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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 5 Dekembrioy 2006

Ariqmos Deltioy: 44649602

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 5 Dekembrioy 2006

Xairete.

" O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs, ayrio stis 9 to prwi, qa synanthqei sto Megaro Majimoy me ton Anaplhrwth Prwqypoyrgo ths Rwsikhs Omospondias kai Ypoyrgo Amynas k. Sergkei Ibanof.

" Prin apo ligh wra oloklhrwqhke h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. Sth shmerinh synedriash, o Ypoyrgos Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn k. Mixalhs Liaphs eishghqhke to neo Kwdika Odikhs Kykloforias. Qa sas dwsw orismena stoixeia, giati hdh o Ypoyrgos Metaforwn exei kanei dhlwseis. Gia tis leptomereies toy neoy KOK qa milhsei stoys syntaktes poy kalyptoyn to reportaz toy Ypoyrgeioy Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn. O KOK synista oxi aplws ena nomiko keimeno, alla kanona zwhs. H thrhsh twn diatajewn toy den epiballetai mono gia logoys nomoteleias, alla epi ths oysias gia thn prostasia ths idias ths anqrwpinhs zwhs. Me bash thn arxh ayth - kai exontas ypoch oti h xwra mas brisketai se mia apo tis xeiroteres qeseis sthn Eyrwph anaforika me to epipedo odikhs asfaleias - to Ypoyrgeio Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn jekinhse tis diadikasies gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Kwdika. Na sas qymisw de oti h prohgoymenh anaqewrhsh toy Kwdika eixe ginei to 1999.

Sthn Epitroph Anaqewrhshs symmeteixan ekproswpoi ths Astynomias, toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs, ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs, toy syllogoy Ellhnwn Sygkoinwniologwn, nomikoi kai armodioi yphresiakoi paragontes toy Ypoyrgeioy Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn. Oi protaseis poy diamorfwqhkan teqhkan se dhmosia diaboyleysh me oloys toys emplekomenoys foreis, sto plaisio enos oysiastikoy dialogoy me omospondies epaggelmatiwn forthgwn, lewforeiwn, taji, sygkoinwniologoys, ekpaideytes ypochfiwn odhgwn kai alloys. Kentrikh logikh toy nomosxedioy einai h qespish enos sygxronoy plaisioy antimetwpishs twn parabasewn, kyriws ekeinwn poy qetoyn se kindyno thn anqrwpinh zwh. Stoxos einai o anaqewrhmenos Kwdikas Odikhs Kykloforias na drasei prolhptika gia thn antimetwpish genikotera toy problhmatos ths odikhs asfaleias kai kykloforias. Akoloyqei mia seira apo ryqmiseis, opws h apopoinikopoihsh ths pleiochfias twn ptaismatikwn parabasewn, kaqws kai kapoiwn plhmmelhmatikwn, h apotelesmatikh kai egkairh eisprajh twn prostimwn, h katarghsh dynatothtas epistrofhs twn pinakidwn kykloforias poy afaireqhkan, ean kataballetai  opws symbainei shmera  to triplasio toy posoy poy problepetai gia to prostimo, anabaqmish toy systhmatos elegxoy symperiforas odhgwn, gnwsto sth nea ellhnikh ws point system. Pros enhmerwsh toy koinoy gia tis allages toy KOK, ton ejorqologismo twn prostimwn kai gia oles tis leptomereies qa milhsei o k. Liaphs. Exei para polla shmeia ta opoia einai endiaferonta. Qa hqela oloi na bohqhsoyme wste na enhmerwqoyn oso to dynaton kalytera oi polites gia tis nees ryqmiseis toy Kwdika Odikhs Kykloforias, afoy, opws eipa kai sthn arxh, pera apo ena nomiko keimeno, einai kanonas zwhs.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas:

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxei programmatismenh synanthsh toy Ypoyrgoy Emporikhs Naytilias k. Manolh Kefalogiannh me ton Prwqypoyrgo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan yparxoyn synanthseis me ton Prwqypoyrgo tis anakoinwnw, opws gnwrizete, mia mera nwritera h to poly  poly to idio prwino.

