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Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-06-24

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 24 Ioynioy 2003

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Opws gnwrizete, prin apo liges wres, o Prwqypoyrgos kai Proedreywn toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy anaxwrhse gia tis HPA. Ayrio, sto plaisio ths Synodoy E.E.-HPA, qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro twn HPA k. Tzortz Mpoys, kata thn opoia qa syzhthqoyn ta qemata poy sas anefera xqes.

Th Deytera (30/6) stis 11.30, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me qema hmerhsias diatajhs ton apologismo ths Eyrwpaikhs Proedrias.

Thn Trith (1/7) o Prwqypoyrgos qa metabei sto Strasboyrgo, opoy qa milhsei sto Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio gia to idio qema.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KALARITHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, exei telika diereynhsei h kybernhsh poios htan o proorismos toy fortioy twn ekrhktikwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: To Soydan. Den yparxei amfibolia gi@ ayto.

KALARITHS: O paralhpths, poios htan; H kybernhsh h kapoia etairia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws gnwrizete, to ploio eixe fygei apo thn Tynhsia, me paralhpth mia etairia toy Soydan.

KALARITHS: Gnwrizoyn oi diwktikes arxes h h kybernhsh an yparxei h oxi etairia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai dynaton h kybernhsh na gnwrizei leptomereies gyrw apo ayto to qema; Ayto poy gnwrizoyme einai oti to ploio efyge apo thn Tynhsia gia na paei sto Soydan. O proorismos den mas endiaferei. Ayto poy mas endiaferei einai oti to ploio, to opoio eixe epikindyno fortio, mphke sta ellhnika xwrika ydata, xwris na eidopoihsei. Yparxei, loipon, parabash ths dieqnoys, alla kai ths ellhnikhs naytiliakhs nomoqesias. Den mporei ploio me epikindyno fortio na eiselqei sta ellhnika xwrika ydata, xwris na thrhsei toys kanones poy aporreoyn apo th dieqnh kai thn ellhnikh nomoqesia. Gi@ ayto, akribws, kai exei epembei o eisaggeleas.

KALARITHS: Epeidh h soydanikh kybernhsh diamartyrhqhke -nomizw mesw toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn- h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei qesei ypoch ths ayto to pragma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exei diamartyrhqei. Anhggeile oti qa diamartyrhqei kai fantazomai oti qa to kanei. Mporei na ginetai kai ayth th stigmh. H ellhnikh kybernhsh, omws, den katalabainei to logo mias tetoias diamartyrias, alla bebaiws qa apanthsei, afoy dei ti akribws qa pei h soydanikh kybernhsh. Epanalambanw: Ploio, me epikindyno fortio, eishlqe sta ellhnika xwrika ydata, xwris na eidopoihsei kai parabiase th sxetikh dieqnh kai thn ellhnikh nomoqesia. Se aytes, loipon, tis periptwseis, parembainoyme kai stelnoyme thn ypoqesh ston eisaggelea.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Gia poio logo to ekane;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na to gnwrizw.

FILHS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei endeijeis oti to fortio ayto proorizotan gia paranomes energeies;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizoyme tipota tetoio. Ean maqoyme kati, qa sas to anakoinwsoyme.

FILHS: To gegonos oti epishmws h soydanikh kybernhsh kalyptei th metafora aytoy toy fortioy, dhmioyrgei kapoio problhmatismo sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia toys logoys poy egine h parembash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs den yparxei kanena qema. H ellhnikh kybernhsh parenebh, dioti to ploio parabiase toys dieqneis kai toys ellhnikoys kanones. Ayto exei anakoinwsei kai to ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias. Eprepe, kata tis ellhnikes arxes, apo th stigmh poy metaferei epikindyno fortio -kai gi@ ayto den yparxei amfibolia- otan eishlqe sta ellhnika xwrika ydata na thrhsei toys kanonismoys. Den toys thrhse. Epomenws, yparxei adikhma.

