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Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-03-15

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 15 Martioy 2006

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos ayrio, stis 09.00, qa exei synergasia sto Megaro Majimoy me to Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Apostolo Stayroy, stis 09.30 me ton ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs k. Dhmhtrh Sioyfa, stis 12.00 me to dhmarxo Peiraia k. Xrhsto Agrapidh kai stis 12.30 me th Symboyleytikh Epitroph toy Idrymatos ``Niarxos''.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas ejhghsete toys logoys, giati h kybernhsh den ekane xrhsh ths proaireshs gia thn promhqeia twn 10 epipleon F-16 sthn apofash toy KYSEA, para to gegonos oti yparxei sxetikh eishghsh toy stratiwtikoy symboyloy; Qelei na steilei kapoio mhnyma h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Dyo einai oi logoi: O prwtos einai oti me thn apofasisqeisa agora toy sygkekrimenoy ariqmoy diathreitai h isorropia dynamewn. Den alloiwnetai h isorropia dynamewn, h opoia paramenei diaxronika idia sthn perioxh mas. Kai o deyteros exei na kanei me thn oikonomikh diastash toy qematos. Kriqhke pws qa prepei na ginei oikonomia se ayto to qema, efoson den allazei kaqoloy h isorropia dynamewn sto Aigaio. Prepei na sebomaste -kai ayto to kanei ayth h kybernhsh- ta xrhmata toy Ellhna forologoymenoy.

KAKALHS: Dhladh, den exei sto sxedio ths h kybernhsh na promhqeytei ta eyrwpaika Eurofighter;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qetete erwthsh gia ena qema, to opoio den exei syzhthqei, den exei apofasistei. Qelw na sas qymisw oti h apofash toy KYSEA anaferotan se ena sygkekrimeno ariqmo agoras aeroskafwn. O ariqmos aytos einai ta 60 aeroskafh. Kai malista milame gia th nea amyntikh domh mas ths xronikhs periodoy 2005-2020. Ston ariqmo 60, den ginetai kanenos eidoys allagh. Exei hdh apofasistei h agora twn 30 F-16. Yphrxe h proairesh, opws anaferate prohgoymenws, h opoia epeteyxqh stis diapragmateyseis. Dhladh ean qelame, mporoysame na kanoyme thn epilogh gia +10. Se kaqe periptwsh, o ariqmos 60, diathrei thn isorropia dynamewn se poly kalo pososto malista, kalytero pososto apo o,ti sto parelqon, to 7 pros 10 sto parelqon. Apofasisame gi` aytoys toys dyo logoys poy sas anefera na mhn xrhsimopoihsoyme to qema ths proaireshs. Epanalambanw gia na ginei pio katanohto: Prwton, diathreitai h isorropia dynamewn. Deyteron, ta oikonomika einai enas shmantikos paragontas. Ofeiloyme na sebastoyme ta xrhmata toy Ellhna forologoymenoy. Efoson den alloiwnetai ayth h isorropia dynamewn, den exoyme logo na proxwrhsoyme peraiterw, dhladh sto +10.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, dhladh den syzhtame kaqoloy me toys Eyrwpaioys, poy einai kai aytoi etairoi mas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, gia Eurofighter;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw: H apofash toy KYSEA afora agora 60 aeroskafwn. Exei hdh apofasistei h agora twn 30. Menei h apofash gia thn agora twn epipleon 30, ta opoia, opws exoyme pei, qa einai aeroskafh tetarths genias. Den allazei tipota se ayth thn apofash gia synolikh agora 60 aeroskafwn, ta opoia diathroyn thn isorropia dynamewn sto Aigaio. Eseis rwtate gia ton typo toy aeroskafoys. Gia ton typo toy aeroskafoys ayto poy gnwrizete einai oti prohgoymeno KYSEA eixe apofasisei thn agora 30 F-16: Epomeno KYSEA, ocepote ayto ginei, qa apofasisei thn agora twn ypoloipwn 30 aeroskafwn tetarths genias. To poia qa einai ayta, qa apofasistei se epomeno KYSEA. Ara, den mpainoyme twra se aporrich h oxi kapoioy typoy h se epilogh typoy. Leme oti 30 + 30 = 60, paramenei ws ariqmos. To 30 + 10, dhladh ta 10 poy mporoysame na paroyme epipleon, den ta agorazoyme gia to logo poy sas anefera.