SIDERHS: Kataferate pantws na kanete ontws ton Peiraia limani ths agwnias. Qa ginei kati apo edw kai twra; To pragma den paei parapera.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelete na kanete pio sygkekrimeno to erwthma sas;

SIDERHS: Nai, rwtw ean qa labei kapoia prwtoboylia o Ypoyrgos na lyqei to problhma, toylaxiston enoch twn eortwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Poio problhma apo ola;

SIDERHS: Ths kaqysterhshs twn konteiners poy paramenoyn kai ta magazia den exoyn ...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na sas pw oti o Ypoyrgos exei analabei prwtoboylies kai syzhta, apo thn arxh poy jekinhse ayth h prospaqeia newn ryqmisewn sto limani, me oloys toys emplekomenoys foreis. Einai anoiktos sto dialogo ayto, einai gnwsto. H prospaqeia mas einai na beltiwsoyme tis apodoseis toy limanioy toy Peiraia, opws kai toy limanioy ths Qessalonikhs. Apodoseis poy mporei na ftasoyn se pollaplasia epipeda apo ta shmerina, kaqoson aytes einai oi anagkes enos sygxronoy eyrwpaikoy kratoys. Na akoloyqhsoyme, dhladh, oles tis ypoloipes eyrwpaikes xwres poy exoyn ayjhsei tis apodoseis twn limaniwn toys. Sto plaisio ayths ths politikhs, gnwrizete poly kala, oti den qigontai ta dikaiwmata twn hdh ergazomenwn. Se o,ti afora tis elleiceis sthn agora stis opoies anaferqhkate, qa hqela na pw oti exei kanei analytikes dhlwseis o k. Antwnaros xqes otan rwthqhke gia to qema ayto. Mia parathrhsh mono, giati merikes fores dhmioyrgoyntai entypwseis ekei poy den yparxoyn. Qa sas dwsw na paradeigma: Zhthsa shmera to prwi apo to Ypoyrgeio Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs kai Trofimwn, na me enhmerwsoyn gia reportaz to opoio problhqhke xqes kai miloyse gia elleich sthn agora zaxarhs. Qa sas diabasw analytika thn apanthsh gia na exete mia eikona, wste oloi mas na eimaste pio epifylaktikoi otan akoyme diafores fhmes: H Ellhnikh Biomhxania Zaxarhs exei apoqemata apo persi 30.000 tonoys zaxarh. H paragwgh ths esodeias 2006 problepetai na anelqei stoys 170.000 tonoys, enw anamenetai na eisaxqoyn apo th Serbia, kyriws se olh th diarkeia toy 2007, 90.000 tonoi zaxarhs. Kata synepeia, mexri ton Septembrio toy 2007, poy qa epanaleitoyrghsoyn ta ergostasia ths Ellhnikhs Biomhxanias Zaxarhs, qa yparxei eparkeia toy proiontos sthn ellhnikh agora kai den tiqetai qema eisagwghs mesw twn limaniwn. H adeia apoqhkh poy fanhke xqes se kapoio thleoptiko staqmo, anhkei sthn Enwsh Agrotikwn Synetairismwn Xaniwn, h opoia synergazetai me thn Ellhnikh Biomhxania Zaxarhs kai diakinei ta proionta ths sto nomo. Proekyce problhma dioti h Enwsh Agrotikwn Synetairismwn Xaniwn exei teqei logw oikonomikwn problhmatwn se eidikh ekkaqarish, opote eprepe na ekkenwqei h apoqhkh. To problhma lyqhke me qygatrikh eparkeia ths Enwshs Agrotikwn Synetairismwn Xaniwn, h opoia exei erqei se synennohsh me thn Ellhnikh Biomhxania Zaxarhs kai entos twn hmerwn qa promhqeytei zaxarh apo tis apoqhkes ths Ellhnikhs Biomhxanias sto Hrakleio, opoy yparxoyn apoqemata.

SIDERHS: Dia ths eis atopon apagwghs mas phgate.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den biazomai. Sas diabebaiw oti mporw na meinw edw osh wra qelete. Arkei na me afhnete na oloklhrwnw tis apanthseis moy. Sas edwsa ena mikro paradeigma giati prepei na eimaste arketa epifylaktikoi se orismenes fhmes oi opoies diakinoyntai sthn agora.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, asxeta me to an qa ftiajoyme koyrampiedes kai melomakarona afoy yparxei toso megalo apoqema zaxarhs, den yparxei gia thn kybernhsh sas ena problhma me ton Ypoyrgo Emporikhs Naytilias; Afoy, to kalokairi dhmioyrghqhkan sobara problhmata sto limani, gegonos poy deixnei oti den eixe asxolhqei me ta qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy toy kai twra se mia epishs krisimh periodo, opws einai ta Xristoygenna kai me ta emporeymata kai me mia seira alla pragmata, pali dhmioyrgeitai problhma.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den symfwnw me thn krish sas. Einai proswpikh sas apoch thn opoia den ensternizomai.

