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Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-09-22

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 22 Septembrioy 2003

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy ayth thn ebdomada.

Ayth thn wra, o Prwqypoyrgos exei synanthsh me thn Proedro toy ``AQHNA-2004'' Gianna Aggelopoyloy, me antikeimeno thn proetoimasia ths ayrianhs Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs.

Stis 14.00 qa exei synanthsh me to Dioikhth ths Eqnikhs Trapezas Qeodwro Karatza.

Ayrio, stis 9:30 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me ton yfypoyrgo Gewrgias Fwth Xatzhmixalh, gia to sxedio nomoy gia ta dash. O k. Drys brisketai se Atypo Symboylio Ypoyrgwn Gewrgias.

Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa synedriasei h Epitroph gia to syntonismo ths Olympiakhs Proetoimasias. Qa prohghqei synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton ypoyrgo Politismoy Eyaggelo Benizelo.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh me to Grammatea toy PASOK Mixalh Xrysoxoidh, me ton ypofainomeno kai ton yfypoyrgo Thlemaxo Xythrh, gia epikoinwniaka qemata.

Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Oyggarias. Sth synexeia qa ginoyn dhlwseis.

Thn Pempth, stis 7 to apogeyma, qa exei synanthsh gia ta oikonomika twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, paroysia ths politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn, twn kyriwn N. Xristodoylakh, Xr. Paxta, N. Farmakh, toy ypoyrgoy Politismoy E. Benizeloy, toy yfypoyrgoy N. Aleyra kai toy Grammatea Olympiakwn Agwnwn K. Kartalh. Yparxei piqanothta thn Pempth na synedriasei kybernhtiko organo, alla ayto qa oristei, endexomenws, mexri ayrio to meshmeri.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei tis egkatastaseis toy Agioy Kosma.

Stis 11:30 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Niko Xristodoylakh.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas qelw na kanw eisagwgika dyo dhlwseis:

@ H prwth epishmansh afora ena tmhma, gia to opoio yparxei kai h dhlwsh moy ths Paraskeyhs, ths gnwsths ypoqeshs twn 10 dis draxmwn, to opoio ypotiqetai oti brhke h N.D. apo thn ekqesh ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas, h opoia, ws gnwston, den yphrxe. Me thn eykairia ayth qelw na jekaqarisw to ejhs: Kapoia stigmh to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs qa prepei na sobareytei stoixeiwdws. Den einai dynaton na ginontai analyseis -kai malista apo ton idio ton arxhgo toy kommatos- oi opoies den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Kai den exoyn kamia sxesh gia dyo logoys: O prwtos einai giati ayth h ekqesh den htan ths EKT. Kai o deyteros logos, einai oti den anaferontai kan se ayth thn ekqesh ayta poy paroysiase o k. Karamanlhs. Prokeitai gia ekqesh melethtwn, oi opoioi den exoyn kamia epishmh idiothta. Qa sas dianeimw enan pinaka, o opoios deixnei oti h Ellada exei petyxei megalh proodo se sxesh me tis alles xwres. Kai ayth akomh h atyph ergasia kapoiwn eidikwn anqrwpwn, apodeiknyei oti h xwra mas exei shmeiwsei megalh proodo sta zhthmata ayta. Qeloyme na jekaqarisoyme, loipon, kati: H o k. Karamanlhs syneidhta ejapathse, opote deixnei thn politikh poy akoloyqei to komma toy kai prepei na zhthsei sygnwmh apo ton ellhniko lao h o k. Karamanlhs parasyrqhke, opote prepei na apolysei to symboylo poy ton odhghse se ayto to laqos. Perimenoyme thn apanthsh ths N.D. kai ean xreiastei, qa epanelqoyme.

