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Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-06-06

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 6 Ioynioy 2003

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

O Prwqypoyrgos, opws gnwrizete, brisketai sto Parisi. Nwris to apogeyma, qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Gallikhs Dhmokratias Zak Sirak kai sth synexeia, me thn idiothta toy Proedreyontos toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, qa synanthqei me ton Proedro ths Eyrwpaikhs Syneleyshs Baleri Ziskar nt@ Esten.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa hqela na ekfrasete apoch gia to neo chfisma toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy. Sthn oysia, bazei qhlia sto laimo ths Toyrkias, sthn opoia, metajy twn allwn, leei "amesh apoxwrhsh toyrkikwn strateymatwn katoxhs apo thn Kypro", "lysh toy Kypriakoy" kai sthn oysia ypobaqmish toy Eqnikoy Symboylioy ths Toyrkias. Epishs, qa hqela na sas pw oti h katastash sthn Kypro, sxetika me to qema twn Strobiliwn, synexizetai kai qa hqela na mas peite ti exete kanei ep@ aytoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme janapei oti exei yparjei epikoinwnia me to Kypriako ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai exoyn lhfqei ola ta anagkaia metra s@ ayth thn kateyqynsh. Oson afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, nomizw oti ayth h parembash toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy exei th dikh ths shmantikh ajia. Epibebaiwnei, gia mia akomh fora, oti h eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias perna mesa apo thn epilysh toy kypriakoy problhmatos. Deixnei oti h Eyrwph den einai diateqeimenh na anextei thn adiallakth stash, poy synexizei shmera h Toyrkia, piesmenh apo katesthmenes antilhceis kai symferonta. H grammh ayth, h grammh poy ekfrazei o k. Ntenktas, odhgei se adiejoda thn idia thn Toyrkia, se sxesh me thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths. Ayto prepei na to antilhfqoyn egkaira kai na symballoyn sth lysh toy Kypriakoy. Qewrw kai ayth thn parembash toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy, idiaitera shmantikh se ayth thn kateyqynsh.

KARGOYDH: Hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia ta dhmosieymata oti prowqeitai enas nomos, mia symfwnia, metajy Eyrwphs kai HPA -malista qa ypografei kata thn episkech toy Proedreyontos sthn Oyasigkton- poy afora tis sxeseis dikaioy metajy twn dyo pleyrwn, perilambanomenoy kai toy dikaiwmatos ekdoshs politwn ths E.E. pros tis HPA.

PRWTOPAPAS: Prin apo ligo, epikoinwnhsa me ton k. Petsalniko, o opoios brisketai sto Loyjemboyrgo. Me plhroforhse oti ontws einai mia palia prwtoboylia ths belgikhs Proedrias, h opoia anamenetai na symfwnhqei se epipedo E.E. Qa einai ena eidos symfwnias-plaisioy, metajy E.E.-HPA. O k. Petsalnikos me enhmerwse oti apokleietai kaqe ekdosh Ellhna yphkooy. Eidikotera, den exei kamia sxesh -afoy apokleietai kaqe ekdosh Ellhna yphkooy- kai me ta qemata ths 17N. H symfwnia perilambanei rhtws thn isxy twn palaioterwn symfwniwn. Se emas isxyoyn oi dimereis symfwnies Elladas-HPA, gyrw apo ayta ta qemata, oi opoies exoyn ypografei apo to 1931, apo o,ti plhroforhqhka. Symfwna me to ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs, to antiqeto symbainei, se sxesh me ayta poy grafthkan. Katoxyrwnetai mia seira apo dikaiwmata, opws einai ta proswpika dedomena kai malista empodizetai h ekdosh jenwn politwn stis xwres toys, an ekei kindyneyoyn me qanatikh poinh. Epomenws, den yparxei kanena qema ekdoshs Ellhnwn politwn, kata to ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs. Oi symfwnies poy yparxoyn metajy Elladas kai HPA isxyoyn apolyta kai den exei kamia sxesh h ypoqesh ayth me to qema ths 17N.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na epimeinw: Poies eggyhseis yparxoyn oti ola ayta poy lete qa isxysoyn, apo th stigmh poy ayth h symfwnia-plaisio einai Koinotiko Dikaio kai ara ypoxreoymaste na to dextoyme;

