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Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-07-03

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 3 Ioylioy 2002

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos brisketai sthn Oykrania, deyterh hmera ths episkechs toy.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KONTOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, shmera yparxoyn sygkekrimena dhmosieymata gia proswpa poy briskontai se kloio kai prokeitai na ginoyn syllhceis, malista, kapoies prosdiorizontai kai entos 30 hmerwn. Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean prokeitai tis epomenes 30 hmeres na jekaqarisoyme poia einai ayta ta pente proswpa ta opoia anaferontai.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw na epanalabw tipota perissotero apo ayta poy eipa, xqes. Proseggizoyme to qema me sobarothta, synepeia, eyqynh kai me ypeyqynh doyleia twn armodiwn organwn. Den dikaiologoyntai, oyte yperaisiodojia, oyte bebaiws ayta ta senaria poy kaqe ligo blepoyn to fws ths dhmosiothtas. Me thn eykairia, qa hqela na tonisw oti einai aparadekto ayto poy ginetai to teleytaio diasthma, eite dhmosiws, eite ypogeiws, na anaferontai proswpa poy den exoyn kamia sxesh me to qema. Erxomaste se poly dyskolh qesh, otan anagkazomaste na probainoyme se diaceyseis oti den synelhfqh o tade h o tade. Ayto einai aparadekto kai den tima th Dhmokratia mas. Qelw na episthsw idiaitera thn prosoxh ekeinwn poy diakinoyn tetoia senaria. As sebastoyn tis proswpikothtes kai thn ajioprepeia toy kaqe atomoy. As exoyme th stoixeiwdh ypomonh poy apaiteitai, gnwrizontas oti ta armodia organa kanoyn mia sobarh doyleia. As ta afhsoyme na ergastoyn, na synexisoyn sthn idia kateyqynsh kai o,ti yparxei, na eiste bebaioi oti qa anakoinwqei apo thn astynomia, egkaira.

KONTOPOYLOS: Anafereste, dhladh, se proswpa yperanw pashs ypocias ta onomata twn opoiwn exoyn akoystei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw -kai nomizw oti kaneis se ayth thn aiqoysa, ayth th stigmh, den gnwrizei- poy briskontai oi ereynes ths Astynomias. Ekeino poy qewrw pragmatika aparadekto -gia to opoio, bebaiws, den eyqyneste eseis- einai ayto to opoio egine xqes to brady kai -apo o,ti plhroforhqhka apo synadelfoys sas sth Boylh- egine kai shmera to prwi. Dhladh na kykloforoyn fhmologies stoys diadromoys kai na rwtoyntai boyleytes -akomh kai egw, den sas krybw- gia sygkekrimena proswpa, ta opoia dhqen exoyn syllhfqei apo tis arxes asfaleias. Dhqen. Ayto den mporei na synexistei. Den mporei na fwtografizoyme kai na diasyroyme proswpa. Qelw idiaitera na episthsw thn prosoxh kai na zhthsw th synergasia sas, s` ayth thn kateyqynsh, opws epishs kai olwn twn anqrwpwn twn MME.

KONTOPOYLOS: Sthn Amerikh, prin apo peripoy eji mhnes, kata thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy, eixan syzhthqei tote me tis armodies amerikanikes arxes sygkekrimena onomata sta opoia yphrxe mia sygklish plhroforiwn apo tis ellhnikes kai tis amerikanikes yphresies;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ena akomh myqeyma, ena akomh senario poy den exei kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Den bohqoyn se tipota ayta ta senaria. Ekqetoyn toys empneystes toys. To mono poy mporoyn na dhmioyrghsoyn, se teleytaia analysh, einai anasxesh ths doyleias, thn opoia kanoyn ayth th stigmh ta armodia organa. Epiteloys, to qema apaitei sobarothta kai eyqynh. Qelw na sas kalesw oloys -oloys mas- na symbaloyme me thn aparaithth sobarothta kai thn eyqynh poy xreiazetai. Kai opws eipame apo thn arxh: Xamhloi tonoi, oxi yperaisiodojia, oxi senaria. Kai panw apo ola, oxi diakinhsh fhmwn gia proswpa, gegonos poy prosballei kai th Dhmokratia mas kai th stoixeiwdh ennoia sebasmoy kai ajioprepeias twn proswpikothtwn, kaqe proswpikothtas kaqe polith.

