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Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-09-14

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 14 Septembrioy 2004

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Synedriase shmera h Kybernhtikh Epitroph. To prwto qema syzhthshs htan h Koinwnia ths Plhroforias. Egine eishghsh gia thn antagwnistikothta apo ton k. Sioyfa, o opoios exei probei se sxetikes dhlwseis.

Oson afora sto qema ths Koinwnias ths Plhroforias, to opoio h kybernhsh parakoloyqei kai dra, qa hqela na sas pw oti ews to Martio h aporrofhtikothta toy programmatos htan sto 12%. Symfwna de me ta stoixeia ta opoia diaqetoyn oi armodioi ypoyrgoi perieixe kai to plasmatiko stoixeio, enw h pragmatikh aporrofhtikothta efqane to 6%. Milw gia plasmatiko stoixeio giati sto 12% exoyn perilhfqei programmata ta opoia eixan aplws ypoblhqei, alla den eixan egkriqei gia na proxwrhsei h ektelesh toys.

Stoxos ths kybernhshs einai h pragmatikh aporrofhtikothta na exei ftasei sto 15% ews to telos Dekembrioy.

Meta to telos ths enhmerwshs qa sas dianemhqei analytiko shmeiwma gia to qema, to opoio exei etoimasei o k. Prokophs Paylopoylos.

O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio stis 10 to prwi, qa parastei sthn epishmh epimnhmosynh akoloyqia yper anapaysews toy Papa kai Patriarxh Alejandreias kai pashs Afrikhs makaristoy Petroy toy Z@.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxei ena qema se sxesh me tis dhlwseis poy ekane xqes o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas k. Sphlios Sphliwtopoylos. Exei jekinhsei h texnikh proetoimasia ths symfwnias gia th meiwsh twn ejoplismwn me thn Toyrkia, thn opoia anakoinwse o Prwqypoyrgos sth Qessalonikh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti, hdh, apo ton Ianoyario toy 2003 se synanthsh toy k. Karamanlh me ton k. Erntogan sthn Agkyra syzhthqhke to qema ths amoibaias meiwshs twn ejoplistikwn dapanwn se Ellada kai Toyrkia. Qema to opoio gnwrizete, afoy blepw allwste se ayth thn aiqoysa kai kapoioys apo toys dhmosiografoys poy eixan tote akoloyqhsei ton k. Karamanlh kai eixan gracei ta sxetika reportaz.

Htan h prwth fora poy egine syzhthsh se toso ychlo epipedo. Akoloyqhse -otan h Nea Dhmokratia egine kybernhsh kai o k. Erntogan htan Prwqypoyrgos ths Toyrkias, mexri tote qymizw den eixe analabei kanonika ta kaqhkonta toy, Prwqypoyrgos htan o k. Gkioyl- synanthsh metajy twn ypoyrgwn Amynhs twn dyo xwrwn, opoy syzhthqhke leptomerws to qema. Kai ayth h synanthsh einai gnwsth. Dhmosieyqhkan malista kai sxetikes dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynhs, otan briskomastan sth Synodo Koryfhs toy NATO sthn Kwnstantinoypolh, ton perasmeno Ioynio. Apotelesma aytwn htan oi anakoinwqeises perikopes ejoplistikwn dapanwn kai apo tis dyo pleyres. Sxetikes anakoinwseis eginan toso apo thn toyrkikh, oso kai apo thn ellhnikh pleyra.

Sygkekrimena: Emeis anakoinwsame perikopes sthn anaqewrhsh toy pentaetoys ejoplistikoy programmatos. Ta de xrhmata poy qa ejoikonomhqoyn qa xrhsimopoihqoyn se erga koinwnikhs politikhs, opws exei hdh anakoinwqei.

H Toyrkia anakoinwse oti ta xrhmata twn perikopwn qa ta diaqesei sthn Paideia. Oydeis pote apo th Nea Dhmokratia milhse gia grapto keimeno. Meta tayta @kai edw apantw sta osa akoysa na dhlwnontai, xqes, apo diafora stelexh toy PASOK- h xqesinh epiqesh ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs gi` ayto to qema ejyphretei mono mikrokommatikes skopimothtes. Se eyaisqhta qemata qa perimene kaneis megalyterh prosoxh apo to PASOK.