PRWTOPAPAS: Diabazw apo thn anakoinwsh toy k. Petsalnikoy: "H symfwnia den exei kamia sxesh, oyte ephreazei th dikh kai toys syllhfqentes gia th 17N. Oi kathgoroymenoi kai oi syllhfqentes einai Ellhnes polites kai me bash th dimerh symfwnia Elladas kai HPA den ekdidontai, opws rhta problepetai sto arqro 8 ayths ths symfwnias kai diathreitai se isxy me to arqro 17 ths symfwnias metajy E.E. kai HPA". Epomenws, to arqro 17 ths symfwnias metajy E.E. kai HPA, poy epixeireitai twra, diathrei rhta se isxy tis dimereis symfwnies poy yparxoyn metajy Elladas kai HPA kai oi opoies isxyoyn apolyta. Oydeis Ellhnas yphkoos mporei na ekdoqei kai na dikastei stis HPA.

Epishs, o k. Petsalnikos tonizei oti h symfwnia den ephreazei, oyte tropopoiei, amesa h emmesa, to nomiko kaqestws twn eyrwpaikwn xwrwn, poy den epitrepoyn thn ekdosh idiwn yphkown. Ayto qa synexisei rhta na efarmozetai. Oti exei prostiqemenh ajia gia orismena qemata -anefera xarakthristika oti den epitrepetai h ekdosh, otan apeileitai me poinh qanatoy- kai yparxoyn xwres poy synexizoyn na exoyn ayto to dikaiwma. Yparxei kai mia seira apo zhthmata prostasias twn proswpikwn dedomenwn. Einai apolytws anakribes oti problepetai ekdosh kai gia paragrammenes ypoqeseis. Einai apolytws anakribes oti problepetai h ekdosh proswpoy gia na janadikastei. Den yparxei apolytws kamia diatajh sto keimeno poy paradidei h Ellhnikh Proedria, poy na epitrepei amesa h emmesa tetoio endexomeno.

"Ayto poy problepetai kata th symfwnia ayth", tonizei o k. Petsalnikos, "einai oti mporei na ekdoqei kapoios poliths triths xwras", oxi Ellhnas, "gia prajeis poy kathgoreitai oti exei diaprajei, prin apo thn ypografh ths paroysas symfwnias, me mia basikh proypoqesh: oti oi prajeis toy htan ajiopoines kata to xrono, poy kathgoreitai oti tis diepraje kai kata to dikaio ths xwras poy zhta thn ekdosh kai kata to dikaio ths xwras apo thn opoia zhteitai h ekdosh toy".

MIXAHL: Apo th stigmh poy ayto qa ypografei, ginetai Koinotiko Dikaio. Ara, emeis ws xwra, den mporoyme na poyme oti den qa epikyrwsoyme ayth th symbash ths E.E. me tis HPA. Kai kata synepeia...

PRWTOPAPAS: Poio einai to problhma sas;

MIXAHL: To problhma einai oti an emeis sthn Ellada syllaboyme kapoion polith triths xwras, ypoxreoymaste me bash ayth th symfwnia na ton ekdwsoyme stis HPA. Toso aplo einai.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ypo sygkekrimenoys oroys kai proypoqeseis.

MIXAHL: Oi ekdoseis den ginontai etsi. Ginontai katw apo oroys kai proypoqeseis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Giati kai twra, ti ginetai; Ti allazei, dhladh;

MIXAHL: Oxi. Twra yparxei dimerhs...

