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Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-01-21

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 21 Ianoyarioy 2002

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Opws gnwrizete, yparxei h paraithsh toy k. Giannh Zafeiropoyloy apo th qesh toy yfypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn. Qa exete sth diaqesh sas to keimeno ths paraithshs toy, h opoia ofeiletai, opws leei o idios, se sygkekrimenes diafwnies poy yphrjan ston tomea toy.

O Prwqypoyrgos, apantwntas ston k. Giannh Zafeiropoylos, toy apesteile thn ejhs epistolh: "Agaphte Giannh, lypoymai giati den mporese na breqei tropos synergasias soy sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Apodexomai thn paraithsh soy. Se eyxaristw gia th doyleia poy proseferes. Bohqhses shmantika gia th drash mas stis dieqneis oikonomikes sxeseis ths xwras. Eimai bebaios oti qa synexiseis na prosfereis gia thn epityxia toy ergoy ths kybernhshs kai toy kommatos".

O k. G. Zafeiropoylos tonizei oti synexizei panta kai ws melos ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas kai ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy Kinhmatos na symbalei energa kai maxhtika sthn ylopoihsh twn kybernhtikwn kai kommatikwn stoxwn.

Sth qesh toy k. Zafeiropoyloy analambanei o k. Andreas Loberdos, boyleyths ths B' eklogikhs perifereias Aqhnwn. Toy eyxomaste kaqe epityxia sto neo ergo toy. Qa orkistei thn Tetarth to prwi.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Shmera, stis 12 to meshmeri, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe synergasia me to Grammatea ths Neolaias toy PASOK Qano Mwraith, me antikeimeno to epikeimeno Synedrio ths Neolaias toy Kinhmatos, poy qa ginei stis arxes Febroyarioy. Ayth thn wra o Prwqypoyrgos qa egkainiasei to neo ktirio ths Eqnikhs Trapezas kai bebaiws, qa yparjei kai omilia toy, h opoia kai qa sas dianemhqei. To brady, o Prwqypoyrgos qa parastei, opws kaqe xrono, sthn ethsia dejiwsh toy Emporikoy kai Biomhxanikoy Epimelhthrioy Peiraia kai qa kanei sxetikh dhlwsh.

Ayrio, yparxei h episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ton opoio qa synodeyoyn o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy kai o yfypoyrgos Typoy Thlemaxos Xythrhs, sth Boylgaria, opoy qa exei synanthseis me thn politikh hgesia ths xwras ayths. Einai gnwsto oti oi sxeseis mas me th Boylgaria einai idiaitera qetikes kai qeloyme mia monimh, staqerh epafh kai synergasia. Ayta ta qemata, opws epishs kai mia seira epimeroys zhthmata poy exoyn na kanoyn kai me thn koinh poreia mas sthn perioxh, alla kai me tis prooptikes gia thn entajh ths Boylgarias sto NATO kai th mellontikh poreia ths sthn E.E., qa syzhthqoyn metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths politikhs hgesias ths xwras.

Thn Tetarth, stis 11 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synergasia me thn Gianna Aggelopoyloy. Opws gnwrizete, aytes tis hmeres episkeptetai th xwra mas to klimakio ths Dieqnoys Olympiakhs Epitrophs. Stis 14.30, qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Politismoy Eyaggelo Benizelo. Stis 19.00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa parastei sthn ekdhlwsh toy Omiloy Problhmatismoy gia ton eksygxronismo ths ellhnikhs koinwnias (OPEK) -o opoios symplhrwnei deka xronia zwhs kai leitoyrgias- me qema to shmerino nohma toy eksygxronismoy.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio me qema thn politikh mas ston tomea twn epikoinwniwn. Eishghths qa einai o armodios ypoyrgos Xrhstos Berelhs. Stis 14.00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo anaplhrwth Ejwterikwn Taso Giannitsh. Qa syzhthsoyn gia thn paroysia toy stis Bryjelles, sto telos toy mhna. Stis Bryjelles o Prwqypoyrgos qa parastei sth synedriash ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, toy legomenoy "Kolegioy twn Epitropwn" kai qa exei synergasia me ton k. Pronti. Ayto einai ena eqimo poy ginetai kata kairoys me toys epikefalhs twn kybernhsewn twn xwrwn-melwn ths E.E. Epishs, kata th diarkeia ths paramonhs toy sth belgikh prwteyoysa, qa milhsei sto Eyrwpaiko Kolegio sto Mpriz gia to mellon ths Eyrwphs kai thn politikh synoxhs s` aythn.

