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Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-06-03

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 3 Ioynioy 2004

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos, shmera to prwi, episkefqhke to Qriaseio Nosokomeio sthn Eleysina. Opws gnwrizete, einai ena sxetika kainoyrgio nosokomeio. Leitoyrghse to 1996 me sygxrones ypodomes, omws oi elleiceis iatrikoy kai kyriws noshleytikoy proswpikoy, me ayjhsh malista twn peristatikwn poy antimetwpizei kaqhmerina, den epitrepoyn mexri twra thn plhrh ajiopoihsh toy. Stoxos ths kybernhshs einai na epilyqei kaqe leitoyrgiko problhma, wste me thn plhrh stelexwsh toy, to nosokomeio na mporei na leitoyrghsei swsta tis nees monades toy kai na anadeixqei se perifereiako nosokomeio ths Dytikhs Attikhs.

Argotera, sto Megaro Majimoy, o Prwqypoyrgos synanthqhke, gia qemata ths armodiothtas ths, me thn ypoyrgo anaplhrwth Politismoy Fanh Petralia kai stis 7 to apogeyma qa synanthqei me ton Proedro toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy k. Pat Koj, o opoios episkeptetai thn Aqhna.

Epeidh arketes fores syzhtame gia arnhtika dhmosieymata, prepei na sas pw oti yparxei ena mparaz poly qetikwn dhmosieymatwn sto dieqnh Typo, alla kai sta radiothleoptika Mesa Enhmerwshs, poy aforoyn thn proetoimasia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, thn poreia pros toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, me aformh to xqesino tajidi ths Olympiakhs Flogas, poy jekinhse apo thn Aqhna kai gia prwth fora qa tajidecei kai stis pente hpeiroys.

Epishs, exw mia grapth erwthsh apo ton 902. H erwthsh einai ``an h kybernhsh protiqetai na stamathsei th diadikasia gia thn anazhthsh eqelontwn poy qa stelexwsoyn ton politiko-stratiwtiko mhxanismo toy NATO, poy qa epembainei se olon ton kosmo, opws problepetai apo eggrafo toy GEEQA, me hmeromhnia 6/2/2004, to opoio apokalyptei h efhmerida ``Rizospasths'', me dedomenoys toys kindynoys poy dhmioyrgoyntai gia th zwh twn Ellhnwn politwn, afoy endexetai na staloyn se empolemes perioxes''.

H apanthsh apo th Dieyqynsh Enhmerwshs toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas exei ws ejhs:

``H xwra mas, ws melos ths Symmaxias toy NATO, exei sygkekrimena dikaiwmata kai ypoxrewseis poy aporreoyn apo tis ypografeises entajiakes symfwnies. Gia to sygkekrimeno programma toy NATO, se o,ti afora thn Ellada, diereynatai h periptwsh ylopoihshs toy se eqelontikh bash kai afora kaqara eirhneytikes apostoles. Dhladh, yposthrijh plhqysmoy, diaswsh politistikwn mnhmeiwn kai alles sxetikes apostoles. Thn paroysa xronikh stigmh, to programma brisketai sto stadio diereynhshs ths proqesews symmetoxhs se ayto. Apo th stigmh poy qa katagrafei isxyrh eqelontikh proqesh symmetoxhs, tote qa qesmoqethqei kai to katallhlo nomoqetiko plaisio. H Ellada den protiqetai na apempolhsei dikaiwmata poy isxyropoioyn th dieqnh qesh ths''.

Eixa pei xqes, oti qa ekdoqei anakoinwsh gia to sxedio Anan, otan ayto doqei sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Sas plhroforw oti hdh exei ekdoqei anakoinwsh apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai fysika menoyme se ayth.

Telos, exei ekdoqei anakoinwsh apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Paideias kai Qrhskeymatwn gia ena qema dhqen diarrohs qematwn stis panelladikes ejetaseis.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MPOYATAR: H efhmerida ``TA NEA'' epanerxetai shmera sto qema twn enoplwn froyrwn gia toys jenoys aqlhtes stoys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Diaceydetai apo thn kybernhsh to dhmosieyma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H apanthsh einai kathgorhmatikh. Isxyei kai malista to ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs qa ekdwsei kai pali anakoinwsh. Prin apo ligo epikoinwnhsa me ton k. Boylgarakh kai h anakoinwsh isws exei, hdh, ekdoqei.

