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Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-07-15

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 15 Ioylioy 2002

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Qa sas dwsw mono to ayriano programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, epeidh h enhmerwtikh synanthsh qa ginei to apogeyma.

Ayrio stis 11 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me tis politikes hgesies twn ypoyrgeiwn Dhmosias Tajhs, Eqnikhs Amynas, Politismoy, me qema thn asfaleia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Qa metexoyn oi kyrioi Xrysoxoidhs kai Malesios apo to ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs, Papantwnioy kai Lwtidhs apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas, Benizelos, Aleyras kai Kartalhs Genikos Grammateas apo to ypoyrgeio Politismoy kai Giannitshs, ypoyrgos anaplhrwths Ejwterikwn.

Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa synedriasei h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph gia to Syntonismo ths Olympiakhs Proetoimasias (DESOP).

Stis 7 to apogeyma, qa synedriasei to epikoinwniako epiteleio, to atypo organo kybernhshs-kommatos gia ta epikoinwniaka qemata.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Sas diefyge oti shmera einai h epeteios....

PRWTOPAPAS: Den moy diefyge.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: En pash periptwsei, shmera einai h epeteios toy prajikophmatos kata toy Proedroy Makarioy. Den jerw ean qelete na kanete mia dhlwsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti gia thn epeteio aytoy toy prajikophmatos den kanoyme dhlwseis. Me enhmerwsan oti istorika etsi ginetai. Oi dhlwseis ginontai gia thn apokatastash ths Dhmokratias, ths opoias h epeteios einai thn epomenh ebdomada. Ara, den moy diefyge. Bebaiws, den prepei na paraleicw, efoson me rwtate, na qymisw oti h energeia ekeinh katadikasthke apo to synolo toy politikoy kosmoy. Gnwrizoyme oloi oti ayto to prajikophma anoije to dromo gia tis tragikes ejelijeis poy epakoloyqhsan. Me ayth thn ennoia, h katadikh toy poy egine kai tote apo olo ton politiko kosmo ths Elladas, isxyei pantote kai me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo. Ayto ta leei ola. H Ellada synergazetai pantote me thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia kai tis politikes hgesies ths kai twra me ton Proedro Klhridh kai thn kybernhsh ths Kyproy, prokeimenoy na diekdikhsoyme thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy, sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE, pantote me dikaiosynh kai biwsimothta.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Pws blepete tis ejelijeis sthn Toyrkia; Pisteyete oti qa exoyme problhmata sto Kypriako kai sthn entajiakh poreia ths Kyproy; Ayth h nea kybernhsh poy kyoforeitai ypo ton k. Tzem qa dyskolecei h qa dieykolynei ta pragmata, ean ayto ginei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Parakoloyqoyme me pollh prosoxh tis ejelijeis sth geitona xwra. Ayto einai apolyta fysiologiko. Gnwrizete, omws, oti oyte exoyme kai oyte qeloyme na exoyme thn opoiadhpote parembash -kai den to kanoyme pote, estw kai me emmeso tropo- sta eswterika mias allhs xwras. Ekeino poy ekfrazoyme ws eyxh, pantote, einai h Toyrkia na synexisei thn poreia ths pros thn Eyrwph, ayth thn opoia h idia exei diakhryjei. Nomizw oti ayto einai kalo kai gia thn idia thn Toyrkia, alla kai gia thn Ellada, ws geitona xwra kai gia thn idia thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

TAKHS: O prwhn presbhs k. Nails, me dhlwseis toy sto BBC epanhlqe se ayto to gnwsto senario peri stelexwn toy PAK poy exoyn sxesh me th ``17N''. Pws to sxoliazete ayto kai malista otan erxetai sthn epifaneia se mia krisimh kai arketa fortismenh periodo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prokeitai gia asteiothtes. Bebaiws, den ektimw oti xreiazetai na antimetwpisoyme idiaitera sobara ayth thn katastash, oyte mporei h ellhnikh kybernhsh na asxolhqei me kati poy leei enas prwhn leitoyrgos -kai syntajioyxos- mias allhs xwras. Qelw me thn eykairia na qymisw oti h epishmh apoch twn HPA exei ekfrastei me epaneilhmmenes dhlwseis toy presbh k. Tomas Miler.