Thn Paraskeyh, to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa apanthsei se erwthseis sth Boylh. Stis 12.00, qa exei synergasia me ton Albano Prwqypoyrgo k. Meta, o opoios qa episkefqei thn Ellada. Opws blepete, yparxei mia idiaitera entonh drasthriothta sthn eyaisqhth perioxh twn Balkaniwn gia thn anaptyjh sxesewn kai th dynatothta omalwn ejelijewn eirhnhs, filias kai synergasias sthn perioxh. Stis 19.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa parastei sth dejiwsh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias gia to diplwmatiko swma.

To Sabbato, qa episkefqei ton Almyro Boloy, opoy qa exei thn eykairia na egkainiasei to neo ergostasio ths etairias SOVEL, endiaferontos toy Omiloy BIOXALKO. Einai mia megalh paragwgikh ependysh pnohs poy pragmatopoieitai sthn polh toy Almyroy. H paroysia toy Prwqypoyrgoy ekei erxetai na tonisei akribws ayto: Na xairetisei kai na sthrijei paragwgikes ependyseis toy idiwtikoy tomea, poy bohqoyn thn oikonomia kai th biomhxania ths xwras kai dhmioyrgoyn polles ekatontades nees qeseis ergasias, bohqwntas etsi thn politikh ths apasxolhshs.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti o k. Loberdos qa parei tis idies armodiothtes me ton k. Zafeiropoylo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipa ayto. Eipa oti oi armodiothtes kaqorizontai me koinh apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai meta apo eishghsh toy armodioy ypoyrgoy kai oti yparxei ena keno se aytes tis armodiothtes, ayth th stigmh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ton k. Zafeiropoylo apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Oikonomias ton efere sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn me aytes tis armodiothtes, tis opoies den mporese na askhsei. Giati ton efere tote, afoy den mporese na askhsei ekei armodiothtes; Kapoios sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn den ton afhse, den toy tis edwse tis armodiothtes;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Zafeiropoylos sthn epistolh toy, h opoia qa sas moirastei -ejalloy, den exoyme tipota na krycoyme- epikaleitai diafwnies ston tropo organwshs kai askhshs ths politikhs ston tomea twn dieqnwn oikonomikwn sxesewn kai stis diadikasies ylopoihshs twn sxediwn gia thn oikonomikh anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn. Ayto htan to problhma kai ekei yphrje h diafwnia metajy toy ypoyrgoy kai toy yfypoyrgoy. H diaforetikh antilhch poy eixe o k. Zafeiropoylos ton odhghse sthn prajh paraithshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Aytes tis armodiothtes toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn tis exei o k. Rontos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Panta yparxei se ola ekproswpos ths politikhs hgesias. Oi sxetikes armodiothtes anhkoyn sthn epopteia toy yfypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn. Bebaiws, opws katalabainete, thn kentrikh eyqynh leitoyrgias enos ypoyrgeioy kai th xarajh ths strathgikhs toy thn exei panta o ypoyrgos. Otan yparxei diafwnia sthn kentrikh politikh enos ypoyrgeioy apo ena melos ths politikhs hgesias, h diafwnia ayth prepei na epilyetai me kapoio tropo. H paraithsh einai enas apo aytoys toys tropoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, me ayto poy moy lete twra, yphrje diafwnia toy k. Zafeiropoyloy me ton k. Papandreoy h toy k. Papandreoy me ton k. Zafeiropoylo gia thn politikh poy askoyse o k. Zafeiropoylos;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Zafeiropoylos sthn epistolh toy, thn opoia qa parete, epikaleitai diafwnia toy me ton k. Papandreoy, ston tropo organwshs kai askhshs ths politikhs sto diko toy tomea. Einai fysiko na yparxoyn, kapoies stigmes, diafwnies. Politika proswpa eimaste oloi kai exoyme tis apoceis mas. Otan briskomaste dyo politikoi ston idio xwro, o enas poy exei thn kentrikh eyqynh kai th xarajh ths politikhs kai strathgikhs kai o allos exei ena meros ayths ths eyqynhs kai yparxei diafwnia, h diafwnia ayth einai logiko oti me kapoio tropo prepei na antimetwpistei. H doyleia prepei na proxwrhsei. Kai bebaiws o idios o k. Zafeiropoylos jekaqarizei -kai ayto einai idiaitera pros timhn toy- oti paramenei energo stelexos sthn yperaspish toy kybernhtikoy kai kommatikoy ergoy kai pantote strateymenos sthn poreia kai thn politikh toy PASOK.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn kai se alla ypoyrgeia diafwnies; Mhpws exoyme paraithseis kai se alla;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn anhsyxeite k. Stamatopoyle.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den anhsyxw, eimai poly hremos.