XIWTHS: Telikws, h kybernhsh yioqetei h oxi tis protaseis toy k. Meimarakh gi` ayta poy eipe kai en pash periptwsei na mhn ta ermhneyoyme emeis, giati o idios qewrei oti organa toy PASOK parermhneyoyn tis dhlwseis toy. Yioqetei tis protaseis toy k. Meimarakh h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa xqes. Na epanalabw akribws ti sas eipa: ``Yparxei agasth synergasia kai synennohsh, sto plaisio twn rolwn toy kaqenos''. Eida shmera kaq` yperbolh dhmosieymata. Epishs, exei kanei dhlwseis o k. Meimarakhs, nwritera to prwi, se radiofwniko staqmo, stis opoies anaferei @opws sas eipa kai xqes- oti tetoies protaseis, opws grafontai, den exoyn ginei pote apo ton idio.

XIWTHS: Sygxwreste moy thn epimonh. Epeidh exw plhroforhqei kai tis dhlwseis toy, o k. Meimarakhs yposthrizei oti oi ypoyrgoi dexontai tis protaseis toy. Emeis, omws, den exoyme thn idia aisqhsh. Rwtw, loipon, kai pali: h kybernhsh dexetai h oxi tis protaseis toy k. Meimarakh, opws diatypwnontai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me rwtate kati allo. Janalew: sta osa eipwqhkan h grafthkan peri Kentrwn Ejyphrethshs Politwn, h apanthsh poy doqhke xqes einai safhs. Thn epanalambanei kai shmera kai o k. Meimarakhs.

POYLIDOY: Apantate allo apo ayto poy sas rwtaei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw mprosta moy to keimeno twn dhlwsewn toy k. Meimarakh. Kai sto ena qema, to xqesino, kai sto allo qema gia protash dhmioyrgias, se kaqe ypoyrgeio, grafeioy ejyphrethshs boyleytwn, epishs apanta oti oyte ayto yparxei ws proqesh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Nai, alla milaei gia diayloys epikoinwnias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Diayloys epikoinwnias twn boyleytwn me to kaqe ypoyrgeio, pragma to opoio qewreitai aytonohto, opws kai o idios dhlwnei, oxi mono shmera, to exei janapei. Alimono, ean den yphrxan diayloi epikoinwnias ypoyrgwn me boyleytes olwn twn kommatwn.

KORAH: Se o,ti afora th deyterh protash toy k. Meimarakh gia th dhmioyrgia se kaqe ypoyrgeio enos organoy kentrikoy sxediasmoy, sto opoio qa symmetexei kai to komma, gia na kalycei to epikoinwniako elleimma, poy ektima oti yparxei shmera; Kai ayto to pairnei pisw o k. Meimarakhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa elega oti grafontai kapoia pragmata, kat` epanalhch. Eida shmera yperbolika dhmosieymata peri diastasewn apocewn, kontres, antiparaqesh k.l.p. Den yparxoyn tetoia pragmata. Yparxoyn endexomenws kapoies apoceis gia thn epikoinwniakh politikh h gia thn politikh sto alfa h bhta ypoyrgeio. Se agasth synergasia oloi oi ypoyrgoi metajy toys syzhtoyn gi ayta ta qemata.

KORAH: Epeidh epikalesthkate prin apo ligo tis dhlwseis toy, sto R/S FLASH, eipe -ola ayta ta dieceyse, exete dikio se ayto- oti allwste, oyte egw, oyte o k. Roysopoylos, eimaste afeleis gia na qesoyme ayto to qema twra. Ti ennooyse; Exete krymmena xartia ta opoia qa apokalycete meta tis eyrwekloges kai thn Olympiada;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxoyn poyqena krymmena xartia. Me thn erwthsh sas moy dinete thn aformh na pw oti den yparxoyn krymmena xartia oyte sthn politikh ths kybernhshs. Prin apo ligo akoysa ton k. Boygia na leei kati tetoio, opws ton akoysa, epishs, na prospaqei na ekmetalleyqei mia eikona dhqen asynennohsias kai problhmatwn mesa sthn kybernhsh. Antilambanomai gia poioys skopoys to kanei ayto to PASOK, opws to antilambanontai oloi oi Ellhnes polites. Stis dyskoles meres poy pernoyn prospaqei na metaqesei to diko toys problhma sthn allh pleyra. Den nomizw, omws, oti qa ta kataferei.