PRWTOPAPAS: Kyrie Mixahl, yparxei h E.E. Qewrw apolytws logiko h E.E. na proxwrhsei sto diko ths dikaio. Ayto to qewreite mh ygies; Ygiestato einai. Twra yparxei h E.E.. H E.E., loipon, kanei kai tis dikes ths kinhseis, dhmioyrgei to diko ths plaisio -ws plaisio panta, den empodizei ayto thn epimeroys nomoqesia- se sxesh me tis sxeseis ths me tis HPA. Enhmerwqhke ep@ aytoy to Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio, h Boylh twn Ellhnwn, h Olomeleia toy Eyrwkoinoboylioy, yphrxe eidikh Epitroph Diapragmateyshs. H Ellhnikh Proedria exei epaineqei apo ola ta krath-melh ths E.E., gia to gegonos oti h E.E. proxwrei, kanei ena akomh bhma kai diamorfwnei mia sxesh, ws Enwsh, ws eniaia ontothta pia kai oxi mono ws kaqe kratos xwrista, me tis HPA. Kai rwtw: Ti einai poio isxyro; To kaqe kratos xwrista h h eniaia ontothta ths E.E. twn 25 xwrwn kai twn ekatontadwn ekatommyriwn politwn;

KARGOYDH: Ypo proypoqeseis...

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi proypoqeseis isxyoyn kai opws eidate den anatrepontai ta problepomena stis dimereis symfwnies.

KARGOYDH: Me aformh oti problepetai ayth h spania rhtra, yparxoyn amerikanika aithmata pros xwres ths E.E. gia ekdoseis sygkekrimenwn politwn poy ekkremoyn kai ara aytos o nomos...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto den to gnwrizw. Oson afora pantws thn Ellada, gnwrizete poly kala oti den antimetwpizoyme tetoia problhmata.

KARGOYDH: Anaferomai se yphkooys tritwn xwrwn. Mas exei ypoblhqei tetoio aithma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prepei na sas qymisw oti eimai ekproswpos ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Den mporw na gnwrizw ti ginetai sto Loyjemboyrgo.

KALARITHS: Apagoreyetai h ekdosh jenwn politwn se trites xwres, an kindyneyoyn me poinh qanatoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Nai. Dinetai h dynatothta ayth. An h ellhnikh kybernhsh ektimhsei oti kapoios kindyneyei me thn poinh toy qanatoy, yparxei h problech na mhn probei sthn ekdosh toy.

KALARITHS: Ekei, den isxyoyn oi proypoqeseis poy anaferate; Dhladh, an isxyoyn oi proypoqeseis...

PRWTOPAPAS: Epitrepetai h arnhsh ekdoshs, otan apeileitai me poinh qanatoy, symfwna me thn anakoinwsh toy ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs.

BITALHS: Dhladh, den qa ekdidetai se politeia amerikanikh poliths triths xwras, otan sth sygkekrimenh politeia yparxei qanatikh poinh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai sth diakritikh eyxereia ths Elladas. Emeis, opws gnwrizete, den to kanoyme pote. Einai sthn eyxereia mas.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn aithmata apo tis amerikanikes arxes gia ekdosh politwn apo trites xwres, shmera, sthn Ellada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ej oswn gnwrizw den yparxei aithma na ekdwsoyme polites. Alla ayto den syndeetai kaqoloy me ayth th symfwnia. Metajy Elladas - HPA, symfwna kai me to plaisio poy einai pros ypografh, paramenei rhta se isxy h dimerhs symfwnia. O,ti isxye metajy Elladas kai HPA, oxi monon ejakoloyqei na isxyei, alla kai enisxyetai, otan dinetai eyqews sthn Ellada to dikaiwma na arnhqei ekdosh kapoioy, otan apeileitai me poinh qanatoy kai otan prostateyontai peraiterw proswpika dedomena.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Otan ypografei ayth h symbash metajy E.E. kai HPA, h Ellada qa exei to dikaiwma na threi kai toys dikoys ths nomoys, tis dikes ths symbaseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Afoy exei sxesh me th symbash metajy Elladas kai HPA.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ayth synexizei na isxyei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws. Rhta problepetai oti paramenei se isxy. Einai palaia symbash, apo to 1931.