PRWTOPAPAS: To blepw.

TAKHS: Aytes oi diafwnies apo pote einai se gnwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy; Qelw na mas peite, an yphrje kapoia synanthsh twn dyo mesa sto Sabbatokyriako h o Prwqypoyrgos shmera to prwi emaqe peri ths paraithsews kai pote esteile thn epistolh ston k. Zafeiropoylo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyn yparjei epikoinwnies toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Zafeiropoylo, dioti o k. Zafeiropoylos htan melos ths kybernhshs. Kai einai logiko oti oi opoies apoceis toy exoyn teqei kai apo ton idio, ypoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Otan kriqhke apo ton k. Zafeiropoylo oti den mporei na yparjei diaforetikos tropos, epeleje thn odo ths apostolhs ayths ths epistolhs. Bebaiws, apanthse o Prwqypoyrgos me hmeromhnia 21.1.2002.

MOYRTZHS: Poies htan oi paraineseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy pros ton k. Zafeiropoylo, otan toy eqese to qema;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti se ayta ta zhthmata yparxoyn mia seira ejelijeis, stis opoies den einai panta eykolo na anaferqoyme. Pantws, olh ayth h topoqethsh eteqh ypoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Eginan oi aparaithtes diaboyleyseis kai telikws, yphrje h epistolh poy gnwrizete.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ayth h diafwnia metajy toy k. Papandreoy kai toy k. Zafeiropoyloy htan diafwnia epi ths oysias ths askhsews ths ejwterikhs politikhs apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Den yparxei diafwnia sthn ejwterikh politikh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Mporei na yparjei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw ti, kata kairoys, exei eipwqei kai den einai dynato na to gnwrizoyme. Gnwrizoyme ti epikaleitai o k. Zafeiropoylos sthn epistolh toy. Kai pantote se ayta ta zhthmata prepei na yparxei diafaneia kai na enhmerwnetai o kosmos. O idios o k. Zafeiropoylos epikaleitai diafwnies ston tropo organwshs kai askhshs ths politikhs ston tomea toy, stis dieqneis oikonomikes sxeseis. Ekei yphrje h diafwnia kai o k. Zafeiropoylos epeleje thn odo ths paraithshs.

KARGOYDH: Epeidh, ej oswn katalabainoyme, to krisimo qema ths diafwnias metajy twn kyriwn Papandreoy kai Zafeiropoyloy htan to sxedio anasygkrothshs sta Balkania...

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws, to leei kai sthn epistolh toy.