IWANNOY: Epeidh den einai h prwth fora poy o k. Nails kanei dhlwseis tetoioy periexomenoy, mhpws qa eprepe h kybernhsh na asxolhqei, dedomenoy oti ayth th stigmh exoyme kai xeiropiastes apodeijeis, mexri stigmhs toylaxiston, apo ta stoixeia poy jeroyme gia th ``17N''; Synepws, me bash ta stoixeia poy exoyme poy pia einai apodeijeis kai oxi endeijeis, mhpws qa eprepe na apanthsoyme, dioti ola ayta jerete oti planwntai kata kairoys, oles aytes oi fhmes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme apanthsei se aytes tis fhmes poy den einai pantote fhmes kai se aytes tis dhlwseis poy eixan ginei kata kairoys. Den exei kaqoloy ajia na ginontai apo anqrwpoys poy den ekfrazoyn kati. Dystyxws, moy dinete thn eykairia na qymisw oti exoyn ginei kai apo stelexh, poy ekfrazoyn h poy epiqymoyn na ekfrasoyn politikes apoceis sth xwra mas, orismenwn politikwn kommatwn. Einai gnwsto malista oti kai prosfata akomh -eytyxws oxi tis teleytaies hmeres- yphrjan tetoies ypainiktikes dhlwseis apo kapoia stelexh toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Nomizw oti ayta den einai mono katadikastea, alla kai qlibera pragmata. Einai idiaitera eyxaristo oti tis teleytaies hmeres to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs exei allajei taktikh kai emfanizei mia allh eikona poy den aphxei h den prowqei tetoies apoceis. Kai se ayto nomizw oti kaneis den mporei na diafwnhsei. Omws, qelw na qymisw oti kata kairoys ayta ta pragmata exoyn eipwqei. Fysika ta katadikazoyme kai nomizw oti oi idies oi ejelijeis apodeiknyoyn poso ewla, ayqaireta kai epikindyna einai. Kaneis den exei dikaiwma na enoxopoiei, me ton pio aparadekto tropo, oyte ton politiko mas xwro, oyte ton eyrytero xwro ths aristeras, gyrw apo tetoia zhthmata. Olo ayto to skhniko poy orismenoi epixeirhsan na sthsoyn, exei me ton pio patagwdh tropo katarreysei. Bebaiws, den mporei h ellhnikh kybernhsh na asxolhqei idiaitera me tis dhlwseis kapoioy syntajioyxoy, idiwth, alloy kratoys, oi opoies mono me th lejh ``anohsies'' mporoyn na antimetwpistoyn.

KONTOPOYLOS: Shmera, dhmosieyetai h plhroforia oti o katazhtoymenos, anazhtoymenos, telos pantwn, kyrios Koyfontinas exei yphrethsei sthn Astynomia kai sthn EYP. Sxetizetai kata oiondhpote tropo h exei sxetistei sto parelqon to en logw proswpo me dhmosia yphresia asfaleias ths xwras mas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Me sygxwreite, alla pragmatika den mporw na parakoloyqhsw ayta ta senaria. Arnoymai na ta sxoliasw. Ean mpoyme ki edw sthn parafilologia twn hmerwn, fobamai oti qa odhghqoyme se epikindynes atrapoys. Epomenws, qa parakaloysa poly na meinoyme mono sthn epishmh kai swsth enhmerwsh poy ginetai apo tis armodies arxes, kaqe fora poy exoyn kati kainoyrgio na mas poyn kai na mhn afhnoyme th fantasia mas na kalpazei, dystyxws, oxi dhmioyrgika, dhmioyrgwntas senaria, ta opoia omws, en synexeia, otan blepoyn to fws ths dhmosiothtas, mallon sygxysh kai problhmata prokaloyn, para symballoyn sth sobarh antimetwpish mias tetoias ypoqeshs, opws apaiteitai. H antimetwpish ths tromokratias einai ena qema poy afora olh thn ellhnikh koinwnia, afora oloys toys Ellhnes. To qema ths asfaleias twn politwn einai idiaitera shmantiko. To qema ths antimetwpishs ths tromokratias qa wfelhsei idiaitera th xwra mas kai th dieqnh eikona ths. Bebaiws, qa empedwsei kai ena klima asfaleias stoys polites kai oti h Ellada einai mia apo tis pio asfaleis xwres ston kosmo. Gi` ayto exoyme oloi symferon. Ayth th stigmh, briskomaste se enan kalo dromo. Exoyme mpei se mia periodo poy elpizoyme oti me th swsth doyleia poy ginetai qa odhghsei se plhrh ejarqrwsh ths tromokratias sthn patrida mas. Alla, einai ena qema poy xreiazetai prosoxh kai sobarothta. Exei dromo akomh. To koybari molis twra exei arxisei na jetyligetai. Katalabainoyme poly kala oti xreiazetai mia ypeyqynh kai sobarh stash kai oxi anaptyjh senariwn, parafilologias kai entypwsewn. Oxi to emporio qeamatos, poy akomh ws ena shmeio, dystyxws, parakoloyqoyme se orismena Mesa.

