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Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-01-30

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 30 Ianoyarioy 2006

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY

APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

O Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei, ayrio stis 09:30, sto Megaro Majimoy, me antiproswpeia toy Eyrwpaikoy Ebraikoy Symboylioy. H synanthsh eixe programmatistei gia shmera, alla logw kwlymatos toy Proedroy toy Eyrwpaikoy Ebraikoy Symboylioy, o opoios erxetai apo to ejwteriko, den katesth dynaton na pragmatopoihqei. Stis 10:00 qa synanthqei me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Serbias k. Mporits Tantits kai stis 11:00 qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me qema ``Nomoqetikes ryqmiseis gia ton perifereiako Typo''. Sas exw milhsei kai alles fores sto parelqon gia to nomosxedio poy proetoimasthke, me diaboyleyseis peripoy 14 mhnwn, me oles tis eparxiakes enwseis gia ton perifereiako Typo.

Epitrecte moy na kanw dyo akomh anakoinwseis poy exoyn sxesh me qemata Meswn Enhmerwshs: Se ligh wra qa ftasoyn epistoles sta grafeia twn arxhgwn twn kommatwn, ston k. Papandreoy, thn k. Paparhga kai ton k. Alabano oi opoies aforoyn th synexish toy dhmosioy dialogoy sxetika me th sygkentrwsh twn Meswn Enhmerwshs kai thn adeiodothsh twn hlektronikwn Meswn Enhmerwshs. Sas lew mono oti anaferetai sto oti oloklhrwqhke h prwth fash me th symmetoxh twn emplekomenwn forewn stis 16 Ianoyarioy, opws akribws eixame anakoinwsei to Dekembrio. Sth deyterh fash, kaloyme toys ekproswpoys twn kommatwn se mia syzhthsh, thn Pempth 2 Febroyarioy, sto kthrio ths Genikhs Grammateias Epikoinwnias kai Enhmerwshs. Sthn epistolh, zhtw apo toys arxhgoys twn kommatwn na orisoyn enan h dyo ekproswpoys toys gi` ayth th syzhthsh, sthn opoia qa toys paradoqoyn ta keimena poy exoyn hdh steilei oi foreis ws protaseis gia qemata sygkentrwshs kai adeiodothshs twn hlektronikwn MME. En synexeia -to exw anakoinwsei ayto allwste apo ton Dekembrio- qa exoyme thn trith fash: Mia nea syzhthsh me th symmetoxh twn forewn kai me bash thn kwdikopoihsh poy qa exei ginei apo tis protaseis twn idiwn twn forewn kai fysika twn kommatwn, efoson to epiqymoyn. Qa akoloyqhsei -to qymizw gia thn istoria- h syntajh toy nomosxedioy kai parallhla h enhmerwsh ths Epitrophs Qesmwn kai Diafaneias. Sthn Epitroph qa zhthsoyme tis apoceis kai twn boyleytwn poy metexoyn gi` ayto to shmantiko sxedio nomoy. Exoyn hdh stalei apo ton Dekembrio, se oloys toys boyleytes, keimena sxetika me th sygkentrwsh twn MME kai ta krithria adeiodothshs twn hlektronikwn Meswn Enhmerwshs. Zhteitai apo oloys toys boyleytes, efoson to epiqymoyn, na metexoyn kai aytoi, opws kai kaqe Ellhnas poliths, se ayto ton anoixto dialogo gia th syntajh enos nomosxedioy.

To keimeno ths epistolhs poy apestalh stoys arxhgoys twn kommatwn exei ws ejhs:

``Opws gnwrizete, o dhmosios dialogos sxetika me thn sygkentrwsh twn MME kai thn adeiodothsh twn hlektronikwn MME brisketai hdh se ejelijh. H proqesh ths Kybernhshs einai gnwsth: h nomoqetikh ryqmish aytwn twn qematwn na proxwrhsei me thn eyryterh dynath synainesh toso se epipedo koinwnikwn forewn, oso kai se epipedo koinoboyleytikwn kommatwn.

H prwth fash toy dialogoy oloklhrwqhke me th symmetoxh twn emplekomenwn forewn. H proqesmia gia thn ypobolh twn protasewn elhje thn 16h Ianoyarioy 2006. Oloi oi endiaferomenoi foreis apesteilan tis protaseis toys, eite hlektronika ston eidika diamorfwmeno diadiktyako topo, eite eggrafws sto grafeio moy. H de epejergasia kai kwdikopoihsh toys oloklhrwnetai.

Opws sas eixa hdh enhmerwsei, me thn apo 22.12.05 epistolh moy, oi protaseis qa teqoyn se syzhthsh me ta politika kommata me stoxo thn oloklhrwsh toy dialogoy sto telos Febroyarioy 2006.

Sto plaisio ths prwtoboylias ayths, sas kalw na orisete kai na mas gnwstopoihsete ews dyo ekproswpoys gia na symmetasxoyn se synanthsh thn Pempth 2 Febroyarioy 2006 kai wra 11:00 sto kthrio ths Genikhs Grammateias Epikoinwnias @ Enhmerwshs''.