Na jekaqarisw kati: Kamia diatajh symfwnias den problepei anadromikh efarmogh oysiastikoy poinikoy nomoy. Kanenas poliths den dikazetai kai kanenas poliths triths xwras den ekdidetai sthn E.E., otan kata to xrono poy feretai na exei diaprajei to adikhma, den yphrxe nomos symfwna me ton opoio, h sygkekrimenh symperifora apoteloyse poiniko adikhma. Den mporei na diwxqei kapoios anadromika, otan diamenei -as einai poliths triths xwras- sthn E.E.. Allo problepetai, opws epishmainei kai o k. Petsalnikos, me th symfwnia. Mporei na ekdoqei poliths triths xwras -to epanalambanw- oxi ths E.E., apo thn E.E. gia prajeis poy kathgoreitai oti exei diaprajei prin apo thn ypografh ths paroysas symfwnias, efoson omws oi prajeis htan hdh ajiopoines kata thn telesh toys. Dhladh, an kapoios nomos twn HPA, se kathgoroyse tote gia ajiopoinh prajh kai esy eisai poliths triths xwras poy zeis shmera sthn Eyrwph kai erqoyn oi HPA kai zhthsoyn thn ekdosh soy, den mporei na ginei ayto me nomo poy chfisthke meta apo thn prajh poy ekanes, para monon ean to ajiopoino htan katoxyrwmeno prin apo thn prajh poy ekanes.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: As eyxhqoyme@

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, na mhn eyxhqoyme, giati se ayta ta zhthmata den yparxoyn eyxes. Se ayta ta zhthmata yparxoyn kaqares sxeseis kai kaqares ejhghseis. Emeis den prokeitai na epitrecoyme na ekdoqei Ellhnas poliths. Ayto einai poly safes. Den xwrei edw kamia amfibolia. Den einai dynaton pote ayth h kybernhsh na epetrepe kati tetoio. Jenos poliths ekdidetai mono kata tis keimenes diatajeis, efoson proebh se ajiopoinh prajh kai krinoyme oti prepei na ekdoqei. Giati, den exoyme ekdwsei jenoys polites; Dhladh, an kapoios brei katafygio sthn Ellada kai apodeixqei oti eixe diaprajei apath h fono se kapoia allh xwra, apagoreyetai na ekdoqei;

MIXAHL: Epeidh den eiste nomikos, den qelw na sas qesw ena erwthma poy einai kai to kairio erwthma poy krybetai pisw apo ola ayta. Qa prepei na to diabibasoyme sto ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporw na apanthsw politika kai apanthsa.

MIXAHL: Tote na sas rwthsw poly apla: Oi Amerikanoi, prin apo thn ypografh ayths ths symfwnias, kathgoroyn mia seira Arabwn ws tromokrates. Ean emeis toys syllaboyme twra, giati mporei na eixan probei se kapoia prajh kata twn Amerikanwn, prin apo dyo xronia, me bash ayth th symbash, ofeiloyme, afoy einai ajiopoinh h prajh toys prin apo thn ypografh ths symbashs, na toys ekdwsoyme. Toso aplo einai.

PRWTOPAPAS: Yphrxe periptwsh na syllhfqei kapoios, o opoios kathgoreitai gia ajiopoinh prajh, thn opoia diepraje se trith xwra kai na mhn ejetasoyme thn ekdosh toy;

MIXAHL: To Rasint gia paradeigma@

PRWTOPAPAS: Ejetazetai se oles tis periptwseis kai shmera, dioti yparxei h symfwnia Elladas - HPA. Kai mhn kanete pws den to gnwrizete. Se oles tis periptwseis ejetazetai ean qa ekdoqei h oxi. Oydepote apantoyme "oxi", xwris na to ejetasoyme kai oydepote apantoyme "nai" ej orismoy. Se oles tis periptwseis, loipon, ayta ta zhthmata ejetazontai. Den katalabainw poio einai to problhma. Edw yparxei kati safes: Dhmioyrgeitai mia sxesh kai se ayto to shmeio, mia symbash metajy Eyrwphs kai HPA. Mexri twra yparxoyn symfwnies metajy Elladas-HPA, Germanias-HPA, Gallias-HPA. Kai egw erwtw: Otan qeloyme thn ontothta poy legetai E.E. -gia na mhn krybomaste pisw apo to daktylo mas- qeloyme h den qeloyme na synaptei kai analoges symbaseis; Symfwnies-plaisio qa einai. Qa epitrepoyn tis eidikes ryqmiseis. Qeloyme na yparjei koino plaisio. Apo th stigmh, loipon, poy dexomaste thn anagkh h E.E. na leitoyrgei ws ontothta kai sto qesmiko pedio, as syzhthsoyme me qetikh diaqesh gia th dhmioyrgia enos tetoioy plaisioy. Ean yparxoyn problhmata me tis sygkekrimenes diatajeis, qa syzhthqoyn kai qa antimetwpistoyn. Gi` ayto qesame to qema sto Eyrwkoinoboylio kai tis Synodoys Ypoyrgwn.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: An qymamai kala sth dimerh symbash poy exoyme me thn Amerikh, den problepetai h ekdosh politwn tritwn xwrwn apo thn Ellada pros tis HPA kai sas qymizw to paradeigma poy anefere kai o k. Mixahl, ths ypoqeshs Rasint. Ekei eixe topoqethqei tote h ellhnikh pleyra sth mh ekdosh.