KARGOYDH: Epeidh, epishs, einai gnwsto oti o k. Zafeiropoylos htan o ypeyqynos ths katartishs aytoy toy sxedioy, toylaxiston mexri protinos, qelw na rwthsw, ean qa yparjoyn allages sto mexri shmera katartisqen sxedio kai pote h kybernhsh skopeyei na to kataqesei sth Boylh, dioti yparxei mia kaqysterhsh peripoy enos etoys;

PRWTOPAPAS: To sxedio ayto, ypo th morfh sxedioy nomoy, einai sto stadio sylloghs ypografwn apo toys armodioys ypoyrgoys. Dhladh, poly syntoma qa erqei sth Boylh.

TAKHS: Gnwrizete, ean o Prwqypoyrgos piese, ektos apo ton k. Zafeiropoylo kai ton k. Papandreoy na brei mia symbibastikh lysh, wste na mh fqasoyme sthn paraithsh; Yphrjan, dhladh, paraineseis pros ton k. Papandreoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos den piezei kanenan. O Prwqypoyrgos exei thn kentrikh eyqynh ths politikhs ths kybernhshs kai einai logiko na dinei tis kateyqynseis gia ola ta qemata. Apo kei kai pera, yphrxan oi kentrikes kateyqynseis, oi opoies exoyn doqei kai gia thn katartish toy nomosxedioy. Ligo prin sas eipa oti ayto to nomosxedio einai sto stadio ths sylloghs twn ypografwn. Apo kei kai pera, otan yparxei diafwnia enos meloys ths kybernhshs, h pio entimh odos einai h odos ths paraithshs.

TAKHS: Ayto poy rwtw einai, ean h apoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy htan pio konta se ayth toy Giwrgoy Papandreoy h pio konta se ayth toy k. Zafeiropoyloy.

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos enhmerwqhke gi ayta ta qemata. Exoyn doqei oi sxetikes kateyqynseis, yparxei ena sxedio nomoy poy einai sto stadio ths sylloghs ypografwn twn synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn. Apo kei kai pera, o k. Zafeiropoylos ektimhse oti yparxei mia shmantikh diafwnia me ton ypoyrgo toy kai epeleje thn odo ths paraithshs.

MIXAHL: Poies eggyhseis yparxoyn oti den qa yparjoyn kainoyrgies diafwnies kai me ton kainoyrgio yfypoyrgo...;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kyrie Mixahl, den exw kanei manths mexri twra !

MIXAHL: Qa sas pw giati to lew. Giati bebaiws thn politikh eyqynh ths strathgikhs thn exei o kaq ylhn armodios ypoyrgos, en prokeimenw o k. Papandreoy. Omws, ayto den shmainei oti einai kai swsth h politikh polles fores. Qelw na maqw, ean enas yfypoyrgos poy krinei oti den einai swsth kai paraiteitai, poios mas leei oti kai kapoios allos den qa to kanei poy ton diadexetai.

PRWTOPAPAS: Pragmatika den katanow thn erwthsh sas. Proqesh mas einai ola ta zhthmata na lynontai kai na gnwrizei o kosmos poies einai oi apoceis ths kybernhshs. Kapoia stigmh h kybernhsh katalhgei stis apoceis ths. Kapoia stigmh o Prwqypoyrgos dinei tis sxetikes kateyqynseis, kapoia stigmh lambanontai oi apofaseis. Kai otan lambanontai aytes oi apofaseis, yparxei h odos ths symfwnias kai bebaiws kai h odos na peis oti ``egw den qewrw pws mporw na ylopoihsw th sxetikh apofash''. Einai kai ta dyo mia entimh stash.

FASOYLAS: H epistolh paraithshs eixe apostalei apo thn Paraskeyh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa, 21 Ianoyarioy 2002.