SPYRAKH: Dhladh, den yparxei kanenos eidoys grapth symfwnia anamesa stis dyo pleyres; Yparxei mono mia politikh synennohsh, gia na katalaboyme to plaisio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Anefera mia seira drasewn poy apeferan hdh apotelesma se praktiko epipedo. H oysia omws -poy paramenei analloiwth- einai pws ayth h synennohsh metajy twn dyo pleyrwn eixe apotelesma sthn prajh kai den xreiasthke na yparxei kapoio keimeno. Mono to PASOK milhse gia keimeno. Oydepote h kybernhsh anefere kati tetoio. Sthn politikh, opws jerete, yparxoyn symfwnies oi opoies einai graptes kai den throyntai kai symfwnies oi opoies ginontai proforika kai throyntai. Shmasia, loipon, exei to apotelesma kai en prokeimenw yphrje apotelesma.

ZOYLAS: Hqela na rwthsw an ayth h proforikh symfwnia perieixe kai stoixeia sygkekrimena h aplws symfwnhqhke mia perikoph apo tis dyo pleyres;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yphrxe mia synennohsh na meiwqoyn oi ejoplistikes dapanes. Kaqe xwra meiwse tis ejoplistikes dapanes se posa poy ekeinh ekrine.

BITALHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epi toy xronodiagrammatos poy anaferqhkate lete oti yparxei synanthsh toy k. Karamanlh me ton k. Erntogan ton Ianoyario toy 2003. Kai meta anafereste sth Synodo Koryfhs toy NATO sthn Kwnstantinoypolh me th synanthsh twn dyo ypoyrgwn Eqnikhs Amynas. Qelw na sas rwthsw an ayth h synanthsh ton Ianoyario toy 2003 ginetai otan o Prwqypoyrgos shmera, htan Arxhgos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs. Ayto poy qelw na rwthsw sto xronodiagramma einai: ean me thn idiothta toy o k. Karamanlhs ws Prwqypoyrgos, meta tis 7 Martioy toy 2004 , kai se synanthseis poy eixe me ton Toyrko omologo toy k. Erntogan janateqhke ayto to qema kai janagine se epipedo pleon Prwqypoyrgwn aytoy toy typoy h proforikh symfwnia poy lete.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanabebaiwqhke -kai an anatrejete se keimena, reportaz ths epoxhs- h proseggish poy eixe ginei sthn Agkyra ton Ianoyario toy 2003.

XONDROS: Posa jeroyme; Ti posa, dhladh, kocame emeis kai apo poies dapanes kai ti antistoixo poso ekocan oi Toyrkoi kai apo poies dapanes, giati exei shmasia kai ayto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Antistoixoyn se kapoia ekatommyria dolaria, poy den eimai se qesh na anakoinwsw.

GKOYTZANHS: Htan, dhladh, sthn kalh proqesh twn dyo pleyrwn, oxi epi th basei kapoias amoibaiothtas kai se sxesh me to ycos twn ejoplistikwn programmatwn twn dyo, giati einai terastia h diafora anamesa sta ejoplistika programmata ths Toyrkias kai ths Elladas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egine analogika me to megeqos toy stratoy kaqe xwras.

GKOYTZANHS: Ara, milame gia symfwnia tote, k. Ekproswpe, estw kai proforikh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa oti grapth symfwnia den yphrje. Yphrje proforikh synennohsh. Kai sas epanalambanw oti polles fores @kai to apodeiknyei h prajh- sthn politikh kai th zwh mia tetoioy eidoys synennohsh einai pio apotelesmatikh apo o,ti mia grapth symfwnia.

MPOILE: O k. Sphliwtopoylos, xqes, se synenteyjh toy ston Alpha eipe oti den yparxei tetoia symfwnia. Dhlwse agnoia kai parepemce ston Prwqypoyrgo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H lejh ``grapth'' sas jefyge apo thn erwthsh.

GKOYTZANHS: Pantws, dhlwse agnoia, oti den gnwrize to qema.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Lew oti h lejh ``grapth'' -giati se ayto erwthqhke kai se ayto apanthse- jefyge apo thn erwthsh. Apanthsa hdh me safhneia.