KARGOYDH: Yparxei neo nomoqetiko plaisio@

PRWTOPAPAS: Etsi akribws. Ta qemata ths dieqnoys tromokratias exoyn ryqmistei alliws. To qymhqhke h k. Kargoydh. Yparxoyn kapoies nees ejelijeis me th dieqnh tromokratia kai aytes einai logiko na exoyn dhmioyrghsei prosarmogh toy qesmikoy plaisioy. Ayto, omws, den afora Ellhnes polites kai fysika den afora toys syllhfqentes gia th "17N".

GARGALAKOS: Pisteyei h kybernhsh oti meta apo th syzhthsh sth Boylh, se epipedo politikwn arxhgwn, exei jefygei h politikh zwh apo ton kyklo ths skandalologias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Makari na ginotan kati tetoio. Bebaiws ektimw oti oi Ellhnes polites exoyn katalabei pleon oti ayto to oikodomhma, to opoio epixeirhqhke na sthqei me eyqynh ths N.D., katerreyse ws xartinos pyrgos. Epomenws, einai wra na asxolhqoyme oloi me ta pragmatika problhmata kai ekei na kriqoyme. Me ayta emeis asxoloymaste, alla qeloyme na asxolhqoyme akomh pio apotelesmatika kai pio entona. Prwto zhthma einai -kai qeloyme na syzhthsoyme gi` ayta perissotero- ta problhmata ths oikonomias, ths apasxolhshs, ths koinwnias. Bebaiws na syzhthsoyme ean h kybernhtikh politikh einai swsth h laqos h an qelei beltiwseis h an prepei kati na allajoyme. Epiteloys, koyrasthke o ellhnikos laos na syzhta gia zhthmata dhqen skandalwn, na syzhta me entypwseis kai yperboles kai fwtografies, alla xwris oysia kai apo thn allh pleyra na prospaqei h N.D. na oikodomhsei ena eidos antiparaqeshs sthn politikh zwh, to opoio katestrece ta panta, anaitia, xwris na prosferei tipota. Oyte diafqora kai diaplokh, oyte kathgories gia diafqora kai diaplokh pros thn kybernhsh pote apodeixqhkan, oyte yphrje tipota poy na eystaqei, oyte se telikh analysh exoyme na krycoyme h na fobhqoyme kati. Kai ayto einai apolytws katanohto. Alla, as ginei ejisoy katanohto oti o ellhnikos laos exei alles apaithseis. Kai emeis eimaste diateqeimenoi na antapokriqoyme se aytes tis apaithseis. As erqei h N.D. na syzhthsoyme gi` ayta ta zhthmata. Den einai kakh h politikh antiparaqesh. Alla na einai politikh antiparaqesh oysias, panw sta pragmatika problhmata toy topoy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, exoyn perielqei plhrofories apo NATOikes phges, sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh, sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, Amynas h kapoy alloy, sxetika me to endexomeno qermoy epeisodioy poy mporei na dhmioyrghqei sto Aigaio, kata th diarkeia ths toyrkikh askhshs "Qalassolykos";