MANH: Akoyga prin apo ligo ton k. Kefalogiannh poy dhlwne oti ``pagwnei'' th diadikasia gia dyo mhnes gia na jekinhsei dialogo me toys limenergates. Ayto to profanes den mporoyse na to kanei prin;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete poly kala - h ean den gnwrizete na sas to pw egw - oti edw kai polles hmeres, o k. Kefalogiannhs exei proteinei stoys limenergates na ``pagwsei'' th diadikasia h opoia jekinhse apo to D.S. toy OLP. Kai malista, an qymamai kala, toys eixe dwsei kai ena periqwrio dyo  triwn mhnwn. Epishs, isws gnwrizete poly kala - pantws sigoyra to gnwrizoyn oi synadelfoi sas poy kalyptoyn to peiraiko reportaz - oti h apanthsh twn limenergatwn htan ``na parete pisw tis apofaseis oxi na tis ``pagwsete''''. Qa qymisw oti h kybernhsh sto programma ths exei labei sygkekrimenes desmeyseis enanti toy ellhnikoy laoy. Qelw na sas pw oti h prospaqeia h opoia ginetai - kai qa synexistei kai qa ginei - einai na bohqhqei h eqnikh oikonomia kai na anaptyjei, mesa apo to limani toy Peiraia, tis dynatothtes poy mporei na anaptyjei ena monterno limani mias monternas eyrwpaikhs xwras.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ta eyrwtoyrkika trexoyn. O gallo-germanikos ajonas proteinei mia katalhktikh hmeromhnia pros thn Toyrkia gia anoigma limaniwn kai aerodromiwn. Prospaqoyn malista na emplejoyn lysh toy Kypriakoy me thn entajiakh poreia ths Toyrkias. Poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs panw se ayta ta zhthmata;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora thn eyrwtoyrkikh proseggish, exoyn ginei dhlwseis esxatws apo thn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn kai molis xqes apo ton Prwqypoyrgo. Den exw na prosqesw tipota perissotero apo ta osa eipe o Prwqypoyrgos kai h Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn.

KAKALHS: Oson afora th rhtra epanejetashs, h kybernhsh den exei jekaqarisei th stash ths, kat' arxhn oson afora th syndesh h opoia epixeireitai na ginei me th lysh toy Kypriakoy prwton. Kai deyteron, poio einai to xroniko orio poy bazei h kybernhsh; Qa symfwnei me to 18mhno, h me kati allo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se oti afora to prwto skelos. Einai safhs h qesh mas gia thn lysh toy Kypriakoy. To deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas exei na kanei me dhlwsh thn opoia ekane hdh h Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Mpakogiannh. Qelw na pw oti exei hdh apanthqei ayto to qema.

KAKALHS: Eipe h k. Mpakogiannh oti exei megalh shmasia h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh na meinei enwmenh. To erwthma einai, se poia bash qa meinei enwmenh; Sth bash , ths eishghshs ths KOMISION poy zhtaei oysiastika th mh epibolh kyrwsewn kai th mh yparjh xronodiagrammatos h sth bash twn protasewn toy gallo-germanikoy ajona;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, h Epitroph koinopoihse thn protash systasewn gia to pws h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh qa antimetwpisei th mh efarmogh apo thn Toyrkia twn ypoxrewsewn poy exei analabei. Tis telikes apofaseis qa laboyn ta krath-melh sth Synodo twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn h isws kai sth Synodo Koryfhs. Den nomizw oti exei na prosqesei kaneis kati perissotero ap` ayto.

