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Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-09-12

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 12 Septembrioy 2005

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

O Prwqypoyrgos shmera to apogeyma stis 17.30, qa exei synergasia, sto Megaro Majimoy me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Giwrgo Alogoskoyfh, ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn k. Prokoph Paylopoylo, ton yfypoyrgo Oikonomias k. Petro Doyka, ton geniko grammatea Plhroforikwn Systhmatwn k. Dhmosqenh Anagnwstopoylo, ton eidiko grammatea Dioikhtikoy Tomea ths Koinwnias ths Plhroforias k. Basilh Ashmakopoylo, me qema: `` H Koinwnia ths Plhroforias''.

O Prwqypoyrgos ayrio stis 12.00 anaxwrei gia th Nea Yorkh, opoy qa symmetasxei sto Symboylio Asfaleias twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

TSIODRAS: Eipe xqes o Prwqypoyrgos oti h Olympiakh me th shmerinh ths morfh de qa synexisei na yparxei. Perifrastika to lew, alla ayto htan to nohma. Exei kai lysh gia toys ergazomenoys, eipe oti den qa meinoyn sto dromo. Ayto ap@ oti oloi katalabame, shmainei kleisimo ths Olympiakhs. Qa hqela na rwthsw, qa yparxei kapoios allos eqnikos aerometaforeas, den qa yparxei kaqoloy, qa pame se ena kleisimo poy shmainei oti se ena mhna den qa yparxei Olympiakh, ti qa ginei telika;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws sas exw pei kai allh fora s@ ayth thn aiqoysa, den shmainei kat@ anagkh kleisimo ths Olympiakhs. To bebaio einai oti h Olympiakh antimetwpizei sobara problhmata apo laqos xeirismoys pollwn etwn, me apokoryfwma ta dyo programmata ejygianshs, ta opoia stoixisan stoys Ellhnes polites 2 dis eyrw, kaqws epishs kai alles energeies, me apotelesma na stoixizei shmera h Olympiakh Aeroporia ston Ellhna polith 1,5 ek. eyrw hmerhsiws. Ekeino poy mporw na sas pw me bebaiothta, einai oti oi diadikasies poy akoloyqoyntai, kinoyntai eite pros thn pwlhsh, eite pros thn ejygiansh en leitoyrgia ths etairias. Epishs, mporw na sas pw me bebaiothta oti oi nomikes diadikasies einai xronobores kai sto diasthma ayto h Olympiakh Aeroporia qa synexisei na peta. Se kaqe periptwsh qa epanalabw, ayto poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos: Oi ergazomenoi den qa breqoyn sto dromo.

TSIODRAS: Eipate ``ejygiansh en leitoyrgia''. Ayto shmainei diathrhsh ths etairias dhladh me ligotero proswpiko isws, h xwris kapoia barh apo ta shmerina.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sygnwmh, hqela na xrhsimopoihsw ton oro ``ekkaqarish''.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie ypoyrge, an qymamai kala, arxes toy kalokairioy, to prwto dekahmero toy Ioynioy, o k. Liaphs, eixe anaferei oti yparxei endiaferon apo treis megales etairies gia meros agoras h gia kapoies prosfores gia na allajei kaqestws h etairia. Poy briskomaste; Yparxei tipote kainoyrio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epeidh blepw oti yparxei megalo endiaferon gia thn Olympiakh. Qa sas dwsw merika stoixeia epipleon.

