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Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-09-29

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 29 Septembrioy 2004

(Zappeio Megaro)

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY

TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos ayrio stis 9 to prwi qa exei synergasia, sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton ypoyrgo Metaforwn Mixalh Liaph. Stis 11.30 qa dexqei, edw sto Zappeio Megaro, toys Paraolympionikes. Stis 13.00 qa parastei se ekdhlwsh pros timhn twn Paraolympionikwn, sto Proedriko Megaro.

Shmera, kleinei o kyklos ths enhmerwshs poy eixe syndeqei me toys Olympiakoys kai toys Paraolympiakoys Agwnes sto filojeno xwro toy Zappeioy. Me thn eykairia ayth, qa hqela na eyxaristhsw oloys osoi synebalan sthn enhmerwsh kai thn plhroforhsh, kaqws kai osoys stelexwsan to Kentro Typoy. Ennow, aytoys poy synhqws toys apokaloyme afaneis syntelestes ths epityxias aytwn twn Kentrwn Typoy. Nomizw oti oloi qa anagnwrisete poso shmantikh htan h symbolh toy sygkekrimenoy Kentroy Typoy, wste kata th diarkeia twn Olympiakwn kai twn Paraolympiakwn Agwnwn na paroysiastei, ti akribws petyxe h Ellada.

Apo ayrio h enhmerwsh qa ginetai kai pali kanonika sto ktirio ths odoy Zalokwsta, thn kaqierwmenh wra.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

BLAXOS: Prin apo ligo o k. Polydwras, o koinoboyleytikos ekproswpos ths N.D., anakoinwse oti h kybernhsh qa proxwrhsei sthn protash gia systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs gia to qema twn promhqeiwn twn Enoplwn Dynamewn. Otan ayto, loipon, ginetai ligoys mhnes prin apo thn eklogh neoy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, pws einai dynato na kaqisete me thn Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh gia na breite proswpo koinhs apodoxhs poy oysiastika qa eklegei sthn Proedria kai den qa odhghqei h xwra se ekloges, ektos kai an qelete na ginoyn ekloges;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa prepei na syndeoyme to ena qema me to allo. H protash gia systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs apo th N.D. einai fysikh synexeia twn prwtoboyliwn poy anelabe h anejarthth Dikaiosynh, h opoia diereynhse mexris ekei poy mporoyse to sygkekrimeno qema kai to parepemce sth Boylh twn Ellhnwn. Einai ypoxrewsh kai kaqhkon ths kybernhshs na symbalei apo thn pleyra ths sthn peraiterw diereynhsh toy qematos.

BLAXOS: O Kwnstantinos Karamanlhs, o idryths ths Neas Dhmokratias, elege oti oi politikoi otan eyqynontai gia kati pane spiti toys. Eseis symfwneite me ayth th diatypwsh toy Kwnstantinoy Karamanlh h qewreite oti oi politikoi, otan apodeiknyetai oti eyqynontai gia kati, phgainoyn sta dikasthria;

ANTWNAROS: H Boylh exei kaqhkon na diereynhsei tis sygkekrimenes kathgories.

SIDERHS: Giati ejetastikh kai oxi proanakritikh epitroph; Mhpws, epeidh qa prepei na stoixeioqethsete tis kathgories epi sygkekrimenwn proswpwn kai sygkekrimenwn energeiwn;

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai h sygkekrimenh diadikasia, h opoia, kata thn ektimhsh mas, prepei na akoloyqhqei meta apo thn ereyna poy exei dienerghsei h Dikaiosynh. Exoyn prokycei, opws jerete, orismena stoixeia ta opoia perilambanontai sto porisma. H Ejetastikh Epitroph qa analabei to kaqhkon na diereynhsei peraiterw ayta ta stoixeia kai o,ti allo stoixeio prokycei, wste na katalhjei se ena apotelesma, se mia qesh.

XIWTHS: Poia periodo qa diereynhsete me thn protash sas; Dhladh, qa diereynhqei kai h periodos pro toy 2000, opoy ta adikhmata exoyn paragrafei h qa arkesteite sth diereynhsh ths periodoy, opoy mporei na akoloyqhqei mia dikastikh diadikasia;

ANTWNAROS: O,ti epitrepei o nomos.

BLAXOS: Den moy apanthsate sto erwthma, ean qelete ekloges h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei eklegei gia tessera xronia.