PALAIOLOGOS: O Prwqypoyrgos sto thleoptiko mhnyma toy emfanisthke aisiodojos meta to prasino fws poy phre apo to EKOFIN gia to staqeropoihtiko programma. Wstoso, afhse na ennohqei kapoia stigmh oti ayth h aisiodojia qa apotypwqei kai ston epomeno proypologismo. Yparxei kati to sygkekrimeno; Dhladh, qa problefqoyn ayjhseis gia ton epomeno xrono; Qa doqoyn paroxes; Kati allo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mallon den exete diabasei th dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Thn exw diabasei polles fores.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelete na moy diabasete to sygkekrimeno apospasma;

PALAIOLOGOS: To exw edw mprosta moy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Diabaste to parakalw, giati o Prwqypoyrgos me safhneia anaferei oti sto biblio toy epomenoy proypologismoy -ayth einai h xarakthristikh frash toy- den qa apotypwnontai aplws ariqmoi, alla qa einai apotelesmata twn kopwn twn Ellhnwn politwn. Ti ennoei me ayto o Prwqypoyrgos; Einai apolytws safes: Meta apo thn akoloyqoymenh politikh ths kybernhshs, thn opoia oi Ellhnes apodexthkan, qa exoyme epityxei to stoxo na meiwsoyme to elleimma katw apo to 3%. Sth synexeia, o Prwqypoyrgos milhse gia ena kalytero ayrio, to opoio xtizetai me staqerothta, me sobarothta, me ypeyqynothta kai panw apo ola me strathgikh, me sygkekrimenes politikes.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ayto to kalytero ayrio qa einai mono gia ta dhmosionomika megeqh h qa afora kai toys anqrwpoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Akribws ayto einai to shmeio sto opoio ean entryfhsei kaneis -gi` ayto rwthsa to synadelfo sas ean to exei diabasei- qa bgalei ta asfalh symperasmata toy. Ti qelw na pw me toyto: To eipe o Prwqypoyrgos sth dhlwsh toy -to exei pei kai se alles dhlwseis toy, se omilies kai se synenteyjeis toy- oti den einai asxeth h poreia twn oikonomikwn kaqe Ellhnidas kai Ellhna oikogeneiarxh me thn poreia twn dhmosiwn oikonomikwn. Ekeino poy emeis klhqhkame na kanoyme einai na ``noikokyrecoyme'' ta dhmosia oikonomika. Na meiwsoyme ta elleimmata apo to yperogko ycos toy 6,6% thn teleytaia xronia to 2004, se pososto katw toy 3%, opws problepetai allwste se symfwnia poy exoyn kanei metajy toys oles oi eyrwpaikes xwres, edw kai polla xronia. H meiwsh twn elleimmatwn, h kalytereysh, to ``noikokyrema'' twn dhmosiwn oikonomikwn, dhmioyrgei mia oikonomia pio antagwnistikh. Mia oikonomia ejwstrefh. Otan h oikonomia mas ginetai pio antagwnistikh kai ejwstrefhs wfeloyntai, peran bebaiws twn dhmosiwn oikonomikwn, oloi ekeinoi poy exoyn na wfelhqoyn apo thn oikonomia mias xwras, eite einai epixeirhseis, eite einai ergazomenoi se epixeirhseis, eite einai idiwtes poy exoyn dikes toys mikres, mesaies h megales emporikes drasthriothtes. Ara, loipon, einai san na leme oti diorqwnoyme, staqeropoioyme th bash ths oikonomias, etsi wste panw se aythn, se gera qemelia, na xtistoyn kalyteres prooptikes gia to ayrio olwn twn politwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Na ginw tote pio sygkekrimenos. Ayto shmainei oti me to telos toy 2006 qa lhjei kai h periodos, as to poyme, litothtas -qa to pw egw- h toylaxiston symmazematos twn dhmosiwn oikonomikwn, opws to leei h kybernhsh kai oti apo ekei kai pera endexomenws na yparjoyn kai kapoioy eidoys paroxes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ton oro ton xrhsimopoieite eseis. H kybernhsh den xrhsimopoihse gia logoys epikoinwniakwn entypwsewn ton oro ``hpia prosarmogh'', dioti einai pragmatika hpia h prosarmogh, etsi opws oristhke sthn politikh mas strathgikh. Ayth h prosarmogh apodidei apotelesmata. Apefere, hdh, shmantika apotelesmata to 2005 kai qa apoferei ta shmantika ths apotelesmata ews to telos toy 2006. Apo th stigmh poy exoyme epityxei se ayto to basiko stoxo, antilambaneste oti siga-siga ola ta megeqh diaforopoioyntai.