Anaferqhka sth shmerinh katastash ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias, opws ayth diamorfwqhke ta teleytaia deka xronia, opoy gnwrise dyo apotyxhmena programmata ejygianshs opws anefera kai prohgoymenws. To prwto apo to 1994 ews to 1997 kai to deytero apo to 1998, ews to 2000 kaqws kai tesseris apotyxhmenes prospaqeies idiwtikopoihshs ta eth 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 kai 2003. Epishs gnwrise to peirama toy katakermatismoy me th dhmioyrgia twn Olympiakwn Aerogrammwn oi opoies opws gnwrizete exoyn to pthtiko ergo. Ta dyo apotyxhmena programmata ejygianshs opws sas anefera, kostisan 2 dis eyrw. Oi sysswreymenes zhmies ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias apo to 1981 ews to telos toy 2003, einai ths tajews toy 1 dis eyrw. Me alla logia h ypoqesh ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias exei kostisei synolika stoys Ellhnes panw apo 3 dis eyrw h perissotero apo 1 tris draxmes. Ola ayta ta xronia, oi kybernhseis toy PASOK agnooysan systhmatika tis ypoxrewseis poy eixe h Ellada ws kratos-melos pros thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, se sxesh me thn Olympiakh Aeroporia kai parabiazan thn koinotikh nomoqesia agnowntas tis apofaseis ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs. Akribws gi@ ayto to logo, ton Oktwbrio toy 2003 h Epitroph strafhke kata ths Elladas enwpion toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy, epeidh h xwra mas den symmorfwqhke tote me thn apofash ths 11hs Dekembrioy toy 2002. H apofash zhtoyse thn epistrofh oikonomikhs yposthrijhs gia thn apotyxhmenh prospaqeia ejygianshs ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias apo to 1994 ews to 2004, kaqws kai paranomwn enisxysewn poy eixan xorhghqei sthn etairia. Opws einai gnwsto gia thn ypoqesh ayth, h Ellada katadikasthke apo to Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio. H prospaqeia anadiarqrwshs ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias, me to diaxwrismo toy pthtikoy ergoy kai th dhmioyrgia twn Olympiakwn Aerogrammwn to Septembrio toy 2003, prokalese dyo diatages paroxhs plhroforiwn poy apesteile h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph to Septembrio toy 2003 kai ton Ianoyario toy 2004. H adynamia paroxhs ikanopoihtikhs enhmerwshs apo thn Ellada, odhghse thn Epitroph na anoijei epishmws to sxetiko fakelo stis 16 Martioy toy 2004, dhladh liges mono hmeres meta tis ekloges ths 7hs Martioy. Gia thn ypoqesh ayth anamenoyme thn apofash toy Kolegioy twn Epitropwn se dyo hmeres. Einai fanero oti to synolo ths ypoqeshs ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias afora politikes prajeis kai paraleiceis poy synebhsan epi kybernhsewn PASOK. Ti ekane h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias molis anelabe to ergo ths;

Afoy oloklhrwqhkan oi Olympiakoi Agwnes, h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias, apodyqhke se mia entonh kai syntonismenh prospaqeia na diaxeiristei ayto to adiejodo poy periegraca. Khryje agono to diagwnismo poy brhke se ejelijh kai xwris kamia kaqysterhsh, amesws meta toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, organwqhke mia sobarh prospaqeia apokratikopoihshs gia tis Olympiakes Aerogrammes kai tis drasthriothtes ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias. Gia th diadikasia ayth, h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph krathqhke plhrws enhmerh. H ews twra proodos twn diadikasiwn apokratikopoihshs yphrje idiaitera shmantikh. Hdh apo tis arxes Aygoystoy, h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph exei labei to mnhmonio koinwn qesewn poy ypografhke me toys ypochfioys agorastes twn Olympiakwn Aerogrammwn. H anamenomenh apofash ths Tetarths kaqista th qesh ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias idiaitera dysxerh. H kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias, opws eipa kai prohgoymenws, den einai diateqeimenh -to eipe kai o Prwqypoyrgos xqes- na epitrecei na epibarynqoyn kai allo oi Ellhnes polites, xwris na yparxei elpida gia thn Olympiakh. Hdh, exoyme epejergastei enallaktikes lyseis gia thn epomenh hmera. Prwto melhma na mh breqoyn sto dromo oi xiliades ergazomenoi ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias kai twn Olympiakwn Aerogrammwn. Desmeysh mas einai: H proaspish twn dikaiwmatwn toys. H rhth dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy apotelei eggyhsh gia oloys toys ergazomenoys.

