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Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-11-06

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 6 Noembrioy 2002

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Eisagwgika, qa hqela na sas pw oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei, shmera, stis 16.30 topikh wra, synanthsh me to Gallo Proedro k. Zak Sirak, h opoia einai programmatismenh na diarkesei peripoy mia wra kai sth synexeia, me to Gallo Prwqypoyrgo Z. P. Rafaren. Meta to peras ths synanthshs, qa dwsei (peripoy stis 20.00 wra Elladas) synenteyjh Typoy sthn ellhnikh presbeia.

Epishs, qelw na sas pw oti o dieyqynths toy Diplwmatikoy Grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy Presbhs Qeodwros Swthropoylos kai o Symboylos toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn k. Pampoykhs, briskontai apo shmera sthn Agkyra, gia thn proetoimasia (orismos ths hmeromhnias kai kaqorismos ths hmerhsias diatajhs) ths episkechs toy k. Tagip Erntogan sthn Aqhna. H episkech anamenetai na ginei syntoma.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: To qema poy qa syzhthsoyn sthn Agkyra, einai mono to Kypriako h kai alla;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa syzhthsoyn kai qemata genikotera. Gnwrizete oti h xwra mas analambanei thn eyrwpaikh proedria kai o Prwqypoyrgos qa proedreyei toy Symboylioy Koryfhs . Epomenws -opws einai logiko- sth synanthsh ayth qa syzhthqei bebaiws to qema ths Kyproy kai to qema ths entajhs, alla kai genikotera h dieyrynsh ths E.E., zhthmata ths E.E. poy aptontai ths ejwterikhs politikhs - gia paradeigma, opws gnwrizete egine syzhthsh me ton k. Mpler kai gia to Irak - kaqws kai qemata ths Ellhnikhs Proedrias.

GARGALAKOS: Xqes, o epitimos Proedros ths N.D. k. Mhtsotakhs amfisbhthse th boylhsh ths kybernhshs na fqasei thn ejarqrwsh ths tromokratias mexri teloys giati, opws eipe, qa exei politiko kostos gia thn kybernhsh. Exete na peite kati ep` aytoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi xqesines dhlwseis toy epitimoy Proedroy ths N.D. aggijan polla qemata . Qelw kat` arxas na shmeiwsw oti eipe polla kai anamfibola endiaferonta pragmata gyrw apo tis ejelijeis sta qemata ejwterikhs politikhs. Kai ayto nomizw oti einai ena shmeio, se mia idiaitera krisimh epoxh gia ta eqnika qemata mas, poy ofeiloyme qetika na epishmanoyme. Einai mia epoxh poy prepei oles oi politikes dynameis toy topoy, alla kai ola ta politika stelexh poy exoyn enan barynonta logo na symbaloyn sth diathrhsh enos klimatos eqnikhs omocyxias kai sth dynatothta ajiopoihshs apo thn xwra mas twn eykairiwn poy dianoigontai sto dieqnes pedio, gia na antimetwpisei kai na lysei qemata, kata ton kalytero tropo, symfwna me ta eqnika symferonta. Me ayth thn ennoia, lew oti prepei na shmeiwsoyme ws qetiko ayto to gegonos.