KAKALHS: Ekeino poy den eipe o Prwqypoyrgos sto xqesino mhnyma toy einai oti h meiwsh toy elleimmatos egine monodiastata se baros twn laikwn strwmatwn, afoy htan oi monoi poy plhrwsan gia na meiwqei to elleimma. Me dedomeno oti ta kerdh twn epixeirhsewn to idio diasthma ayjhqhkan almatwdws kai to idio yposxetai oti qa einai kai ta epomena xronia. Ayto einai to xeirotero. Giati, dhladh, qa prepei na qriambologei kai apo panw o Prwqypoyrgos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai mia dikh sas proseggish. Den symfwnw oyte egw, oyte aytoi poy exoyn asxolhqei me ta dhmosia oikonomika, eite einai sthn kybernhsh, eite einai oikonomikoi paragontes, eite parathrhtes. Ergazeste oloi se epixeirhseis. As doyme to aplo paradeigma enos dhmosiografoy poy einai shmera se ayth thn aiqoysa. Ergazetai se mia epixeirhsh. Ean h epixeirhsh ``noikokyrecei'' ta oikonomika ths, einai bebaio oti ston epomeno kai meqepomeno xrono, afoy exei ``noikokyrecei'' ta oikonomika ths, qa mporesei na apodwsei apo ta kerdh ths perissotera ston ergazomeno dhmosiografo, ston ergazomeno texniko, ston odhgo poy metaferei ta fylla twn efhmeridwn. Ayto to aplo paradeigma, anagomeno sto synolo ths leitoyrgias ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, dinei mia apanthsh gia to ti mellei genesqai, efoson exei oikodomhqei mia bash staqerh kai oxi saqrh. Efoson den yparxoyn pia ``skeletoi sto ntoylapi'' apo to parelqon, opws eyfyws eipwqhke sto xqesino EKOFIN, toys opoioys brhkame otan analabame th diakybernhsh.

KAKALHS: Gnwrizete, omws, poly kala oti ola ayta ta xronia oi epixeirhseis exoyn synexomena kerdh, exoyn beltiwsei tis qeseis toys, alla den exei symbei to idio me toys ergazomenoys, oi opoioi toylaxiston pagwmenoi einai oi misqoi toys kai oi apodoxes toys, ean den proxwroyn se meiwsh toy pragmatikoy eisodhmatos toys. Ara, den isxyei ayto poy lete, oyte se geniko, oyte se meriko epipedo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai diafora ektimhshs. H pragmatikothta, h zwh, h oikonomia sthn kaqhmerinothta, me apla logia metaferomenh edw sthn aiqoysa, leei oti otan enas epixeirhmatias mikros, mesaios h megalos -giati exoyme sthn Ellada epixeirhmaties kai stoys treis kladoys kai kyriws exoyme sto mikromesaio tomea- otan exei antapejelqei kalytera stis anagkes ths epixeirhshs toy, otan ta oikonomika toy beltiwqoyn tote qa beltiwqei kai h proswpikh toy oikonomikh katastash, kaqws kai h proswpikh oikonomikh katastash twn ligwn h pollwn ergazomenwn poy apasxoloyntai sthn epixeirhsh toy.