Ena akomh qema poy afora Mesa Enhmerwshs kai eidikotera ta perifereiaka Mesa Enhmerwshs: Shmera stis 14:30, qa ginei h paradosh toy ktirioy ths odoy Pindaroy 6. Einai to palio neoklasiko kthrio, to opoio opws gnwrizete, stegaze kapote tis yphresies toy Aqhnaikoy Praktoreioy Eidhsewn kai sth synexeia toy Eqnikoy Symboylioy Radiothleorashs. Ayto to kthrio, to opoio exei noikiasei h Grammateia Epikoinwnias kai Enhmerwshs, diamorfwqhke toys teleytaioys mhnes, wste na ikanopoihsei tis anagkes twn 7 eparxiakwn Enwsewn, radiofwnwn, thleorasewn kai efhmeridwn. Einai mia desmeysh ths kybernhshs poy ylopoieitai se poly syntomo xroniko diasthma. To meshmeri stis 14:30 qa paradoqei to kthrio stis 7 Enwseis. Eiste kalesmenoi, an qelete na eiste ki eseis ekei, sto xwro, gia na sas enhmerwsw. Yparxoyn, ektos apo grafeia gia kaqe Enwsh, stoyntio gia radiofwnikes kai thleoptikes ekpompes, se mia prospaqeia na bohqhqoyn oi synadelfoi sas ths perifereias, ean qelhsoyn na ergastoyn gia mia mera h gia liges wres sthn Aqhna, na exoyn ena xwro filojeno gi` aytoys. Epishs, yparxei xwros synedriasewn kok.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SIDERHS: Mhpws qa mporoyse na htan filojeno kai gia to briefing, anti na mas fernete edw katw;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, einai enas xwros o opoios qa diateqei mono gia tis 7 perifereiakes Enwseis. O xwros poy briskomaste twra einai mia xara. Poly kalyteros ap` o,ti htan kaqe prohgoymenos.

XIWTHS: Ap` o,ti katalaba, thn Pempth einai bary to programma sas, ara den qa asxolhqeite me ton anasxhmatismo, apo th stigmh poy kaleite toys arxhgoys se dialogo. Mhpws mporeite na mas peite@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den kalw toys arxhgoys se dialogo, na mhn parejhghqw. Stelnw epistoles stoys arxhgoys twn kommatwn kai kalw ta kommata se dialogo, me ekproswpo poy qa orisoyn oi arxhgoi.

XIWTHS: Gia thn Pempth 2 Febroyarioy@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai, gia thn Pempth 2 Febroyarioy stis 11 to prwi.

XIWTHS: Mhpws mporeite na mas peite to programma sas gia thn Paraskeyh kai gia thn epomenh ebdomada;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To diko moy programma;

XIWTHS: Nai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egw synhqizw na anakoinwnw to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, oxi to diko moy.

XIWTHS: Exete na mas peite kati se sxesh me ton anasxhmatismo, giati fantazomai oti ayta poy mas legate thn prohgoymenh periodo oti den tiqetai qema anasxhmatismoy, den isxyoyn pleon;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den allazw tipota ap` osa sas exw pei mexri twra.

XIWTHS: Lete oti den yparxei qema anasxhmatismoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O,ti exw pei gia ton anasxhmatismo, pleistakis exw epanalabei edw oti einai pronomia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, mhn ta janalew edw, o,ti exw pei, isxyei.

XIWTHS: Egw sas rwthsa kati sygkekrimeno. An tiqetai qema anasxhmatismoy h oxi.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai ayto to exw apanthsei. Isxyei, loipon, o,ti exw pei.

XIWTHS: Ti exete apanthsei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Parte ta briefings, einai ola sto site ths Grammateias Epikoinwnias kai Enhmerwshs. Antilambanomai oti exei ena endiaferon to qema. Blepw ki egw ta dhmosieymata kaqhmerina. Egw, loipon, den exw na pw tipota perissotero gi` ayto to qema.

XIWTHS: Exete pei oti den tiqetai qema anasxhmatismoy. Se mia allh fash eipate oti kapote anasxhmatismos qa ginei ki emeis oi dhmosiografoi qa leme oti wdinen oros kai eteken myn. Ayta ta dyo einai antifatika metajy toys. To qema einai, exete na mas peite kati neotero s`ayto; As diagracoyme tis palies dhlwseis sas. Kante mia oloklhrwmenh kainoyria dhlwsh, na thn katagracoyme.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

BLAXOS: Prin apo ligo emaqa oti o k. Panos Panagiwtopoylos, Ypoyrgos Ergasias mexri ayth th stigmh, eipe oti oles oi metarryqmiseis ths kybernhshs exoyn perasei apo ta xeria toy. Ara, symperasmatiko einai oti an antikatastaqei, oysiastika einai san na akyrwnei tis metarryqmiseis o k. Karamanlhs; Dhladh, dexeste tetoia mhnymata apo Ypoyrgoys poy deixnoyn oti qeloyn na parameinoyn sto Ypoyrgeio toys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den sxoliazw, exete kanei ena tetoio lektiko alma kai alma eikotologias to opoio den qa sxoliasw.