TSIODRAS: Qewreite oti einai arketh h proforikh symfwnia, synennohsh gia ena meizon qema opws einai oi ejoplistikes dapanes anamesa se dyo xwres, opws einai h Ellada kai h Toyrkia kai den xreiazetai mia grapth symfwnia poy qa leei poia bhmata qa ginoyn, se ti ycos qa yparxoyn aytes oi meiwseis se baqos xronoy. Edw to zhthma twn ejoplismwn epi xronia exei dhmioyrghsei sobarotates entaseis anamesa stis dyo xwres;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei dhmioyrghqei ena teleiws diaforetiko klima, metajy Ellados kai Toyrkias, meta thn analhch twn kaqhkontwn ths kybernhshs apo th Nea Dhmokratia. Ena klima poy exei apodeixqei, polles fores, toso apo tis synanthseis twn dyo Prwqypoyrgwn, oso kai apo tis syzhthseis twn qematwn poy apasxoloyn tis dyo xwres. Qa epanalabw ayto poy eipa kai prohgoymenws: Otan yparxei apotelesma sthn prajh kai ayto to apotelesma einai gnwsto, einai apto, tote to na rwtame an einai grapth h symfwnia h an einai proforikh kai to na asxoloymaste me ayto einai deytereyon. H oysia einai oti oi kales proqeseis apodeiknyontai sthn prajh.

ZOYLAS: Qelw na rwthsw, ean eixe kapoia desmeytikh ennoia ayth h proeklogikh symfwnia kai ena yphrxe xronodiagramma, dhladh, mexri pote kaqe xwra ypoxrewnetai na kanei aytes tis perikopes poy -opws mas eipate- symfwnhqhkan posostiaia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh gnwrizei ean yparxoyn kai alla elikoptera ``skarta'';

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo thn prwth hmera toy dystyxhmatos doqhke entolh apo ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynhs na kaqhlwqoyn ta elikoptera toy sygkekrimenoy typoy se opoio stratiwtiko aerodromio ths Elladas kai an briskontai, mexri na ginoyn oi aparaithtoi elegxoi.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Xqes, eipe kai gia kapoio aeroplano to opoio kykloforei kai den exei staqerothta. Mhpws yparxoyn kai alla;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Diapistwqhke kapoio problhma sto ``Empraer'', opws anakoinwse xqes o k. Sphliwtopoylos. Einai se ejelijh texnikh ereyna gia na diapistwqei ti akribws symbainei.

GKOYTZANHS: Yparxei apotelesma ths ereynas poy einai malista toy nyn Arxhgoy GEA, o opoios thn ekane me thn prohgoymenh idiothta toy, kat` entolh toy k. Sphliwtopoyloy, poy leei oti den yparxei problhma. Giati ayto den to anakoinwse xqes o k. Sphliwtopoylos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ean yparxei apotelesma ths ereynas. To sygkekrimeno aeroskafos eixe problhma. Eixa malista kai proswpikh empeiria otan se kapoio tajidi mas zhthqhke na kaqisoyme se sygkekrimenes qeseis gia na ginei swsth katanomh toy baroys. Aytos htan o logos poy jekinhse h ereyna, dioti ypo kanonikes synqhkes den metakineis toys epibates gia na dieykolyneis thn pthsh..

GKOYTZANHS: Ontws o k. Sphliwtopoylos eixe dwsei entolh ston tote arxhgo@

ROYSOPOYLOS: O,ti peraiterw plhroforia yparjei gia to qema qa anakoinwqei apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynhs.

GKOYTZANHS: Shmera o radiofwnikos staqmos @FLASH@, apokalyce thn ekqesh poy ekane o anaplhrwths dioikhths toy Agioy Oroys k. Kasmirogloy kai tis energeies poy ekane thn hmera ths ptwshs toy elikopteroy. Anaferei, loipon, oti ekane dyo fores kyklo epafwn me oles tis armodies yphresies, meta tis dwdeka para eikosi kai oti meta tis dwdeka kai mish me mia, eixe thlefwnikh epikoinwnia me ton yfypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Skandalakh. Epishs, leei oti oi stratiwtikoi poy htan sto Agion Oros ekanan antistoixes energeies pros thn politikh hgesia. O k. Skandalakhs ti wra enhmerwse ton Prwqypoyrgo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxei tetoioy eidoys anafora sthn ekqesh toy k. Kasmirogloy, symfwna me thn enhmerwsh toy exw apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

KOYIN: To sygkekrimeno elikoptero sto opoio anaferqhkate prin tygxanei na einai kai meros mias allhs promhqeias ths Ellhnikhs Aeroporias poy exei na kanei me ta iptamena rantar; Ayto shmainei oti epanejetazete kai ayto to qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws eixame dhlwsei kai proeklogika epanejetazontai hdh oi symbaseis poy qewrhqhkan skandalwdeis. O k. Sphliwtopoylos exei kanei anakoinwseis gia epanadiapragmateysh symbasewn ep` wfeleia toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy. Den exei teleiwsei ayto to qema.