Bebaiws, einai safes oti yparxei diafwnia me to meros ekeino twn dhlwsewn toy epitimoy Proedroy ths N.D., to opoio afora thn ejarqrwsh ths tromokratias. Qelw na qymisw oti h kybernhsh toy PASOK, o Prwqypoyrgos k. Shmiths, o ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs k. Xrysoxoidhs kai bebaiws ta alla stelexh, prwtostathsan me epityxia kai eferan apotelesmata ston polemo kata ths tromokratias, ston agwna gia thn ejarqrwsh ths kyrioterhs tromokratikhs organwshs, ths 17N, h opoia droyse sthn Ellada. Ta apotelesmata ayta einai apta. Gi` ayto, qa elega oti einai terastio laqos na epixeiroyme na ta amfisbhtoyme, na ta meiwnoyme kai na dhmioyrgoyme mia skia, h opoia den eprepe na yparxei. H anakrish proxwrei. Oi armodioi dikastikoi leitoyrgoi poy exoyn analabei thn ypoqesh, kanoyn apolyta kai anephreasta to ergo toys. Gnwrizete poly kala oti oi idioi einai poy proxwrhsan se peraiterw anakriseis kai syllhceis proswpwn, poy oi idioi ekrinan. H anakrish proxwrei se baqos. Kai apo thn anakrish ayth, alla kai tis diadikasies poy qa akoloyqhsoyn sth synexeia, qa bgei sto fws olh h alhqeia. Einai terastio laqos na epixeiroyme na amfisbhtoyme, na rixnoyme skies kai, me genikologes anafores, na meiwnoyme thn megalh epityxia, poy einai eqnikh epityxia. Ayto den prepei na ginetai. H ejarqrwsh ths tromokratias einai epityxia poy afora th xwra, epityxia poy afora olo to eqnos, epityxia poy afora th dieqnh eikona mas. Gi` aytoys toys logoys, einai safes oti yparxei diafwnia me tis sxetikes anafores toy k. Mhtsotakh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: O Koinoboyleytikos ekproswpos ths N.D. o k. Paylopoylos, se xqesinh omilia toy, ejefrase anhsyxies oson afora thn poreia toy Kypriakoy kai tonise oti piqanws na odhghqoyme se dixotomhsh ths Kyproy, dhladh na apodexqoyme mia Synomospondia. Ti apantate;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw oti xreiazetai na apanthsw ston k. Paylopoylo.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Oxi ston k. Paylopoylo. Sthn koinh gnwmh@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den xreiazetai. Qa apanthsw stis epishmes anafores ths N.D.. Einai gnwsto oti oi xqesines epishmes anafores ths N.D. den einai se ayth thn kateyqynsh.

GARGALAKOS: O arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, proeblece oti qa xreiasqoyn 80 xronia peripoy gia na fqasoyme sthn pragmatikh sygklish. Eseis ti lete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai oi idioi ypologismoi poy monima kanei o arxhgos ths N.D. Qymizw toys ypologismoys poy eixe kanei, problepontas oti den qa epiteyxqei h sygklish kai den qa mpei h Ellada sto eniaio nomisma. O k. Karamanlhs synhqizei na peftei ejw stis ektimhseis toy gia ta qemata ths oikonomias. Den antilambanetai th dynamikh poy exei anaptyjei h xwra. Den antilambanetai th nea qesh poy exei parei h Ellada stis dieqneis oikonomikes ejelijeis. Prospaqei synexws na meiwnei, na amayrwnei thn eikona ths xwras. Mizera kai mikrocyxa prospaqei na krycei ayto to opoio einai pragmatikothta. Oi probleceis toy k. Karamanlh diakrinontai gia to astoxo toys kai gia th diaceysh toys apo thn idia thn pragmatikothta. Gia mia fora akomh, etsi qa ginei.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na sas rwthsw poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs, giati ginetai pollh syzhthsh. Shmera, esteile o k. Mpoys mia epistolh ston k. Anan, gia to pote prepei na dhmosiopoihqei ayto to sxedio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporei na yparxei mia anhsyxia apo th Dieqnh Koinothta, dikaiologhmenh, alla h apofash gia th dhmosiopoihsh anhkei ston k. Anan. Einai safes ayto.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: H qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs einai na dhmosiopoihqei meta th 15h Noembrioy, meta apo th Synodo ths Kopegxaghs; Oso argotera, toso kalytera; Poia einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh den qa mpei se ena tetoio "gaitanaki". To katalabainete poly kala. H kybernhsh leei oti yparxoyn dyo diadikasies: H mia einai h diadikasia entajhs ths Kyproy sthn E.E., h opoia prepei na proxwrhsei me bash tis prosfates apofaseis twn Bryjellwn. H allh diadikasia einai h epilysh toy Kypriakoy, h opoia bebaiws prepei na proxwrhsei. Den einai qema poy mporei na ekkremei ep` apeiron. Kai se ayto exoyme zhthsei thn parembash toy OHE. O OHE qa kanei thn parembash toy me ton tropo poy qewrei prosforotero kai sto xrono poy qewrei prosforotero, otan einai etoimos kai exei pragmatika na syneisferei kati qetiko. Den qa biasoyme parembaseis, otan ta pragmata, piqanon gia orismenoys, na mhn qewroyntai akomh wrima h na xreiazetai isws kapoios kyklos epejergasiwn ton opoio emeis den gnwrizoyme, ayth th stigmh. Yparxei sobarothta kai eyqynh sth stash mas. Bebaiws, enhmerwnoyme th Dieqnh Koinothta gia tis apoceis mas. Ayto den qa stamathsoyme na to kanoyme. Den menoyme paqhtikoi qeates twn ejelijewn. Synexws parembainoyme kai enhmerwnoyme gia tis qeseis mas. Alla, apo ekei kai pera, eimaste etoimoi na topoqethqoyme, panta se stenh synergasia -kai to tonizw ayto- me thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia kai ton Proedro Gl. Klhridh, molis, opote ki an ginei ayto, opote katateqei kapoia protash apo ton OHE.

