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Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-06-03

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 3 Ioynioy 2003

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

TSAKIRHS: Yparxoyn, shmera, polla dhmosieymata gia th symfwnia EL.PE-PETROLA, poy lene oti h sxesh antallaghs twn metoxwn, isws na mhn einai ayth poy exei anakoinwqei. Malista, oi dyo etairies anakoinwsan xqes oti ayth den exei akomh kaqoristei. Telika, einai symferoysa gia to kratos ayth h symfwnia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai apolyta symferoysa gia to kratos. Ayto anaferetai, ejalloy, kai sthn anakoinwsh twn ypoyrgwn Oikonomias - Oikonomikwn kai Anaptyjhs. Exei anaptyxqei enas dialogos panw se ayto kai exei apodeixqei prwton, oti dhmioyrgeitai mia nea etairia, me idiaiterh dynamh, oxi mono sthn Ellada, alla genikotera sth Notioanatolikh Eyrwph. Kai deyteron, oti qa yparxei, pera apo thn enisxysh ths antagwnistikothtas ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai ths dhmioyrgias enos qetikoy klimatos gi@ aythn, kai mia shmantikh eisroh arketwn ekatontadwn ekatommyriwn eyrw ston kratiko proypologismo, ta opoia qa xrhsimopoihqoyn gia thn enisxysh ths anaptyjhs kai ths koinwnikhs politikhs.

KARGOYDH: Ayrio, qa diejaxqei sth Boylh mia pro hmerhsias diatajhs syzhthsh, h opoia qa anaptyxqei mesa se mia entonh fhmologia gia antallagh pyrwn k.t.l. Hqela na rwthsw, gia thn kybernhsh to zhtoymeno apo ayth th synedriash poio qa einai;

PRWTOPAPAS: To zhtoymeno gia mas einai, me nhfalio, ypeyqyno tropo kai me epixeirhmata, na syzhthqoyn h genikoterh poreia kai oi prooptikes ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai bebaiws h enisxysh, mesa apo thn apodosh ths oikonomias kai ta kerdh poy qa prokycoyn apo aythn, ths koinwnikhs politikhs kai twn politikwn apasxolhshs. Me thn parembash toy Prwqypoyrgoy qa anadeijoyme akribws thn oysia ths politikhs mas, th qetikh poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, tis prooptikes ths kai tis sygkekrimenes politikes gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn poy yparxoyn. Bebaiws, qa syndesoyme th qetikh poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai thn enisxysh toy dynamismoy kai ths staqerothtas ths, thn poreia ths anaptyjhs poy einai idiaitera ychlh, me thn akoloyqoymenh koinwnikh politikh, thn parapera enisxysh ths, tis qetikes politikes poy qa xrhmatodothqoyn gia thn enisxysh ths apasxolhshs kai twn qesewn ergasias. Ara, to zhtoymeno ayths ths syzhthshs einai na koybentiasoyme gia thn oikonomia kai tis prooptikes. Na syzhthsoyme gia th xrhmatodothsh ths koinwnikhs politikhs kai twn politikwn apasxolhshs. Eimaste etoimoi na anaptyjoyme tis qeseis mas kai bebaiws na apanthsoyme se opoia erwthmata h kritikes yparjoyn apo thn pleyra ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Elpizoyme oti kai h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh den qa akoloyqhsei politikh genikologias, aoristologias kai syskotishs twn pantwn, politikh epirrichs skias panw apo to dhmosio bio kai malista adikaiologhta kai oti qa symbalei me th stash ths sthn anadeijh twn pragmatikwn zhthmatwn poy syndeontai me thn ellhnikh oikonomia kai thn poreia ths.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Oi Toyrkoi fainetai oti epimenoyn stis proklhseis enantion ths Elladas. Ektos apo tis parabaseis sto FIR Aqhnwn kai tis parabiaseis ston Eqniko Enaerio Xwro, poy xqes eixame pali, eixame kai mia parenoxlhsh aeroskafoys jenhs etairias, to opoio, thn wra poy prospaqoyse na prosgeiwqei, toyrkika aeroskafh to parenoxlhsan, gegonos poy anagkase thn Ellada na shkwsei polemika aeroskafh gia na ta ekdiwjei. Shmerino dhmosieyma efhmeridas, apo aporrhta eggrafa, leei oti h Toyrkia diekdikei 135 ellhnika nhsia kai braxonhsides. Bebaia ayta ta anaferw parempiptontws...

PRWTOPAPAS: Nai, alla an ta prosqetete, dhmioyrgeite mia eikona poy den antistoixei...

