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Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-11-01

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 1 Noembrioy 2002

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Na arxisw me ena qlibero aggelma, oti peqane xqes o tews Proedros ths Dhmokratias Mixalhs Stasinopoylos. O Mixalhs Stasinopoylos gennhqhke to 1903 kai ystera apo spoydes sth Nomikh Sxolh toy Panepisthmioy Aqhnwn, eishlqe sto Symboylio ths Epikrateias, toy opoioy dietelese Proedros. Prohdreyse, malista, se synedriaseis poy ejedwsan, kata th diarkeia ths diktatorias, tis istorikes apofaseis, oi opoies akyrwsan prajeis twn diktatorwn, enantion dikastikwn leitoyrgwn. Aytos htan kai o logos gia ton opoio h diktatoria ton apelyse apo to StE. O Mixalhs Stasinopoylos dietelese kaqhghths kai prytanhs toy Panteioy Panepisthmioy, akadhmaikos kai Proedros ths Akadhmias Aqhnwn, enw kosmhse kai thn ellhnikh logotexnia, kyriws me poihmata kai dokimia poy paramenoyn klasika. As einai h mnhmh toy aiwnia. H ellhnikh Politeia toy apotiei ton ofeilomeno foro timhs kai mnhmhs. H khdeia toy tews Proedroy ths Dhmokratias qa ginei th Deytera.

Meta apo synennohsh me ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs Kwsta Skandalidh, qelw na tonisw oti den einai epikairh h syzhthsh gyrw apo ton eklogiko nomo. Ejalloy, oyte h kybernhsh einai etoimh na anoijei ena dialogo, gyrw apo ena toso sobaro zhthma. Yparxoyn ayth th stigmh alles proteraiothtes. Ws gnwston, to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn prowqei ena ploysio nomoqetiko ergo se seira qematwn, poy apasxoloyn to dhmosio bio. Gnwrizete oti briskomaste, ayth th stigmh, sth fash ths syzhthshs kai chfishs toy nomosxedioy gia to Geniko Epiqewrhth Dhmosias Dioikhshs. Epikeitai h oloklhrwsh ths doyleias toy ypoyrgeioy gia ton Kwdika Topikhs Aytodioikhshs, poy einai ena poly megalo ergo. Proetoimazetai, epishs, seira allwn nomoqetikwn parembasewn. Bebaiws, sto plaisio ths syzhthshs gia thn poiotikh anabaqmish toy politikoy mas systhmatos, yparxei sto mellon kai to qema toy eklogikoy nomoy. Alla, den einai gi ayth thn periodo. Den einai epikairh ayth h syzhthsh shmera. Oyte exei etoimastei, oyte yparxei, oyte sxediazetai kapoia parembash h sxedio nomoy poy na afora ton eklogiko nomo. Kai se ayto qelw na eimaste apolytws safeis.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PITTARAS: Pws eidate xqes to pano poy anarthsan Toyrkoi filaqloi sto ghpedo me ton Mwameq ton Porqhth kai thn hmeromhnia ths alwshs ths Polhs;