SPYRAKH: Dedomenoy oti oi ergazomenoi sta limania exoyn hdh aporricei thn protash toy armodioy ypoyrgoy gia pagwma twn diadikasiwn, epi dimhno h trimhno, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsei o dialogos. H kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na proxwrhsei sth diadikasia ekxwrhshs ths fortoekfortwshs sta limania se idiwtikes etaireies;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws sas eipa kai prohgoymenws, h kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na proxwrhsei sth dhmioyrgia enos limanioy, toy Peiraia, to opoio qa einai eyrwpaikwn prodiagrafwn kai antagwnistiko se sxesh me alla limania. Qa hqela na gnwrizete oti den qigetai kanena apo ta dikaiwmata twn 300 peripoy ergazomenwn sta limania. Ayto einai safes. Exei eipwqei apo ton Ypoyrgo Emporikhs Naytilias k. Kefalogiannh kai stoys idioys kai dhmosiws. Ekeino to opoio ayth th stigmh tiqetai ws diakybeyma sto politiko proskhnio, einai ean qeloyme na akoloyqhsei kai h xwra mas antagwnistikh logikh sthn oikonomia ths se o,ti afora ta limania toy Peiraia kai ths Qessalonikhs.

GKOYTZANHS: Giati o Prwqypoyrgos den dexetai ton Ypoyrgo Emporikhs Naytilias se ranteboy sto Megaro Majimoy; Kai deyteron, ayth h ypoqesh exei ena kostos. Nomizw oti shmera enhmerwqhkame oti mia apo tis etaireies poy eixe symbash me to limani, elyse ayth th symbash. Mexri pote qa synexistei ayto, exete metrhsei ayto to oikonomiko kostos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw thn enhmerwsh poy exete. Ekeino poy gnwrizw einai oti den qigetai kanenos eidoys symbash. H teleytaia ypegrafh to 2002, epi kybernhsews PASOK, me etaireia kai ryqmish gia dekaeth diarkeia ayth ths symbashs, dhladh ews to 2012. Den gnwrizw na eqigh kapoioy eidoys symbash me kapoia etaireia kai den einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs na qigei opoiadhpote symbash. To ellhniko dhmosio ofeilei na threi tis ypoxrewseis kai tis desmeyseis toy. Den allazei tipote se ayto. Ekeino to opoio ginetai prospaqeia na allajei einai na enisxyqei, opws eipa kai prohgoymenws, h megalyterh dynatothta toy limanioy na apodwsei perissotero. Se o,ti afora thn prwth parathrhsh sas, einai proswpikh sas krish. Se kamia periptwsh den exei na kanei me thn pragmatikothta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Kefalogiannhs, apolambanei ths empistosynhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws.

PALAIOLOGOS: Me dedomeno oti yparxoyn oi antidraseis twn ergazomenwn sto limani kai apo thn allh h antidrash xqes, toy neoy ekproswpoy Typoy toy PASOK k. Eyqymioy, o opoios kanei logo gia adiafaneis diadikasies, anarwtiemai pws einai dynato na synexistei o dialogos gia ton opoio milhsate prohgoymenws, otan yparxoyn antidraseis pleon eyryteres koinwnikes, pera apo to sygkekrimeno syndikato toy limanioy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ennoeite ws eyryteres koinwnikes antidraseis th dhlwsh toy ekproswpoy toy PASOK;

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, kai ths antipoliteyshs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na sxoliasw tipote perissotero. Ekana mia dhlwsh xqes to brady, me aformh kapoies dhlwseis poy ekane o ekproswpos Typoy toy PASOK. Ekeino to opoio qa shmeiwsw omws, einai oti exoyme na kanoyme me mia apofash toy Dioikhtikoy Symboylioy toy Organismoy Limenos Peiraiws, poy einai ena nomima eklegmeno, topoqethmeno, diorismeno Dioikhtiko Symboylio. Kai exoyme na kanoyme me mia mallon laqos ekfrash apo thn pleyra toy ekproswpoy Typoy toy PASOK, o opoios milhse gia prokhryjeis ekxwrhshs. Den exw dei na yparxei kamia prokhryjh ayth th stigmh. Den exei ginei oyte kan prosklhsh endiaferontos apo thn pleyra toy OLP. Gia na mh dhmioyrgoyntai entypwseis apo fraseis oi opoies den exoyn sxesh me thn pragmatikothta, qelw na pw, oti se epipedo pragmatikwn gegonotwn yparxei mia apofash toy D.S. toy OLP kai tipote perissotero.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exete na kanete kapoio sxolio sxetika me th diadikasia ekpoihshs twn proswpikwn antikeimenwn poy ginetai apo thn pleyra ths tews basilikhs oikogeneias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

