;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw oti meta th synergasia toys me ton Prwqypoyrgo ekproswpoi twn agrotwn ekanan dhlwseis, oi opoies kinoyntai se diaforetikh kateyqynsh. Pisteyoyme oti einai ikanopoihtikos o tropos me ton opoio h kybernhsh proseggizei kai antimetwpizei ta problhmata toy agrotikoy kosmoy. Qewroyme adikaiologhtes tis kinhtopoihseis opoiasdhpote morfhs, idiaitera ayth thn periodo. O dialogos apotelei thn kalyterh kai apotelesmatikoterh meqodo gia na lysoyme ta problhmata poy apasxoloyn megaloys xwroys toy plhqysmoy, opws einai oi agrotes. O ypoyrgos Gewrgias G. Anwmeriths probainei se dhlwseis, ayth thn wra. Gnwrizete poia einai ta metra ta opoia exoyn anakoinwqei. Pisteyoyme oti h prosfora mas ston agrotiko tomea, h opoia einai gnwsth kai diaxronikh -milw gia oles tis kybernhseis toy PASOK- episfragizetai me ta teleytaia metra poy exei ejaggeilei h kybernhsh mas.

FILHS: Ayth thn wra pragmatopoieitai sthn Aqhna mia synanthsh me th symmetoxh kai Toyrkwn epishmwn kai ekproswpwn forewn kai kommatwn, thn opoia diorganwnei o Synaspismos. To basiko qema ths hmeridas einai h amoibaia analogikh kai isorroph meiwsh twn polemikwn dapanwn Elladas kai Toyrkias. Me dedomeno oti einai to qema to opoio kaqoristika prosdiorizei thn koinwnikh kai oikonomikh anaptyjh kai ths dikhs mas xwras, qa hqela ena sxolio ths kybernhshs.

REPPAS: Apo qesh arxhs eimaste enantion ths entashs twn ejoplismwn. Pisteyoyme sthn anagkh meiwshs twn ejoplismwn gia na ejoikonomhsoyme xrhmata gia programmata anaptyjhs kai koinwnikhs bohqeias. Me thn erwthsh sas, moy dinete thn eykairia na pw, oti to apotelesma ths kybernhtikhs prospaqeias, me thn anaptyjh poy exoyme epityxei, krinetai akoma pio shmantiko ean ejetastei ypo to prisma toy baroys twn dapanwn gia to ejoplistiko programma ths xwras. Einai ena oikonomiko baros poy shkwnoyme, ejaitias twn problhmatwn poy antimetwpizoyme. Ena baros poy den exoyn alles xwres, me tis opoies mporoyme na sygkriqoyme. An, loipon, prosmetrhqei kai ayto to stoixeio, kanei akoma pio shmantika ta epiteygmata ths kybernhshs mas ston oikonomiko tomea kai oxi mono. Pisteyoyme sth meiwsh twn ejoplismwn. Pisteyoyme, omws, oti to prwto kai kaqoristiko bhma gia na odhghqoyme se efarmogh ayths ths qeshs, mporei na einai ena: H apostratikopoihsh ths Kyproy. Kai to bhma ayto apotelei th megalh proklhsh gia thn Toyrkia.

FILHS: Me bash to gegonos oti hdh yparxei mia diadikasia, mia dieqnhs kinhtikothta, oson afora to Kypriako, kaqws, epishs, kai mia diadikasia sto plaisio ths E. E. poy ephreazei to klima, alla kai thn oysia twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn, qa hqela na rwthsw: Stoys problhmatismoys ths kybernhshs einai piqanh h anastolh toy yperejoplistikoy programmatos poy exei anakoinwqei apo ellhnikhs pleyras, prokeimenoy na antapokriqei se endexomenh qetikh ejelijh aytwn twn dyo diadikasiwn, dhladh, ths dieqnoys kinhtikothtas gia to Kypriako kai ths eyrwtoyrkikhs ejelijhs;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poia einai h apofash poy exei labei h kypriakh kybernhsh, oson afora thn egkatastash toy pyraylikoy systhmatos twn S-300. Ara, qa prepei na yparxei antapokrish apo thn allh pleyra, me thn epideijh analoghs symperiforas. Exoyme apofasisei ena ejoplistiko programma kai eimaste ypoxrewmenoi na to efarmosoyme. Den allazei tipota ws pros ayto. Epanalambanw, thn prosklhsh-proklhsh mas pros thn Toyrkia na synainesei sthn apostratikopoihsh ths Kyproy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Proxqes, sas rwthsa gia to qema ths Imbroy kai eipate oti einai qema astynomikoy deltioy... Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio twra me thn ejelijh...