@ H deyterh eisagwgikh dhlwsh ginetai, dioti blepw ston Typo kapoies anafores gyrw apo ton tropo ypologismoy toy posostoy ths anergias. Ayta ta opoia grafoyn orismenoi analytes -kai anaferomai se anqrwpoys mesa apo to xwro sas- den einai swsta. To akoysa kai ws epixeirhma apo th N.D. H xrhsh ths apografhs toy 1991 ginetai mono gia ton tropo epiloghs ths deigmatolhcias. Den exei kamia sxesh me toys ariqmoys. Mporei, dhladh, na ephreasei mono to posa noikokyria qa episkefqei h ESYE se ena oikodomiko tetragwno h se kapoia polh. Tipota allo. Aqroistika, o ariqmos twn noikokyriwn einai o idios. To eqniko pososto anergias se tipota den ephreazetai apo tis episkeceis, apo th statistikh deigmatolhptikh epilogh twn episkecewn ths ESYE. To eqniko pososto anergias se tipota den ephreazetai. Qa mporoyse kapoios na isxyristei oti piqanon na ephreastoyn topika pososta. Piqanon, alla mexri ekei. Sto eqniko pososto den yparxei epirroh, dioti o synolikos ariqmos toy deigmatos einai o idios. Kala qa kanoyn, loipon, aytoi oi opoioi prospaqoyn na poyn oti h anergia den einai 8,9% , alla einai parapanw, na ereynhsoyn kai pali to qema. Prepei na ginei katanohto oti orismena pragmata exoyn allajei kai oti orismenes kinhseis einai apotelesma toy kybernhtikoy ergoy se orismena qemata kai idiaitera ston eyaisqhto tomea ths anergias. Safws yparxei anagkh gia doyleia akoma, alla den mporoyme oyte na mhn anagnwrizoyme, oyte na prospaqoyme na diastreblwsoyme, oyte na prospaqoyme na apokrycoyme thn pragmatikothta. H anergia exei meiwqei xarhn sthn politikh mas, ta metra kai th Xarta Oikonomikhs kai Koinwnikhs Sygklishs. H anergia qa synexisei na meiwnetai.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MPOTWNHS: Ta benzinadika einai kai pali kleista, taji den yparxoyn. Apo th mia pleyra oi benzinopwles lene oti ejapathqhkan apo thn kybernhsh kai apo thn prosfath symfwnia poy eixan kanei kai gi ayto kleinoyn shmera kai apo thn allh pleyra h kybernhsh leei oti kalws exoyn ta pragmata. Ti symbainei telika;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, qelw na elpizw oti stis 15:00 poy qa synanthqoyn, qa breqei lysh. Oloi qeloyme na breqei lysh. Na jekaqarisoyme, omws, kati: Prwton, h symfwnia poy egine threitai kai qa thrhqei kata gramma. Deyteron, den mporei na yparxei Ellhnas poy den forologeitai, para monon aytoi poy einai katw apo to elaxisto orio eisodhmatos. Kai den mporei na yparxei oikonomikh drasthriothta poy na mh forologeitai. Den yparxoyn Ellhnes ligotero h perissotero isoi enanti toy nomoy. H prostasia toy dhmosioy symferontos epiballei na forologoyntai oles oi oikonomikes drasthriothtes, epomenws kai oi benzinopwles kai h pwlhsh ths benzinhs. Triton, oi idioi oi benzinopwles eixan kataggeilei laqremporia kaysimwn. Ta metra poy lambanontai me tis tameiakes mhxanes qa mas prostatecoyn apo ekeinoys, toys opoioys oi idioi kathggeilan oti askoyn laqremporia. H kybernhsh qa proxwrhsei se ayto to metro. Dexetai syzhthsh kai ekane syzhthsh gyrw apo tis texnikes synqhkes efarmoghs toy. H symfwnia isxyei aparegklita. Opws isxyei kai aparegklita h apofash mas na prostateytei to dhmosio symferon kai na yparjei forologhsh se oles tis oikonomikes drasthriothtes. Kai ayto den einai diapragmateysimo.