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Einai ena dhmosieyma poy anaferetai se aporrhta eggrafa. Den prospaqw na dhmioyrghsw kamia entypwsh. Ta anaferw ws gegonota. Meta arxizei h gnwsth askhsh "Qalassolykos" ths Toyrkias. Ola ayta, anhsyxoyn thn ellhnikh kybernhsh; Ti ginetai; H katastash exei ftasei se shmeio poy mporei na dhmioyrghqei qermo epeisodio, opws polloi anaferoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn ta prwteyonta metwpa kai ta problhmata poy prospaqei na dhmioyrghsei h Toyrkia gia na apokroysei tis epityxies ths ellhnikhs ejwterikhs politikhs sta prwteyonta metwpa. Ayth th stigmh, krinontai oi dieqneis prwtoboylies gia to Kypriako, kaqws kai gia alla zhthmata. Einai safes oti h toyrkikh ejwterikh politikh einai pantelws apomonwmenh. H toyrkikh adiallajia exei qesei se kindyno thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias. Oi Toyrkoi strathgoi prospaqoyn na mas odhghsoyn se ena deyterogenes metwpo, me thn politikh twn parabasewn, twn parabiasewn kai kaqe eidoys proklhsewn, prokeimenoy na strafei to endiaferon ekei, na dhmioyrgoyn oroi mias deyterogenoys antiparaqeshs kai na xaqei to prwteyon zhthma, poy einai h askhsh pieshs apo olh th dieqnh koinothta gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy sto plaisio toy OHE. Den qa toys kanoyme th xarh. Ayto, omws, se kamia periptwsh den shmainei oti den lambanoyme ola ta anagkaia metra gia th diasfalish twn eqnikwn symferontwn mas. Ayto einai aytonohto.

ANTYPAS: Eipate oti perimenete kai apo th N.D. na akoloyqhsei mia stash epoikodomhtikh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti qeloyme na elpizoyme. Twra, ti perimenoyme, einai allo qema.

ANTYPAS: Dhladh, an h N.D. antapokriqei se ayth thn prosdokia...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto symferei ton ellhniko lao.

ANTYPAS: Nai, ton symferei, alla ton symferei akoma na jekaqarisoyn oi kataggelies poy exoyn antallagei ekaterwqen.

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti eixame na poyme to eipame. Alla, apo ekei kai pera, an proklhqoyme, qa apanthsoyme.

ANTYPAS: Ektimate oti an den proklhqeite kai den apanthsete, den fobaste oti qa dhmioyrghqei h aisqhsh ston ellhniko lao oti ephlqe symchfismos kai symbibasmos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei kanenas symchfismos. Epimenoyme se ayta poy eipame. To antikeimeno, omws, ths syzhthshs einai h ellhnikh oikonomia kai h poreia ths. Den exoyme, loipon, para na deijoyme poia einai h poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai pws eggyatai tis politikes apasxolhshs kai tis koinwnikes politikes genikotera. Pws einai wfelimh gia ton topo, to lao kai thn koinwnia mas kai bebaiws se ti diaforopoieitai, sthn oysia, ayth h politikh apo tis neofileleyqeres logikes ths N.D.. Apo ekei kai pera, an h N.D. synexisei tis aoristologies kai tis genikologies, na eiste bebaioi oti qa parei thn apanthsh poy prepei.

ANTYPAS: Emena me anhsyxei, an den synexisei h N.D.

PRWTOPAPAS: An den synexisei h N.D. shmainei oti aposyrei ayta poy elege.

ANTYPAS: Eseis den qa epidiwjete na apodeijete tis dikes sas kataggelies;

PRWTOPAPAS: Emeis, o,ti exoyme na poyme, to eipame kai to apodeijame. Opws gnwrizete, anaferame kai onomata.