SOYGLERHS: Meta apo esas gia thn agasth synergasia, oi ypoloipoi ypoyrgoi exete thn ektimhsh oti o k. Meimarakhs exei thn idia synergasia, sto idio epipedo; Mhpws exei parapona apo kapoioys alloys synadelfoys sas, ayto to diasthma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Par` o,ti den einai dokimo na apanthsw ek meroys toy, qa sas epanalabw thn apanthsh toy, oti den exei kanena problhma.

GKOYTZANHS: Aytoi oi diayloi epikoinwnias, gia toys opoioys milhse o k. Meimarakhs kai dexqhkate, ti morfh qa apokthsoyn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Diaylos epikoinwnias einai kai aytos poy exoyme edw, twra. Synomiloyn oi ypoyrgoi me toys boyleytes, oi boyleytes me toys ypoyrgoys. Sth N.D. h syzhthsh einai o yp` ariqmon ena kanonas gia na breqoyn lyseis sta problhmata.

POYLIDOY: Qa kanoyn enhmerwsh oi ypoyrgoi stoys boyleytes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa kanoyn ayto poy epiballei h Dhmokratia mas. Qa synomiloyn.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Anaferqhkate ston k. Boygia, o opoios prin apo ligo efere sygkekrimena paradeigmata: Eipe oti mataiwqhke enas diagwnismos gia 25.000 qeseis kai oti metakinhqhkan ychlobaqma stelexh apo thn Eqnikh Trapeza. Ektos aytoy, eipe oti oi dhlwseis poy eginan apo ton k. Soyflia kai ton k. Alogoskoyfh, oson afora thn Olympiada, den eginan tyxaia, alla oysiastika oti proetoimazoyn ton kosmo gia ta metra litothtas poy qa parei h kybernhsh, apo to Septembrio kai meta. Ti exete na peite;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ap` o,ti akoyw eipe polla. Oson afora thn Olympiada, sas exw pei oti einai eqnikh ypoqesh. Oydeis pote thn amfisbhthse. Kanenas apo toys ypoyrgoys poy milhsan den amfisbhthse oti einai eqnikh ypoqesh. H Ellada ekane kai kanei o,ti einai kalytero gia na exoyme epityxhmenoys kai asfaleis Olympiakoys Agwnes. Oson afora ta alla qemata poy anaferate, yparxei kapoioy eidoys periergh proseggish apo to PASOK, qa elega. Exw akoysei proeklogika to PASOK na mas kathgorei oti qa baloyme ``ta dika mas paidia'' sth Dhmosia Dioikhsh. Sth synexeia, meteklogika, akoysa to PASOK, dia stomatos Giwrgoy Papandreoy, sth Boylh malista, na leei oti den exoyme stelexh kai gi ayto exoyme krathsei ta ``dika toys paidia''. Emeis, loipon, leme oti den yparxoyn, oyte dika mas, oyte dika toys paidia. Oloi einai Ellhnes polites me isa dikaiwmata. Anarwtiemai, omws, ti apo ta dyo isxyei; Isxyei oti emeis kanoyme ayto poy leei o k. Boygias h ayto poy leei o k. Papandreoy; As broyn prwta oi dyo toys mia apanthsh, as apofasisoyn se mia koinh grammh kai na mas poyn. Tote qa paroyn kai sygkekrimenh apanthsh.

TAKHS: Na epanelqw sto qema ths efhmeridas ``TA NEA''. Ap o,ti katalaba prin apo ligo to diaceysate. Kai sthn Epitroph ths Boylhs milhse o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas kai boyleytes toy PASOK eipan oti anoigei h porta gia tromokratikes energeies. Fantazomai, to jerete ki eseis, oti enas dhmosiografos den ta katebazei apo to myalo toy. Mhpws kapoioi edwsan lanqasmenes plhrofories sto syntakth toy reportaz kai bghke ayth h eikona; Giati etsi jafnika na yparxei ena reportaz@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai jafnika. Einai h pollosth fora poy diaceydetai kati tetoio.

TAKHS: Epeidh grafetai gia symfwnia toy k. Boylgarakh sthn Amerikh, katw apo to trapezi@

ROYSOPOYLOS: H synanthsh, h opoia opws anaferetai sto dhmosieyma, egine en kryptw, den yparxei. Qa sas kalycei h anakoinwsh toy k. Boylgarakh.