IWANNOY: Ti exete problecei ean tyxon synexistei h apergia kai krathsei polles hmeres; Hdh, xqes oi oyres, ap` o,ti eidame, htan xiliometrwn gia na promhqeytoyn ta aytokinhta benzinh.

PRWTOPAPAS: As perimenoyme th synanthsh. Mhn protrexoyme.

MIXAHL: H kybernhsh qewrei apo ton tropo me ton opoio jekina h apergia oti yparxoyn kai kinhtra alloy eidoys, piqanon politika, apenanti ths, ayth thn periodo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Se ayth thn apergia den ektimw oti einai politika ta kinhtra.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Se poies apergies qewreite oti einai politika ta kinhtra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den kanoyme analysh ayth th stigmh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate se ayth thn apergia. Se poia allh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Se kapoia allh qa me janarwthsete.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn kai alles apergies. Sta Panepisthmia, sta taji, einai politikes oi apergies;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mh bazete sto stoma moy pragmata poy den eipa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas rwtaw, sta Panepisthmia h sta taji, einai politikes oi apergies;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanalambanw, mh bazete sto stoma moy pragmata poy den eipa.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Me aformh th dhlwsh poy kanate gia to an yparxei h den yparxei ayth h ekqesh ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas, exw mprosta moy ena dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas "TA NEA", me hmeromhnia 29/8/2003, me titlo "Prwth se kratikh spatalh kai diafqora h xwra mas". Stoixeia sok gia thn Ellada se meleth oikonomologwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas...

PRWTOPAPAS: Opoios eixe episkefqei th selida sto diadiktyo ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas, qa eblepe oti den einai dikh ths ayth h meleth. To grafei, allwste.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Giati, loipon, den antidrasate tote, otan mia efhmerida megalhs kykloforias kai malista proskeimenh sto kybernwn komma, dhmosieyse ayta ta pragmata;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den antidikoyme me efhmerides, oyte me dhmosiografoys. H diafwnia mas einai politikh.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Polles fores diaceydete dhmosieymata.

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan mas aforoyn, ta diaceydoyme. Exoyme politikh diafwnia, me thn taktikh toy k. Karamanlh, o opoios prospaqhse na ejapathsei ton ellhniko lao, eite syneidhta, eite den diabase, eite parasyrqhke, opote prepei na apolysei to symboylo toy. Egina safhs; Enas dhmosiografos mporei na gracei to a@, to b@, to g@ kai ayto na kriqei apo toys anagnwstes toy. Sthn Ellada exoyme eleyqerotypia, opws gnwrizete. O k. Karamanlhs, omws, den krinetai apo toys anagnwstes toy, alla apo ton ellhniko lao.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Poses fores sas exoyme akoysei na diaceydete dhmosieymata;

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Gia to sygkekrimeno rwtw.

PRWTOPAPAS: An htan na diaceydw dhmosieymata, qa eprepe na diaceydw toys synadelfoys sas, edw, kaqe mera. Den qa kanw ayth th doyleia. Allos einai o rolos mas. Den einai na trexoyme pisw apo dhmosieymata.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Edw, omws, dhmosieyontai pinakes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den katalabainw poio einai to problhma sas. To idio epipedo politikhs antiparaqeshs qa kanw me sas, poy grafete se mia efhmerida kai to idio qa kanw me ton arxhgo ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs; Den nomizw oti einai swsto.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Giati den bgalate mia apanthsh, gi@ ayto to dhmosieyma;

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa.