BITALHS: Xqes, h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh kateqese sth Boylh protash gia systash ejetastikhs epitrophs, gia to skandalo -opws apokalei- toy Xrhmatisthrioy kai gia ton k. Malesio. Epeidh, kata kairoys, to qema toy Xrhmatisthrioy exei ypeiselqei kai sthn politikh zwh, pisteyete oti h systash mias tetoias epitrophs, mporei na lysei ayta ta problhmata, dhladh, na apallajei apo tis skies poy yparxoyn ayth th stigmh gia to Xrhmatisthrio kai ton politiko ntoro poy ginetai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa hqela na ejhghsw ti paei na kanei h N.D. kai akoloyqws qa sas kanw mia dhlwsh, ep` aytoy. Opws gnwrizete h eisaggeleas kai Toympanoy esteile thn ypoqesh Malesioy sth Boylh me erwthma ean ths epitrepei h Boylh na synexisei thn ereyna, gia to qema ths piqanhs -opws leei- syndeshs h mh syndeshs, gia na eimai akribologos, ths ypoqeshs toy k. Malesioy me thn olh ypoqesh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Ayto einai to erwthma poy qetei pros th Boylh h ka Eisaggeleas. Jafnika paroysiasthke xqes mia epistolh ths N.D. sth Boylh, thn opoia kateqese o k. Paylopoylos, h opoia omilei gia thn ypoqesh ths DEKA, twn eklogwn ths 9hs Aprilioy 2000, ths genikoterhs ypoqeshs toy Xrhmatisthrioy kai alla tina. Edw, exw na kanw thn ejhs dhlwsh: Prokeitai gia mia aperigrapth kai prwtofanh akrobasia, poy den ekqetei mono th N.D., poy prospaqei na ypotimhsei th nohmosynh mas, alla dhmioyrgei kai pragmatika problhmata. To prwto pragmatiko problhma, einai oti yparxei mia perifronhsh ths Dikaiosynhs kai toy aithmatos poy eqese kai etsi apodeiknyetai oti h N.D. sthrizei th Dikaiosynh monon otan ektima oti ejyphretoyntai ta symferonta ths. Kai to deytero, einai oti gia mia akomh fora apodeiknyetai pws h N.D. akoloyqei mian epikindynh politikh, prospaqwntas na yponomeysei to klima sthn oikonomia me tetoioy eidoys parembaseis, se mia epoxh poy h oikonomia deixnei na proxwrei se mia poreia enisxyshs ths antagwnistikothtas kai toy dynamismoy ths.

To xarakthrisa de epikindynh akrobasia, epeidh qa mporoysa na pw oti moy qymizei ayto poy elegan merikes fores oi mhteres mas, to ftiajimo enos faghtoy poy legotan ``toyrloy''. Edw, omws, den einai etsi ta pragmata. Edw, prepei na eimaste sygkekrimenoi. Ti zhthse h ka Eisaggeleas; Zhthse na ejetastei mia sygkekrimenh ypoqesh. Ant` aytoy kaloymaste na janasyzhthsoyme gia th DEKA. Giati to kanei h N.D.; Na sas pw kaqara giati to kanei. To kanei giati ektima oti, me ayton ton tropo, qa mporesei na dhmioyrghsei problhma klimatos sthn oikonomia kai pali kai ayto gnwrizontas oti einai mia epoxh poy enisxyetai o dynamismos ths oikonomias, enisxyetai h antagwnistikothta ths me sygkekrimenes apofaseis ths kybernhshs. H politikh ths N.D. den einai mono oti perifronei kai ypotima th nohmosynh mas, den einai mono oti kanei aperigraptoys akrobatismoys. Einai sthn oysia epikindynh gia thn idia thn oikonomia kai to klima se aythn.

BITALHS: Epeidh kai sto parelqon -qymaste kai qymomaste oloi- exei dhmioyrghqei me aformh to Xrhmatisthrio ena klima politikhs antiparaqeshs, mallon exei ypeiselqei kai h politikh se ayto to qema. Eseis qa sthrijete, qa apodexqeite ayto to aithma gia ejetastikh epitroph...

PRWTOPAPAS: To exoyme syzhthsei dyo fores. Ayto to qema exei teleiwsei.

BITALHS: Dhladh, den prokeitai na apodexqeite ayto to aithma.

PRWTOPAPAS: To erwthma ths kas eisaggelews einai, ean qa ejetastei piqanh emplokh prwhn ypoyrgoy me thn ypoqesh twn O.A. opoy bebaia exoyme kanei kai safeis topoqethseis gyrw apo ayto. Omws, jafnika me mia apiqanh akrobasia erxetai to qema toy Xrhmatisthrioy kai pali. Sas eipa giati to kanei h N.D. Pisteyete oti yparxei sobaros anqrwpos poy mporei na syzhthsei se ayth th bash;

BITALHS: Gia to qema toy k. Malesioy;

PRWTOPAPAS: To erwthma poy exei qesei h N.D. den einai ayto. Topoqetoymai epi toy sygkekrimenoy erwthmatos.