REPPAS: Den yparxei kamia diaforetikh ejelijh. Epanalambanw th dhlwsh poy ekana proxqes, gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Sas exw pei, hdh, oti paragontes twn armodiwn yphresiwn einai se epafh me tis yphresies ths Toyrkias. Qelw me thn eykairia ayth, na dhlwsw oti einai qetiko to gegonos pws ta toyrkika MME, sto synolo toys, ekfrazoyn ton apotropiasmo toys gi ayth thn prajh, thn opoia qewroyn egklhmatikh kai apanqrwph. Anadeiknyetai to qema sta toyrkika MME kai ayto einai qetiko stoixeio, qetiko mhnyma. Apo kei kai pera, diereynwntai oles oi synqhkes. Kai na eiste sigoyros oti oi armodies yphresies einai se synexh epafh kai qa ginei ayto poy prepei na ginei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egine kapoia diamartyria, kapoio diabhma;

REPPAS: Yparxei synexhs epafh. Ayto ta leei ola. Kai sto plaisio aytwn twn epafwn ginetai dialogos me periexomeno, to opoio einai analogo ths epiqymias kai twn dyo pleyrwn -to shmeiwnw ayto- na breqei poios einai o ypeyqynos, o ypaitios gi ayto to tragiko symban.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epimenete oti einai qema astynomikoy deltioy;

REPPAS: Isxyoyn ayta poy exw pei.

PARIS: Exei kapoia kainoyrgia plhroforhsh h kybernhsh gia to ean kai pote qa arxisoyn oi synomilies ston OHE gia to Kypriako;

REPPAS: Den exei prosdioristei hmeromhnia. Den exoyme kapoies plhrofories, oi opoies na exoyn epishmo xarakthra.

PARIS: O xronos, o opoios apomenei ws to Elsinki, einai arketos wste na yparjei kapoia proodos;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti aytos o dialogos eprepe hdh na exei jekinhsei. Epiqymoyme na jekinhsei twra, shmera. Apo kei kai pera, h dieqnhs koinothta, idiaiterws oi paragontes poy asxoloyntai me ayto to qema -giati exoyn analabei sygkekrimenes armodiothtes- as ektimhsoyn th stash toy k. Ntenktas, h opoia einai apolytws arnhtikh se kaqe prospaqeia ejeyreshs lyshs.

BITALHS: Enocei thn anamenomenhs prosklhshs toy Genikoy Grammatea exei kapoia enhmerwsh h kybernhsh gia endexomenh koinh synanthsh, sthn Kwnstantinoypolh, sth Synodo toy OASE, twn Klhridh, Ntenktas kai Klinton;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw na problepetai kati tetoio sto plaisio ayths ths synodoy.

BITALHS: Einai qetikh h ellhnikh pleyra se mia tetoia ejelijh;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh epiqymei na syzhthsoyn apeyqeias oi dyo pleyres, ef` olhs ths ylhs gia to Kypriako, xwris oroys kai proypoqeseis, me eilikrinh diaqesh na ejeyreqei lysh. Den xreiazetai na parembei tritos, arkei na yparxei diaqesh kai boylhsh, opws thn exei ekfrasei h kypriakh kybernhsh, kai apo thn allh pleyra. Tote ola mporei na pane kala.

Sas eyxaristw.


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