PRWTOPAPAS : Moy dinete thn eykairia na pw oti yphrje mia idiaitera shmantikh stigmh me thn paroysia toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn, toy ypoyrgoy Politismoy kai toy yfypoyrgoy Politismoy armodioy gia qemata Aqlhtismoy, kaqws epishs kai Toyrkwn epishmwn, se enan podosfairiko agwna, poy htan eykairia gia mia symbolikh koinh paroysia, poy qa edine ton tono ths koinhs qelhshs twn dyo lawn gia mia poreia allhleggyhs kai symporeyshs sto mellon. Exoyme pei oti den mas xwrizei tipota apo ton toyrkiko lao kai oti oles tis kinhseis, estw kai symbolikes, poy dinoyn ton tono ths filias, ths synergasias kai ths kalhs geitonias, emeis tis qewroyme idiaitera shmantikes. Ayto hqele na tonisei kai h xqesinh paroysia ths ellhnikhs antiproswpeias, me epikefalhs ypoyrgoys, ston xqesino podosfairiko agwna. Einai, pragmati, krima oti yphrjan memonwmenoi opadoi kai twn dyo omadwn -kai se kamia periptwsh oi epishmes omades, pragma poy mporw na to diabebaiwsw, idiaitera gia ton epishmo Panaqhnaiko- oi opoioi proebhsan stis asxhmies poy eidame. Ekfrazoyme th baqia lyph mas gi aytes tis antilhceis, poy diakrinoyn ayta ta stoixeia. Se kamia periptwsh, omws, den prepei na taytisoyme, eite toys laoys, eite kai to synolo twn filaqlwn poy htan xqes sto ghpedo me tis aparadektes aytes kinhseis twn memonwmenwn stoixeiwn, opadwn kai twn dyo omadwn. Einai safes oti toso apo thn ellhnikh, oso kai apo thn toyrkikh kybernhsh epidiwxqhke ayth h symbolikh kinhsh poy qa tonize th qelhsh twn dyo lawn na synergastoyn. Einai safes oti analoges kinhseis eginan kai apo tis dyo omades kai eidika apo ton epishmo Panaqhnaiko. To xairetizoyme ayto. Kai bebaiws qelw na pisteyw oti ayth htan kai h qelhsh ths syntriptikhs pleiochfias twn oswn breqhkan ekei.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa hqela na sxoliasete tis dhlwseis poy eginan sthn Kwnstantinoypolh, toso apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias, meta th synanthsh poy eixe me ton k. Papandreoy, o opoios eipe kaqara kai jastera, oti den dexomaste sxedio lyshs apo to Geniko Grammatea toy OHE, alla kai thn allh periergh dhlwsh, thn opoia ekane o omologos toy k. Benizeloy, o opoios eipe oti den prokeitai na syntajidecoyme sthn E.E. oi toyrkokyprioi me toys ellhnokyprioys kai oti emeis qa mpoyme se takth hmeromhnia, monoi mas endexomenws. Qelw, epishs, na moy peite, ean thn ejwterikh politikh kai to Kypriako to xeirizetai o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, o opoios parabreqhke ontws ekei h to askoyn twra kai oi aqlhtikoi ypoyrgoi, oi ypoyrgoi Politismoy. Giati den katalabainw giati o k. Benizelos syzhthse to Kypriako me ton omologo toy, toy Aqlhtismoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai etsi. O k. Benizelos ekane mia anafora, kata th diarkeia mias koinhs paroysias. Ejefrase thn aisiodojia toy kai se sxesh me thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias, alla kai -ean apodidw kala tis dhlwseis toy- ypogrammise oti h poreia entajhs ths Kyproy sthn E.E., qa einai wfelimh kai gia thn idia thn Toyrkia. Emeis exoyme pei oti h poreia entajhs ths Kyproy kai h dieyrynsh ths E.E. einai bebaiws wfelimh gia thn E.E., einai wfelimh gia thn Kypro, alla se kamia periptwsh -kai einai swsto ayto- den shmainei oti dhmioyrgei kati kako gia thn Toyrkia. Einai wfelimh kai gia thn idia thn Toyrkia, h opoia qelei th dikh ths eyrwpaikh poreia. Kai emeis sthrizoyme thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias. Gnwrizete poly kala tis prwtoboylies poy exei analabei o k. Papandreoy. Den blepw, loipon, na dhmioyrgeitai kapoio qema, otan tonizoyme mia pagia qesh mas. Den yparxei kanena zhthma gyrw apo ayto. Apo kei kai pera, yphrje, pragmati, mia seira dhlwsewn apo Toyrkoys paragontes. Einai safes oti exoyme teleiws allh apoch. Einai safes oti diafwnoyme. Alla, nomizw oti ekeino poy exoyme na kanoyme, ayth th stigmh, einai na synexisoyme th doyleia mas, enhmerwnontas th Dieqnh Koinothta gia tis qeseis mas, toso gia thn entajh ths Kyproy, oso kai gia thn epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos, poy einai dyo diaforetika pragmata kai kaneis den ta symchfizei, apo thn ellhnikh kai thn kypriakh pleyra. Bebaiws, prepei na eimaste etoimoi, wste na topoqethqoyme ypeyqyna kai me sobarothta, ean o k. Kofi Anan proxwrhsei sthn kataqesh sxedioy gia thn epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy. Apo kei kai pera, emeis prepei na koitame th dikh mas stash, th dikh mas poreia kai th dhmioyrgia qetikwn sysxetismwn sth Dieqnh Koinothta, yper twn dikwn mas apocewn. Kai ayto kanoyme se stenh synergasia me thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia.