BITALHS: Einai h kybernhsh sigoyrh oti o Jhros poy exei syllhfqei, exei sxesh me th ``17 Noembrh'';

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh einai sigoyrh gi ayto poy sas eipa xqes kai den exw kanena problhma na to epanalabw oti: To oplo to opoio breqhke plai ston Jhro, einai to oplo toy dolofonhqentos astynomikoy Math kai oti o dolofonhqeis Maths eblhqh me oplo poy xrhsimopoihse h 17 Noembrh kai se alles ekteleseis.

BITALHS: Egw diabazw sto "BHMA" -mporei na yparxei kai se allh efhmerida- oti kybernhtikes phges ekfrazoyn th bebaiothta oti exoyn sta xeria toys melos ths tromokratikhs organwshs 17N. Emeis dexomaste th dhlwsh sas. Apo ekei kai pera, ti ginetai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Xqes, epeidh hmoyn se epikoinwnia me toys perissoteroys apo esas, sxoliasame oloi thn eikona poy yphrxe se mia seira -oxi se oloys, eytyxws, den qelw na eimai adikos- thleoptikoys staqmoys. Polloi apo esas epikoinwnhsan xqes thlefwnika mazi moy -kai malista arga to brady- gia na me rwthsoyn gyrw apo sygkekrimena proswpa. Opws katalabainete, ayth h katastash den mporei na synexistei. Oi armodies kybernhtikes arxes lene mono ayto poy eipa xqes kai shmera kai to opoio den exei koyrastei na leei o armodios ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs M. Xrysoxoidhs. Aytes einai oi armodies kybernhtikes phges. Eidate ti agwna kanoyme -kai malista sas to exw pei kat` idian- gia na krathsoyme th deoysa sobarothta, eyqynh kai synepeia se ena toso shmantiko qema kai na afhsoyme thn astynomia na kanei th doyleia ths. Qeloyme na meinoyme sthn idia grammh: Xamhloi tonoi, oxi skopimothtes, oxi yperaisiodojia, oxi senaria, oxi parafilologia. Qa meinoyme staqera se ayth th grammh, dioti ayto apaitei h stoixeiwdhs sobarothta mias kybernhshs poy sebetai kai sthrizei th doyleia poy ginetai ayth th stigmh.

MOYRTZHS: Exoyn lhfqei ektakta metra asfaleias gia toys idiokthtes twn MME;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw.

MOYRTZHS: Sas to lew, giati yparxei ena dhmosieyma sthn "Eleyqerotypia" oti dexqhke ena thlefwnhma. Basei aytoy egine kati;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw na exei lhfqei kanena ektakto metro.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: H astynomia h oi diwktikes arxes foboyntai kapoio tromokratiko xtyphma, enocei.... (den akoygetai)

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na prosqesw tipota. Afhste thn Astynomia kai tis armodies arxes na kanoyn th doyleia toys.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: Epeidh parathroyme, toylaxiston, stoys dromoys kapoia ayjhmena metra asfaleias...

PRWTOPAPAS: As afhsoyme tis armodies arxes na kanoyn th doyleia toys.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean se periptwsh poy synexistei ayth h thleoptikh, kata kyrio logo, senariologia me anamijh sygkekrimenwn proswpwn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai ola ta kanalia. To epanalambanw, gia na mhn adikhsoyme ekeina poy kratoyn th sobarothta toys.

KARGOYDH: Hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh protiqetai na energopoihsei kapoia metra, gia paradeigma to ESR h otidhpote allo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qeloyme na energopoihsoyme mhxanismoys katastolhs. Qewroyme, omws, oti prepei na epideixqei eyqynh apo toys idioys toys anqrwpoys twn MME. Exw th gnwmh oti yparxoyn para polloi poy gnwrizoyn oxi mono ti shmainei h ennoia "eyqynh", alla kai pws na antapokrinontai se ayto. Kanw ekklhsh se aytoys, toys opoioys ypainisseste, na strateytoyn se ayth thn prospaqeia. Na eiste bebaioi oti, otan ayth h strateysh epiteyxqei, qa epelqei h anagkaia ryqmish pantoy, apo monh ths.