POYLIDOY: Ayto poy mas dwsate einai apospasma apo ena eggrafo ergasias. Eseis lete oti einai apo thn idia meleth poy epikalesthke o k. Karamanlhs h apo allh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai apo thn idia meleth opoy, sthn prwth selida ths, h Eyrwpaikh Kentrikh Trapeza jekaqarizei oti den th desmeyoyn ayta ta pragmata. Qa eprepe na ta exoyn diabasei ayta. Apla, epeidh htan kapoioi anqrwpoi poy eixan ena baqmo syndeshs mazi ths, to ebale sto site ths kai apo ekei parasyrqhke, an parasyrqhke kai den to ekane epithdes, h N.D.. Giati, afhsa periqwrio gia dyo ekdoxes. H mia na ofeiletai se syneidhth kinhsh kai h deyterh na einai enas anqrwpos, o opoios proxeirologhse kai den diabase kala. Sth mia periptwsh, exoyme ejapathsh toy ellhnikoy laoy kai sth deyterh mia xontroeidh gkafa, poy prepei toylaxiston na epiferei kapoia apolysh twn anqrwpwn poy kanoyn ayta ta pragmata. Perimenoyme thn apanthsh apo th N.D.. Alla kai sth deyterh periptwsh, akomh ki an kaneis arxise na syzhta ekqeseis poy den einai epishmes, alla einai toy x@, toy, c@ h toy w@, fysikoy dhladh proswpoy, pali h ekqesh den anaferei ayto poy lene. Kai sth deyterh periptwsh apodeiknyetai oti kaneis den mphke ston kopo na th diabasei. Dioti, leei kaqara oti h Ellada einai anamesa stis xwres poy exoyn kanei terasties prospaqeies sto dhmosio tomea.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Xwris apotelesmata.

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan exeis kanei terastia prospaqeia, exeis kai apotelesmata. Alliws, den qa ebazan thn Ellada sthn anw kathgoria.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinish: H efhmerida epikaleitai thn Eyrwpaikh Kentrikh Trapeza. Einai ceydes to dhmosieyma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na qymamai ti egrafe h efhmerida prin apo treis mhnes. Den qa apanthsw, oso kai na rwtate. Alla, safws qymamai ti eipe o k. Karamanlhs. Ayth, allwste, einai h doyleia moy.

SIDERHS: Akoysame, shmera, se radiofwniko spotaki, ton k. Xythrh na leei, me aformh tis nomimopoihseis poy hqele na kanei o Katsigiannhs, oti h kybernhsh ths N.D. einai geloia, soypermarket kai mesitiko grafeio. Giati aytoi oi xarakthrismoi den prosidiazoyn kai sth dikh sas kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Dioti h dikh mas kybernhsh den eixe, den exei kai den qa exei sxesh me ta "katsigiannia" texnasmata. An eixate diabasei to sxedio nomoy -opws kai aytoi poy empneontai tetoies kinhseis- poy paroysiase h ypoyrgos PEXWDE B. Papandreoy, qa eixate dei oti yparxei ena sygkekrimeno sxedio gia th beltiwsh, thn apotelesmatikothta kai ton kalytero elegxo ths adeias oikodomhs. Den exoyme nomimopoihseis, alla kaqara mia anqrwpinh dieykolynsh, gia mia sygkekrimenh xronikh periodo, se anqrwpoys poy elpizoyn oti mporei na paroyn adeia. As exoyn, loipon, aytoi oi anqrwpoi, mexri na ginoyn oi meletes, reyma kai nero. An ayta ta dyo metajy toys einai omoia pragmata, exoyme xasei th shmasia ths lejhs "omoios". Exoyme paei se qeatro toy paralogoy, to opoio, oyte moy aresei, oyte qa to akoloyqhsw. Toylaxiston sthn politikh, den tairiazei.

KWNSTANTHS: Apanthsate to Sabbatokyriako kai endexomenws na moy dwsete thn idia apanthsh, alla qa hqela na epanelqw, anaforika me aytes tis tesseris dhmoskophseis, stis opoies fainetai, ligo prin tis ekloges, oti h N.D. pagiwnei mia diafora toylaxiston epta monadwn, enw eseis fainetai na epixaireste gia th diafora ston katallhlotero Prwqypoyrgo, poy einai sta oria toy statistikoy laqoys. Einai sto 3,5%.