FILHS: Ayto einai adikhma enos epipedoy. Syzhtoyme, ean yparxei adikhma megalyteroy baqmoy. Exete kati neotero;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayth th stigmh, den gnwrizw perissotera. Ejalloy, h ypoqesh einai ston eisaggelea, o opoios qa ektimhsei poies kathgories qa apeyqynei.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Epibebaiwnei h kybernhsh tis plhrofories poy anagrafontai sto shmerino Typo, symfwna me tis opoies htan enhmerh h kybernhsh kai oi ellhnikes diwktikes arxes, to teleytaio 10hmero, gia thn poreia toy ploioy, se synergasia me th CIA kai alles yphresies;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, gia thn poreia toy ploioy. Allwste, opws gnwrizete, to ploio periferotan edw kai enamish mhna. H ellhnikh kybernhsh eixe enhmerwsei tis teleytaies hmeres gia to qema ayto. Otan to ploio eishlqe sta ellhnika xwrika ydata kai ektimhsame oti den yparxoyn kindynoi, logw toy fortioy toy, tote parenebh h ellhnikh kybernhsh.

FILHS: Katw apo poies synqhkes to ploio eishlqe sta ellhnika xwrika ydata; To kynhgoyse kapoios, to parakoloyqoyse kapoios kai qelhse na mpei sta ellhnika xwrika ydata...;

PRWTOPAPAS: To ploio ayto, edw kai enamish mhna, periferotan sth Mesogeio.

FILHS: Ti shmainei "periferetai";

PRWTOPAPAS: Shmainei oti phgainei se diafora limania poy den einai topoi proorismoy toy. Fortwse sthn Tynhsia kai eprokeito na paei sto Soydan. Ant@ aytoy, edw kai enamish mhna, periferotan, phge pros to Bosporo, gyrise, phge sto Ionio@

FILHS: Kroyaziera kanei; Ti shmainei "periferetai";

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti shmainei ayto.

FILHS: Oi ellhnikes arxes gnwrizoyn an eixe askhqei piesh se ayto to ploio apo alles pleyres;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizoyme kati tetoio.

FILHS: Ara, ti shmainei "periferetai"; Mia atomikh bomba, opws eipe kai o k. Anwmeriths, periferetai sth Mesogeio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Shmainei oti ena ploio, fortwmeno me epikindyna ekrhktika, efyge apo ena limani ths Tynhsias kai ypo kanonikes synqhkes qa briskotan se peripoy treis hmeres se limani toy Soydan, poy htan o topos proorismoy toy. Gia logoys poy den gnwrizoyme -kai katalabainete eykola oti den mporoyme na gnwrizoyme- to ploio periferotan, me o,ti shmainei ayto, se diafores perioxes ths Mesogeioy. Otan ektimhsame -kai meta tis sxetikes synergasies poy yphrjan- oti dhmioyrgeitai kindynos kai yparxei parabiash ths dieqnoys, alla kai ths ellhnikhs nomoqesias, se sxesh me ta ellhnika xwrika ydata, tote parenebhsan oi arxes.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Gnwrizate oti mesa yphrxan ekrhktika, otan apofasisate na parembete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yphrxan kapoies sxetikes plhrofories.

LAMPRAKOS: Me poies yphresies alloy kratoys eixame epafes kai giati den to epiasan ekeinoi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizete oti edw kai arketo kairo yparxei genikoterh synergasia ths Elladas me arxes allwn xwrwn;

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Lete, omws, oti parenebhsan oi ellhnikes diwktikes arxes, otan to sygkekrimeno ploio mphke sta ellhnika xwrika ydata kai parabiase toys ellhnikoys kai dieqneis kanones.

PRWTOPAPAS: Nai, yphrxan kapoies plhrofories.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Profanws, omws, yphrxan nwritera plhrofories gia thn poreia kai thn kinhsh toy ploioy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kapoia stigmh, mas hrqan plhrofories, to parakoloyqhsame kai molis diapistwsame oti sthn perioxh poy brisketai den dhmioyrgei kindynoys -kai katalabainete ti ennow- tote yphrje h sxetikh parembash. Prepei na lambaneis ta metra soy gia na ejasfalizeis to kalytero dynato apotelesma. Den qa kaname ayth thn epilogh, an yphrxe konta, gia paradeigma, mia megalh polh. Kinhqhkame thn wra poy eprepe.