KAPPOS: Mia paraplhsia erwthsh: Erwthqhkate gia kybernhtikes phges, erwthqhkate gia kanalia, MME. Epikaloyntai polla MME ajiopistes astynomikes phges. Pros ayth thn kateyqynsh ti ginetai; Poly perissotero otan exoyme na kanoyme me paragontes poy einai kratikoi leitoyrgoi, einai sthn eyqynh ths kybernhshs, yfistantai kapoion elegxo. Ti ginetai me aytoys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyn ginei oles oi anagkaies synennohseis kai me armodia astynomika organa. Den qelw na toys adikoyme. Gnwrizete poly kala oti otan kapoios qelei na gracei kati, polles fores, epikaleitai aoristws, eite kybernhtikh, eite astynomikh phgh, h opoia den yparxei. Den einai h prwth fora poy to blepoyme ayto. Den anaferomai se sygkekrimena paradeigmata. Oloi edw mesa, omws, eiste empeiroi dhmosiografoi kai exete dei tetoies periptwseis. Stoys 8-9 mhnes poy eimai edw, arketes fores, eida tetoia pragmata. As mh dhmioyrgoyme mia ``synomwsiologia'' metajy mas. Gnwrizw oti yparxei enas antagwnismos, yparxei mia agwnia. Sebomai thn agwnia sas. Einai logiko oti qelei o dhmosiografos na einai plhroforhmenos, wste na plhroforhsei thn koinh gnwmh. Sas lew, omws, gia na yparxei ena aisqhma bebaiothtas, pws otidhpote yparxei, otidhpote gia to opoio eimaste bebaioi, qa sas to anakoinwnoyme kai qa to exete oloi.

KAPPOS: Antilambanomai to gegonos toy dhmosiografikoy antagwnismoy kai ta panta. Omws, gia na mhn adikoyme kai th doyleia twn synadelfwn, exoyme na kanoyme kai se epipedo anagnwshs kai se epipedo metadosewn apo ta radiothleoptika Mesa, oysiastika omoeidh senaria, ta opoia den diaferoyn kata poly metajy toys. Akribws ayta epikaloyntai astynomikes phges.

PRWTOPAPAS: Foboymai oti o enas ta pairnei apo ton allon.

KAPPOS: Ean, omws, ta pairnei apo th Genikh Asfaleia h apo thn antitromokratikh...;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw oti symbainei ayto.

KAPPOS: Gia o,ti grafetai einai ypeyqynoi oi dhmosiografoi...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipa etsi. Frontisa na pw oti polloi, isws kai oi perissoteroi dhmosiografoi, exoyn to deon aisqhma eyqynhs kai kanoyn kala th doyleia toys. Malista, zhthsa th symbolh toys, wste ayto na epikrathsei ws geniko klima. Den synhqizw na kathgorw anqrwpoys poy kanoyn sobara th doyleia toys. Lew oti yparxoyn polloi -kai den einai, kat anagkh, dhmosiografoi oloi, opws exete dei h mporei na deite stis xqesines thleoptikes kasetes twn deltiwn poy metatrepontai se sooy- oi opoioi symmetexoyn se mia tetoia eikona.

GARGALAKOS: Alla, sthn prwth periptwsh, otan egine h diarroh gia to oplo oti syndeetai me th ``17 Noembrh'', ayth h diarroh egine apo ajiwmatiko ths Astynomias, se sygkekrimeno dhmosiografo. Den mporeite na peite...

PRWTOPAPAS: Frontizoyme, opws blepete, se opoiodhpote problhma yparxei, na antapokrinomaste amesa.