BLAXOS: Pws den qa breqoyn sto dromo kyrie ypoyrge;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ta armodia ypoyrgeia exoyn epejergastei mia seira apo diadikasies. Eite qa einai me eqeloysia, eite me apospaseis se alles yphresies toy dhmosioy. Qa breqei pantws o tropos kai qa anakoinwqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie ypoyrge, thlefwneis sthn Olympiakh, phgaineis se ena praktoreio ths kai soy lene oti to aeroplano einai gemato. Phgaineis, mpaineis lista anamonhs kai meta feygeis me to aeroplano ayto kai einai to miso gemato. Mhpws yparxei mesa apo thn Olympiakh kapoio problhma; Giati se idiwtikes etairies, feygoyn gemata kai sthn Olympiakh enw einai gemato, feygei miso.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas periegraca me poly analytiko tropo mia seira apo megala problhmata pollwn etwn, poly prin arxisei o antagwnismos apo alles etairies kai otan h Olympiakh Aeroporia htan monopwlio sthn Ellada.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto einai sobaro problhma.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den amfisbhtw kaqoloy ayto to opoio lete. Efoson symbainei bebaiws kai einai poly sobaro problhma. Sigoyra omws ta problhmata einai toso megala wste h apofash ths kybernhshs qa prepei na einai grhgorh sthn kateyqynsh poy sas anakoinwsa prohgoymenws.

BLAXOS: O kyrios Prwqypoyrgos xqes, eipe oti h dhmosionomikh katastash den mporei na toy dwsei th dynatothta na dwsei ena epidoma qermanshs. Gia th dhmosionomikh katastash ftaine oi politikoi. Emena den me endiaferei an o politikos einai mple h prasinos. Me endiaferei omws, oti h politikh kai h dhmosionomikh katastash empodizei enan aplo polith o opoios deinopaqei na parei ena epidoma poy qa ton kanei na perasei kalytera ton xeimwna. Kai milame gia xeimwna se orismenes perioxes, poy einai dysbastaxtos. Den prepei na yparxei mia eyaisqhsia estw kai kaqysterhmena apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai apo thn kybernhsh ayth estw kai an den eyqynetai gia ola ta pragmata poy symbainoyn sth xwra gi@ aytoys toys polites;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H eyaisqhsia einai diarkhs kai opws diapistwnete yparxei. Qa sas pw omws- kai epitrecte moy na milhsw ligo perissotero gi@ ayto- oti to ayrio syndeetai apolytws me tis apofaseis toy shmera. Opws kai to shmera orizetai apo tis apofaseis toy xqes. Ean oi apofaseis toy xqes htan tetoies -kai htan tetoies- poy odhghsan th xwra se ena elleimma panw apo 6%, poy odhghsan th xwra, th shmerinh kybernhsh na anagkastei na parei metra etsi wste na jeperastei ayto to problhma toy elleimmatos poy mas klhronomhse h prohgoymenh kybernhsh gia na eimaste entajei apenanti stis ypoxrewseis mas sthn Eyrwpaikh @Enwsh, poy odhghsan th shmerinh kybernhsh na kanei mia seira apo prospaqeies gia na ayjhsei ton antagwnismo, thn antagwnistikothta twn epixeirhsewn, na dhmioyrghsei nees qeseis ergasias, na bohqhsei thn oikonomia, tote blepontas ola ayta, qa diapistwsei kaneis oti tipota den einai jekommeno. To zhthma loipon ths eyaisqhsias, einai diarkes, einai omws dystyxws, ta problhmata tetoia poy den epitrepoyn -opws eipe kai o Prwqypoyrgos- na ginei kati tetoio shmera.