MPOTWNHS: Epibebaiwnei h kybernhsh thn kataqesh Jhroy kai ta osa grafontai tis teleytaies wres kai akoygontai apo ta MME;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai dynaton, h kybernhsh na epibebaiwsei kati poy den gnwrizei; Thn kataqesh Jhroy, toylaxiston sto metro poy exei fqasei mexri ayth th stigmh, th gnwrizoyn mono, oi armodies eisaggelikes arxes kai kanenas allos. Oi eisaggelikes arxes den einai ypoxrewmenes na enhmerwnoyn thn kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, toylaxiston mexri to shmeio ekeino poy qa fqasoyn sthn wra ths ekdoshs twn porismatwn toys.

KARGOYDH: Sxetika me tis dhlwseis toy k. Nails qa hqela na rwthsw. Dedomenoy oti yphrje kai synexizei na yparxei mia stenh synergasia metajy amerikanikwn kai ellhnikwn arxwn gia thn tromokratia, exete katalhjei sto symperasma oti o k. Miler exei aporricei tis ekdoxes, tis aities kai tis rizes ths tromokratias toy k. Nails;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safeis oi dhlwseis twn ekproswpwn ths kybernhshs twn HPA kai toy presbeyth twn HPA sthn Ellada k. Tomas Miler kai den xwroyn kamia amfisbhthsh kai parermhneia. Ekfrazoyme thn ikanopoihsh mas gi` aytes tis dhlwseis kai epanalambanw oti einai adynato na parakoloyqhsoyme tis anohsies poy kata kairoys leei o k. Nails, me thn idiothta bebaiws toy aploy idiwth.

ALEJAKHS: To teleytaio diasthma kai prin apo ligo se mia synenteyjh Typoy poy organwse o Synaspismos, ekfrazetai mia anhsyxia koinwnikwn forewn gia thn thrhsh ths nomimothtas mesa apo to dilhmma, asfaleia panw ap` ola h katadikh ths tromokratias, dhladh kati antistoixo poy isxyei kai sthn Amerikh. Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs, se sxesh me ayth thn anhsyxia kinhsewn politwn gia thn thrhsh ths nomimothtas, se sxesh kai me th diadikasia poy threitai sto qema Jhroy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme diabebaiwsei oloys toys endiaferomenoys, me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo -to idio kanw kai shmera- oti throyntai apolyta, se oles aytes tis diadikasies, osa problepontai apo to Syntagma, toys nomoys kai apo th baqia pisth mas sthn ennoia toy kratoys Dikaioy. Threitai plhrws h nomoqesia se olh ayth th diadikasia. Ayth, an qelete, einai kai h yperoxh ths Dhmokratias mas, enanti tetoiwn logikwn poy anaptyssontai, eite apo toys tromokrates, eite apo opoiondhpote poy oysiastika thn amfisbhtei. H yperoxh ths Dhmokratias mas einai oti throyntai oi nomoi, oi diatajeis toy Syntagmatos mas kai h ennoia toy kratoys Dikaioy, kati to opoio o opoiosdhpote tromokraths, me tis prajeis kai tis logikes toy, amfisbhtei.

ALEJAKHS: Yphrje kapoia ejelijh meta th synanthsh me toys ergazomenoys synadelfoys toy PLANET kai toy TEMPO;

PRWTOPAPAS: Toys synanthsa to prwi, mazi me ekproswpoys ths ESHEA kai ths POESY. Qa hqela na jekaqarisw oti to Ypoyrgeio Typoy & MME einai armodio gia th nomimothta sta qemata ths diafaneias toy radiothleoptikoy topioy. Toys eipa oti oles oi xronikes proqesmies, poy me symfwnia ths ESHEA kai ths POESY doqhkan gia na breqei lysh, exoyn ejantlhqei kai prepei na proxwrhsoyme se plhrh kai aparegklith efarmogh toy nomoy kai twn kanonistikwn prajewn. Oysiastika symfwnhsame se kati tetoio. Qa yparjei, loipon, epikoinwnia mas me to ESR gia na doyme poy briskontai oi ereynes toy. Eimaste diateqeimenoi na proxwrhsoyme se plhrh efarmogh twn diatajewn toy nomoy, gyrw apo thn ypoqesh. Doqhkan oles oi anagkaies xronikes proqesmies gia thn ejeyresh lyshs, me metabibash twn epixeirhsewn h en pash periptwsei me eisroh kefalaiwn. Mexri ayth th stigmh, den exoyme kamia ejelijh. To Ypoyrgeio Typoy den mporei na synexisei -paroti ayto eixe symfwnhqei kai me toys ergazomenoys- na dinei proqesmies. Einai safes oti yparxoyn nomoi kai qa thrhqoyn aparegklita.