GARGALAKOS: Dhladh, qelw na pw, systhse o armodios Ypoyrgos na stamathsoyn aytes oi diarroes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Se opoiadhpote allh periptwsh, mporei @opws gnwrizete kai gnwrizoyme oloi- na yparxoyn xiliades plhrofories, oi opoies bgainoyn apo astynomika organa. Exete dei oti ayth th fora yphrjan ola ta anagkaia metra, toylaxiston sto baqmo toy dynatoy. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti molis yphrje mia endeijh gia kati tetoio akoloyqhse amesws anakoinwsh, wste na mplokarei kai na mhdenisei to apotelesma ths opoiasdhpote diarrohs. Ayto ti shmainei; Oti exoyn gnwsh oi fylakes. Kai, bebaiws, parakoloyqoyme, apo poly konta, thn pragmatika megalh prospaqeia poy kataballei h hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs.

MPOTWNHS: Gnwrizete pws ejelissetai h ygeia toy Jhroy kai pote qa einai se qesh na kataqesei;

PRWTOPAPAS: To mono poy gnwrizw einai ayto poy gnwrizete ki eseis, apo tis anakoinwseis toy nosokomeioy, oi opoies einai safeis.

IWANNOY: Na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh ejetazei kapoio senario h ean anamenei h piqanologei kapoio xtyphma, antipoina apo th ``17 Noembrh''. Einai kati poy ejetazetai sobara;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw hdh apanthsei.

MOYRTZHS: Kata thn ektimhsh sas, oi diakinhtes aytwn twn senariwn, sta opoia fwtografizontai kai proswpa, ejyphretoyn mia skopimothta apoprosanatolismoy h einai sto plaisio enos kynhgioy ths ``epityxias'', qa elega ``dhmosiografikhs agyrteias'' orismenes fores;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na kanw cyxografhma. Xarakthrizw, omws, to apotelesma. Sas lew oti shmera to prwi pragmatika aisqanqhka idiaitera asxhma, otan moy thlefwnhsan apo th Boylh kai moy eipan oti yphrxe pali allh ekdoxh, kykloforoysan ta onomata allwn proswpwn. Katalabainete poly kala oti den mporoyme na synexisoyme etsi.

MOYRTZHS: Dhladh, sas katonomasan proswpa;

PRWTOPAPAS: Xqes me rwthsan polloi synadelfoi sas, ean o tade exei syllhfqei kai shmera polloi synadelfoi sas me rwthsan ean o deina exei syllhfqei. Ayto to pragma den to dexomai. Den einai oti den to diaceydoyme. To diaceydoyme. Epikoinwnhsame amesws kai me ton k. Xrysoxoidh, an kai den xreiazotan, alla, en pash periptwsei, yphrje mia akoma epikoinwnia kai bebaiws, eipame oti ayta den einai sobara pragmata. Alla, peran aytoy, den mporoyme na mpoyme se mia tetoia istoria. Ean ypeiselqoyme se mia tetoia syzhthsh, foboymai oti qa fqasoyme se epikindynes katastaseis. Qelw na kroysw ton kwdwna toy kindynoy kai na epikalestw th sobarothta kai thn eyqynh olwn twn anqrwpwn -kai yparxoyn para polloi- poy mporei na bohqhsoyn se ayto. Den mporei na ginetai ayto. Den einai swsto, giati den tima th Dhmokratia mas. Kai qa elega oti apadei sto stoixeiwdh sebasmo toy atomoy poy prepei na exoyme oloi.

ARGYROS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, zhthsate prohgoymenws xrono gia na kanoyn oi Arxes tis ereynes toys. Pisteyete oti prepei na perimenoyme mia synenteyjh toy k. Nasiakoy tis epomenes hmeres, o opoios qa mas dwsei neoteres plhrofories;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa dwsei kai shmera kapoia stoixeia, qa yparjei anakoinwsh. Akribws den gnwrizw. Exw thn ektimhsh oti qa einai kapoia symplhrwmatika stoixeia. Opote exei kati diapistwmeno kai elegmeno, opote exei kati, akomh ki an den einai kati to idiaitera shmantiko, eiste bebaioi oti qa sas to dinei.