TAKHS: Qa hqela na moy peite ean yparxei h epistolh toy k. Soyflia ston Prwqypoyrgo, sthn opoia diatypwnontai oi problhmatismoi toy, oson afora thn istoria twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Oxi ayto poy anaferei shmera se prwtoselido ths mia efhmerida. Yparxei epistolh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxei tetoia epistolh. As diathrhsoyme to xioymor, to opoio yphretei, epi seira etwn, h efhmerida ``PONTIKI''.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: To PASOK kathggeile ton k. Liaph gia to gegonos oti den epetrece ston k. Berelh na paei na episkefqei ta erga poy zhthse. Isxyei ayto; Poioi mporoyn na episkefqoyn ta erga;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete diabasei th xqesinh apanthsh toy k. Liaph, poy doqhke stis 7 to apogeyma; Mporw na sas thn epanalabw -ean qelete- an kai den einai aytos o rolos moy. Zhthqhke apo th Dioikhsh toy OSE, oxi apo ton k. Liaph, na episkefqei o k. Papandreoy me klimakio boyleytwn, to ergotajio toy proastiakoy sidhrodromoy. O k. Liaphs espeyse na enhmerwsei ton k. Papandreoy oti prosferetai na ton jenaghsei o idios. O k. Papandreoy oydepote apanthse sto thlefwnhma. Ant` aytoy egine neo thlefwnhma toy k. Berelh pros th Dioikhsh toy OSE kai oxi ston ypoyrgo Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn. Kai dhmosiopoihqhke kataggelia toy k. Berelh. O k. Liaphs apanthse me leptomereies, xqes to apogeyma. Sas kalw na diabasete thn apanthsh toy. To PASOK, aplws, prospaqei na dhmioyrghsei entypwseis.

ZOYLAS: Qelw na katalabw oti ean asxetws toy tropoy me ton opoio ermhneyqhkan oi protaseis toy k. Meimarakh, h kybernhsh tis yioqetei. Symmerizetai, estw, toys problhmatismoys gia ton epikoinwniako tomea;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mporeite na moy peite sygkekrimena poies protaseis ennoeite; Na tis akoysw kai qa sas apanthsw.

ZOYLAS: Ennow tis dyo basikes protaseis. H mia einai h systash kapoiwn grafeiwn ejyphrethshs boyleytwn sta ypoyrgeia. Kai h deyterh h symmetoxh toy idioy ston epikoinwniako sxediasmo ths kybernhshs, apo ton prosexh Septembrio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oson afora to deytero, o k. Meimarakhs metexei pantote se oles tis synedriaseis poy ginontai. Ara, den tiqetai qema kai apokleietai na ekane tetoia protash.

ZOYLAS: To leei o idios.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oson afora to prwto, sas eipa oti molis shmera kai o idios dhlwse -opws ki egw xqes- oti oydepote exei kanei tetoia protash.

XONDROS: Qelw na epimeinw sto qema, an moy epitrepete. O k. Meimarakhs ekane logo gia treis protaseis, ek twn opoiwn h mia den egine dekth, h allh diastreblwqhke apo tis efhmerides toy systhmatos toy PASOK, opws eipe, kai h trith afora th dhmioyrgia enos neoy epikoinwniakoy sxediasmoy, enos eidoys ``prwinoy kafe'' me th symmetoxh toy idioy. Poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw, hdh, apanthsei sthn prohgoymenh erwthsh, h opoia htan akribws h idia. Den exw na prosqesw kati perissotero.

XIWTHS: H dikh moy h erwthsh einai akoma pio sygkekrimenh. H epikoinwniakh politikh ths kybernhshs, nomizete oti xreiazetai beltiwsh h apodidei, opws askeitai shmera;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H epikoinwniakh politikh mas krinetai kaqhmerina sthn prajh. H kybernhsh prospaqei na beltiwsei o,ti pisteyei oti xreiazetai beltiwsh, akoygontas toys pantes, diabazontas, yioqetwntas parathrhseis, kriseis h sxolia.

SOYGLERHS: O k. Karamanlhs einai eyxaristhmenos me thn eikona poy paroysiazei h kybernhsh, epikoinwniaka, treis mhnes meta thn analhch ths ejoysias; Milate mazi toy kai opwsdhpote qa exete antilhfqei an einai enoxlhmenos apo kapoies antiparaqeseis poy ginontai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prin apo liges hmeres, edw, sthn aiqoysa enhmerwshs, ekana mia ektenh analysh peri toy an einai enoxlhmenos h oxi o Prwqypoyrgos gia diafora antistoixa qemata.