MPOYATAR: O k. Anwmeriths epemene, to prwi sto FLASH, oti h soydanikh etairia einai "maimoy" kai oti olh ayth istoria einai poly ypopth, giati ayto to fortio htan poly megalo gia na paei se mia opoiadhpote etairia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na bgalw symperasmata. Lew, apla, oti einai ena ploio me 680 tonoys ekrhktikwn kai -apo o,ti plhroforhqhka apo ton k. Anwmerith- 4,5 tonoys pyrokrothtes se paletes. Ayth th stigmh exoyn lhfqei ola ta anagkaia metra, wste na mhn yparjei problhma kai exoyn apomakrynqei oi pyrokrothtes. H parembash egine, dioti to ploio kinhqhke ejw apo tis diatajeis kai toys kanones ths ellhnikhs kai dieqnoys nomoqesias. Apo th stigmh poy ena ploio eiserxetai sta ellhnika xwrika ydata kai parabiazei eyqews thn ellhnikh kai dieqnh nomoqesia, einai logiko na parembainoyn oi arxes. Gi@ ayto kai to qema brisketai ston eisaggelea. Exei, pleon, epilhfqei h ellhnikh Dikaiosynh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Hqela na rwthsw, ean ayto to ploio exei sxesh me to synagermo poy yphrje, prin ena mhna, sto Kastelorizo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw kati tetoio.

TAKHS: O k. Neonakhs, xqes, prwton ejefrase pikria, dioti to komma toy den ton kalyce se olh ayth thn epiqesh poy dexetai to teleytaio diasthma apo thn ``Ayrianh'' kai apo ton Typoy genika kai deyteron, me poly megalh bebaiothta eipe, oti stis epomenes ekloges qa einai ypochfios boyleyths sto Reqymno. Apo poy antlei ayth th bebaiothta; Dioti, ap` o,ti jeroyme, toys eklogikoys katalogoys toys diamorfwnoyn o Prwqypoyrgos kai h Kentrikh Epitroph. Exei parei, hdh, kapoia diabebaiwsh oti qa einai ypochfios boyleyths;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai swsto apo th qesh toy kybernhtikoy ekproswpoy na kanw analyseis, gyrw apo mia synenteyjh, poy egine xqes kai den aforoyse kybernhtikh drasthriothta.

TAKHS: Aforoyse, omws, to komma sas. Kai mexri prin apo ligo o k. Neonakhs htan...

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa ayto poy eixa na pw. Topoqetoymai edw gia qemata poy aforoyn thn kybernhtikh drasthriothta. H xqesinh synenteyjh den aforoyse ayth th drasthriothta.

FILHS: Xqes, o Italos ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn (h xwra toy opoioy se ligo analambanei thn Proedria ths E.E.) dhlwse oti, se synennohsh me th Bretania prowqoyn th dhmioyrgia stratopedwn sygkentrwshs metanastwn sth Malta, thn Kypro kai alloy. Qa hqela na rwthsw ean ayto einai se gnwsh ths ellhnikhs Proedrias, ean ayto einai sto plaisio twn oswn symfwnhqhkan proxqes sth Xalkidikh kai ean qa yparjei antidrash ths ellhnikhs Proedrias se ayth th meqodeysh, h opoia oxi mono einai ektos twn diakhryjewn ths Proedrias, alla ap` o,ti fainetai einai kai enantion twn diakhryjewn ths.

PRWTOPAPAS: H qesh ths ellhnikhs Proedrias einai safhs kai peri aytoy den yparxei kamia amfibolia. Apo kei kai pera, plhroforhqhkame oti protiqetai h italikh Proedria. Den yparxei dhlwsh. Eida proqesh, dhladh, plhroforia. Ean yparxei kati newtero, den to gnwrizw. Alla, eida se meshmeriana xartia, dhmosiografikes plhrofories, peri proqesewn. Shmera, yparxei h ellhnikh Proedria, den einai dynato na topoqethqw epi ypoqetikwn proqesewn mias proedrias, h opoia ayth th stigmh den exei eyqynh. Otan erqei h stigmh kai ean ginei kati tetoio, na eiste bebaioi oti oi apoceis mas isxyoyn.