Exw pei apo xqes -kai qelw na to epanalabw kai shmera- oti opoiadhpote protash katateqei gia lysh sto Kypriako, sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE, qa einai ejelijh thn opoia kai emeis qa exoyme prokalesei. Dioti, h toyrkikh kai toyrkokypriakh pleyra, opws qymaste, oydepote zhthsan parembash toy OHE sthn kateyqynsh ejeyreshs lyshs, sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy.

Epishs, qelw na pw oti opoiadhpote lysh qa exei kai tis dyo koinothtes. Qa exei thn paroysia kai thn apo koinoy doyleia twn dyo koinothtwn. Kai ayto einai gnwsto oti dhmioyrgei dyskolies. Prepei, omws, na eimaste etoimoi, na symballoyme qetika, gia th qetikh antimetwpish toys. Den qa eimaste monoi mas.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Panw se ayto poy eipate, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, giati o Prwqypoyrgos aisqanqhke xqes thn anagkh na pei oti h xwra mas den qa dexqei opoiadhpote lysh aney orwn, xarh ths entajhs ths Kyproy sthn E.E.. Dhladh, yparxei kati to opoio den to jeroyme; Giati epanelabe ayth thn pagia qesh ths Elladas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Merikes fores xreiazetai na epanalambaneis mia qesh, prokeimenoy na ginetai kalytera katanohth. Ejalloy, qelw na sas qymisw -giati einai orqh h parathrhsh sas- oti prosfata kai o Kyprios Proedros Gl. Klhridhs ekane mia analogh dhlwsh. Merikes fores xreiazetai na epanalambaneis aytes tis pagies qeseis, oytws wste na tis enisxyeis kai na tis kaqistas peraiterw katanohtes gia orismenoys poy piqanon na mhn tis exoyn akomh apodexqei.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Shmera, diabazoyme se kapoies efhmerides oti meletatai ena sxedio na anablhqoyn oi ekloges sthn Kypro kai na synexisei o k. Klhridhs ws proedros h telos pantwn na protaqei o k. Klhridhs kai na einai h monh ypochfiothta meta. Qa hqela th qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs se ayto. Einai se gnwsh ths ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomimopoioymaste gia opoiadhpote parembash sta eswterika zhthmata ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Exei topoqethqei h kypriakh kybernhsh epi toy qematos, k. ypoyrge. An yparjei lysh sto Kypriako, bebaiws mporei na parameinei o k. Klhridhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Afora thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia kai monon ayth. Kanenan allon.

BITALHS: Epeidh, opws katalabainete, yparxei entono, pleon, to endiaferon gia tis ejelijeis, exei ypoch ths h ellhnikh kybernhsh, ean o k. nte Soto, eidikos apestalmenos toy Genikoy Grammatea toy OHE, qa koinopoihsei stoys hgetes twn dyo koinothtwn to sxedio toy, thn Paraskeyh poy qa episkefqei thn Kypro;

PRWTOPAPAS: Akoygontai polla. Alla, emeis den mporoyme na mpoyme se ayth th diadikasia. To sxedio qa koinopoihqei, opote o OHE krinei oti einai etoimo. Kai emeis eimaste etoimoi ana pasa stigmh. Opote ki an koinopoihqei, qa melethqei se stenh synergasia me ton Proedro Klhridh kai qa akoloyqhsoyn oi opoies antidraseis.

BITALHS: Epeidh exei arxisei h antistrofh metrhsh kai gia th Synodo ths Kopegxaghs, an to sxedio katateqei tis epomenes meres, pisteyete oti yparxei eparkes xroniko diasthma gia na breqei mia lysh prin apo thn entajh; Qewreite oti prepei na exei xronika desmeytiko xarakthra ayto to sxedio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den katalabainw gia poio logo syndeete dyo diaforetika metajy toys pragmata.