SOYGLERHS: To rwtw giati kaqe mera blepoyme oti yparxoyn kai kainoyrgia kroysmata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Poia einai, loipon, h eikona ths kybernhshs treis mhnes meta tis ekloges; Deixnei mia kybernhsh h opoia ergazetai kai lynei problhmata poy paremenan alyta gia para polla xronia. H kybernhsh ergasthke kai synexizei na ergazetai sto megalo eqniko qema twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Edwse apanthseis se erwthmatika gia mia seira qematwn, opws to zhthma twn syntajioyxwn kai toy 5% parakrathshs poy ginetai stis syntajeis toys. Edwse apanthseis kai lyseis sta panwtokia kai toys pleisthriasmoys. Edwse apanthseis kai bohqhse sthn ypoqesh toy Kypriakoy. Bohqhse, epishs, shmantika na beltiwqei h eikona twn sxesewn, alla kai oi sxeseis aytes kaqaytes metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias me thn epishmh episkech toy k. Erntogan sthn Aqhna. Yparxei kai mia seira allwn qematwn, opws to nomoqetiko plaisio gia thn patajh ths grafeiokratias, to nomoqetiko plaisio gia toys symbasioyxoys poy htan omhroi, epi pente xronia, ths prohgoymenhs kybernhshs. Yparxei h eilikrinhs diaqesh na antimetwpizoyme toys polites koitazontas toys sta matia kai apokalyptontas olh thn alhqeia gia thn oikonomia, opws egine sth Boylh. Ola ayta poy sas periegraca kai polla alla einai ergo poy epitelesthke se diasthma mikrotero twn triwn mhnwn. Ayto einai to ews twra ergo ths kybernhshs. Einai shmantiko kai pisteyw oti oi Ellhnes polites to ektimoyn.

ZOYLAS: Qa hqela ena sxolio ths kybernhshs gia mia apostrofh toy k. Shmith poy katalogise sth N.D. oti emfanizei th gefyra Rioy @ Antirrioy ws ergo toy Xarilaoy Trikoyph.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa sxoliasw ta legomena toy k. Shmith. Den akoysa kati tetoio apo th N.D. Den yparxei kanenos eidoys apajiwtikh symperifora apenanti se kapoion kai idiaitera se enan prwhn Prwqypoyrgo.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete oti se polla ypoyrgeia oi ypoyrgoi den exoyn dwsei oyte mia synenteyjh Typoy stoys diapisteymenoys syntaktes; Exete kapoio sxolio; Giati h proswpikh moy apoch einai oti yparxei elleimma epikoinwnias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na kanw kapoio sxolio. H synergasia dhmosiografwn kai ypoyrgwn pisteyw oti einai agasth. An yparxoyn kapoioy eidoys mikres kaqysterhseis, ayto ofeiletai sto oti h kybernhsh einai kainoyrgia kai exei arxisei na asxoleitai me para polla pragmata kai na dinei lyseis. H proqesh twn kybernhtikwn stelexwn einai na exoyn mia poly kalh synergasia me to xwro twn MME, o opoios, allwste, ws elegktikos mhxanismos, einai enas apo toys pylwnes ths Dhmokratias mas.

KORAH: H logikh ths kybernhshs poia einai; To komma, oxi aplws na ekfrazei mia apoch, prepei na exei logo sth diamorfwsh ths epikoinwniakhs strathgikhs ths;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sth Dhmokratia epiballetai na exei apoch kaqenas apo toys metexontes energoys polites.

KORAH: Kai logo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws. H apoch einai kai logos.

KORAH: Dhladh, dexeste na sas leei to komma ti h pws prepei na antimetwpisete epikoinwniaka thn kybernhtikh leitoyrgia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai allo ayto poy me rwtate.

KORAH: Ayto qelw na moy apanthsete. To komma prepei na exei logo sto pws o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos qa diaxeirizetai thn epikoinwniakh leitoyrgia ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To komma ths N.D. ejelegh sthn kybernhsh me megalh pleiochfia. H N.D. apoteleitai apo shmantika stelexh, ta opoia exoyn apoch. Se kamia periptwsh, omws, den protiqetai h N.D. na odhghsei th xwra se katastaseis poy eidame sto prosfato parelqon. Den prokeitai na kommatikopoihqei to kratos apo th N.D. Ayto jexaste to, egine mono epi PASOK.

Eyxaristw poly.


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