GEROPOYLOS: Sxetika me to qema ths kybernhtikhs epitrophs. H prohgoymenh kybernhsh eixe ypobalei ena sxedio gia to qema ths ``koinwnias ths plhroforias'' kai gia to xroniko diasthma 2004-2008, me titlo ``chfiakh yposxesh'' kai htan to sxedio strathgikhs. Shmera sth synedriash ths kybernhtikhs epitrophs lhfqhkan kapoies apofaseis allaghs toy sxedioy h qa parameinei sto idio plaisio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To sxedio strathgikhs poy eixe ypoblhqei htan anakoloyqo me thn praktikh poy akoloyqhqhke h oxi. Kata synepeia xreiazetai anaqewrhsh sxedioy. Oi armodioi ypoyrgoi k. Paylopoylos kai Alogoskoyfhs exoyn hdh proxwrhsei se ayto.

SPYRAKH: Epeidh eipate oti den yparxei tetoio qema, dhladh sthn ekqesh na exei enhmerwqei o k. Skandalakhs apo ton k. Kasmirogloy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws me plhroforhse to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn den anaferetai ayto to peristatiko.

SPYRAKH: Qelw na rwthsw ti wra enhmerwse o k. Skandalakhs ton Prwqypoyrgo h ton k. Sphliwtopoylo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws eipa kai xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos enhmerwqhke apo ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynhs kata th diarkeia ths syzhthshs poy eixe me toys ekproswpoys twn paragwgikwn tajewn.

GKOYTZANHS: Ti wra; Giati h synanthsh dihrkese apo th mia para tetarto ews tis treis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Plhroforhqhka to gegonos peripoy stis dyo kai tetarto, kata th diarkeia ths synanthshs poy eixa me toys dhmosiografoys. Epikoinwnhsa amesws me ton Prwqypoyrgo, o opoios eixe hdh enhmerwqei apo ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynhs. Ayth h enhmerwsh egine metajy 14.10 kai 14.20.

GALIATSATOS: O k. Sphliwtopoylos sth synenteyjh toy rwthqhke gia to ti wra enhmerwqhke o ypoyrgos Makedonias-Qrakhs kai den apanthse. Mporeite na mas peite eseis ti wra enhmerwqhke o ypoyrgos Makedonias-Qrakhs; Giati rwthsan ton k. Sphliwtopoylo, ean enhmerwqhke kata tis dwdekamisi me mia, kai den eipe apolytws tipota.

MPOILE: O k. Sphliwtopoylos xqes eipe oti o ypoyrgos Makedonias-Qrakhs enhmerwqhke dyo kai dekaoktw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia to pote enhmerwqhke o ypoyrgos Makedonias-Qrakhs mporeite na rwthsete ton idio.

GALIATSATOS: Qelete na pistecoyme oti o Dioikhths toy Agioy Oroys apo tis dwdeka kai mish poy exei kanei treis kykloys enhmerwshs -giati ayto den amfisbhteitai sthn ekqesh- mexri tis dyo kai eikosi, den prospaqhse na enhmerwsei thn kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws plhroforhqhka apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, sthn ekqesh toy k. Kasmirogloy den yparxei h sygkekrimenh synomilia me ton k. Skandalakh. Den apokleiw na exei ginei kapoia synomilia. Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas pw.

GKOYTZANHS: Ektos ean allaje h ekqesh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den jerw ti ypainisseste.

GKOYTZANHS: Na allaje h ekqesh giati oi plhrofories@@.(den akoygetai)

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ennoeite oti allaje h ekqesh apo kapoio kybernhtiko stelexos;

GKOYTZANHS: Isws. Den jerw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Parakalw, qa hqela na mhn afhnete tetoioy eidoys aixmes gia ypoyrgoys. Tis qewrw aparadektes.