SPYRAKH: Xqes, hdh, apokalyptetai mesw reportaz oti prosferontai kai ginontai agores me diaforetikes times twn idiwn akribws iatrikwn proiontwn kai ergaleiwn apo ta nosokomeia ths xwras. Ayto, de synebaine mono sto parelqon kata koron, symbainei mallon kai thn periodo poy einai h Nea Dhmokratia sth diakybernhsh toy topoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia to sygkekrimeno qema, qa parakaloysa na apeyqynqeite sto armodio ypoyrgeio. Wstoso, qa kanw mia epishmansh epi ths arxhs. Gnwrizete poly kala oti ayth h kybernhsh, apo thn prwth stigmh poy anelabe ta kaqhkonta ths kai me ton prohgoymeno Ypoyrgo Ygeias, alla kai me to nyn ypoyrgo, dhlwse thn proqesh ths -kai kineitai pros ayth thn kateyqynsh- na dhmioyrgei synqhkes diafanoys diadikasias sthn promhqeia ylikwn, eite miloyme gia iatrika ylika, eite gia farmaka sta dhmosia nosokomeia. Gnwrizete poly kala oti ena megalo problhma, to opoio prospaqei na antimetwpisei h kybernhsh, einai h hlektronikh mhxanorganwsh, poy elpizoyme oti qa bohqhsei na pataxqei drastika mia nootropia poy dhmioyrghqhke epi seira etwn.

MAYRIDHS: Sxetika me tis kataggelies poy ekane o ekproswpos Typoy toy PASOK, gia tis kataxwrhseis toy Ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn se efhmerides, exete na sxoliasete kati;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, einai ypoxrewsh. An mpeite sto ktirio ths Grammateias Epikoinwnias  Enhmerwshs, qa deite anarthmeno to keimeno me ta dikaiwmata toy polith kai tis ypoxrewseis twn dhmosiwn yphresiwn. Einai ypoxrewsh toy dhmosioy, ypoxrewsh ths Politeias, ypoxrewsh kaqe ypoyrgeioy xwrista na enhmerwnei toys polites.

KAKALHS: Sto qema twn limaniwn, eipate prohgoymenws, oti ayto poy endiaferei thn kybernhsh einai na ayjhqei h apodotikothta kai h antagwnistikothta twn limaniwn kai na fqasei se eyrwpaika epipeda. Ayto, pisteyei h kybernhsh, oti qa ginei mono mesw twn idiwtwn, mono mesw ths ekxwrhshs se idiwtes. Apokleietai o dhmosios xarakthras;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ma, exoyn dhmosio xarakthra. Opws gnwrizete, h etaireia kata 75% anhkei sto dhmosio. Den exei allajei o dhmosios xarakthras, oyte kai allazei.

KAKALHS: Epidiwjh ths kybernhshs, poia einai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H epidiwjh ths kybernhshs einai na bohqhsei me bash kai tis desmeyseis poy exei sto programma ths, wste na ayjhqei h dynatothta poy exei to limani. Gia paradeigma, ayth th stigmh diakineitai enas orismenos ariqmos konteiners sto limani kai symfwna me tis meletes poy exoyn ginei, poly syntoma -apo th stigmh poy proxwrhsoyn ta sxedia ta opoia exei hdh anakoinwsei o Ypoyrgos Naytilias- o ariqmos aytos qa triplasiastei. Opws antilambaneste, ayto mono kalo einai gia thn eqnikh oikonomia. Einai poly shmantiko gia to limani toy Peiraia na ginei diametakomistiko kentro metaforas proiontwn, apo oles tis xwres ths Anatolhs pros th Dysh. Na ginei, dhladh, to limani toy Peiraia h pylh pros th Dysh kai na mhn afhsoyme na ginei pylh pros th Dysh ena allo limani se geitonikes xwres.

KAKALHS: Na to kanw pio sygkekrimeno; O emporeymatikos staqmos, aytos qa parameinei sto dhmosio h qa ekxwrhqei se idiwtes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O dhmosios xarakthras den amfisbhthqhke pote. O k. Kefalogiannhs exei hdh anakoinwsei kai einai jekaqaro, apo ayta poy sas anelysa prohgoymenws: H prospaqeia toy OLP na ayjhsei tis dynatothtes poy exei to limani toy Peiraia. Qa ayjhqei me synergasies poy qa ginoyn katopin dieqnwn diagwnismwn, me dieqneis etaireies.