BLAXOS: H erwthsh einai, an dexeste mhnymata apo Ypoyrgoys oti qeloyn na parameinoyn stis qeseis toys.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei h prohgoymenh apanthsh.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den problhmatizei ton Prwqypoyrgo h eikona ths kybernhshs, to gegonos dhladh oti Ypoyrgoi poy ferontai pros antikatastash deixnoyn na mhn synexizoyn to ergo toys, enw alloi Yfypoyrgoi poy ferontai epishs pros antikatastash, dhlwnoyn se synadelfoys toys oti ``egw den paw poyqena''; Yparxei ena topio to opoio apotypwnetai kai sta Mesa.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa kai prohgoymenws kai qa to janapw: Se eikotologies h fhmes h dhqen plhrofories, den qa kanw kanena sxolio. Den dexomai se kamia periptwsh oti yparxoyn Ypoyrgoi, Yfypoyrgoi, oi opoioi den ergazontai h den fernoyn se peras to ergo toys.

KORAH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o Prwqypoyrgos sthn Kina mas eipe ``mhn jyneste sthn gklitsa toy tsopanh''. Kata kapoio tropo proanhggeile ton anasxhmatismo. To metaniwse h qa ginei o anasxhmatismos mexri tis 7 Martioy poy einai kai to meson ths qhteias; Einai poly aplo kai jekaqaro to erwthma. Perimenoyme mia apanthsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai ena alma skecews, eikotologias, to opoio diapistwnw oti to epanaferete sto press room, enw to exete hdh gracei sthn efhmerida sas shmera. To diabasa. Den symfwnw kaqoloy. Exete kanei mia ermhneia mias syzhthshs me ton Prwqypoyrgo, etsi opws eseis nomizete.

KORAH: Ths peri gklitsas ennoeite; Ayth thn ermhneia; Kakws ermhneysame oti anaferetai se anasxhmatismo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa.

KAKALHS: Poioi einai oi logoi poy ypagoreyoyn ayton ton fhmologoymeno anasxhmatismo; Mhpws einai mia omologia apotyxias ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthste gyrw sas. Den jerw. Egw diabazw dhmosieymata. Se o,ti afora thn kybernhsh, exw parei qesh gia to qema.

KAKALHS: Me dedomeno oti den allazeis mia omada poy proxwraei, symfwna me thn podosfairikh dialekto. An proxwrhsei se anasxhmatismo, den einai kai mia omologia apotyxias ths politikhs ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Krathste tis erwthseis sas. Se erwthseis me to ``ean'', sas exw pei oti den apantw.

SIDERHS: H parembash poy ekana prin, htan mia paraklhsh olwn mas, epeidh einai dyskolo na erxomaste edw kai den qelete na to katalabete.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Eilikrina, den qelw na to katalabw. To ellhniko Dhmosio jodece para polla xrhmata, prokeimenoy na ergazeste se para poly kales synqhkes, poly kalyteres apo o,ti se opoiadhpote allh periodo. Den antilambanomai, loipon, ayth thn emmonh sas. Qa afhsoyme ta xrhmata poy jodecan oi Ellhnes polites gia na ftiaxtei ayto to ypermonterno kthrio twn Grammateiwn Epikoinwnias kai Enhmerwshs gia na pame kapoy alloy; Giati; Den sas boleyei 10 lepta perissotero na xrhsimopoihsete ena aytokinhto gia na erqete edw; Sas parakalw poly mhn to epanaferete etsi, giati nomizw oti einai san na mhn sebomaste akribws thn politikh apofash kai ta xrhmata toy Ellhna polith poy jodeythkan gia ayto to ypermonterno kthrio. Mh rixnete nero twra sto mylo kapoiwn poy dhmioyrgoyn problhmata se ayth thn ypoqesh.

SIDERHS: Enas anasxhmatismos ypotiqetai oti dinei mia nea pnoh se ena kybernhtiko sxhma. Etsi poy exei afhsei o Prwqypoyrgos na karkinobathsei h ypoqesh toy anasxhmatismoy, den exei ekpneysei pleon kaqe ypotiqemenh wqhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Na sas kanw mia protash me dyo skelh: Prwton, krathste opoies erwthseis exete gia ton anasxhmatismo, efoson aytos ginei, otan ginei. Kai deyteron, mh me rwtate kaqe hmera gia ton anasxhmatismo. Den exw na pw tipote perissotero apo ayta poy exw pei.

SIDERHS: Den sas eixa rwthsei pote. Einai diaforetikh h erwthsh poy ekana. Epitrepete kai allh mia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apeyqynw thn apanthsh se oloys.