FILHS: Exete enhmerwqei eseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exei enhmerwqei gia kati tetoio h ellhnikh Proedria, h opoia exei safeis qeseis. Ean protiqetai na kanei otidhpote, se opoiodhpote qema h italikh Proedria, den ypoxreoytai ayth th stigmh na mas enhmerwsei. Ean h italikh Proedria meta apo mhnes qelhsei na ekfrasei kapoies protaseis, einai diko ths qema. Ean ginoyn oi protaseis na eiste bebaioi oti ws Ellada qa topoqethqoyme amesws.

FILHS: Gia thn enhmerwsh sas, sas lew oti, o Italos YPEJ, ayta ta dhlwse xqes kai ta metedwse to APE.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa diafwnhsoyme ekei. Yparxei, omws, mia pragmatikothta: Shmera yparxei h ellhnikh Proedria, h opoia exei safeis kai mh diapragmateysimes qeseis. Apo kei kai pera, ean ayrio kapoia allh proedria, eite h italikh, eite h epomenh, paroyn kapoies nees prwtoboylies kai tis ekdhlwsoyn, h topoqethsh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs qa einai safhs.

FILHS: Oi prwtoboylies aytes einai sto onoma twn ``15''. Den einai sto onoma mias xwras.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxoyn prwtoboylies sto onoma twn ``15''. Shmera exoyme ellhnikh Proedria kai ayth omilei ej onomatos twn ``15''. Oso diarkei h ellhnikh Proedria qa sas parakaloysa na meinoyme stis qeseis poy exoyme ekfrasei.

FILHS: H prwtoboylia ths italikhs Proedrias, ean ekdhlwqei apo ton k. Fratini, qa einai sto onoma twn ``15'' kai oxi sto onoma ths Italias.

PRWTOPAPAS: H ellhnikh Proedria exei safeis qeseis. Ayta exoyn syzhthqei kai ayta isxyoyn. Ean kapoios qelei sto mellon, gia kapoio qema poy den gnwrizoyme, na kanei nees protaseis, qa prepei na tis paroysiasei kai ep` aytwn qa topoqethqoyme.

FILHS: Oson afora to xqesino qema poy afhsame se ekkremothta kai aforoyse to ``chfiako fakelwma''...

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxei mia palaioterh protash ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, poy epibebaiwqhke sth Synodo ths Xalkidikhs, symfwna me thn opoia, ean enas poliths zhthsei biza gia thn eisodo se xwra, thn opoia isxyei h Synqhkh Sengken, prepei peran twn eggrafwn na yparxei kai enas hlektronikos tropos , poy na apodeiknyei oti pragmati einai aytos, eite ayto ginetai me apotypwma, eite me kapoion allon tropo. Afora thn eisodo se ``xwra Sengken'', gia apodeijh ths taytoproswpeias toy. Einai mia palia protash, thn opoia exei epejergastei h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, alla den exei oloklhrwqei akomh. To Symboylio Koryfhs eneqarryne thn proodo ayths ths prwtoboylias.

FILHS: Ennoeite oti ta gewmetrika xarakthristika twn anqrwpwn aforoyn tis bizes; Yparxoyn dhmosieymena ntokoymenta ths Synodoy Koryfhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn anqrwpoi poy einai kaq ylhn armodioi.