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizoyme oti qa tolmhsei kaneis na kanei kati tetoio. En pash periptwsei emeis pantote lambanoyme ta anagkaia metra gia na proaspisoyme ta eqnika symferonta mas. Apo ekei kai pera, einai safes ti epidiwkei h Toyrkia. Exoyme enhmerwsei gi` ayto oloys toys dieqneis organismoys. H Toyrkia exei hdh analabei sobarh eyqynh me thn taktikh poy akoloyqei.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Diabazw oti yparxei anhsyxia h opoia enteinetai apo plhrofories poy yparxoyn apo NATOikes phges, symfwna me tis opoies den apokleietai ayto to qermo epeisodio@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw tetoies plhrofories.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Yparxei kai h dhlwsh toy Toyrkoy ypoyrgoy amynas k. Gionoyl, o opoios epanhlqe stis nees proklhtikes dhlwseis ths Agkyras, toy stratiwtikoy katesthmenoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai h prwth fora. Etsi to mono poy petyxainoyn oi Toyrkoi einai na apomonwnontai dieqnws kai idiaitera na apempoloyn thn piqanothta mias eyrwpaikhs poreias ths xwras toys.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den yparxei kamia anhsyxia sthn ellhnikh pleyra; Den yparxei plhroforia;

PRWTOPAPAS: H ellhnikh pleyra den exei tetoies plhrofories. H ellhnikh pleyra, opws panta, einai se etoimothta. Otan yparxoyn parabiaseis yperaspizoyme ta eqnika symferonta mas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Sas rwthsa kai proxqes gia to idio qema oti o k. Gkioyl ekane mia dhlwsh poy einai aparadekth gia ta eji milia@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den kataggeilame toys kyrioys aytoys;

KWNSTANTINIDHS: An, omws, mpoyn twra mesa oi Toyrkoi, ti qa kanoyme;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa prin apo ligo oti eimaste se plhrh etoimothta.

KANELLOPOYLOS: To gegonos oti parallhla me thn askhsh "Qalassolykos" pragmatopoieitai kai allh toyrkikh askhsh, sta boreia ths Kyproy -kai ayto symbainei gia prwth fora@

PRWTOPAPAS: Mh dhmioyrgoyme apo monoi mas strofh toy endiaferontos ekei poy qeloyn oi Toyrkoi. Emeis eimaste etoimoi. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, prepei kai sth rhtorikh mas kai sta zhthmata poy anadeiknyoyme na skeftomaste oti prepei na exoyme strammeno to noy mas sto prwteyon kai oxi na anadeiknyoyme ta zhthmata poy epilegoyn kai qeloyn na katasthsoyn kyriarxa oi Toyrkoi, dioti etsi toys boleyei.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den anadeiknyw, alla rwtaw.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ekana, an qelete, mia eyryterh parathrhsh.

KWNSTANTHS: Pws sxoliazete th dhlwsh toy prwhn Proedroy ths N.D. k. Ebert gia to oti yparxei tromerh apobiomhxanish sth Boreia Ellada. Xilies diakosies epixeirhseis klwstoyfantoyrgias, me 30.000 ergazomenoys, ebalan loyketo...

PRWTOPAPAS: Giati prepei na sxoliasw tis dhlwseis toy k. Ebert; Einai synhqeis dhlwseis stelexwn ths N.D.