SIDERHS: O Prwqypoyrgos, xqes, eipe ``antimetwpisame kai antimetwpizoyme polemo organwmenwn symferontwn''. Exoyn onoma ayta ta symferonta;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai safhs sth dhlwsh toy.

PAPAGIANNHS: Xqes, o k. Meimarakhs oysiastika apeilhse ta kommatika stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias oti efoson se kapoies topikes koinwnies doqoyn politikes sthrijeis kai kommatika xrismata, tote aytoi, ean qeloyn na kateboyn ws anejarthtoi ypochfioi, qa diagrafoyn. Eseis symfwneite me thn topoqethsh toy k. Meimarakh, dedomenoy oti oi ekloges gia thn topikh Aytodioikhsh afhnoyn toylaxiston eleyqeres tis topikes koinwnies, opws eipe o k. Karamanlhs, na epilejoyn aytoys poy qeloyn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prwton, o Prwqypoyrgos ekane safh anafora sto qema toy pws antilambanetai h Nea Dhmokratia tis ekloges gia thn Topikh kai th Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh. Deyteron, se o,ti afora to komma, mporeite na rwthsete sto komma. Kai triton -kai oysiwdestero se sxesh me to sxolio poy kanate- den yparxei poyqena kanenos eidoys apeilh sta osa eipe o Grammateas ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Meimarakhs.

KORAH: To anoigma toy Prwqypoyrgoy pros ta alla kommata gia synergasies stis dhmotikes kai nomarxiakes ekloges se topiko epipedo, afora kai to PASOK h einai enas genikos politikos oros poy xrhsimopoihse o Prwqypoyrgos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos eqese ws prwto stoxo th lysh problhmatwn twn topikwn koinwniwn, me prwtoboylies stis topikes koinwnies. Den qa pw tipote perissotero. Ayto afora oloys toys polites se kaqe topikh koinwnia.

POYLIDOY: Exw dyo erwthseis. H prwth afora th synenteyjh poy edwse o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias A. Gkioyl sthn ``Kyriakatikh Eleyqerotypia'' opoy kalei thn ellhnokypriakh pleyra na apanthsei sygkekrimena me tis dikes ths protaseis epi toy Kypriakoy. Xarh sthn kalh synergasia poy exete me th Leykwsia, gnwrizete ean ayto qa ginei kai pote peripoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na sas apanthsw. Ekeino poy qelw na pw mono genika einai oti ontws yparxei ayth h kalh synergasia. H kypriakh pleyra qa kanei tis protaseis ths, anejarthtws toy an thn kalei o k. Gkioyl h oxi, otan, bebaiws, oi protaseis aytes einai etoimes, einai epejergasmenes. Otan ekeinh krinei, en pash periptwsei, gia na mhn leme polla logia.

POYLIDOY: Kai h deyterh erwthsh moy: Thn Paraskeyh apokalyfqhke apo diarroh ston kypriako Typo oti stis 29 Dekembrioy o k. Papadopoylos eixe labei mia epistolh apo ton k. Anan poy toy gnwstopoioyse thn proqesh toy na diorisei apestalmeno. Qelw na rwthsw, ean eseis hsastan enhmeroi gi` ayth thn epistolh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas parakalw, apeyqynqeite sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Den to gnwrizw to qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Se aytes tis protaseis poy exoyn ginei gia ta qemata toy Typoy, gia to neo nomosxedio poy etoimazetai, exoyn erqei kai protaseis apo thn ESHEA;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H ESHEA apesteile epistolh stis 23 Ianoyarioy , sthn opoia emperiexontai synoptika kapoies prwtes epishmanseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Meta apo ayto poy egine sthn teleytaia kakokairia, h kybernhsh exei parei ta metra ths, wste se mia allh kainoyrgia kakokairia na mhn exoyn pali diakopes reymatos me ayta ta epakoloyqa;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To ti akribws exei symbei sthn Kefalonia kai thn Iqakh, eixe eipwqei me analytika stoixeia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mh symbei kai alloy, gi` ayto to lew. An yparxei synthrhsh toylaxiston sta@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti se ekeina ta analytika stoixeia anaferame oti eixame ptwsh dyo pylwnwn sto borra kai epta pylwnwn sto noto apo anemostrobilo kai apo kakes kairikes synqhkes. Epishs, eixame ptwsh sto eswteriko diktyo ths DEH sthn Kefalonia kai thn Iqakh, panw apo 80 jylinwn stylwn. Milame gia prwtofanes fainomeno, to opoio ofeiletai bebaiws stis kakes kairikes synqhkes poy epikrathsan me anemostrobiloys poy anaptyxqhkan sto nhsi. Antilambaneste oti otan exoyme toso ektetamenh ptwsh pylwnwn poy einai ftiagmenoi apo sidhro h atsali -en pash periptwsei apo anqektika ylika- kai panw apo 80 jylinwn stylwn panw stoys opoioys akoympoyn ta kalwdia ths DEH gia na metaferqei to reyma, einai prwtofaneis synqhkes. Den einai synqhkes poy problepontai. Den einai, dhladh, oti egine ena anqrwpino laqos kai kophke to reyma, epese enas diakopths, xalase ena mhxanhma poy kai ayto einai mesa sta plaisia toy nomoy twn piqanothtwn. Edw leme oti epesan 80 jylinoi styloi kai sxedon 10 siderenioi pylwnes. Einai prwtofanes to kairiko fainomeno poy anaptyxqhke sthn Kefalonia me anemostrobiloys. Ean exete kapoion poy zei ekei kai epikoinwnhsete mazi toy qa sas to epibebaiwsei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sto Barnaba den egine to idio k. Ypoyrge, edw, dipla mas kai milhsan oloi oti den yparxei synthrhsh kai oti exoyn xronia na synthrhqoyn. Ayto to proxwra toylaxiston h kybernhsh gia na mhn janaexoyme, logw synthrhshs, alles diakopes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Na epanalabw oti exei hdh yparjei dhlwsh, apo thn prwth kiolas hmera. Sth synexeia, eginan polles dhlwseis kai apo ton armodio ypoyrgo. Kai h DEH exei kanei anakoinwseis gia th synthrhsh toy diktyoy. Ena diktyo para poly megalo, mhkoys 210.000 xiliometrwn, to opoio synthreitai kai bebaia prepei na synthreitai synexws gia na mhn dhmioyrgoyntai problhmata.