PITTARAS: Qelw na epanelqw sto prohgoymeno qema: Ta osa synebhsan xqes ston agwnistiko xwro, prin h ligo meta thn enarjh toy agwna, apotimwntai apo thn kybernhsh ws ena qetiko shmadi gia thn koinh diorganwsh apo thn Ellada kai thn Toyrkia toy Paneyrwpaikoy Prwtaqlhmatos;

PRWTOPAPAS; Ayta ta memonwmena stoixeia poy breqhkan stoys kolpoys twn opadwn kai twn dyo omadwn, stoixeia ta opoia se kamia periptwsh den ekfrazoyn oyte th syntriptikh pleiochfia twn opadwn toys, oyte propantwn tis epishmes omades -kai eidika oson mas afora ton epishmo Panaqhnaiko- den prepei na ta afhsoyme na dhmioyrghsoyn ena klima, poy qa enteinei tis opoies arnhtikes katastaseis anamesa stoys dyo laoys. Einai gnwsto oti oi podosfairikes Omospondies, ths Elladas kai ths Toyrkias, exoyn apofasisei na proxwrhsoyn sth syndiorganwsh toy Eyrwpaikoy Prwtaqlhmatos Podosfairoy (EURO 2008). Einai gnwsto oti oi kybernhseis, kaq` oson tis afora bebaiws, exoyn staqei qetika se ayth thn aithsh twn dyo podosfairikwn omospondiwn. Kai bebaiws, ekeino poy mporoyme na poyme einai oti h syntriptikh pleiochfia kai twn Ellhnwn -kai elpizoyme- kai twn Toyrkwn filaqlwn, qa einai strammenes qetika pros ayth thn prooptikh. Qelw na tonisw oti einai anamfibola qetiko gegonos oti xqes, gia paradeigma, kai oi dyo omades, dia twn epishmwn ekproswpwn toys -o Panaqhnaikos dia toy Proedroy toy- ypegracan thn Olympiakh Ekexeiria. Kai ayto anamfibola einai ena poly shmantiko gegonos.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxoyn kapoies plhrofories poy lene oti eixe enhmerwqei o epishmos Panaqhnaikos, oti kapoia eqnikistika, akraia stoixeia qa efqanan sthn Kwnstantinoypolh gia na dhmioyrghsoyn kapoia problhmata kai malista kai stis dyo armodies yphresies, kai twn Aqhnwn kai ths Agkyras, eixe fqasei ayth h plhroforia. Exoyme kati;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na jerw poies plhrofories yphrjan. Ekeino poy qelw na pw einai oti pantote yphrxan tetoioi foboi. Gi ayto eixe yparjei, ek twn proterwn, epishmh kinhsh toy Panaqhnaikoy. Fantazomai oti to idio ekane kai h allh omada. Kai oti bebaiws eixe ginei prospaqeia na lhfqoyn ola ta anagkaia metra. Twra, ean yparxoyn kapoioi elaxistoi, oi opoioi ek proqesews prokaloyn ayta ta aparadekta fainomena, nomizw oti ekeino poy prepei na kanoyme oloi mas einai na toys apomonwsoyme kai na mhn epitrecoyme thn epanalhch paromoiwn lyphrwn kai aparadektwn gegonotwn. Den mporei kapoioi anegkefaloi na diamorfwnoyn ena arnhtiko klima kai malista xwris na yparxei kanenas logos.

PITTARAS: Lete oti yparxei mia aisiodojia apo thn kybernhsh kai mia qetikh stash twn dyo omospondiwn kai twn dyo kybernhsewn, gyrw apo th syndiorganwsh. Wstoso, den jerw an sas problhmatizei to gegonos oti apo xqes ola ta dieqnh MME anametadidoyn aytes tis eikones kai tis skhnes@

PRWTOPAPAS: Anamfibola mas problhmatizei. H epidiwjh, allwste, aytwn twn oligwn htan ayth. Kai h kinhsh aytwn twn oligwn -twn memonwmenwn opadwn kai twn dyo omadwn poy den eixan sxesh me tis epishmes omades- htan, opws qa legame, "na rijoyn ladi sth fwtia", na dhmioyrghsoyn problhmata. Problhmata kai stis sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn kai lawn, alla kai se sxesh me thn protash syndiorganwshs. Gi` ayto akribws den prepei na akoloyqhsoyme ayth th logikh, alla na apomonwsoyme ayta ta stoixeia. Prepei na jekaqarisoyme oti, toso o ellhnikos, oso kai o toyrkikos laos qeloyn mia poreia kalhs geitonias kai synergasias, alla kai eidikotera sto sygkekrimeno qema th syndiorganwsh toy eyrwpaikoy prwtaqlhmatos. Exei ekfrastei ayto apo oles tis pleyres kai exei epikrothqei h apofash ayth twn dyo podosfairikwn omospondiwn. Kai to epishmainw giati se aytes, bebaiws, anhkei h apofash.