FILHS: Sto Symboylio ypoyrgwn Dikaiosynhs 5-6 Ioynioy, ontws den yparxei kamia anafora gia ta gewmetrika xarakthristika, oson afora ta eyrwpaika diabathria. Sto Symboylio Koryfhs, omws, sth Xalkidikh -kai mporeite na diabasete to keimeno, poy exei dhmosieyqei- yparxei anafora gia ta diabathria twn politwn ths E.E. poy qa exoyn gewmetrika xarakthristika. Einai allagh qeshs se 20 hmeres. Peite mas ti symbainei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas ejhghsa. Ean qelete to dexeste, ean oxi mporeite na bgalete ta symperasmata sas eleyqera. Exoyme Dhmokratia sthn Ellada. Symfwna me thn epishmh enhmerwsh poy exw, sas lew oti sto Eyrwpaiko Symboylio se mia paragrafo -opws eipate- yparxei mia problech gia na enqarrynqoyn h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph kai oles oi armodies Arxes, na proxwrhsoyn se mia sxetikh ryqmish, poy afora thn eisodo politwn apo xwres poy den kalyptei h Synqhkh Sengken, stis xwres poy kalyptei h Synqhkh. Ekei, ektos ths bizas epejergazetai h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph thn yparjh enos apodeiktikoy stoixeioy hlektronikoy typoy, opoy qa einai apotypwmena kapoia idiaitera xarakthristika, wste na ejasfalizetai h anagkaia taytoproswpeia symfwna me ta eggrafa. Peri aytoy prokeitai.

FILHS: Gia thn plhrothta ths enhmerwshs sas, diabazw apo ta praktika ths Synodoy Koryfhs: ``Se ayto to plaisio apaiteitai mia synektikh proseggish ths E.E. oson afora ta gewmetrika, anagnwristika stoixeia h ta gewmetrika dedomena, poy qa dinoyn enarmonismenes lyseis gia ta eggrafa twn yphkown tritwn xwrwn, ta diabathria twn politwn ths E.E. kai ta systhmata plhroforiwn''. Milaei gia ta diabathria mas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa ti akribws afora. Den gnwrizete oti den xreiazetai diabathrio stis xwres Sengken;

FILHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to keimeno poy sas diabasa einai Symperasmata h oxi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean gnwrizete th Synqhkh Sengken, qa jerate oti gia na paw se xwra Sengken den xreiazetai diabathrio.

FILHS: To keimeno ayto se antiqesh me tis apofaseis, stis 5-6 Ioynioy, twn ypoyrgwn Dikaiosynhs den anaferei gia eyrwpaika diabathria. H ``foberh'' proxqesinh Proedria, dexqhke gia eyrwpaika diabathria ``chfiako fakelwma''. To krybete apo ton ellhniko lao ayto to qema;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa ti afora. Einai gia thn eisodo se xwres Sengken.

FILHS: Se eyrwpaika diabathria, qa bazete ``tsipakia'';

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn xwres, oi opoies einai h qa ginoyn melh ths E.E. kai den kalyptontai apo th Synqhkh Sengken. Se aytes tis periptwseis gia thn eisodo apo mia xwra poy den kalyptetai apo th Synqhkh Sengken, se mia xwra poy kalyptetai apo th Synqhkh, qa zhthqoyn epipleon xarakthristika. Eimai safhs.

FILHS: Den eiste safhs. Den jerete to qema kai qa parakaloysa apo to YPEJ poy xeirizetai to qema na sas dwsei mia apanthsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eimai safhs, opws einai kai h Synqhkh Sengken. Apo to YPEJ phra tis plhrofories moy.

FILHS: Dystyxws den einai safhs h apanthsh sas, fakelwma twn politwn einai.

PRWTOPAPAS: H apanthsh moy einai safestath. Eseis exete dikaiwma na gracete o,ti qelete.

KALARITHS: Ayth h ryqmish qa isxyei gia krath-melh ths E.E. genikws poy den einai melh ths Synqhkhs Sengken;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prepei na to kanw pio safes; Pisteyw oti gnwrizete ta peri ths Synqhkhs Sengken.

KALARITHS: Katalaba. H ryqmish ayth qa isxyei gia krath-melh ths E.E. poy den einai, omws, melh ths Synqhkhs Sengken.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai gia trites xwres.