BLAXOS: Ayrio omws prepei na zoyn oi anqrwpoi, na mhn exoyn peqanei apo thn peina kai na mhn exoyn pagwsei. An einai na peqanoyn apo thn peina h apo to kryo kai ayrio na kanei o kyrios Prwqypoyrgos meta apo dyo xronia oti h oikonomia mas einai kalyterh, mporei kapoioi ap@ aytoys toys anqrwpoys na mh zoyne. Ara den toys endiaferei ti qa ginei meta apo dyo xronia. Aytoi exoyn problhma shmera, ayrio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kat@ arxas qa moy epitrecete na pw oti anaferomenoi genikws sthn oikonomia, thn orizoyme san na einai ejw apo th zwh mas. To na einai h oikonomia mas kalyterh den shmainei oti ena megeqos qa einai kalytero ejw apo th zwh mas. H oikonomia ths xwras einai mesa sth zwh mas. Einai ena megeqos to opoio qa bohqhsei th zwh toy Ellhna polith na ginei kalyterh ayrio. Ekeino loipon to dilhmma sto opoio exei na apanthsei ena politikos -kai anaferqhke dhmosiws kai o Prwqypoyrgos- einai: Eykoles apofaseis kai eyxaristes, alla se poly syntomo xroniko diasthma ta pragmata qa einai poly xeirotera h dyskoles apofaseis, qesmikes allages, qesmikes metarryqmiseis, wste se baqos xronoy na einai h katastash gia oloys poly kalyterh; Se ayta ta dilhmmata exoyn breqei kai alles eyrwpaikes xwres, polla xronia prin apo thn Ellada. Kai apanthsan me dyskoles apofaseis, oi opoies omws edwsan tetoies qesmikes metarryqmiseis, opoy epetrecan stis oikonomies toys na einai poly kalyteres kai gia oloys toys polites. Xwres oi opoies elaban tetoies apofaseis meiwsan kai thn anergia, bohqhsan thn ayjhsh toy eisodhmatos, thn anaptyjh kai thn antagwnistikothta. Ayto einai ena shmantiko dilhmma. H oikonomikh katastash thn opoia paralabame einai gnwsth se oloys. Th gnwrizoyn oloi oi Ellhnes polites, th gnwrizoyn kai oi Eyrwpaioi etairoi mas. H prospaqeia einai diarkhs. Elpizoyme ws to telos toy 2006, na exei epiteyxqei ayth h prospaqeia sto synolo ths, gia na mporesei h oikonomia na badisei pia se neoys dromoys, poly pio isxyroys apo to parelqon.

MAKRYGIANNHS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs, poy to Sabbato afhne emmesws na diafanei oti mporei na doqei to epidoma, den gnwrizei thn katastash ths oikonomias h aplws epeidh htan stis Bryjelles miloyse gia toys Aystriakoys, toys Germanoys k.t.l.;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelw na qymisw oti o k. Alogoskoyfhs, se dhmosia dhlwsh toy prin apo 15 hmeres -thn opoia epanelaba kai egw edw- eixe milhsei akribws me ta idia logia poy milhse xqes o Prwqypoyrgos, gia tis dyskolies ths dhmosionomikhs katastashs.

BLAXOS: Ayto einai karfi gia ton k. Alogoskoyfh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Den jerw ti ypainisseste. O k. Alogoskoyfhs exei perigracei, prwtos apo oloys, ayth thn katastash sthn opoia anaferqhke kai o Prwqypoyrgos.

BLAXOS: Ypainissomai to ejhs. Qa ejhghsw. O k. Alogoskoyfhs eipe ``paidia den eimai egw o kakos. O kakos poy den sas dinei to epidoma einai o Prwqypoyrgos. Egw symfwnw na doqei''. Kai eseis twra mas lete oti o kakos einai o Alogoskoyfhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Kanete megalo laqos kai diastellete, kata ermhneia poy den einai epitrepth, ta legomena moy. O k. Alogoskoyfhs pro 15nqhmeroy, milwntas dhmosiws, opws kai egw edw se ayth thn aiqoysa, dhlwsame tis dyskolies ths katastashs.