ARGYROS: Yphrje synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Zafeiropoylo, meta to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, thn perasmenh Pempth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyn ginei polles synanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai me ton k. Zafeiropoylo, opws exoyn ginei kai me oloys toys ypoyrgoys kai yfypoyrgoys. Otan yparxoyn problhmata, otan yparxoyn eishghseis, otan yparxoyn qemata, o Prwqypoyrgos synantatai me ta melh ths kybernhshs toy.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: O k. Zafeiropoyloys, leei, metajy twn allwn, ta ejhs: ``Logw ths apolyths diafwnias moy me ton k. Papandreoy, ws pros ton tropo organwshs kai askhshs ths politikhs mas ston akrws eyaisqhto kai krisimo tomea twn dieqnwn oikonomikwn sxesewn ths xwras mas kai ths diadikasias ylopoihshs toy ellhnikoy sxedioy gia thn oikonomikh anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn...''. Nomizw oti einai para poly sobaro to zhthma poy qetei kai paraiteitai. Den symfwneite;

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan kapoios paraiteitai kai eidika enas anqrwpos poy exei mia poreia mesa sta politika pragmata, shmainei oti exei mia sobarh diafwnia. Apo kei kai pera, qelw na sas tonisw oti ayta ta pragmata sthn politikh einai apolytws fysiologika. Yparxei ena ypoyrgeio, yparxei o exwn th genikh politikh eyqynh toy ypoyrgeioy. Yparxei, bebaiws pantote kai o Prwqypoyrgos. Gia ola ayta ta zhthmata yparxoyn kapoies apofaseis. Qemito apolytws einai ena qema, otan enas politikos exei kapoia diafwnia me tis apofaseis aytes kai qewrei oti to qema einai sobaro kai gnwrizei oti to qema einai armodiothtas toy ypoyrgoy kai aytos exei thn eyqynh ths ylopoihshs kai piqana exei mia diaforetikh apoch, mporei na epilejei kai ayth thn odo.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: O k. Zafeiropoylos ylopoioyse ena sxedio apo tote poy htan sto ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Oikonomias. Epelegh apo ton Prwqypoyrgo gia th qesh toy yfypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn gia na synexisei to idio sxedio. Stis armodiothtes kai sto sxedio ayto poy ylopoioyse o k. Zafeiropoylos, yparxei kentrikh diafwnia anamesa ston k. Shmith kai ston k. Papandreoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean yphrxe kentrikh diafwnia qa thn jerate. Ayta ta pragmata einai poly gnwsta. Otan kapoios exei mia kentrikh eyqynh gia ena sygkekrimeno qema kai otan kapoios exei thn eyqynh enos tomea ths kybernhtikhs politikhs, sta sobara zhthmata, gnwrizete kala oti prepei na pisteyei kai sthn akoloyqoymenh politikh. Thn kentrikh eyqynh ths kybernhshs thn exei o Prwqypoyrgos kai oi ypoyrgoi exoyn toys epimeroys tomeis. Ayto shmainei praktika oti olo to kybernhtiko ergo ejelissetai omala, me bash tis kentrikes kateyqynseis poy dinei o Prwqypoyrgos. Paroysiazontai kapoies dhlwseis, kapoia shmeia diafwnias, se kapoia ypoyrgeia. Kai den einai prwtognwro to fainomeno. Kaqe politikos exei thn apoch toy. Kai idiaitera otan einai armodios se ena tomea, einai logiko na qelei na yphrethsei kai thn apoch toy. Ean h apoch toy den exei ginei dekth apo thn kybernhsh kai exei diaforetikh apoch me ton exonta thn eyqynh, yparxei kai h odos ths paraithshs. Giati to sxoliazete alliws;

MIXAHL: O k. Pagkalos, xqes, eipe oti to PASOK qa xasei tis ekloges, giati exei xasei ta laika strwmata poy exoyn pia apostasiopoihqei, merika apo ayta exoyn prosxwrhsei sto xwro ths laikhs Dejias. Exete kapoio sxolio gi` ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayth th stigmh, opws gnwrizete, exoyme alles proteraiothtes kai nomizw oti den prepei na krinoyme dhlwseis twn stelexwn mas.