PALAIOLOGOS: An meta tis dhlwseis toy k. Boylgarakh, tis off the record kai me ton tropo poy apodoqhkan, yphrje kapoioy eidoys epikoinwnia eite dikh sas eite toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton ypoyrgo Politismoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To qema ejantlhqhke me th dhlwsh poy ekane xqes o k. Antwnaros. Den exw na pw tipote perissotero.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ti mhnyma lambanei h kybernhsh apo tis klimakoymenes apergiakes kinhtopoihseis me aformh to gegonos oti shmera yparxei mia 24wrh apergia se ejelijh ths GSEE.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh brisketai mesa sthn koinwnia, zei mazi me thn koinwnia. Ta melh kai ta stelexh ths kybernhshs, se opoion forea dioikhshs kai an briskontai, eite ypoyrgoi eite yfypoyrgoi, eite se alles epixeirhseis gnwrizoyn ta problhmata. Kai ayth einai h diafora mas: Gnwrizoyme ta problhmata ths kaqhmerinothtas toy Ellhna polith. Den ta agnooyme, den ta paragnwrizoyme. Den kanoyme pws den yparxoyn. Den ta kryboyme katw apo to xali, opws ekanan prohgoymenes kybernhseis kai dh s` ayto dieprece h kybernhsh toy PASOK. Gnwrizontas ayta ta problhmata, exoyme pei, koitwntas sta matia ton Ellhna polith, ton tropo me ton opoio ta antimetwpizoyme. Hdh mesa se ligotero apo dyo xronia, antimetwpizoyme shmantika problhmata ths oikonomias opws ayta poy eixame thn eykairia na anaferqoyme stis prohgoymenes erwthseis sas. Ayto poy leme ston Ellhna polith kai shmera, einai oti h prospaqeia ayth plhsiazei se o,ti afora th meiwsh twn elleimmatwn sto telos ths. Sto telos toy 2006,h prospaqeia ayth qa exei apodwsei toys karpoys, toys opoioys polloi, opws qymaste, den anemenan. Polloi ws Kassandres kathgorwntas thn kybernhsh elegan oti den qa epiteyxqoyn oi stoxoi mas, oi opoioi omws epitygxanontai. Ta pragmata beltiwnontai. Oi qysies twn Ellhnwn politwn einai qysies poy den pane sto bronto, den pane xamenes. Ayto einai poy leme emeis ws kybernhsh apenanti stoys polites, toys ergazomenoys eite metexoyn eite oxi se opoiadhpote kinhtopoihsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: To PASOK fernei mia protash gia katarghsh toy orkoy kai olwn toy qrhskeytikoy periexomenoy antikeimenwn apo tis dhmosies yphresies. H kybernhsh ti leei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora thn kybernhsh den tiqetai qema tetoiwn allagwn, tetoiwn diaforopoihsewn. Alla kai to PASOK qa prepei na jekaqarisei. Exei katateqei ayth h protash; Exei topoqethqei epishmws to PASOK; Giati diabazw kai akoyw oti yparxoyn dixognwmies, dixostasies.