GARGALAKOS: Protiqetai o ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs na kanei dhmosia ekklhsh pros toys tromokrates na egkataleicoyn thn paranomh drash toys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw kati tetoio. Den eimaste se ayth th fash. Eimaste se fash twn ereynwn kai malista mias doyleias poy ginetai pragmatika se baqos kai ajiopoiei olh thn prohghqeisa ergasia. Palaiotera eixe kanei tetoies ekklhseis, to gnwrizete. Twra, omws, eimaste se allh fash.

GARGALAKOS: Shmera, dhmosiopoieitai h dhmoskophsh ths MRB, poy emfanizei th N.D. na exei mia diafora panw apo 9 monades, enanti toy PASOK. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw dei, bebaiws, mexri ayth th stigmh poy syzhtoyme th dhmoskophsh, kaqws den thn exoyme akomh paralabei. Qelw na pisteyw oti ola ayta ta senaria poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas, oles tis prohgoymenes hmeres, apo to Sabbato kai meta, dhmioyrgoyn qa elega sobara erwthmatika kai epibebaiwnoyn th qelhsh toy ypoyrgeioy mas gia ena plaisio proanaggelias twn dhmoskophsewn. Ayth einai h prwth parathrhsh moy. Bebaiws, den exei sxesh me thn etairia, gia na mhn thn adikoyme, dioti exei ekdwsei anakoinwseis kai exei diaceysei ta senaria.

Qa kanw, omws, mia dhlwsh poy afora genika tis epikeimenes dhmoskophseis: Einai safes oti kaqe dhmoskophsh einai h politikh fwtografia mias sygkekrimenhs stigmhs, mias sygkekrimenhs periodoy, merikwn hmerwn mesa stis opoies diejagetai. Einai safes oti tis prohgoymenes hmeres yphrjan problhmata sthn politikh kai thn eikona mas. Einai logiko, ayta na katagrafontai se opoia dhmoskophsh egine sth diarkeia ekeinwn twn hmerwn. Ti kanoyme, loipon, emeis; Xrhsimopoioyme th dhmoskophsh gia thn peraiterw politikh analysh mas. Mas bohqa sthn politikh analysh kai thn ejagwgh twn anagkaiwn symperasmatwn. Alla den einai h dhmoskophsh poy xarassei politikh. Emeis xarassoyme thn politikh me to ergo mas. Diamorfwnoyme diaforetikh syneidhsh ston polith. Epomenws, ephreazoyme kai tis epomenes dhmoskophseis. Kai, mesa apo thn anodo ths syspeirwshs mas, sthn opoia qa symbalei idiaitera h panelladikh syndiaskech mas, qa odhghqoyme se shmantika diaforetika apotelesmata kai bebaiws sthn telikh nikh, opws egine kai stis ekloges toy 2000.

IWANNOY: Eipate oti qa bohqhsei, se ayth thn ayjhsh ths syspeirwshs kai sto klima enothtas, h syndiaskech. Parola ayta, shmera blepoyme to trito arqro toy k. Pagkaloy, to opoio strefetai eyqews pali enantion toy periballontos toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Mila gia "ejwqesmikoys kai parakratikoys roloys", gia "ypoyrgoys kai stelexh poy einai dikoi mas" kai kapoioys "poy den einai dikoi mas" kai gia "mwrofilodoja stelexh poy prohlqan apo to swlhna" kai ta opoia profanws xrhsimopoiei o Prwqypoyrgos kai sthn kybernhsh, alla kai se alla posta. Poso symballoyn ola ayta se ayto poy molis prohgoymenws eipate;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti eimaste sthn pro syndiaskechs periodo. Oti ola ta stelexh kanoyn tis synenteyjeis kai ta arqra toys, epomenws analambanoyn kai thn eyqynh gi` ayta poy lene. Den protiqemai se kamia periptwsh na sxoliasw ton problhmatismo ths pro syndiaskechs periodoy.