KALARITHS: H ellhnikh Proedria frontise na diasfalisei oti ayto den qa epektaqei kai se krath-melh ths Synqhkhs Sengken kai en prokeimenw se Ellhnes polites;

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan tiqetai ena erwthma kai apantw, qelw na gnwrizete oti prin topoqethqw -kai thn idia taktikh akoloyqw epi 20 mhnes poy briskomai sth qesh toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy- frontizw na enhmerwnomai, na plhroforoymai, na meletw, dioti den mporoyme na ta gnwrizoyme ola. Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, plhroforhqhka egkyra apo toys armodioys toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, poy synetajan ta eggrafa, oti yparxei to ejhs qema: Edw kai arketo kairo, h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph epishmane ena problhma: Pws, otan mpainei kapoios se mia xwra poy anhkei sth Synqhkh Sengken proerxomenos apo xwra poy den einai entagmenh sth Synqhkh Sengken (xwra-melos h xwra mh melos ths E.E.), zhtoyntai kapoia eggrafa, diabathrio h allos typos pistopoihtikwn eggrafwn. Peran twn pistopoihtikwn eggrafwn, ta opoia qewroyntai, isws, oxi apolytws asfalh, yparxei mia topoqethsh ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs na yparjoyn kapoies hlektronikes kartes h kati tetoio (kai to lew ayto giati den exei oloklhrwqei h diadikasia ayth) opoy na einai apotypwmena kapoia xarakthristika toy atomoy poy erxetai, prokeimenoy na epibebaiwqei h taytoproswpia. Apokleistikos stoxos einai aytos, h epibebaiwsh ths taytoproswpias. Gia paradeigma, anaferw, kapoio daktyliko apotypwma. Otan oloklhrwqei h diadikasia ayth apo thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, prepei to atomo ayto na frontisei na promhqeytei kai th sxetikh karta h diabathrio h kati allo, poy qa apofasistei gia to skopo poy sas eipa. Gi` ayto milw gia mia diadikasia ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs poy brisketai se ejelijh kai h opoia synodeyetai apo polla diazeyktika. Qa prepei kapoy na einai apotypwmena kai ayta ta stoixeia, eite prokeitai gia diabathrio h gia kapoio allo pistopoihtiko eggrafo. Dhladh, qa prepei na mporei na apodeijei safws oti prokeitai peri taytoproswpias. Den katalabainw poy einai to fakelwma. To daktyliko apotypwma, gia paradeigma, qa eklambanetai se ena diabathrio poy perilambanei th fwtografia toy katoxoy kai thn ypografh toy ws ypopto kai na enoxlei; Sas parakalw.

FILHS: Profanws, gnwrizete oti sthn Ellada stis taytothtes ayto katarghqhke. Deyteron, h korh toy matioy ti nohma exei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exei jekaqaristei ayto, giati den exei oloklhrwqei h diadikasia.

FILHS: Anaferei biometrika xarakthristika. Den leei gia apotypwma, poy einai safes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanalambanw oti den exei jekaqaristei apo thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph poia qa einai ekeina ta xarakthristika poy qa prosdiorizoyn thn taytoproswpia. Gnwrizete oti einai mia arketa megalh istoria, me arketo kostos, arketh talaipwria kai den protiqetai, oyte h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, oyte kamia xwra-melos ths E.E. h apo ekeines poy hdh symmetexoyn, na talaipwrhqei gyrw apo ayto. Ara, qa breqoyn aploi tropoi, diafanoi kai safeis, poy kanena na mhn prosballoyn, alla parallhla na pistopoioyn oti to proswpo poy ferei ena eggrafo einai to idio kai na pistopoieitai ayto me ton pleon sygxrono tropo, poy qa einai apodektos apo oloys. H Eyrwpaikh Epitroph epejergazetai to qema ayto. H apofash toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, pragmati -opws sas eipa kai sthn arxikh topoqethsh moy- enqarrynei thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph na proxwrhsei se sxetikes epejergasies kai na oloklhrwsei ayto to ergo, poy den einai twrino, alla ekkremei edw kai poly kairo. Den katalabainw, omws, ayto poy eseis epimenete na onomazete "fakelwma". Otan kapoios prokeitai na episkefqei kapoia xwra den qa prepei na exei mazi toy synodeytika eggrafa;

FILHS: Na sas ejhghsw: Otan topoqethqei ena tsip sto diabathrio enos polith, ayto epiferei polla problhmata, metajy twn opoiwn kai thn parakoloyqhsh toy@

PRWTOPAPAS: Ejartatai ti qa periexei to tsip.