TSIODRAS: Antilambanomai oti den qelete na peite tipota se sxesh me to zhthma toy anasxhmatismoy. Omws, qa moy epitrecete na epimeinw kai epeidh to apodidete stoys dhmosiografoys thn anakinhsh toy qematos, nomizw oti qa mporoyse na stamathsei aneta me mia dikh sas dhlwsh oti den tiqetai qema anasxhmatismoy h mia dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Qa mporoysate na thn kanete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei. H k. Korah kai o k. Xiwths me rwthsan to idio, an dhladh isxyoyn oi dhlwseis poy exw kanei kai apanthsa ``nai''. Den katalabainw, loipon.

TSIODRAS: Den exete kanei mono ayth th dhlwsh oti den tiqetai qema anasxhmatismoy. Exete pei oti einai pronomio toy Prwqypoyrgoy, oti oi anasxhmatismoi den proanaggellontai @

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sto idio mhkos kymatos exoyn kinhqei oles oi dhlwseis moy. Mhn mataioponeite.

PAPAGIANNHS: Epeidh den eixame th dynatothta thn prohgoymenh ebdomada na ta poyme, qelw na moy kanete ena sxolio gia thn kloph toy stratiwtikoy oxhmatos ``Xamer'', kaqws epishs kai gia thn apodrash toy nearoy apo to astynomiko Tmhma ths Xalkidas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite ``den eixame th dynatothta oloklhrh thn ebdomada na ta poyme''; To briefing ginotan kaqe hmera.

PAPAGIANNHS: Nai, den eixame th dynatothta na synanthsoyme esas, thn Pempth kai thn Paraskeyh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ontws, thn Pempth kai thn Paraskeyh den hrqa. Exei ginei hdh sxolio apo ton k. Antwnaro.

BLAXOS: O k. Karamanlhs einai ikanopoihmenos apo th leitoyrgia toy kybernhtikoy sxhmatos shmera;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei sta erwthmata peri toy ``ikanopoihmenos h oxi'' polles fores.

BLAXOS: Gia shmera. Allo xqes.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei me poly sygkekrimeno tropo. Profanws, den qymaste thn apanthsh moy. Qymhqeite th kai qa exete parei kai tis apanthseis.

BLAXOS: Pote apanthsate k. Roysopoyle;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa teleytaia fora prin apo mia ebdomada, deka hmeres. Sas exw pei oti den qa ekfrazw sthn aiqoysa ayth ta aisqhmata toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

BLAXOS: Den einai qema ta aisqhmata. Einai ean o Prwqypoyrgos, o opoios proistatai toy kybernhtikoy sxhmatos, einai ikanopoihmenos. Den einai qema aisqhmatos. Einai qema@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti dhloi ikanopoihsews, prajh;

BLAXOS: Exei ginei. To qema ths DEH, to qema me to aytokinhto sto stratopedo ths Xalkidas. Exoyn ginei tosa pragmata sthn ebdomada ayth poy den exete pei. Qelw, loipon, na moy peite shmera, meta apo osa exoyn ginei tis teleytaies 10 hmeres, ean epanalambanete to an einai o k. Karamanlhs ikanopoihmenos me th leitoyrgia toy kybernhtikoy sxhmatos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws katalabainete, to kybernhtiko sxhma, den eyqynetai gia ton ean eklaph h oxi ena aytokinhto se stratopedo. Exei sigoyra poly megalh shmasia gia to oti yphrje ayto to gegonos, oxi toso megalh, oso isws oti eklaphsan prin apo merika xronia stoixeia oplismoy sthn Kw, gia na mh qymhqw mia seira apo alles periptwseis tis opoies gnwrizoyme oloi kai qymomaste. Exei sigoyra shmasia. Oi eyqynes qa apodoqoyn ekei poy prepei na apodoqoyn. Opws gnwrizete, exoyn hdh kinhqei oi diadikasies dienergeias anakrisewn. Kata ta loipa, se o,ti afora to kybernhtiko sxhma, exw dhlwsei me poly safhneia ta osa exw pei kai exw dhlwsei se ayth thn aiqoysa. Den xreiazetai na ta epanalabw.