BITALHS: Nai, alla zhta ejetastikh epitroph kai gia to xrhmatisthrio kai gia ton k. Malesio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas apanthsa, me arketoys xarakthrismoys kai epiqeta. Ena pragma poy qelw na jekaqarisw kai na qymisw pali einai oti h kybernhsh exei dhlwsei -kai epimenei se ayto- pws h symbash twn O.A. egine se kaqestws plhroys diafaneias kai me plhrh yperaspish @gi ayto katebhke kai to timhma kata entypwsiako pososto- twn symferontwn toy Dhmosioy.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: H kybernhsh exei kapoio sxolio gia th xqesinh grapth, proswpikh, dhlwsh toy idiokthth ths MOTOROIL k. Bardh Bardinogiannh, dedomenoy oti erxetai meta apo mia syzhthsh hmerwn gia ena shmantiko qema poy afora thn oikonomia, alla kai giati o k. Bardinogiannhs den exei synhqisei ta teleytaia xronia na antidra me ayto ton tropo, ean dhladh den einai kapoias shmasias.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den blepw to logo giati qa prepei na sxoliasw tis dhlwseis toy k. Bardinogiannh. O k. Bardinogiannhs eipe ayto poy pisteye. Emeis giati qa prepei na to sxoliasoyme;

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Moy epitrepete; Se mia deyterh dhlwsh toy, meta apo hmeres, ayth th xqesinh dhladh, epimenei oti to qema ths sygxwneyshs EL.PE-PETROLA einai politiko kai afora thn ellhnikh oikonomia, thn kybernhsh kai thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia thn oysia toy qematos sas parapempw stis synexeis topoqethseis mas. Den xreiazetai na sxoliazoyme monimws. Einai ena qema sto opoio h kybernhsh exei topoqethqei.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa yparjei kapoio sxolio-antidrash ths ellhnikhs Proedrias se shmerino prwtoselido ths HERALD TRIBUNE, symfwna me to opoio sth synanthsh toy Ebian kaneis den orqwse to anasthma toy na ekproswphsei thn E.E.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayth einai mia aparadekth logikh, idiaitera otan, epi treis hmeres kai shmera, parakoloyqoyme tis prospaqeies poy exei kanei o proedreywn toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, exoyme dei tis synenteyjeis toy, tis prospaqeies poy katabalei -me tis dynameis poy exei h E.E.- kai exoyme dei qetika apotelesmata, se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Kapoia stigmh qa prepei na exoyme empistosynh sthn prospaqeia poy ginetai, opws exoyn oloi oi laoi ths Eyrwphs. Kaneis den mporei na ypobaqmisei olh ayth th doyleia poy exei kanei h ellhnikh Proedria. Qewroyme (kai ayto einai mia koinh synistamenh olwn twn eyrwpaikwn kommatwn, se epipedo eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy ennow, alla kai twn kratwn-melwn ths E. E) oti h ellhnikh Proedria exei dwsei th dynatothta sthn E.E. na orqwsei to anasthma ths, na apokthsei fwnh kai na parembei se polla kai krisima zhthmata poy aforoyn kai toys laoys kai tis koinwnies kai th dieqnh koinothta. Na stamathsei, loipon, ayth h prospaqeia yponomeyshs ayths ths poreias.

GARGALAKOS: Shmera h Basilisshs Sofias ekleise gia polles wres apo 200 katoikoys poy diamartyrontan gia tis xwmateres poy exoyn programmatistei na xwroqethqoyn stis perioxes toys. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: To kentriko zhthma einai oti qa prepei na katalaboyn oi katoikoi oti ean den xwroqethqoyn xwroi ygeionomikhs tafhs -giati den prokeitai gia th xwmaterh poy jerame- qa exoyme problhma poy qa afora oloys toys katoikoys toy Lekanopedioy. Prepei, loipon, na ginei antilhpto afenos oti bebaiws den yparxei kindynos gia ekeinoys kai afeteroy oti oloi prepei na symballoyme me aisqhma eyqynhs se ena qema poy afora 4 ekatommyria anqrwpoys. Den mporei na synexisoyme etsi me toys yparxontes xwroys. H ypoyrgos PEXWDE xeirizetai to qema poly kala kai me idiaiterh eyqynh. Exoyn arxika prosdiorisei kapoies perioxes, qa ginoyn oi meletes kai mexri ton Aygoysto qa katalhjoyn. Se ayto to shmeio h kybernhsh den qa kanei pisw. Dioti afora to synolo twn katoikwn toy Lekanopedioy.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ean den yparxei kindynos gia th dhmosia ygeia, tote giati diamartyrontai; Bgainoyn stoys dromoys etsi kai fwnazoyn xwris logo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei kindynos. Kaqenas exei dikaiwma na diamartyretai. Prwton, exei jekaqaristei apo seira meletwn oti den yparxei kindynos. Kai deyteron, mporei na toys enoxlei gia alloys logoys, aisqhtikoys h otidhpote allo. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, yparxei ena qema poy afora 4 ekatommyria polites. Den ginetai na synexizoyme etsi. Kata ta alla, den mporw na gnwrizw poio skeptiko epikrathse sthn Astynomia. Profanws, qa htan prolhptikoi oi logoi, gia na mhn dhmioyrghqoyn ta opoias morfhs problhmata.

Sas eyxaristw.


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