PEGKOS: Me dedomenh th syzhthsh poy egine olo ayto to teleytaio diasthma, meta tis nomarxiakes kai dhmotikes ekloges, gia thn emfanish ths akrodejias sth xwra mas, fobatai h kybernhsh oti sto epanalhptiko paixnidi einai dynato na emfanistoyn tetoies omades gia "antipoina", meta apo osa synebhsan xqes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pisteyw oti qa ginoyn oles oi anagkaies synennohseis kai me ton Panaqhnaiko, alla kai me tis armodies arxes, prokeimenoy tetoia fainomena na mhn emfanistoyn. Den einai dynaton, omws, na askeitai prolhptikos elegxos gia to ti qa kanoyn polles xiliades anqrwpoi. Einai, allwste, kai qema toy ti aisqanetai o kaqenas. Poso, dhladh, yparxei to aisqhma eyqynhs ston kaqe filaqlo. Prepei na katalaboyn oloi -kai toys kaloyme na staqoyn me idiaiterh sobarothta kai eyqynh- oti kaqe energeia -h opoia xwris na yparxei kanenas logos- dhmioyrgei problhmata stis sxeseis kalhs geitonias kai synergasias twn dyo xwrwn kai lawn, kaqe energeia poy mporei na mas ekqesei dieqnws kai kaqe energeia poy mporei na dhmioyrghsei problhmata ekei poy den prepei na yparxoyn einai, oxi apla lanqasmenh, alla einai energeia aparadekth. Oloi prepei na ekfrasoyme thn antiqesh mas. Na apomonwsoyme ek twn proterwn kaqe proqesh, kaqe tetoio stoixeio.

PITTARAS: Eipate gia kapoioys oi opoioi, endexomenws qeloyn "na rijoyn ladi sth fwtia". Mhpws kai h kinhsh toy k. Papandreoy na mpei ston agwnistiko xwro kai na perpathsei to bohqhse;

PRWTOPAPAS: To antiqeto. Htan mia symbolikh, bebaiws, alla qetikh kinhsh.

GEROPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean isxyei h desmeysh ths kybernhshs oti stis arxes ths Anoijhs toy 2003 qa arxisei h syzhthsh gia ton eklogiko nomo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw topoqethqei. Eipa oti ayth th stigmh h syzhthsh einai anepikairh, oti prohgoyntai alles oysiastikes nomoqetikes parembaseis poy qa kanei to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn kai oti sto plaisio ths genikoterhs anabaqmishs toy politikoy systhmatos mas, kapoia stigmh -giati ayth th stigmh den yparxei kapoia etoimothta kai oyte kapoio sxedio epejergazomaste- qa ginoyn kai oi sxetikes epejergasies kai h sxetikh syzhthsh.

GEROPOYLOS: Telika, isxyei h desmeysh gia to xronodiagramma gia thn Anoijh toy 2003, giati, polles fores, exei metateqei ayth h syzhthsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kapoia stigmh thn Anoijh toy 2003 qa jekinhsei h sxetikh epejergasia. Alla, ayth thn wra kaqe syzhthsh einai anepikairh.

Kleinontas, qa hqela na kanw orismenes dieykriniseis:

Prwton, gia to qema twn proeklogikwn sygkentrwsewn, sto opoio anaferetai h ESHEA kai leei oti to prosqesame emeis, den einai etsi. To qema ayto yparxei sto keimeno toy ESR. Se ayto kanei laqos h ESHEA.

Deyteron, to arqro 17 par. 1 einai analogo me th syntagmatikh epitagh toy arqroy 5a toy Syntagmatos. Dhladh, erxetai na prostatecei to dhmosiografo sthn askhsh toy leitoyrghmatos toy kai thn prostasia toy agaqoy ths enhmerwshs. Einai prostateytikoy xarakthra. Me ayth thn ennoia exw rwthsei an kapoioi epiqymoyn na bgei, alla den moy exoyn apanthsei safws.