IWANNOY: Otan lete "analambanoyn thn eyqynh toys", ti ennoeite;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqenas einai ypeyqynos gi` ayto poy leei. Einai h apoch toy. Den nomizw oti qa htan swsto na arxisoyme na sxoliazoyme tis apoceis twn stelexwn. Ekeino poy mas endiaferei -kai ayto tonisa prin- einai mesa sth syndiaskech na epibebaiwqei h pisth stoys stoxoys mas, kaqws kai h diapistwsh poy egine kai th Deytera to brady, oti to PASOK exei olh th dynatothta na ferei se peras to programma toy, na antapokriqei stis prosdokies toy ellhnikoy laoy kai, fysika, me thn anodo ths syspeirwshs toy, na diamorfwsei toys oroys gia th nikh stis ekloges toy 2004, me thn ejantlhsh ths tetraetias.

IWANNOY: Den akyrwnoyn, kati tetoies frastikes epiqeseis, to "deipno symfiliwshs", alla kai oles tis alles prospaqeies poy kanete;

PRWTOPAPAS: To "deipno symfiliwshs" htan atyph synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs.

IWANNOY: Nai, alla katelhje se kapoia politikh symfwnia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Katelhje se mia seira symperasmatwn ta opoia einai safh.

Symperasma prwto: Staqera prowqoyme toys stoxoys mas, stoys opoioys symfwnhsame.

Symperasma deytero: Ektimhsame oti to PASOK exei plhrh politikh yperoxh -kai enanti ths N.D.- kai olh th dynatothta na antapokriqei plhrws stis prosdokies toy ellhnikoy laoy.

Symperasma trito: Me thn epityxia toy ergoy mas exoyme olh th dynatothta na eimaste oi telikoi nikhtes stis ekloges toy Maioy toy 2004.

IWANNOY: Egw rwthsa, ean "torpilizei" ayto to "moratorioym" o k. Pagkalos.

PRWTOPAPAS: Pisteyw oti sas apanthsa.

KARELIAS: As afhsoyme ta deipna kai ta symperasmata. Einai dynato na mas lete pws ayto poy leei o k. Pagkalos einai prosynedriakos problhmatismos; Eseis, ti apantate; O Prwqypoyrgos xrhsimopoiei stelexh ta opoia droyn me tropo parakratiko; Giati ayto akribws leei o k. Pagkalos. Se ayto qeloyme apanthsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa, hdh, oti to endiaferon mas estiazetai sthn prowqhsh ths doyleias mas, na prowqhsoyme to ergo mas, na antapokriqoyme stis prosdokies toy ellhnikoy laoy. Den pisteyw oti qa htan swsto na diaxyqoyme se mia seira apanthsewn kai sxoliwn kata stelexwn mas. Koitoyme mprosta, koitoyme th doyleia mas. Ayth kai monon ayth mas krinei.

MPOTWNHS: Ara, afoy ayto einai prosynedriako, na perimenoyme th Deytera dhladh kapoio sxoliasmo gia ton k. Pagkalo h kapoioys alloys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa kai hmoyn safhs, poio einai to kyrio endiaferon mas kai poy einai to kentro ths politikhs gia mas. Yparxei h politikh -kai emeis qa kanoyme politikh- kai politikh shmainei ergo, idees, apoceis kai bebaiws prajh. Ekei strefoyme to endiaferon mas. O poliths ayta gnwrizei kai ayta krinei. Apo ekei qa dwsei h den qa dwsei thn chfo toy kai oxi apo otidhpote allo. Na eiste bebaios gi` ayto.

GKROMAN: Mia erwthsh sxetika me thn apofash ths Olomeleias toy Areioy Pagoy gia tis germanikes apozhmiwseis: O Areios Pagos eipe oti einai qema ths kybernhshs kai sygkekrimena toy ypoyrgoy Dikaiosynhs ws politikoy proistamenoy, na apofasisei an oi apozhmiwseis poy exoyn ekdikastei qa apodoqoyn me thn katasxesh kapoiwn germanikwn stoixeiwn. Poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs sxetika me ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa doyme thn apofash, qa th melethsoyme kai qa sas enhmerwsoyme. Den biazomaste se ayta ta zhthmata. Katalabainete poly kala oti einai leptes ypoqeseis.

Sas eyxaristw.


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