PRWTOPAPAS: Etsi einai, ean etsi nomizete, symfwna me ton Pirantelo.

KARGOYDH: Apo tis prwtes sas antidraseis gia tis dhmoskophseis apokomisa oti perimenate isws pio shmantika apotelesmata apo tis anakoinwseis twn prohgoymenwn hmerwn, ennow to koinwniko paketo kai th Xarta. Katalaba kala h sas ikanopoioyn oi metrhseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Isxyei h apanthsh poy edwsa thn prohgoymenh Paraskeyh, opoy, xwris na gnwrizw tis dhmoskophseis, eipa orismena pragmata. Gia osoys exoyn mpei ston kopo na diabasoyn tis dhmoskophseis kai den diabazoyn mono titloys, qa doyn oti dhmioyrgeitai ena neo politiko klima. Ean den yparxei syneidhsh oti dhmioyrgeitai ena neo politiko klima, shmainei oti den exoyn diabasei prosektika tis dhmoskophseis. Dioti den einai mono h poly megalh meiwsh ths diaforas sthn parastash nikhs. Kai bebaiws, den einai statistiko laqos oi treishmisi monades empistosynhs sto proswpo toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Isa-isa, poy dieyrynqhke fobera se oles tis dhmoskophseis kai ayto deixnei oti h epikoinwniakh ekstrateia toy k. Karamanlh ton metebale aplws se ysterografo ths politikhs mas. Apetyxe oiktra. Omws, yparxei kai ena allo stoixeio. Se 19 erwthseis gyrw apo thn ikanothta diakybernhshs -kai xrhsimopoiw apolytws sygkrisima stoixeia- ton Ioynio oi dhmoskophseis edeixnan to PASOK na yperexei se 3 h se 4. Twra, oi dhmoskophseis deixnoyn to PASOK na yperexei se 12 kai na exei meiwsei th diafora sta ypoloipa sta oria toy elaxistoy. Opoios den ta blepei, mporei na synexisei na traba to dromo toy. Emeis qa trabhjoyme to diko mas, poy einai h doyleia mas, h efarmogh toy programmatos mas, h probolh toy oramatos mas kai oi kinhseis poy qa ginoyn mesa apo to komma mas gia ena sygxrono politiko logo, mia sygxronh organwsh kai mia baqia ananewsh twn chfodeltiwn mas, opws exei anaferei kai o G.G. toy PASOK M. Xrysoxoidhs.

TSAKIRHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, wstoso den sas anhsyxei to gegonos, opws apotypwnetai stis dhmoskophseis, oti oi metakinhseis stoys chfoforoys twn dyo kommatwn einai idiaitera arnhtikes gia sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto katagrafetai , edw kai kairo, ws proqesh. Omws, oi idioi anqrwpoi poy katagrafoyn mia proqesh sto ena shmeio, katagrafoyn kai mia diaforopoihmenh symperifora sto deytero. Fantazomai oti prwta diaforopoieis th symperifora soy apenanti sthn akoloyqoymenh politikh kai stis prooptikes ths kai sth synexeia thn proqesh chfoy soy. To ena epetai toy alloy. En pash periptwsei, den kybername me tis dhmoskophseis. Aytes oi dhmoskophseis periexoyn ena diaforetiko stoixeio, deixnoyn oti dhmioyrgeitai ena diaforetiko klima. Gia na mporesei, omws, ayto na ginei staqero kai na katagrafei ws mia eikona politika diaforetikh, qelei doyleia. Apaitei synexish toy ergoy mas, prosoxh panta sthn ajiopistia mas, qelei probolh ths prooptikhs mas, qelei na perasoyme ston kosmo ayta ta opoia ejaggelloyme kai na ginoyn prajh. Kai bebaiws, na proxwrhsoyme se baqos tis allages poy exoyme ejaggeilei se oloys toys tomeis kai sto komma mas.