BLAXOS: Giati den ta epanalambanete; Egw den to qymamai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas parakalw. Akoyste me. Teinei to briefing na metablhqei se ena paixnidi diaproswpikwn erwthsewn-apanthsewn. Qa parakalesw para poly na sebasteite th diadikasia toy briefing. Sas exw pei, oi erwthseis poy ypoballete, einai diko sas dikaiwma. Oi apanthseis einai epishs diko moy dikaiwma. Ean qelete na epimenete, epanalambanontas tesseris h pente fores thn kaqe erwthsh mono kai mono gia na problhqei to brady apo to kanali sas ayth h antiparaqesh, epitrecte moy na mh symmetexw sth diadikasia.

BLAXOS: Egw den exw mazi sas kamia antiparaqesh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw dhlwsei polles fores, oydepote se ayth thn aiqoysa eipa h qa pw peri toy ean o Prwqypoyrgos einai h den einai ikanopoihmenos h dysaresthmenos me kati. Ara, loipon, otan einai toso safhs h apanthsh moy, thn exw epanalabei toses polles fores h loipon h mnhmh sas einai asqenhs h qelete aplws na dhmioyrghsete entypwseis.

BLAXOS: Einai asqenhs h mnhmh moy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean loipon einai asqenhs h mnhmh sas, parakalw na enhmerwneste prin erqete sthn aiqoysa. Janadiabaste loipon erwthseis kai apanthseis poy exoyn ginei poly syntoma. Sth deyterh periptwsh, foboymai oti h deyterh isxyei perissotero, qa sas parakaloysa para poly, na sebastoyme kai to xwro kai to proswpo sto opoio apeyqyneste kai th diadikasia kai toys synadelfoys sas. Den einai mia proswpikh leitoyrgia to briefing, opoy erxetai kapoios edw gia na kanei deka erwthseis, tis idies kaqe fora. Parakalw para poly.

BLAXOS: Me sygxwreite, ayto den einai mesa sta kaqhkonta toy dhmosiografoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sta kaqhkonta moy, einai na sas apantw. Alla eikazw oti kai sta dika sas kaqhkonta einai na erwtate.

BLAXOS: Ayto den kanw; Eseis dinete to nohma ths antiparaqeshs, egw den to dinw to nohma ths antiparaqeshs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean loipon rwtate, pairnete mia apanthsh kai epanalambanete alles 3-4-5 fores thn erwthsh sas. Edw pleon den einai qema erwthshs.

BLAXOS: Alla ti einai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Poyqena ston kosmo, den symbainei ayto to pragma k. Blaxo. Erxeste, rwtate. Pairnete mia apanthsh. Den sas ikanopoiei. Sas ikanopoiei, den sas ikanopoiei, ayth einai h apanthsh.

BLAXOS: Ma den moy dinete apanthsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To na epanalambanete 2-3-4-5 fores thn idia erwthsh, epitrecte moy na pw oti jefeygei apo th diadikasia enhmerwshs kai paei sth logikh ``sooy''. E, loipon, egw se ena ``sooy'' den symmetexw. Kai parakalw poly kai toys ypoloipoys synadelfoys sas na katanohsoyn ayto poy lew.

BLAXOS: Einai omws diaforetiko to na@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Den qa synexisw th syzhthsh k. Blaxo. Kanete erwthsh, lambanete apanthsh. Den sas ikanopoiei; Exete olh thn anesh@

BLAXOS: Na janarwthsw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete olh thn anesh na krinete ton omiloynta, ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo, na bgeite sto kanali sas kai na peite oti qelete. Alla ayth h diadikasia ``janarwtw kai janarwtw to idio pragma'', epitrecte moy, exei kai ena orio. Ta dyo xronia pleon poy kanw to briefing, to epanalambanete synexws. Parakalw para poly kai kalw kai oloys toys dhmosiografoys: Edw eimai Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, moy kanete erwthsh, sas apantw. Den sas ikanopoiei h apanthsh moy; Mporeite na kanete opoio sxolio qelete enantion moy, to brady sto deltio sas. Alla mh synexizete ayth thn istoria. Einai pleon koyrastikh, gia na mhn sas pw oti qa ginei, se ligo, kai asteia k. Blaxo.