TSIODRAS: To Sabbato, epishs, dhmosiws, milhse kai eipe alla. Milhse gia epidoma@

ROYSOPOYLOS: To Sabbato anaferqhke, opws eixe thn eykairia na pei kai o idios shmera to prwi se synenteyjh toy -kai ayth thn wra dinei synenteyjh epishs se oloys toys dhmosiografoys- se mia apofash poy elhfqh entos twn plaisiwn toy EKOFIN.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Yparxoyn stoixeia, symfwna me ta opoia mono apo thn ayjhsh twn kaysimwn, toy petrelaioy k.t.l., ta esoda toy kratoys anerxontai se ekatommyria eyrw. Opws, epishs, allo ena stoixeio poy afora to kratos, einai kai h ayjhsh twn kerdwn twn ELPE. Apo olh ayth thn ayjhsh twn esodwn toy kratoys, den yparxei mia dynatothta, opws gia paradeigma ekanan kai alles synthrhtikes kybernhseis sth Gallia, opws eipe kai o k. (den akoygetai) den mporoyse h kybernhsh apo olo ayto to esodo na bgalei ena poso gia toys xamhlomisqoys, gia toys adynamoys, gyrw apo ayto to qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epitrecte moy na epanalabw kati poy eipa kai prin apo liges hmeres se ayth thn aiqoysa -to eipe kai o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn- gia thn ayjhsh twn esodwn, giati polla grafthkan h akoysthkan gia ayth thn ayjhsh. H ayjhsh twn esodwn, opws grafthke h akoysthke, den exei kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Sas qymizw oti to 80% twn esodwn apo to foro toy petrelaioy einai foros poy den einai analogikos kai to 20% toy FPA einai o analogikos foros. H de meiwsh ths katanalwshs exei oysiastika ferei sta idia epipeda ta esoda, se sxesh me ayta poy eixame perysi. Ekeino poy hqela na sas parakalesw einai oti, ean yparxoyn pio eidikes erwthseis gia ayto to qema, nomizw oti prolabainete na rwthsete ton Ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn, o opoios ayth thn wra dinei synenteyjh.

TSIODRAS: Exei milhsei o k. Doykas gia 250 ekatommyria omws.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa.

BAGIANOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh ejetazei oxi ena epidoma qermanshs, alla mia efapaj katabolh se kapoies perioxes h kati allo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei apanthsei o Prwqypoyrgos apo xqes.

BLAXOS: Den to apekleise ayto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei apanthsei, hdh apo xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos.

BLAXOS: Ara, den to apokleiete oyte eseis, kati na ginei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Menw se ayta poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos xqes.

MPOTSARAKOS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti o k. Alogoskoyfhs milhse gia apofaseis poy elhfqhsan sto plaisio toy EKOFIN. Omws, apo o,ti parakoloyqhsame oloi sth dhlwsh toy, eipe oti ejetazetai gia thn Ellada kai milhse sygkekrimena gia ypoyrgeia kai foreis, oi opoioi qa perikocoyn kapoies apo tis dapanes, etsi wste na yparjei h dynatothta na ejoikonomhqoyn xrhmata kai milhse malista gia tis asqenestera koinwnika omades. Ayto den afora to EKOFIN. Afora thn topoqethsh toy Ypoyrgoy Oikonomias gia thn Ellada. Kai rwtw, pws einai dynaton th mia hmera o Ypoyrgos na leei alla kai thn allh na diaceydete apo ton Prwqypoyrgo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti ta xrhmata poy diaxeirizontai ta ypoyrgeia kai oi foreis einai xrhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy kai apeyqynontai, epishs, ston ellhniko lao. Kai otan miloyme gia foreis, miloyme gia Dhmoys, gia Koinothtes. Dhladh, miloyme gia enan poly megalo ariqmo poy diaxeirizetai dhmosio xrhma, poy antleitai kai epistrefei ston ellhniko lao, me th morfh ergwn, paroxwn k.o.k.

BAGIANOS: H ejoikonomhsh, omws, afora thn kybernhsh, to pws qa xeiristei to poso.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se oloys osoi proanefera. Hdh, apo perysi exoyme mia poly megalh meiwsh sta ejoda twn Ypoyrgeiwn kai twn forewn. To gnwrizete ayto.

KAPRALOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh apo th leitoyrgia ths Epitrophs poy elegxei to jeplyma mayroy xrhmatos. Posa porismata exei ekdwsei ayth h Epitroph kai an sta xeria ths yparxei fakelos toy k. Dhmhtrh Kontomhna.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. Einai poly eidiko to erwthma poy moy kanate.

KYRITSHS: Na epistrecw sto qema toy petrelaioy. Eyrwpaikes xwres, opws h Gallia poy exei kybernhsh syggenh politika me th dikh sas kybernhsh, proxwrhse, piezontas tis petrelaikes biomhxanies na piesoyn kapws to periqwrio toy kerdoys. Sthn Ellada, to megalytero Diylisthrio einai kratiko. Giati den zhtate apo ta Diylisthria toy kratoys na sympiesoyn to periqwrio toy kerdoys, wste na meiwqei h timh ths benzinhs h na xrhmatodothsoyn to epidoma me kapoio tropo metaforas logistikhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eixate thn eykairia na akoysete na sas apanta sto erwthma me diaforetiko tropo, prin apo kairo, o k. Sioyfas, otan hrqe se ayth thn aiqoysa. Eipe, loipon, o k. Sioyfas kai epanalambanw oti enw exoyme mia ayjhsh ths tajhs toy 100% stis times toy petrelaioy, endexomenws kai panw apo to 100%, sthn Ellada h ayjhsh sta paragwga einai ths tajhs toy 20% ews 30%. @Exoyn ginei, hdh, loipon, polles sobares prospaqeies apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs na krathqoyn oi times se poly xamhlotera epipeda apo o,ti se alles eyrwpaikes xwres kai genikotera pagkosmiws.

BLAXOS: Opws gnwrizete, symfwna me to Syntagma, oloi oi Ellhnes einai isoi, exoyn tis idies ypoxrewseis kai tis idies eyqynes. Xqes, omws, o Prwqypoyrgos, enw proeklogika elege alla pragmata, mas apokalyce oti yparxoyn polites poy exoyn alles eyqynes. Kai enw gia toys politikoys poy eixan emplakei sto megalo skandalo to opoio, opws eixe pei o k. Karamanlhs, den paragrafetai, toy Xrhmatisthrioy, apo xqes loipon kai me th sfragida toy Prwqypoyrgoy, oi politikoi einai aqwoi gia to Xrhmatisthrio. Poy qa broyme to dikio mas emeis oi polites poy xasame ta lefta mas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai profanes oti parafrazete plhrws ta osa eipe o Prwqypoyrgos xqes.

BLAXOS: Eipe oti paragrafontai oi eyqynes gia toys politikoys. Den parafrazw tipota.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se mia Dhmokratia, gnwrizete@

BLAXOS: Den moy eipate tetoia pragmata. Mh moy lete oti parafrazw@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se mia dhmokratia, nomos den einai h apofash toy enos. Se mia dhmokratia yparxoyn nomoi.

BLAXOS: Toys opoioys, omws, chfizete eseis oi politikoi.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H dikh mas dhmokratia einai Koinoboyleytikh Dhmokratia. Me nomo poy eixe chfistei polla xronia prin, exoyn apodoqei ayta ta opoia eprepe h den eprepe. Ekeino poy egw qelw na pw, einai: H kybernhsh milhse gia to @@egklhma@@ toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Den allajan pote apoch, oyte o Prwqypoyrgos, oyte h kybernhsh. H paragrafh, opws gnwrizete, exei epelqei me nomo poy exei chfisei h prohgoymenh kybernhsh. Kai opws gnwrizete, epishs, sth nomikh episthmh den mporei na allajei ayto kai na exoyme neoy eidoys proseggish sto zhthma ths paragrafhs. Se o,ti afora ta politika proswpa, prepei kaneis na dei thn pragmatikothta katamata, na dei dhladh to nomo toy PASOK, o opoios bohqhse na paragrafei ayth h eyqynh gia ta politika proswpa. H kybernhsh exei thn eyqynh kai synexizei. H Dikaiosynh leitoyrgwntas anejarthtws, exei hdh proxwrhsei se kapoies energeies. Kai synexizei, ap@ oti gnwrizoyme prokeimenoy na dwsei apanthseis kai na epibalei tis kyrwseis se ekeinoys, oi opoioi epaijan me thn agora. Politika, to stigma gia to Xrhmatisthrio exei xrewqei apolytws sthn prohgoymenh kybernhsh, gia ton tropo poy xeiristhke ayth thn ypoqesh to 1999 @ 2000.