KAKALHS: Otan to EKOFIN milaei gia efarmogh twn hdh symfwnhmenwn asfalistikwn metarryqmisewn, mporeite na mas dieykrinisete ti ennoei; Dhladh toys asfalistikoys nomoys poy efarmozontai hdh twra h tis metarryqmiseis poy exei symfwnhsei h kybernhsh me to EKOFIN kai qa efarmosei sto mellon;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exei symfwnhsei tipote sto paraskhnio. Den exei ginei tipote en kryptw. H kybernhsh exei pei kai se anwtato epipedo malista, toy Prwqypoyrgoy, toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn kai emoy s` ayth thn aiqoysa, einai oti den prokeitai na ginei tipote poy qa aifnidiasei, oti jekiname enan dialogo qelontas na deijoyme oti etsi prepei na ginontai oi opoies allages. Mesa apo th diadikasia dialogoy, gia na mporesoyme na prolaboyme ta problhmata, anti na erqoyme sth synexeia na ta qerapeysoyme. Klhqhkame na qerapeysoyme polla apo ta problhmata poy paralabame. Ean oi prohgoymenes kybernhseis eixan deijei antistoixo qarros me to na poyn ston Ellhna polith thn alhqeia, den qa eixame tosa problhmata sthn oikonomia oso ayta poy brhkame to 2004 me th gnwsth se oloys apografh kai ta apotelesmata ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei kapoio qema me ton k. Boyrloymh, o opoios jafnika ayjhse kata 35% kapoia prim twn anwterwn kai anwtatwn ypallhlwn toy OTE, th stigmh poy paroysiazei oti OTE exei elleimma. Pws ayjhse aytos kata 35% ayta ta epidomata;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, o OTE einai anwnymh etaireia, eishgmenh malista sto ellhniko Xrhmatisthrio alla kai se jena. Exei epixeirhmatikes drasthriothtes. Yparxei mia megalh prospaqeia apo thn pleyra ths shmerinhs dioikhshs toy OTE kai thn exete dei ayth thn prospaqeia wste na bohqhqei o organismos, na lyqoyn polla oikonomika problhmata kai na ginei antagwnistikos, na mh meinei pisw. Ayth h prospaqeia einai se ejelijh. Ayto exw na sxoliasw se sxesh me otidhpote ginetai ston OTE.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me ta prim dhladh ginetai pio antagwnistikos o OTE;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo th mia pleyra yparxei ajiwsh na ektimhqei kai apo to dhmosio tomea -eite apo epixeirhseis toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea eite apo anwnymes etaireies poy exoyn sxesh me ton eyrytero dhmosio tomea- h doyleia twn anqrwpwn poy pragmatika ponane to xwro poy doyleyoyn, prosferoyn kai etsi h epixeirhsh toys kerdizei. Kerdizei epishs kai to ellhniko dhmosio kai to eyrytero ellhniko dhmosio, eyrytera h oikonomia mas. Apo thn allh pleyra yparxei mia proseggish apajiwshs otan ektimatai ayth h doyleia. Ean eseis sthn efhmerida sas ergazeste perissotero kai kalytera apo alloys, to na sas dwsei o idiokthths ths efhmeridas, o ekdoths, o dieyqynths ena prim, mallon qa sas kanei na ergasteite perissotero kai kalytera. Qa einai mia epibrabeysh, giati ergasthkate kala. Kai fantazomai oti kai sthn eygenh amilla poy anaptyssetai se mia epixeirhsh kai alloi synadelfoi sas qa skefqoyn me ton idio tropo. Einai meqodoi aples, oi opoies isxyoyn pagkosmiws. Monon edw sthn Ellada otan ginontai, emfanizontai ws na einai oyranokatebates h parajenes h perierges h na kryboyn pisw toys kapoies alles skeceis h skopimothtes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Elleimmatikes etaireies.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eimai bebaios oti den apokryptoyn kamia skopimothta pisw toys. Milame gia mia etaireia, gia thn opoia sas qymizw, oti prin apo ligoys mhnes dexqhka se ayth thn aiqoysa para polles erwthseis epi seira hmerwn, giati proxwraei se kinhseis opws einai h eqeloysia ejodos kai se alles gia to noikokyrema ths. Kati prepei na ginei loipon. Den mporei apo th mia na epikrinoyme mia dioikhsh giati proxwrhse se diadikasia noikokyrematos me eqeloysia ejodo kai me alloys tropoys kai apo thn allh na mh qeloyme @den lew oti qelete eseis, h kapoios synadelfos sas gia na mhn parejhghqw- na anaptyxqei me toys kanones poy isxyoyn sthn idiwtikh agora, ston idiwtikooikonomiko tomea.