BLAXOS: Den mporeite omws na moy afairesete to dikaiwma na janarwtaw gia deyterh fora, na kanw thn idia erwthsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ma den sas afairw kanena dikaiwma. Ayto akribws syzhtame. Moy epanalambanete jana to idio pragma, pente fores.

BLAXOS: Ma einai shmantikh h xronikh stigmh poy kapoios ekproswpos kanei mia dhlwsh. Dhmosiografos hsastan kai to jerete poly kala.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws. Me rwthsate gi` ayto to qema kai sas anefera oti isxyei ayto poy exw dhlwsei prin liges hmeres. Moy lete loipon, na sas epanalabw ti exw pei. E, oxi, me sygxwreite! Sas eipa, loipon, ti isxyei. Sas eipa ti exw pei. Giati to epanalambanete to erwthma perissoteres ths mia h dyo forwn; To katanow to erwthma sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa synedriasei mesa sthn ebdomada to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio; Yparxei kati programmatismeno;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den exw kati. An yparxei kapoia synedriash qa sas thn anakoinwsw.

SPYRAKH: Exw dyo erwthseis kyrie Ekproswpe. H prwth afora an h kybernhsh ektima oti htan egkairh h fysikh paroysia ekproswpoy ths sthn Kefalonia. Sas qymizw oti o k. Salagkoydhs, metebh ston topo opoy yphrxan problhmata pente hmeres meta thn ekdhlwsh toy symbantos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Shmasia eixe na htan egkairh, me ayto poy epetrepan oi kairikes synqhkes, h paroysia twn synergeiwn gia thn apokatastash ths zhmias.

SPYRAKH: Malista. Kai h deyterh erwthsh poy qelw na sas kanw, einai an diagignwskete meta tis ereynes poy ginontai gia thn kloph toy ``Xamer'' apo to stratopedo, an katalhgete oti yparxoyn eyqynes peran toy Dioikhth toy Tagmatos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas, to opoio kanei tis ereynes, qa anakoinwsei ta porismata toy.

POYLIDOY: O k. Boylgarakhs, thn idia hmera poy eixan ``kopei'' ta Temph, mphke sto aytokinhto toy kai phge sth Qessalonikh gia na diapistwsei ta epitopia problhmata. O k. Salagkoydhs eprepe na perasoyn pente hmeres gia na paei na diapistwsei ta problhmata ths DEH;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kat` arxas oi pente hmeres den prokyptoyn apo poyqena. Metrhste tis.

POYLIDOY: Apo th Deytera to brady mexri thn Paraskeyh, poy phge o k. Salagkoydhs. Poses hmeres einai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelete na epanalaboyme ta gegonota; Thn Trith to meshmeri, opws sas eipa s` ayth thn aiqoysa, me proswpikh prwtoboylia @kai gi` ayto ton synexarhn ek meroys ths kybernhshs- toy ploiarxoy, efyge ena ploio para thn apagoreysh apoploy, gia na metaferei to synergeio ths DEH, sthn perioxh ths Kefalonias opoy yphrxan oi blabes. Kai sth synexeia meteferqhsan mia seira hlektroparagwgwn zeygwn, gennhtriwn k.o.k., gia na ginei h apokatastash ths blabhs. Eseis moy lete, giati den phge thn prwth kiolas hmera, dhladh thn Trith h thn Tetarth, th deyterh hmera, thn trith hmera h opoia hmera en pash periptwsei mporoyse na metabei ekei me opoio meso, kapoios armodios ypoyrgos h yfypoyrgos. Kai sas apantw oti shmasia eixe na pane egkairws ta mhxanhmata, ekeina poy eprepe gia na apokatasthsoyn th blabh kai fysika kai oi texnikoi.

POYLIDOY: Ara, kakws phge o k. Boylgarakhs sth Qessalonikh, dioti eixe fygei kai o k. Foyrlas, htan kai oi pyrosbestikes kai o stratos, htan ws ek perissoy h paroysia toy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, kaqoloy kakws. Sas qymizw oti kapoioi synadelfoi sas, se orismena Mesa Enhmerwshs, diapistwnan oti htan ``kleista'' ta Temph ekeinh thn hmera, poy eixe perasei o ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs k. Boylgarakhs. O k. Boylgarakhs loipon, eixe thn eyqynh na metabei sto xwro kai na paei ws th Qessalonikh, epiblepontas kai ta stelexh ths Troxaias ta opoia yphretoyn kai oles tis alles yphresies, poy exei ypo thn epopteia toy, gia to an ginetai swsta h doyleia, sthn eqnikh odo.