Triton, an h ESHEA epiqymei synanthsh me to ESR, gyrw apo to qema ths oysias toy Kwdika kai ean to ESR qelei na syzhthsei ton Kwdika Deontologias, den exoyme kamia antirrhsh na toy dwsoyme ton anagkaio xrono. Alla ayto den afora emas. Dhladh, ta 16 arqra einai apofaseis ths anejarthths Arxhs, einai nomimes kai tis sebomaste. Epomenws, egw exw kaqhkon na tis prowqhsw sto StE gia to sxetiko elegxo. An apo ekei kai pera to syndikalistiko organo twn dhmosiografwn qelei na syzhthsei me to ESR ayto to qema, einai kati poy afora thn anejarthth Arxh kai thn ESHEA kai emeis den exoyme kanena logo na paremboyme. Epishs, qelw na tonisw -to eipa kai xqes- oti oi dhmosiografoi ekeinoi poy kanoyn kala th doyleia toys, eite sto radiofwno, eite sthn thleorash, dioti ayth h istoria den afora tis efhmerides, oysiastika den exoyn tipota na fobhqoyn apo thn efarmogh toy Kwdika Deontologias. Yparxoyn polla kanalia kai kyriws polla radiofwna, ta opoia den exoyn tipota na fobhqoyn kai tipota na toys apasxolhsei apo thn efarmogh toy Kwdika deontologias. Qelw na qymisw oti to ellhniko radiofwno diakrinetai gia th sobarothta kai th synepeia toy se ayta ta zhthmata, alla bebaiws yparxoyn kai thleoptikoi staqmoi poy diakrinontai gia thn eyprepeia, th sobarothta kai th synepeia toys. Einai safes oti kai stelexh thleoptikwn staqmwn eixan parei prwtoboylies gia thn aytodesmeysh kai thn poiotikh anabaqmish twn deltiwn eidhsewn kai twn enhmerwtikwn ekpompwn toys. To idio exei ginei kai sthn ERT, kaqws kai se alloys thleoptikoys staqmoys, gia na mh toys adikhsw. Ara, oloi aytoi den exoyn tipota na fobhqoyn. Ekeinoi poy exoyn na fobhqoyn -an mporoyme na poyme ayth th lejh- einai ekeinoi toys opoioys oi idioi oi dhmosiografoi exoyn epaneilhmmena kathgorhsei kai malista me arqra, dhlwseis kai synexeis anafores, oti den sebontai thn ajioprepeia toy anqrwpoy, oti proballoyn th bia kai thn yperbolh, oti katadikazoyn aqwoys, den sebontai idiwtikes stigmes kai oti en pash periptwsei kanoyn ena eidos aqemitoy antagwnismoy poy den tima ena Meso. To tonizw ayto gia na jekaqarisw oti proqesh ths kybernhshs einai na efarmosoyme to arqro 15 toy Syntagmatos kai tipota allo. Dhladh to sebasmo ths anqrwpinhs ajioprepeias. Kai epeidh orismenoi exoyn kanei aytes tis arnhtikes parembaseis, tis opoies oi idioi epishmanate, o monos tropos poy yphrxe htan na prowqhqei o Kwdikas poy den afora to dhmosiografo, alla thn epixeirhsh. Mporei na leitoyrghsei kai prostateytika gia thn askhsh toy leitoyrghmatos toy dhmosiografoy, otan kapoios epixeirhmatias mporei na ton piesei. Exei ginei, opws jerete, polles fores. As to doyme, loipon, apo ayth th skopia. Qelw na ypogrammisw akomh, epeidh eida ena erwthma poy diatypwne enas synadelfos sas se efhmerida, oti o Kwdikas qa efarmostei apo anejarthth Arxh kai oxi apo thn Politeia. Prepei na to qymomaste ayto oloi. Qa ton efarmosei to ESR. Ara, loipon, h kybernhsh oyte logokrisia askei, oyte mporei na askhsei, oyte mporei na parembei. Epomenws, oloi aytoi oi foboi den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Ekeino poy xreiazetai -kata th gnwmh moy- einai na kanoyme oloi oi exontes sxesh me to xwro toy Typoy prwtoi na efarmozoyme tis arxes toy arqroy 15 toy Syntagmatos, kanontas ton aytoelegxo kai thn proswpikh prosarmogh toy o kaqenas, wste se telikh analysh na mhn antimetwpisei ton opoiodhpote elegxo.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.


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