TSIODRAS: Sas problhmatise to endexomeno na zhthsete proanakritikh epitroph kai oxi ejetastikh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

TSIODRAS: Rwtw, an to skefthkate.

ANTWNAROS: Exw hdh apanthsei.

ARMENHS: To PASOK mila gia skandalologia. Ti apantate;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei para mono h diereynhsh enos qematos gia to opoio h Dikaiosynh, poy einai anejarthth, ekrine oti yparxoyn orismena stoixeia. Ayta perilambanontai sto porisma poy katateqhke sth Boylh, h opoia exei th dynatothta na synexisei th diereynhsh. Ayto akribws ginetai.

XIDIROGLOY: Eixame xqes to prwi sth boreia Hpeiro dyo epeisodia eis baros ths ellhnikhs meionothtas. Kapoioi topoqethsan ekrhktika, nomizw, stis paidikes kataskhnwseis ths Arxiepiskophs ths Albanias. Dedomenwn twn synexwn biaiwn epeisodiwn enantion twn Ellhnwn ths boreioy Hpeiroy, ti metra protiqetai na labei h kybernhsh, prokeimenoy na prostateysei toys omoeqneis mas apo mia epikindynh katastash h opoia klimakwnetai ekei;

ANTWNAROS: Katadikazoyme ayta ta qlibera gegonota, poy ta prokalesan me th drash toys akraia fanatika stoixeia. Me thn eykairia ayth qa hqela na ypenqymisw oti h prostasia twn meionotikwn dikaiwmatwn perilambanetai stoys oroys airesimothtas ths diadikasias staqeropoihshs kai syndeshs ths Albanias me thn Enwmenh Eyrwph. Genikotera h prostasia ayth apotelei stoixeio poy afora amesa thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Albanias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Arxise xqes se kybernhtiko klimakio mia syzhthsh gia to basiko metoxo. Poio qa einai to pososto gia to basiko metoxo; Exete kapoies plhrofories;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei desmeyqei na kataqesei to sxetiko nomosxedio poy afora ta MME, ews to telos toy xronoy. H synanthsh, sthn opoia anaferqhkate, htan metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai twn ypoyrgwn poy exoyn thn armodiothta gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei xronodiagramma; Se 15 hmeres, se ena mhna;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti ews to telos toy xronoy qa exei katateqei to sxetiko nomosxedio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa exoyn doqei, omws, pio prin oi thleoptikes adeies;

ANTWNAROS: Qa doyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ean doqoyn, ti na ton kanoyme meta to metoxo;

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw oti ews to telos toy xronoy qa exei katateqei to nomosxedio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gi ayto lew, qa exoyn doqei pio prin oi thleoptikes adeies.

ANTWNAROS: Ews to telos toy xronoy. Nomizw oti mporeite na katalabete ti shmainei ayth h frash.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mporoyme na jeroyme, poio qa einai to pososto;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

BLAXOS: Prin apo ligo o k. Panagiwtopoylos, ejerxomenos apo to Megaro Majimoy meta th synanthsh toy me ton Prwqypoyrgo, oysiastika erije to ganti ston k. Papandreoy legontas oti ean qelei ekloges to PASOK, as tis zhthsei kai qa parei thn apanthsh. Exete eseis apanthsh;

ANTWNAROS: Blepete na zhta kaneis ekloges;

BLAXOS: Ara, epanalambanete ki eseis to idio. Ean zhthsoyn qa paroyn thn apanthsh.

ANTWNAROS: Giati syzhtame gia ekloges th stigmh poy kaneis den tis zhta;

KAKALHS: Eixate pei oti molis lhjoyn oi Olympiakoi kai Paraolympiakoi Agwnes qa apoxwrhsei to Zepelin kai oi kameres. Par ola ayta kai shmera to Zepelin yperiptatai panw apo ta kefalia mas kai malista panw apo tis kinhtopoihseis poy kanoyn oi symbasioyxoi. Einai tyxaio ayto; Pote problepetai na apoxwrhsei;

ANTWNAROS: Den nomizw oti to Zepelin periferetai akribws panw apo to shmeio poy sygkentrwqhke enas mikros ariqmos symbasioyxwn. Oi Paraolympiakoi Agwnes teleiwsan molis xqes. H symbash, an qymamai kala, elege oti h misqwsh toy Zepelin lhgei stis 5 Oktwbrioy.

IWANNOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean einai etoimh h kybernhsh gia ekloges sthn periptwsh poy o Giwrgos Papandreoy me aformh ayta poy symbainoyn twra, poy o idios to onomazei skandalologia, den synainesei sthn eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Einai etoimh h kybernhsh gi ayto to endexomeno;

ANTWNAROS: To Syntagma me th sygkekrimenh diadikasia eynoei th synainetikh lysh gia thn eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. H kybernhsh, ayth th stigmh, den exei kanena logo na mpei se syzhthsh, oyte gia to qema ths ekloghs toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias to opoio einai prowro, oyte bebaiws kai se syzhthsh peri eklogwn, tis opoies kaneis den zhta.

IWANNOY: Den zhta, alla o k. Papandreoy kathgorei emmesa th N.D. oti me to klima poy dhmioyrgei, pyrodotei th synainesh.

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw, oti h N.D. den dhmioyrgei tetoio klima. Egine ereyna apo th Dikaiosynh, h opoia katelhje se ena porisma, poy katateqhke sth Boylh twn Ellhnwn. Apo ekei kai pera, h kybernhsh analambanei tis prwtoboylies poy xreiazontai, wste na diereynhqei to qema mexri teloys.

IWANNOY: Den apanthsate ean h kybernhsh einai etoimh gia ekloges se periptwsh poy zhthqoyn.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh einai pantote etoimh na ekteqei sth laikh etymhgoria.

XIWTHS: Apo th stigmh poy ena porisma katatiqetai sth Boylh kai h Kybernhsh proteinei Ejetastikh Epitroph, na eikasoyme synepws oti kaqe fora poy qa exoyme ena tetoio porisma sth Boylh, poy qa apodidei eyqynes, h Kybernhsh qa akoloyqei ton idio dromo. Etsi den einai;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa apanthsw se dikes sas ypoqeseis.

XIWTHS: Giati aploystata yparxoyn polles akoma ereynes poy synexizontai apo ton Eisaggelea kai kapoia stigmh, profanws, qa katalhjoyn sth Boylh.

ANTWNAROS: Den shmainei oti ola ta porismata katalhgoyn sth Boylh.

XIWTHS: Ayto lew. Otan katalhjoyn sth Boylh@

ANTWNAROS: As qemeliwqoyn prwta eyqynes, as yparjoyn stoixeia kai meta qa ejetasoyme thn kaqe periptwsh jexwrista.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: (Den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, den sas eipa ayto. Sas eipa oti ejetazoyme thn kaqe periptwsh jexwrista. As katalhgei h ereyna ths Dikaiosynhs kapoy, as ypoballetai to porisma -milame entelws ypoqetika ayth th stigmh- to opoio prepei na apodidei kapoies eyqynes kai sth synexeia kaqe periptwsh ejetazetai jexwrista.

TSIODRAS: Exete desmeytei proeklogika, paradeigma, gia thn ypoqesh toy Xrhmatisthrioy, oti oi enoxoi qa plhrwsoyn. @Ara, loipon, na perimenoyme kapoies antistoixes@

ANTWNAROS: As perimenoyme, na doyme to porisma, dhladh thn ekbash ths dikastikhs ereynas. Peri aytoy prokeitai.

BLAXOS: Oi anakritikes Arxes caxnoyn na broyn ton idiokthth ths etairias ths ntalikas poy skorpise to qanato sthn eqnikh odo. Den ton exoyn brei. Ton brhke o Kakaoynakhs me ton opoion ekane kai synenteyjh. Afoy den mporeite na breite to ntalikierh, giati den zhtate th bohqeia toy k. Kakaoynakh na erqei na sas ton brei;

ANTWNAROS: Apeyqynete erwthma se emena h sth Dikaiosynh;

BLAXOS: Sto kratos.

ANTWNAROS: Qa to labw ypoch moy.

BLAXOS: Me sygxwreite, den einai aparadekto poy ena kratos den mporei na brei ton idiokthth ths etairias kai ton briskei enas dhmosiografos kai kanei kai synenteyjh; Den einai qema gia sas;

ANTWNAROS: Allh erwthsh.

RABANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, tis teleytaies hmeres parathroyme synexeis epikriseis apo arketoys politikoys ana thn Eyrwph gia thn katastash ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Kata poso problhmatizei thn Kybernhsh ayth h arnhtikh katastash poy exei dhmioyrghqei se arketes eyrwpaikes xwres kai poies prwtoboylies qa parete gia na allajei to klima;

ANTWNAROS: Qa exete, asfalws, ypoch sas thn epistolh poy apesteile, xqes, o k. Alogoskoyfhs stoys boyleytes ths N.D. S@ aythn katagrafetai ti akribws ekane ayth h Kybernhsh, giati to ekane kai pws protiqetai na synexisei. Den prokeitai na apokrycoyme apo ton ellhniko lao apolytws kanena stoixeio, to opoio perigrafei thn pragmatikh katastash ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Pisteyw, oti ayta ta stoixeia kai h qemeliwmenh paroysiash ths pragmatikhs eikonas ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, opws thn paroysiazoyme ws Kybernhsh kai stoys etairoys mas sto ejwteriko, dinoyn apanthseis se apories h erwthmata poy ekeinoi eixan, endexomenws sthn arxh.

RABANOS: Anaferqhkate sthn epistolh toy k. Alogoskoyfh. O k. Alogoskoyfhs perigrafei me melano tropo thn katastash ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai leei oti einai para poly dyskolo na thrhqoyn oi proeklogikes desmeyseis. Ayto pws to sxoliazete;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs leei akribws @ kai sas parakalw na diabasete thn epistolh toy- oti: ``@Opws kat@ epanalhch exei desmeyqei o Prwqypoyrgos, oi proeklogikes yposxeseis mas qa ylopoihqoyn stadiaka kata th diarkeia ths tetraetias''. Prokeitai gia mia poly safh dhlwsh kai desmeysh. Mia kybernhsh eklegetai gia mia tetraetia kai analambanei thn ypoxrewsh, ayta ta opoia ejhggeile proeklogika, na ta ylopoihsei sth diarkeia ths. Poy briskete to paradojo;

XIWTHS: Lete oti den qa apokrycete kanena stoixeio apo thn katastash ths oikonomias. Epeidh teleiwse kai h Paraolympiada, xqes, eixate desmeyqei oti qa dhmosiopoihsete to kostos twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Alhqeyoyn loipon ta dhmosieymata poy anebazoyn ayto to kostos panw apo ta 8 disek. eyrw;

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas exoyme pei, ayto qa ginei to amesws epomeno diasthma meta toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Ayth th stigmh ginetai h apotimhsh ths Olympiadas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Pote; (Den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Poly syntoma. Den yparxei xronodiagramma.

BASILOPOYLOS: Problhmatizei thn Kybernhsh o kindynos ths ypobaqmishs pistolhptikhs ikanothtas ths xwras dieqnws kai kyriws apo amerikanikoys xrhmatooikonomikoys kolossoys; Prokeitai na analhfqei kapoia sygkekrimenh prwtoboylia gia na prolhfqei, toylaxiston, aytos o kindynos;

ANTWNAROS: H oikonomikh katastash mias xwras kai h pistolhptikh ths ikanothta den ejetazetai mono ypo to prisma apolytwn ariqmwn, alla kai apo thn ikanothta mias kybernhshs kai mias xwras na efarmosei ena programma to opoio qa ejasfalisei oikonomikh staqerothta. Kai epeidh aytes tis meres ginetai logos gia ypobaqmish poy exei dhqen hdh ginei h prokeitai na ginei, qa hqela na sas pw oti ta sxetika dhmosieymata den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta.

TSIODRAS: Otan syzhtoysame kata th diejagwgh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, stis arxes, gia tis ypoqeseis ntopingk, xrhmatodothseis ston aqlhtismo k.lp., eixate pei oti amesws meta th lhjh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, ola ayta qa jekaqaristoyn. Sygkekrimena, gia ton k. Benizelo yphrxe mia erwthsh kai h apanthsh htan oti gia tis eyqynes qa ta poyme meta toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Peite mas ti prokeitai na ginei.

ANTWNAROS: Molis xqes teleiwsan oi Olympiakoi Agwnes.

TSIODRAS: Oxi, den milaw gia to kostos twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn.

ANTWNAROS: Sas lew, loipon, oti xqes teleiwsan oi Olympiakoi Agwnes.

TSIODRAS: @Ara, loipon, na perimenoyme oti tis epomenes meres qa anoijei@

ANTWNAROS: Sto amesws epomeno diasthma qa apanthqoyn ola ta erwthmata, ta opoia exoyn meinei anapanthta.

Eyxaristw poly.


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