TSIODRAS: Perimenoyn oi stratiwtikoi na prosgeiwqei to elikoptero 11:00 @ 11:30, to opoio den fqanei. Perimenoyn kapoia wra, symfwna, toylaxiston, me osa legontai, oi stratiwtikoi enhmerwnoyn toys proistamenoys toys oti den exei prosgeiwqei to elikoptero. Yparxei ayto sthn ekqesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, yphrje apofash na zhthqei h paraithsh toy arxhgoy toy GEA. To epanalambanw, dioti exei perasei se deyterh moira, enw einai prwteyon stoixeio. Exoyme dyo skelh sthn ypoqesh toy elikopteroy: To prwto einai ta aitia ths tragwdias, ta opoia kai ereynwntai. To deytero einai ta aitia ths kaqysterhshs enhmerwshs, ta opoia epishs ereynwntai. H kaqysterhsh poy orqws anedeixqh apo ta MME se meizon qema, einai ayth h opoia odhgei sto prwto kai ameso symperasma: Den kinhqhkan opws qa eprepe na eixan kinhqei oi yphresies toy Genikoy Epiteleioy Aeroporias. Aytos htan kai o logos gia ton opoio zhthqhke h paraithsh toy arxhgoy ths Aeroporias. Qa eprepe oi emplekomenoi ajiwmatikoi, ypajiwmatikoi h alla stelexh ths Polemikhs Aeroporias, me bash toys kanonismoys, na kanoyn sygkekrimena bhmata se sygkekrimeno xrono, apo th stigmh poy xaqhke to stigma enos elikopteroy apo ta rantar. Ayto, opws apodeiknyetai, efoson yphrje terastia kaqysterhsh, den egine. Aytos htan kai o logos gia ton opoio apodoqhkan eyqynes apo thn politikh hgesia. H ereyna einai se ejelijh kai meta to peras ths qa dhmosiopoihqei olo to xronologio gia na bgaloyn oloi oi Ellhnes ta symperasmata toys gia th lepto pros lepto ejelijh ths ypoqeshs.

SIDERHS: Aytos qa eprepe na einai kai o logos poy qa eprepe na apodoqoyn politikes eyqynes ston ypoyrgo, giati oi draseis qetikes h arnhtikes twn yfistamenwn exoyn amesh antanaklash ston politiko proistameno, ek twn wn oyk aney.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei hdh sto qema.

BITALHS: Xqes to brady, sta deltia eidhsewn kai shmera stis efhmerides yparxei ayto to eggrafo apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas, apo to Geniko Epiteleio, en pash periptwsei, oti ena elikoptero, to sygkekrimeno, poy ekteloyse thn pthsh, endexetai na eixe kataskeyastiko sfalma. Egw qa hqela na rwthsw kati pio sygkekrimeno: Ean ayto to kataskeyastiko sfalma htan ypoch ths hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy Amynas kai ths kybernhshs, profanws, prin apo to atyxhma h ereynhqhke o fakelos aytoy toy elikopteroy argotera.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai ayto to erwthma qa apanthqei apo thn ereyna poy diejagetai.

GALIATSATOS: Ejetazetai, omws, to endexomeno na epiblhqoyn kyrwseis sto dioikhth toy Agioy Oroys poy den enhmerwse thn politikh hgesia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan qa exw apolyth gnwsh ths ekqesews, qa epikoinwnhsw me to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai qa lhfqoyn oi aparaithtes apofaseis. Antilambanomaste, omws, oloi oti h eyqynh ths enhmerwshs gia ena elikoptero to opoio agnoeitai, den anhkei ston ypodioikhth toy Agioy Oroys, alla stis armodies yphresies ths syntetagmenhs Politeias.

GALIATSATOS: Se periptwsh poy den exei yparjei epikoinwnia toy k. Skandalakh me to dioikhth toy Agioy Oroys, treis wres meta thn ypotiqemenh afijh toy Patriarxh sto Agion Oros, yparxoyn eyqynes ston k. Skandalakh, epeidh den exei endiaferqei na maqei ti egine me thn episkech toy Patriarxh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den prokeitai na apanthsw se mia ypoqetikh erwthsh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, swsta lete oti yparxei sfalma toy stratiwtikoy mhxanismoy gia to pws kinhqhke symfwna me ton kanonismo kai gi@ ayta ta opoia den thrhqhkan. Kamia antirrhsh. Wstoso, yparxoyn kai alloi diayloi epikoinwnias: Yparxoyn plhrofories h fhmes an qelete, oti aytoi oi diayloi leitoyrghsan. Stratiwtika kai politika proswpa to emaqan. Den eipame oti aytoi exoyn eyqynh me thn ennoia poy exoyn eyqynh oi stratiwtikoi. Wstoso, prokyptei ena qema leitoyrgias ths kybernhshs. Ayto rwtoyme emeis ws dhmosiografoi.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo thn plhroforhsh poy exw apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, den anaferetai ayto. Ara, den milame gia plhrofories, milame gia fhmes. Epi th basei fhmwn, loipon, oyte topoqethsh mporw na kanw, oyte poly perissotero mporoyn na lhfqoyn politikes apofaseis.