KAKALHS: Oi aploi ergazomenoi poy bgazoyn thn paragwgikothta se oles tis epixeirhseis, den prepei na symmetexoyn sta mponoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den mphka sthn oysia toy qematos gia to poioi exoyn parei to epidoma, poioi den exoyn parei h poioi qa paroyn. Einai mia meqodos h opoia isxyei se oles tis sobares epixeirhseis. Se oles tis epixeirhseis oi opoies qeloyn na einai pragmatika antagwnistikes, se mia sklhra antagwnistikh oikonomia.

MANH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o ypoyrgos Oikonomias den dieceyse dhmosieymata, symfwna me ta opoia ekdhlwnetai endiaferon apo idiwtika kefalaia toy ejwterikoy gia thn agora toy OTE. Se synenteyjh toy malista@

ROYSOPOYLOS: O ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn qa dwsei synenteyjh Typoy, shmera stis 14:30, opote mporeite na ton rwthsete gi ayto to qema.

MANH: O ypoyrgos Oikonomias apanthse ep` aytoy. Qelw na rwthsw ean ayto einai kybernhtikh epilogh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean exei apanthsei o ypoyrgos, isxyei h apanthsh toy. Den exw na prosqesw tipota perissotero.

KAKALHS: Pws sxoliazete mia dhlwsh toy prwhn Proedroy toy Areioy Pagoy k. Kokkinoy, poy eipe oti einai akatanohto oti epemeinan na parameinei h ypoqesh twn ypoklopwn se enan apeiro prwtodikh anakrith. Ayth h dhlwsh toy prwhn dikastikoy mhpws enexei kai kapoies aixmes gia toylaxiston sobarh paraleich ek meroys ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete sxoliazw pantote me feidw dhlwseis energwn stelexwn ths politikhs skhnhs toy topoy. Poso mallon anqrwpwn oi opoioi den metexoyn kapoioy politikoy sxhmatos, wste na asxolhqei o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos kai na sxoliasei to otidhpote exoyn pei.

KAKALHS: Agnoeiste th dhlwsh kai deite to gegonos ayto kaq` eayto: Oti h ypoqesh anateqhke apo thn arxh se apeiro prwtodikh anakrith.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai mono to gegonos oti prohghqhke erwthsh me aformh th dhlwsh kai akoloyqei mia deyterh erwthsh poy moy zhta na agnohsw th dhlwsh, antilambaneste, oti ean apantoysa agnowntas thn, syneirmika qa odhgeito h apanthsh moy sth sxesh, sthn taytish, sthn taytopoihsh me tis dhlwseis toy opoioydhpote. Den exw na pw tipota perissotero.

KAKALHS: To gegonos, omws, paramenei kai prokalei erwthmatika.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw epanaferw to erwthma peri Boylgarakh kai menw sto periexomeno twn dhlwsewn h twn feromenwn ws dhlwsewn Boylgarakh, sxetika me ta epikoinwniaka paixnidia toy k. Diwth gia thn ypoqesh Tsalikidh kai thn piqanh syndesh ths me thn ypoqesh twn ypoklopwn. Ep` aytoy, epi toy periexomenoy ths dhlwshs toy k. Boylgarakh, yparxei kati; Den qewreite oti htan epilhcimh toylaxiston h prospaqeia na prokatalabei to opoio apotelesma twn ereynwn sth feromenh aytoktonia Tsalikidh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei h prohgoymenh apanthsh, h opoia parepempe se xqesinh apanthsh toy Anaplhrwth Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy.

Sas eyxaristw.


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