Gnwrizoyme poly kala oti ayto to neo politiko klima poy dhmioyrgeitai mporei na dhmioyrghsei tis proypoqeseis gia nikh toy PASOK stis ekloges. Kai s@ ayth thn kateyqynsh qa badisoyme.

GARGALAKOS: Ayto hqela na sas rwthsw ki egw kai malista se synarthsh, an qelete fysika na to sxoliasete, me to oti, otan kerdisate tis ekloges toy 2000, ton prohgoymeno Septembrio, prin apo tis ekloges, to probadisma ths N.D. htan mexri treis monades, tote. Twra, omws, einai mexri eji h epta monades. Ayto den sas anhsyxei; Giati eimaste peripoy ston idio eklogiko xrono.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti paramones eyrweklogwn katagrafhke diafora deka monadwn kai kerdisame tis ekloges. Qymhqeite oti ton Ioynio, sto erwthma poy apeyqynotan pros toys polites gyrw apo th diakybernhsh ths xwras, yphrxe mia strofh, mia elpida poy eixe arxisei tote na diafainetai yper ths N.D. Ayth h elpida antestrafh kai malista antestrafh me idiaitera entono tropo stis twrines ereynes. Fainetai kaqara oti den perimenei tipota pia o kosmos apo th N.D. Ti shmainei ayto; Shmainei oti emeis prepei na kanoyme th doyleia mas, na proballoyme thn prooptikh mas kai n@ allajoyme ta pragmata. Allagh me sigoyria. O Kwstas Shmiths mporei na to eggyhqei. Kai na prosqesw kai kati allo: Qa hqela na kalesw oloys aytoys poy syzhtoyn gyrw apo tis dhmoskophseis, na doyn kai ta stelexh poy diaqetei to kaqe komma, giati ayto einai para poly shmantiko kai na sygkrinoyn. An ginei sygkrish qa diapistwsete oti h N.D. prospaqei na dwsei th maxh me epikefalhs ta idia proswpa, toys idioys anqrwpoys stoys epimeroys tomeis, oi opoioi eyqynontai gia thn tragwdia ths periodoy 1990-1993. Lene merikoi, gyrizoyme pisw. Giati allajane; Mhpws den qa einai sthn prwth grammh ths maxhs oi kyrioi Ebert, Mhtsotakhs, Barbitswths, Soyflias, Alogoskoyfhs, Sioyfas kai mia seira allwn stelexwn;

IWANNOY: Oyte eseis allajate ta stelexh sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ti lete; Den to kaname;

IWANNOY: Emeis stoys dhmofileis eidame ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo kai thn ka Papandreoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas kalw na sygkrinete thn kybernhsh toy 1994 -kai mhn sas ephreazoyn oi dhmofilies, giati oi dhmofilies katagrafoyn kai alla pragmata- kai thn kybernhsh toy 2003. An h mia einai h idia me thn allh, egw qa symfwnhsw apolyta mazi sas.

IWANNOY: Akoysa ton k. Flessa sto radiofwno toy Antena@

PRWTOPAPAS: Ton epikoinwniako symboylo ths N.D. lete. Na to tonisoyme ayto, gia na gnwrizomaste siga-siga.

IWANNOY: Egw qa hqela na sxoliasete ayta poy eipe. Akoysa, loipon, poy eipe oti sto deikth katallhlothtas ws Prwqypoyrgoy, qewrei oti mallon einai yper toy k. Karamanlh aytes oi treis monades diaforas. Exei kai epixeirhma, oti o k. Shmiths einai Prwqypoyrgos epi polla xronia kai einai epishs epi polla xronia prwtoklasato stelexos kai epikefalhs megalwn ypoyrgeiwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Tetoia leei o k. Flessas kai anhlqe h diafora metajy toy k. Shmith kai toy k. Karamanlh apo 0,8% se 3,3%. Mporei na synexisei.

Sas eyxaristw.


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