BLAXOS: Allajate to nomo peri eyqynhs ypoyrgwn, oytws wste sto mellon, ean symbei kati tetoio, na mhn paragrafontai oi eyqynes twn politikwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayth th stigmh den mporw na sas apanthsw. Qa synennohqw me to armodio ypoyrgeio kai qa exw apanthsh. @Omws, einai bebaio ayto poy sas eipa prohgoymenws: @Otan exei paragrafei kati me bash to nomo, den mporeis na fereis allo nomo, na to epanafereis, na paceis thn paragrafh. Kai ayto egine epi kybernhsews toy PASOK.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Na epanelqw ligo sthn Olympiakh. Gnwrizete, kyrie Ekproswpe, oti meta th xqesinh dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy -piqanon an oxi profanws ejaitias ths- apo shmera exoyme akyrwseis xiliadwn krathsewn gia tis epomenes ebdomades kai oti polloi promhqeytes proeidopoioyn oti qeloyn ta xrhmata toys kai den synergazontai me thn Olympiakh; Dioti kaneis idiwths den qelei na synergazetai me mia epixeirhsh, h opoia odeyei pros kleisimo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa kai prohgoymenws oti oi nomikes diadikasies diarkoyn xrono kai oti oi pthseis qa synexistoyn kanonika. Epishs, shmeiwsa oti shmera h Ellada, o Ellhnas poliths, plhrwnei 1,5 ekat. eyrw, kaqe mera, gia thn Olympiakh kai gia ta xreh ta opoia exei.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Epeidh o promhqeyths mporei na zhthsei ta xrhmata toy amesws, dioti fobatai oti qa ta xasei, ean symbei kati tetoio se mia genikeymenh klimaka me thn Olympiakh, h Olympiakh mporei na kleisei ayrio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa oti yparxei ena sxedio gia to opoio, en pollois, sas edwsa kapoia stoixeia wste na katalabete ti qa ginei me thn Olympiakh. Den mporoyse na ginei diaforetika me thn Olympiakh. Ta pragmata exoyn ftasei sto aproxwrhto edw kai polla xronia. Dystyxws, h prohgoymenh kybernhsh exontas krycei polla apo ta stoixeia apo thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, odhghse thn katastash ekei poy thn odhghse. Kai oi @Ellhnes polites, epanalambanw, exoyn plhrwsei panw apo 3 dis eyrw, mexri stigmhs, gi@ ayth thn ypoqesh.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Epeidh miloyme gia sygkekrimena pragmata aytes tis hmeres, ean kleisei h Olympiakh, qa yparxei ena megalo problhma kai me tis pthseis kai me toys epibates. Kai se sxesh me ayto, qa hqela na gnwrizw ean eseis gnwrizete gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Papagewrgioy, toy Proedroy ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias, twn Olympiakwn Aerogrammwn, o opoios miloyse gia sxeseis kybernhtikwn stelexwn me antagwnistes ths Olympiakhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw tetoies dhlwseis.

TSIODRAS: H kybernhsh exei kaqorisei poies qa einai oi ayjhseis sto EKAS kai stis agrotikes syntajeis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na sas dwsw apanthsh shmera.

TSIODRAS: O k. Panagiwtopoylos, o ypoyrgos Ergasias, milwntas sto MEGA, eipe gia ayjhseis diplasies apo ton plhqwrismo. Qa hqela na jerw an einai epishmh kybernhtikh politikh h an einai@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kati perissotero gi` ayto to qema.

KYRITSHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean h kybernhsh einai se qesh na eggyhqei oti meta thn Olympiakh qa ejakoloyqhsoyn na kalyptontai ta eqnikws eyaisqhta dromologia, ta opoia kalyptei shmera h Olympiakh, nhsia k.lp.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto einai aparaithto kai ypoxrewtiko na ginei.