MIXAHL: Se kapoia allh stigmh qa sxoliasete tis dhlwseis toy k. Pagkaloy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den katexw thn texnh ths mantikhs!

MIXAHL: Den einai qema manth, einai qema dikwn sas diaqesewn. Lete oti twra exete alles proteraiothtes kai den qa asxolhqeite me to na sxoliazete ton k. Pagkalo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipa "ton k. Pagkalo". Eipa oti den einai swsto, oti qa htan se baros toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, na asxolhqoyme me to sxoliasmo dhlwsewn twn stelexwn toy Kinhmatos. Mas endiaferei, oxi kata proteraiothta na sxoliazoyme tis dhlwseis twn stelexwn mas, alla na kanoyme swsta th doyleia mas kai na prowqhsoyme swsta to kybernhtiko ergo. Ayto zhta o laos apo emas. Ayth einai h epilogh mas. Kai ayto kanoyme.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: O k. Pagkalos ekane logo gia ena qayma. Eseis kanete logo gia mantikh. Telikws qa exoyme ena neo kyklo qaymatologias h mantikhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw, hdh, apanthsei epi ths oysias.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: Apodexeste oti xreiazetai ena qayma gia na kerdisete tis ekloges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas exw, hdh, apanthsei epi ths oysias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, meta to "fiasko" ths sygxwneyshs, o k. Karatzas paramenei dioikhths ths Eqnikhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Xrhsimopoieite mia lejh thn opoia akoysa polles fores aytes tis hmeres apo th Nea Dhmokratia. Einai mia arketa sklhrh lejh. Oi sygxwneyseis einai epixeirhmatikes apofaseis poy lambanontai mesa se ena sygkekrimeno plaisio. Gnwrizete, gia paradeigma, oti prosfata dyo poly megales kai pagkosmioy kyroys germanikes trapezes, h Deautshe Bank kai h Dresdner Bank, eixan apofasisei na proxwrhsoyn se sygxwneysh. Akoloyqws, metajy twn dioikhsewn twn dyo Trapezwn, proekyce mia seira apo diafwnies, oson afora ta leitoyrgika toys zhthmata kai oi Trapezes me anakoinwsh toys enhmerwsan to germaniko lao, kai kat` epektash oloys toys endiaferomenoys twn xwrwn-melwn ths E.E., oti den epimenoyn sthn apofash toys kai pws diakoptoyn tis diadikasies ths sygxwneyshs. Oydeis bghke sth Germania na apokalesei ayth thn anakoinwsh "fiasko".

Sthn Ellada, orismenes politikes dynameis, espeysan gia mia akomh fora na ekfrasoyn th xara toys giati den petyxe h sygxwneysh. Ayta den einai logika pragmata. To eipa kai xqes, to epanalambanw kai shmera: Ayto einai qeatro toy paralogoy. Einai qeatro toy paralogoy gia mia politikh dynamh na leei oti jerete "dystyxws, paei na ginei mia sygxwneysh poy qa einai kalh gia to ellhniko trapeziko systhma kai ton katanalwth kai eytyxws, poy h sygxwneysh ayth den petyxe". Ayto einai qeatro toy paralogoy. Ayto deixnei mikrocyxia kai mizeria sthn politikh.

Qelw na qymisw oti apo thn prwth wra poy anakoinwqhke ayth h sygxwneysh, oloi mas se dhlwseis tonisame oti h sygxwneysh ayth qa exei qetika apotelesmata sto ellhniko trapeziko systhma kai ton katanalwth, ton aplo polith. Oi dioikhseis twn dyo Trapezwn anephreasta proxwrhsan stis diapragmateyseis toys. Den eyodwqhkan aytes oi diapragmateyseis. Lew oti dystyxws den eyodwqhkan aytes oi diapragmateyseis. Giati, loipon, epixairei h Nea Dhmokratia; Nomizei oti qa exei politika ofelh; Ma, poia politikh dynamh oneireyetai gia ton eayton ths to rolo toy Ieremia, klaiontas sta ereipia ths Ieroysalhm; Ayth den einai sobarh politikh. Ayth den einai politikh poy mporei na dhmioyrghsei prooptikes gia thn oikonomia kai ta symferonta toy ellhnikoy laoy.