PEPONHS: Na erqoyme kai ligo, sto diko sas qema, poy sas afora amesa. To nomosxedio gia th sygkentrwsh twn MME, pote ypologizete na oloklhrwqei kai na katateqei sth Boylh; Giati anakoinwsate ena xronodiagramma synanthsewn klp kai epishs, kai to allo nomosxedio gia ton Eparxiako Typo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Jekinw apo to deytero: To nomosxedio gia ton Eparxiako Typo qa syzhthqei ayrio sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph kai tis epomenes hmeres qa katateqei sth Boylh. Gia to nomosxedio gia th sygkentrwsh kai tis adeiodothseis, opws exw anaferei, qa synexisei h syzhthsh metajy twn forewn kai twn kommatwn ews to telos Febroyarioy. Qa xreiastei kapoio xroniko diasthma gia na katagrafoyn oles oi apoceis kai na ginei to nomosxedio kai en synexeia qa katateqei. Den eimai se qesh na sas anaferw akribh hmeromhnia, ayth th stigmh. Pantws h hmeromhnia poy exw dhlwsei, gia to telos toy dialogoy, dhladh telos Febroyarioy, den exei allajei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, milate gia adeiodothseis. Den pame twra se chfiakh platforma; Ti adeiodothseis qa einai aytes; Mono gia toys eji staqmoys poy lete, toys panellhnias embeleias; Pame se chfiako twra. Afoy exei ginei kai h desmeysh mas sthn E.E.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eyxaristw poy moy to qymizete. Qelw na sas pw oti htan mia ypoqesh jexasmenh epi polla xronia. Epi kybernhshs Neas Dhmokratias, exei proxwrhsei se tetoio baqmo, wste hdh exoyn arxisei kai ekpempoyn chfiaka, tria nea kanalia apo th dhmosia radiofwnia-thleorash. Wstoso, qelw na sas pw oti to nomosxedio ayto anaferetai kai sth sygkentrwsh twn Meswn, opoy se kaqe periptwsh h sygkentrwsh @eite exoyme chfiakh platforma eite oxi- einai ena zhtoymeno. Einai qemata poy apasxolhsan kai apasxoloyn akomh kai twra, polles alles xwres ths E.E.. O dialogos, opws eixa thn eykairia na anaferw sthn prwth synanthsh poy egine me toys foreis synexizetai akomh kai twra kai sthn Germania kai sthn Elbetia -poy den einai xwra ths E.E., alla einai xwra ths Eyrwphs- kai alloy. Se o,ti afora ta krithria adeiodothsewn, ofeiloyme na proxwrhsoyme sthn katagrafh ekeinwn twn krithriwn poy qa einai ta pio antikeimenika gia tis adeiodothseis radiofwnwn kai thleorasewn. Ofeiloyme na proxwrhsoyme bazontas tajh se ena entelws anarxo topio. H chfiakh thleorash kai radiofwnia, den einai ypoxrewsh kapoias xwras na arxisoyn shmera h ayrio. Opws jerete, h E.E. exei balei mia, katarxas, hmeromhnia sto telos toy 2012. Ayto poy shmainei oti ws to telos toy 2012, kalo qa htan h Politeia na frontisei na balei mia tajh sto topio, anti na to afhsei opws einai epi 17-20 xronia peripoy.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Sto nomosxedio ayto gia ton perifereiako Typo qa ypagontai kai oi efhmerides ths Attikhs; Ti kaqestws@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ginetai mia ryqmish kai gia ton topiko Typo.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Qa entaxqei sto nomosxedio toy perifereiakoy@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sto nomosxedio gia ton perifereiako Typo, ginetai ryqmish kai gia ton topiko Typo, epeidh den yphrxe antistoixh ryqmish gia ayton mexri twra.

PAPAGIANNHS: Xqes, to ``BHMA THS KYRIAKHS'', dhmosieyse mia ejairetika endiaferoysa istorika synenteyjh, toy tews monarxh. Shmera se filokybernhtikes efhmerides, yparxoyn sxolia kai reportaz sxetika me thn periergh xronikh sygkyria dhmosiopoihshs ayths ths synenteyjhs. H kybernhsh blepei kati periergo, pisw ap` ayth th dhmosiopoihsh h oxi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: An zhtate na krinw ton tropo me ton opoio ergazontai ta MME, sas exw pei polles fores, oti den qa to kanw. Kata synepeia, h genikh moy apanthsh isxyei kai gia to eidiko sas qema.

BLAXOS: Oxi, ennoei o synadelfos @kai ayto einai kai to erwthma moy- an eseis blepete kati periergo sth xronikh sygkyria sthn opoia epeleje o tews monarxhs na dwsei th synenteyjh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ektimw oti h dhmosiografia askeitai, efoson o dhmosiografos epidiwkei na exei kapoioy eidoys reportaz, kapoia synenteyjh kai apo kei kai pera epanalambanw oti isxyei ayto poy anefera prohgoymenws.

BLAXOS: Qelw na sas ypenqymisw oti eseis san Proistamenos moy sto politiko reportaz, moy eixate maqei na epimenw stis erwthseis moy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Xairomai poy akoloyqhsate ta didagmata k. Blaxo, an kai den einai poly emfanes apo meroys moy pantote.

Sas eyxaristw.


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