FILHS: Ara, loipon, h syzhthsh gia to tsipaki anoigei mia syzhthsh parakoloyqhshs twn politwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Sas diabebaiwnw oti den einai etsi.

FILHS: To kinhto thlefwno, otan einai energo kai to exoyme panw mas anoikto, dinei stigma poy briskomaste.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora ta kinhta thlefwna, to gnwrizw. Alla, edw den einai etsi. H ryqmish qa apoblepei apokleistika -gi` ayto meleta akoma to qema h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph- s` ayto poy hdh sas eipa.

FILHS: To tsip, ti xreiazetai tote;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh akoma den mporw na sas epibebaiwsw to tsip, lew oti h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph meleta ena plegma tropwn, wste me safh, diafano kai mh epikindyno gia ton polith tropo, na pistopoieitai aplws to proswpo to opoio eiserxetai se xwra Sengken. Dioti, oi mexri twra tropoi, symfwna me toys eidikoys den katoxyrwnoyn ej oloklhroy oti o feromenos ws "x" poliths einai pragmati aytos. Epeidh h texnologia exei proxwrhsei kai sthn ejapathsh twn Arxwn, einai logiko oi Arxes na xrhsimopoioyn pio prohgmenoys texnologika tropoys, prokeimenoy na diasfalizoyn oti o eiserxomenos einai pragmati aytos. Tipota perissotero. Anarwtiemai, poy einai to fakelwma. Me to xeri sthn kardia: Otan bgei h telikh apofash, qa sas apodeijoyme -kai qa to kataferoyme- oti den yparxei kapoios sxetikos kindynos. Ayth einai h proqesh mas. To jekaqarizw.

FILHS: Sxetiko aithma exei ypobalei h amerikanikh pleyra, zhtwntas mexri toy xronoy ton Oktwbrh na exei teleiwsei ayth h diadikasia. To gnwrizete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw.

LAMPRAKOS: Epeidh plhsiazei to prwto 10hmero toy Ioylioy kai meta apo osa synebhsan kai tis teleytaies hmeres kai aforoysan kai to proswpo sas, hqela na sas rwthsw ean aisqaneste ypo proqesmia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ti erwthsh einai ayth; Dhladh, qa exoyme pali ta gnwsta senaria sta opoia areskeste; Exw topoqethqei apo xqes, oti ayta ta pragmata den ajizoyn sxoliasmoy. Kai den qa kanw sxoliasmoys..

FILHS: Oloi oi ypoyrgoi den einai ypo proqesmia, analoga me th boylhsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti den kanw sxoliasmo.

FILHS: Genikws! Syntagmatika miloyme.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn epixeireite: Jerei poly kala ti leei o synadelfos sas. Anaferetai se senaria, den anaferetai genika. An anaferotan genikws, qa symfwnoysame. Anaferetai sta senaria ta opoia, kaqe ligo kai ligaki, blepoyn to fws ths dhmosiothtas kai einai diaforetika to ena apo to allo. Fantazomai oti orismenoi analytes -to dieykrinizw gia na mhn yparxei parejhghsh- qa exoyn proqesh na dhmioyrghsoyn kai diaforetika senaria. Loipon, apantw, ek twn proterwn se ola ayta ta senaria, oti den ajizoyn sxoliasmoy kai den qa kanw sxolia.

SOYGLERHS: Ektimate oti ta senaria ta dhmioyrgoyn anqrwpoi ths ejoysias se ayth th fash;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean exete kati to opoio den gnwrizw, na to dhlwsete.

SOYGLERHS: E, oxi! Eseis na mas peite.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporw na kanw ektimhseis; Einai swsto;

Sas eyxaristw.


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