KYRITSHS: Exw treis erwthseis: H prwth afora to programma Koinwnia ths Plhroforias. To 2003, an den kanw laqos, to sxetiko programma phge apo to 3% sto 10%, oson afora thn aporrofhtikothta twn kondyliwn. Eseis, epishs, an den kanw laqos, to paralabate prin apo eji mhnes, gyrw sto 12%. Qelw na rwthsw poy to exete paei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa kai prohgoymenws oti to 12% to opoio paralabame einai plasmatikos ariqmos. O akribhs ariqmos einai to 6%, dioti sto 12%, opws eipa kai sthn arxh ths eishghshs moy, perilambanontai prokhryjeis kai diagwnismoi oi opoioi den eixan oloklhrwqei.

POYLIDOY: Sta plasmatika noymera, loipon, poy to exete balei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa sas apanthsoyn ta ypoyrgeia Eswterikwn kai Eqnikhs Oikonomias. Stoxos, pantws, paramenei gia to Dekembrio to 15%.

KYRITSHS: Deyteron, anaferate prohgoymenws sxetika me to problhma to opoio paroysiasthke sto VIP (den akoygetai) oti briskeste se diadikasia epanajiologhshs kai epanejetashs twn symbasewn aytwn. Ap@ o,ti jerw, to programma twn iptamenwn rantar@

ROYSOPOYLOS: H erwthsh jekinhse gi@ ayto to qema kai sas ypenqymisa poia einai h politikh desmeysh poy exei analabei h Nea Dhmokratia.

KYRITSHS: Wraia, na to aposafhnisoyme. To sygkekrimeno programma twn iptamenwn rantar einai se epanejetash; Giati, ap@ o,ti jerw, paradidontai ayta.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den eimai se qesh na sas pw gia to sygkekrimeno programma. Sas eipa oti gia tis symbaseis poy qewrhqhkan skandalwdeis ginontai anakoinwseis apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynhs poy aforoyn tis energeies stis opoies exei proxwrhsei kai o armodios genikos grammateas kai fysika o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynhs. Anakoinwnontai kai ginontai gnwstes. Den exei ginei tipote kryfo.

KYRITSHS: Kai triton, grafei oti oi Ellhnes katadromeis basanizan kai binteoskopoysan malista toys basanismoys laqrometanastwn se braxonhsida. Gia to logo ayto, maqame oti o arxhgos GES dietaje thn allagh ths froyras ths nhsidas kai epishs dietaje EDE. @Hqela na rwthsw, an kata th gnwmh ths kybernhshs, yparxoyn kai politikes eyqynes s@ ayto to qema kai to genikotero sxolio ths, dioti qymizei aytes tis katastaseis tis opoies parakoloyqoysame sto Irak me toys Amerikanoys kai tis fylakes klp.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Antilambanomai oti, logw toy megaloy qematos ths ptwsews toy elikopteroy, exei endiaferon na syzhtoyme gia qemata stratiwtikhs yfhs. Gi` ayta kai tis leptomereies toys, opws katalabainete, den mporw na eimai gnwsths twn pantwn. Se o,ti afora omws to peristatiko opws to perigracate kai efoson isxyoyn ayta poy perigracate, oxi aplws einai apotropiastiko kai katadikasteo, alla prepei na epirrifqoyn eyqynes kai se aytoys oi opoioi eixan thn prwtoboylia tetoiwn drasewn kai bebaiws stoys epikefalhs toys.

KOYIN: Moy epitrepete na kleisw ena allo qema, oson afora to elikoptero. Epeidh yphrxan arketes fhmologies oti to idio elikoptero eprokeito na xrhsimopoihqei gia th metabash toy k. Poytin sto Agion Oros, mporeite na mas peite nai h oxi gia na jeroyme;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Poytin eixe zhthsei na diateqoyn gia th metabash toy sto Agion Oros dyo elikoptera Sinoyk. Ta elikoptera Sinoyk einai panw apo 15 h 16, an den kanw laqos ston ariqmo. Den eixe oristei poio sygkekrimeno elikoptero qa metefere ton k. Poytin.

SPYRAKH: Protiqetai h kybernhsh na dwsei sth dhmosiothta thn ekqesh toy k. Kasmirogloy gia ton tropo me ton opoio edrase otan anakalyce oti yparxei megalh kaqysterhsh prosgeiwshs toy elikopteroy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa milhsw me to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, an yparxei logos na doqei sth dhmosiothta ayth h ekqesh.

Eyxaristw poly.


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