IWANNOY: Mhpws mporeite na mas peite, epeidh diabazoyme tis teleytaies hmeres gia ton k. Koyfontina, an ton exei entopisei h Astynomia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai dynaton o opoiosdhpote Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos na gnwrizei ti ginetai me tis epixeirhseis kai thn ereyna ths Astynomias; Kai den prepei na gnwrizei.

MOYRTZHS: Mporeite na mas plhroforhsete, ean eystaqei to reportaz oti o k. Diwths edwse ston k. Jhro mia fwtografia toy feromenoy ws arxhgoy, h opoia einai ayth poy skiagrafhse h ERT se reportaz; Dhladh, 63 xronwn, chlos 1.90, kaqhghths panepisthmioy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw topoqethqei idiaitera sklhra panw se aytes tis praktikes, opws jerete, me apotelesma merikoi synadelfoi sas oi opoioi synhqizoyn na diylizoyn ton kwnwpa kai na katapinoyn thn kamhlo, na exoyn antidrasei kai na me exoyn kathgorhsei oti parembainw. Poly kala epraja kai ekana tis dhlwseis kai ths Paraskeyhs kai ths Deyteras kai ths Triths. Htan epibeblhmeno, dioti pisteyw oti ta mhnymata exoyn doqei pros oles tis kateyqynseis. Ejalloy, htan apolyta mesa sto plaisio twn nomwn kai ths dikaiodosias poy yparxei. Pisteyw oti oloi exoyn katalabei, pleon, oti prepei se ayta ta zhthmata na epideiknyoyme thn anagkaia kai stoixeiwdh sobarothta.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Qa hqela ena sxolio gia to xqesino dhmosieyma ths KAQHMERINHS, symfwna me to opoio h INTRAKOM kai h Siemens , me empisteytikes protaseis toys, zhtoyn symbaseis poy sthn oysia toys epitrepoyn ton elegxo toy OTE, me metatajeis proswpikoy kai allages systhmatwn. Symfwnei politika h kybernhsh me mia tetoia ejelijh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa hqela na jekaqarisw pros oles tis kateyqynseis oti h kybernhsh, sto metro bebaiws poy askei -oxi pia epopteia opws gnwrizete- thn opoia genikoterh epirroh ths ws metoxos kai oxi ws politikos proistamenos h parembainoysa sta qemata toy OTE, opws eipwqhke prin, exei jekaqarisei apolyta th stash ths. Pisteyw oti se ayta ta zhthmata yparxei kai safestath topoqethsh kai apo ta pio epishma xeilh. H proqesh mas einai na synexisei o OTE th dikh toy anaptyjiakh kai aytonomh poreia. Den yparxei tipota apo osa eixan akoystei kai graftei, kata kairoys. Emeis qeloyme enan OTE poy qa proxwrhsei me tis dikes toy dynameis sthn agora kai ston eyrytero xwro ths balkanikhs. Den yparxei, apo thn kybernhsh toylaxiston, kanenas allos sxediasmos, ejw apo aytes tis kentrikes kateyqynseis. Malista, einai kai prosfates oi ejaggelies oti meta thn teleytaia ekxwrhsh paketoy metoxwn poy egine, den qa mpei kai qesmikos ependyths ston OTE. Ayth einai h genikoterh kybernhtikh apoch kai apotypwnei th qelhsh mas pragmatika se ayto ton tomea. Gia eidika qemata, qa rwthsoyme kai qa sas apanthsoyme. Alla, h genikh politikh kateyqynsh mas ston OTE einai ayth kai pisteyw oti mas kalyptei oloys, panta me thn idiothta toy metoxoy bebaiws, giati opws gnwrizete o OTE leitoyrgei ws anwnymh etairia.

Sas eyxaristw.


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