Bebaiws, emeis exoyme frontisei me th doyleia mas kai exoyme dhmioyrghsei ena staqero plaisio sthn oikonomia, mesa sto opoio eimaste bebaioi oti oi dyo Trapezes qa broyn to diko toys dromo kai qa proxwrhsoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, otan sth Germania phge na ginei ayth h sygxwneysh den bghke o Srenter na kanei dhlwseis, oyte o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn ths Germanias na qriambologoyn, opws egine edw, apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. Den yparxoyn dhlwseis. Kai to xeirotero einai oti parasyrate kosmo sto Xrhmatisthrio poy phge kai agorase metoxes twn dyo Trapezwn kai sto telos thn "pathse". Giati cemata einai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaneis den qriambologhse. Ekeino poy exw na pw einai oti otan anakoinwnetai mia epixeirhmatikh apofash, me barythta mesa se mia oikonomia, eiqistai -kai ayto exei ginei se oles tis xwres- o armodios ypoyrgos na kanei panta kapoia dhlwsh. Opws sas anefera, o Prwqypoyrgos, gia paradeigma, qa paei to Sabbato na egkainiasei ena megalo ergostasio poy prokyptei apo mia idiwtikh ependysh megaloy ycoys poy ginetai apo idiwtes mesa sto plaisio mias oikonomias poy anaptyssetai. Ti qa poyme, dhladh, an meta apo polla xronia, o mh genoito, paroysiastei ena problhma; Oti ftaiei o Prwqypoyrgos; Oxi, bebaiws. Ayto panta ginetai. Otan dyo megales ellhnikes Trapezes bgainoyn kai anakoinwnoyn mia qetikh proqesh, einai kaqhkon toy armodioy ypoyrgoy na tonisei oti ayto qa dhmioyrghsei ena qetiko plaisio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H mia einai kratikh, omws. To ergostasio den einai kratiko, einai idiwtiko.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti exei parelqei o kairos poy h kybernhsh "shkwne" to thlefwno kai edine entoles sthn Eqnikh Trapeza gia to ti qa kanei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poios diorizei ton Proedro;

PRWTOPAPAS:Ton Proedro ton diorizei h Genikh Syneleysh twn metoxwn.

KARGOYDH: Hqela na rwthsw, meta th mh sygxwneysh ths Eqnikhs me thn Alpha, h kybernhsh qa klhqei na prokrinei gia thn antagwnistikothta ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, synenwseis, sygxwneyseis, gamoys, arrabwnes, metajy kata kyrio logo ellhnikwn etaireiwn h qa prepei h protimhtea lysh na einai h ejeyresh strathgikwn symmaxiwn apo alles xwres.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi strathgikes symmaxies, idiaitera me tis xwres-melh ths E.E. den exoyn synora. Den mporoyme na eimaste emeis ekeinoi poy qa poyme: Protimhste na kanete strathgikes symmaxies kai sygxwneyseis metajy ellhnikwn Trapezwn h epixeirhsewn kai oxi me mia italikh, agglikh h germanikh. Eimaste se mia koinh eyrwpaikh agora kai epiteloys prepei na to antilhfqoyme ayto. Mesa se ayth thn koinh eyrwpaikh agora poy den exei synora, poy yparxoyn ependyseis apo oloys, symmetoxes apo oloys kai strathgikes symmaxies apo oloys den yparxoyn kai oria. H kaqe epixeirhsh kanei ayto poy ektima kalytero gia thn antagwnistikothta ths kai th mellontikh poreia ths. Kai h kaqe epixeirhsh qa synexisei na kanei to kalytero gi aythn. Emas, omws, to endiaferon mas, den einai na poyme se kaqe epixeirhsh ti qa kanei. Alimono! To diko mas endiaferon einai na dhmioyrghsoyme to plaisio, mesa sto opoio oi epixeirhseis poy doyleyoyn kai einai egkatesthmenes sthn Ellada, na ejasfalizoyn ychlh antagwnistikothta kai shmantikh qesh mesa sto neo eyrwpaiko periballon. Ayto einai to zhtoymeno.