BITALHS: Oxi egw. Ek twn ejelijewn prokyptoyn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oyte ek twn ejelijewn prokyptoyn. Prepei na jekaqarisoyme kati: Eyktaio einai na yparjei lysh gia to Kypriako, na yparjei mia kat` arxhn symfwnia gia to Kypriako, prin apo th Synodo ths Kopegxaghs. Alla, ayto den mporei na apotelei proypoqesh. Qelw na to katasthsw safes. Prokeitai gia dyo diaforetikes diadikasies. An h mia paei poly kala, dieykolynei kai thn allh. Alla, den mporei na apotelei h mia proypoqesh ths allhs. Se kaqe periptwsh, h entajh prepei na proxwrhsei, symfwna me thn apofash ths Synodoy twn Bryjellwn. Eimai safhs.

IWANNOY: Qelw na rwthsw, poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs sto qema ths paramonhs toy stratoy katoxhs sthn Kypro; An to opoiodhpote sxedio perilambanei paramonh toy stratoy katoxhs sthn Kypro, ayto qa einai kati to opoio emeis qa apaithsoyme na mhn yparxei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Dhmioyrgia eniaias proswpikothtas kai eniaias kyriarxias me jena strateymata, katalabainete oti den ginetai. Einai safes. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, den qa hqela na mpoyme se syzhthsh gia ta alla qemata, pws akribws qa einai h Boylh, ti qa ginei me ton Proedro, poio akribws qa einai to edafos. Einai qemata poy qa syzhthqoyn armodiws. Exoyn syzhthqei polles fores sto parelqon se diaforoys kykloys epafwn poy exoyn ginei. Exoyn anaptyxqei diaforetikes apoceis. Alliws qa eixan symfwnhqei. Ti akribws qa perilambanei to symbibastiko, ek twn pragmatwn, sxedio toy OHE, qa to doyme otan erqei. Den biazomaste. Giati, blepw kai diafora dhmosieymata poy anaptyssoyn erwthmata an to sxedio qa einai sth mia h thn allh kateyqynsh. Einai safes oti kaqe perioxh exei thn idiomorfia ths. Aytes oi idiomorfies lambanontai ypoch. Se kaqe periptwsh, ekeino poy qeloyme -kai prepei na epanalambanw- einai ena sxedio gia mia lysh biwsimh, leitoyrgikh kai dikaih, sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE kai, bebaiws, gnhsia apodekth apo to eyrwpaiko kekthmeno. Mia lysh poy na problepei eniaia ekproswphsh, eniaia kyriarxia kai na antimetwpizei ta zhthmata ths eniaias iqageneias.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Hqela na sas rwthsw, an stis syzhthseis poy ginontai anamesa sto diplwmatiko grafeio toy prwqypoyrgoy me thn toyrkikh pleyra -bebaiws, an mporeite na mas peite- ejetazetai kai to endexomeno na erqei o k. Erntogkan, thn epomenh ebdomada.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh, akribws, den mporw na problecw to apotelesma twn syzhthsewn, sas eipa oti ektimhsh moy einai pws h episkech qa ginei poly grhgora.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Thn epomenh ebdomada dhladh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Poly grhgora. An eixa edw ton ekproswpo ths toyrkikhs pleyras, qa sas apantoysa.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, epeidh to timing ths episkechs sxetizetai kai me ena allo qema, gnwrizete an qa einai edw prin apo to paixnidi Panaqhnaikoy-Fener Mpaje, thn epomenh Pempth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai mia poly kalh erwthsh, alla den mporw na to problecw, ean den epikoinwnhsw to brady me ton k. Swthropoylo.

KONGKO: H apostolh pote epistrefei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti h apostolh qa epistrecei, molis oloklhrwsei to ergo ths, afoy, dhladh, qa exei oristei h hmeromhnia kai h hmerhsia diatajh ths episkechs.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Mias kai anaferqhkame sto paixnidi me ton Panaqhnaiko, yparxei problhmatismos sthn kybernhsh gia to qema asfaleias twn Toyrkwn filaqlwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Problhmatismos den yparxei, metra yparxoyn. Einai safes oti prepei na lhfqoyn -kai qa lhfqoyn- metra. Exoyn problefqei ola ta anagkaia metra asfaleias gia ena tetoio agwna. Ekeino poy qelw na epishmanw einai oti doyleyoyme hdh se ayth thn kateyqynsh ws kybernhsh dia twn armodiwn arxwn. Alla, xairomai dioti kai o epishmos Panaqhnaikos fainetai oti lambanei ola ta anagkaia metra -sto epipedo twn dynatothtwn toy, bebaia- pros thn idia kateyqynsh.

Sas eyxaristw.


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