KWNSTANTHS: Epeidh eipate, prohgoymenws, oti sas apasxoloyn ta qemata ths apasxolhshs kai edw einai tromaktikh h katastash. Einai sygkekrimenes oi kataggelies kai aforoyn th Boreia Ellada. Deka oktw epixeirhseis exoyn fygei sta Balkania.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia tetoies kataggelies, exoyme apanthsei poly sygkekrimena. Mporei na exoyn fygei 18 epixeirhseis sta Balkania, alla exoyn idryqei dekades alles epixeirhseis kai sth Boreia, alla kai se oloklhrh thn Ellada, opws apedeije o Prwqypoyrgos me ta stoixeia poy kateqese sth Boylh, proxqes. Yparxei problhma, alla emeis ergazomaste gia na to antimetwpisoyme kai na metoysiwsoyme se apasxolhsh thn anaptyjh poy yparxei sthn ellhnikh oikonomia. Epeidh gnwrizoyme oti oi polites aisqanontai thn piesh apo to anoigma twn agorwn, gi@ ayto kai mas endiaferei idiaitera na doylecoyme se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Kanoyme laqos, otan prospaqoyme thn kaqe epixeirhmatikh apofash na th xrewsoyme sthn kybernhsh gia mikrokommatikoys logoys. H "Sisser Palas" efyge, oxi giati eixe problhmata apo thn ellhnikh oikonomia, alla dioti hqele o idiokthths -sygnwmh gia thn ekfrash- "na ta oikonomhsei', phgainontas se kapoia xwra me xamhla merokamata. Den mporei h kybernhsh na apagoreysei ston idiokthth ayton, o opoios epeleje mia oxi mono asynhqh, alla kai ektos epixeirhmatikhs hqikhs apofash, na egkatastaqei kapoy alloy. Emeis, exoyme dhmioyrghsei synqhkes antagwnistikothtas, synqhkes gia na leitoyrghsoyn swsta oi epixeirhseis. An kapoios leitoyrgei ektos epixeirhmatikhs hqikhs, den exeis th dynatothta na toy apagoreyseis na fygei. Anti na topoqethqoyme kai na enwqoyme gia na antimetwpisoyme tis sygkekrimenes drasthriothtes kai th sygkekrimenh logikh twn apofasewn mias pleyras toy epixeirhmatikoy kosmoy, kanoyme akribws to antiqeto. To metaballoyme se zhthma mias agonhs diamaxhs, h opoia den prosferei kai oi anergoi menoyn anergoi. Emeis qeloyme na mhn einai anergoi. Alla prepei na prosejoyme, giati an ginontai tetoies epiloges kai den sthliteyontai, eimaste ypeyqynoi, giati tis afhnoyme. To idio egine kai sthn etairia "TVX" kai qymamai poly kala, dioti hmoyn apo ekeinoys poy eixa agwnistei idiaitera, ws yfypoyrgos Ergasias, se symfwnia me th GSEE kai to SEB tote, gia na ginei h megalh ependysh apo thn kanadikh etairia. Kai h ependysh ayth, poy qa dhmioyrgoyse ekatontades qeseis ergasias, eixe apofasistei, alla oi katoikoi ths perioxhs prosefygan sto StE, to opoio -den to krinw, bebaiws, lew ta gegonota- apagoreyse thn pragmatopoihsh ependyshs. Aytomatws, dhmioyrghqhke qema. Olh h prospaqeia poy ginetai ayth th stigmh kai apo ton ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs A. Tsoxatzopoylo kai apo ton yfypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn X. Paxta gia na breqei mia diadoxh lysh, meta thn aposyrsh twn jenwn, dhmioyrghqhke meta thn apofash toy StE. Sthn Ellada, bebaiws, exoyme kratos dikaioy, gia na mhn yparjei parejhghsh kai den speydw na kathgorhsw kanenan. Alla, prepei na doyme telika pws dhmioyrgoyntai orismena zhthmata. H kybernhsh kanei th doyleia ths kai exei thn eyqynh gia na briskei lyseis kai na dhmioyrgei qeseis ergasias. Qelw na parakalesw na antimetwpizoyme thn kaqe ypoqesh me th deoysa sobarothta kai na krinoyme to synolikotero kybernhtiko ergo.

TSAKIRHS: Yparxei, shmera, ena dhmosieyma ths "Apogeymatinhs", poy leei oti h etairia paigniwn ths Rwsias prokeitai na kataqesei mhnysh enantion toy epixeirhmatia Swkrath Kokkalh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Giati prepei na to sxoliasw; Epixeirhmatias kataqetei mhnysh se epixeirhmatia. H Dikaiosynh qa krinei.

TSAKIRHS: Epeidh o sygkekrimenos epixeirhmatias exei kai arketa paignia edw sthn Ellada.

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo o,ti gnwrizw mhnyseis epixeirhmatiwn enantion epixeirhmatiwn einai synhqes fainomeno.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.


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