PITARAS: Shmera, pantws, o Miltiadhs Ebert zhtaei epishmws na doqei sth dhmosiothta kai na erqei sth Boylh h meleth poy eixan paraggeilei h Eqnikh kai h Alpha apo thn etaireia Mckinsey, h opoia metajy allwn problepei oti gia na proxwrhsei ayth h sygxwneysh qa eprepe na apolyqoyn peripoy 8.500 ergazomenoi. Gnwrizete ayta ta stoixeia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme anakateyqei se epixeirhmatikes apofaseis. Den qa stamathsw na to tonizw ayto. Alimono, an h kybernhsh ejetazei tis epixeirhmatikes apofaseis stis Trapezes.

MOYRTZHS: Mporeite na mas peite, an to gnwrizete bebaiws, giati o k. Papantwnioy throyse apo thn prwth stigmh epifylaktikh stash gia to olo egxeirhma. Qelw na mas peite ean sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio h se alla organa ejefrase aytes tis antirrhseis kai tis epifylajeis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den htan dynaton to qema ths sygxwneyshs na syzhthqei sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Dioti an erxotan gia syzhthsh sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, ayto qa shmaine eyqeia anamijh ths kybernhshs se mia diadikasia, gia thn opoia den eprepe na ths peftei logos. Epomenws, den eixe thn eykairia o kaqe ypoyrgos kai kanenas ypoyrgos na kanei analytikes enhmerwseis kai anafores, giati ayto den htan armodiothta toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

MOYRTZHS: Eixe enhmerwsei ton k. Shmith gia tis epifylajeis toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Aifnidiasthkate apo th sygxwneysh@;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai oi dyo dioikhtes twn Trapezwn einai gnwsto oti anakoinwsan pros thn kybernhsh tis proqeseis toys kai otan telikws h sygxwneysh den pragmatopoihqhke kai thn telikh diakoph twn syzhthsewn. Den sas ekane entypwsh oti kai o k. Kwstopoylos, o opoios einai epikefalhs mias megalhs idiwtikhs Trapezas eixe epafh me thn kybernhsh gia na anakoinwsei kai tis proqeseis toy kai thn telikh diakoph twn diapragmateysewn; Otan ena megalo gegonos ginetai mesa sthn oikonomia einai logiko na endiaferetai h kybernhsh. Oyte, omws, h kybernhsh to ekane, oyte h kybernhsh to xalase. Exei diafora to ena apo to allo. Kai ena politiko komma an qelei na steketai sta podia toy swsta kai na dinei eggyhseis ston ellhniko lao gia to mellon -kai anaferomai sthn taktikh ths N.D.- den mporei na ejarta th stash toy apenanti se ayta ta kentrika oikonomika gegonota me bash thn aparadekth logikh "an me symferei h oxi". Den prepei na qelei ena politiko komma h Ellada na arxisei na moiazei me xwra poy paei pros ta pisw. Ena politiko komma prepei na doyleyei pros to symferon toy ellhnikoy laoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den moy apanthsate an o k. Karatzas paramenei dioikhths;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ej oswn gnwrizw o dioikhths ths Eqnikhs Trapezas k. Karatzas den telei ypo paraithsh. Kai xrhsimopoiw th frash "ej oswn gnwrizw", dioti ayto to qema den lynetai qesmika pote apo thn kybernhsh. Ayto to qema apasxolei ta organa ths Trapezas kai th Genikh Syneleysh twn metoxwn ths. Den yparxei kanena qema.

Sas eyxaristw.


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