KYRITSHS: Otan lete ``ypoxrewtiko'';

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws kai na exei to qema, opoia ejelijh kai an yparjei sthn ypoqesh@

KYRITSHS: Malista. Den mporeite na ypoxrewsete enan idiwth na petaei kapoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prosejte: Efoson proxwrhsei h diadikasia ths apokratikopoihshs, qa ypografoyn tetoies symfwnies wste ta aeroplana toy opoioy idiwth agorasei thn Olympiakh Aeroporia, na tajideyoyn se ola ta merh kai na mporoyn na ejyphretoyntai ta akritika mas nhsia, opws ginetai kai shmera.

MPESKENHS: Eipe, xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos gia diasfalish ergasiakwn dikaiwmatwn twn ergazomenwn. H Olympiakh exei kai ariqmo epoxikwn, symbasioyxwn, ergazomenoi oi opoioi proslambanontai sthn Olympiakh gia na kalycoyn anagkes. Me aytoys ti ginetai; Symperilambanontai se ayth th diasfalish ergasiakwn dikaiwmatwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws sas eipa prohgoymenws, to armodio ypoyrgeio epejergazetai ena sxedio. Otan qa einai etoimo ayto to sxedio, qa anakoinwqei.

TSIODRAS: Sthn prohgoymenh erwthsh, eipate oti ``opoios idiwths agorasei thn Olympiakh''. Den to katalaba. Ap` o,ti exw katalabei, pame se ekkaqarish en leitoyrgia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Giati exete katalabei monon ayto; Sas anefera dyo dromoys: O prwtos einai aytos ths idiwtikopoihshs, ths pwlhshs ths etairias kai o deyteros einai aytos poy anefera, ean den pwlhqei h etairia. Eginan hdh treis, tesseris apopeires epi PASOK kai den breqhke agorasths. Emeis jekinhsame mia nea diadikasia, ton perasmeno Oktwbrio. Yparxei dieqnhs etairia poy parakoloyqei ayth th diadikasia. Efoson breqei idiwths, qa poylhqei h etairia se idiwth.

TSIODRAS: Milhsate gia proorismoys kai gia symfwnia, prokeimenoy na kalyptontai ta dromologia ekei. Ean kleisei h Olympiakh, h symfwnia me poion qa ginei; Me kapoia idiwtikh etairia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws jerete, ston antagwnismo kai sthn agora toy shmera den menoyn kena h den menoyn gia poly kairo kena.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Ejetazei h kybernhsh, o Prwqypoyrgos, to fakelo poy exei ftasei sto grafeio toy, symfwna me plhrofories ths efhmeridas ``TO QEMA'' poy ergazomai, gia epidothseis pronomiakoy xarakthra sthn etairia toy yfypoyrgoy ygeias, k. Kwnstantopoyloy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ap` oti gnwrizw, yparxei analytikh anakoinwsh toy yfypoyrgoy k. Kwnstantopoyloy, h opoia kalyptei apolytws to qema.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Den yparxei qema hqikhs tajhs, sto gegonos oti epilexqhkan telika dyo, h mia ek twn opoiwn htan h dikh toy etairia gia na primodothqoyn, apo enan katalogo 15 proegkekrimenwn etairiwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To zhthma afora mia ypoqesh, h opoia jekinhse kai teleiwse me egkrish -fakeloys poy ereynhqhkan apo yphresies- epi kybernhsews PASOK. Ayto ginetai safes apo thn anakoinwsh toy k. Kwnstantopoyloy. Den exw na prosqesw tipote perissotero.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Kai mia erwthsh se allo qema: Sas enhmerwse o k. Paterakhs oti mexri ton Ioynio misqodotoyntan apo etairia, h opoia paragei kinhthres gia polemika aeroplana;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa meinw sthn epistolh, thn opoia exw steilei sthn efhmerida sas. Den qa pw tipota perissotero.

Sas eyxaristw.


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