SIDERHS: O OLP eixe se sxesh me persi esoda 35% parapanw. Giati den mporei na kanei monos toy ayth th leitoyrgikh anaptyjh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Akoysa oti kai xqes xrhsimopoihqhkan ariqmoi sthn aiqoysa ayth - h diabazw se dhmosieymata efhmeridwn ariqmoys- oi opoioi den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta, opws oti kaqhmerinws xanei to limani 1,5 ekatommyrio eyrw. Kai anarwtiemai: Pws einai dynaton na xanei kaqhmerinws 1,5 ekatommyrio eyrw otan, se analysh kostoys thn opoia exw mprosta moy, to 2005 eixe sto synolo twn esodwn toy -xwris ta ejoda, ston tziro toy dhladh- 130 ekatommyria eyrw. Qelw na pw dhladh, xwris na exei kanenan proswpiko ypainigmo ayto, oti xrhsimopoioyntai apo orismenoys stoixeia ta opoia den exoyn sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

SIDERHS: Telos pantwn, ta dika moy htan epishma stoixeia. Na rwthsw kai kati allo: Xqes o k. Polydwras, milwntas ston Pretenterh, eipe oti h Astynomia exei epityxies me th bohqeia toy Qeoy. Bebaia den gnwrizame oti o Qeos kanei syllhceis. To problhma einai oti, xqes pali, TA NEA dhmosieysan oti h sxolh Astynomikwn, oi neoi astynomikoi poy einai sth sxolh ypoxreoyntai kaqe Kyriakh na phgainoyn sthn Ekklhsia. Sas qymizei kati apo Iran ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw zhsei sto Iran, den jerw an exete tetoies empeiries eseis. Qa hqela parakalw na apeyqynete to opoio erwthma exete sxetiko me thn ypoqesh ayth sto Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs h na rwthsw egw kai na sas apanthsw ayrio.

SIDERHS: Ma den einai monadiko ayto. Einai aporroia toy oti ypogracate kapote to dhmochfisma toy Xristodoyloy, einai aporroia toy oti o k. Panagiwtopoylos sto Ypoyrgeio toy dioikoyse me th bohqeia ths Panagias, einai oti o k. Kalos molis orkisthke phge ston Kalliniko na toy filhsei to xeri, einai poy eseis exete pneymatiko ton Paisio, einai tosa pragmata. Einai tosa pragmata. Ton eixate pneymatiko. Exete kanei dhlwsh ep` aytoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei sto Syntagma mas katoxyrwmenh h Orqodojh qrhskeia mas. Qa hqela na sebastoyme to qrhskeytiko synaisqhma toy kaqenos eite pisteyei sthn Orqodojia eite ston Kaqolikismo eite ston Islamismo h opoy alloy.

SIDERHS: Safws ta sebomaste. Edw exoyme dhmosiopoihsh omws h opoia endexomenws na exei kapoia eklogikh antiparoxh. Ayto einai to problhma.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den to dexomai ayto.

PALAIOLOGOS: Hqela na rwthsw se sxesh me tis allages toy PASOK. To PASOK proxwrhse sthn anadomhsh toy. Allaje kai ton ekproswpo Typoy, einai enas pepeiramenos, katajiwmenos synadelfos sas -prwhn synadelfos sas epishs- kai proxwrhse kai stis diafores alles allages. Hdh o k. Eyqymioy edwse ta prwta deigmata grafhs. Anamenete eseis apo thn pleyra toy PASOK na kanei pleon ``domikh antipoliteysh'', kata ton prosfilh oro toy k. Shmith;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwtate emena na sas apanthsw me oroys toy k. Shmith; Den qa to prajw. Den qa mpw ston peirasmo ayto.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, prohgoymenws poy rwthsa giati o Prwqypoyrgos den dexetai ton k. Kefalogiannh, moy eipate oti ayth einai dikh moy parathrhsh thn opoia den dexeste.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Krish, eipa.

GKOYTZANHS: H parathrhsh, nai. To idio einai peripoy. Dhladh ti den dexeste; Oti ypeblhqh aithma apo ton k. Kefalogiannh h oti den egine dekto apo ton k. Karamanlh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai safes oti einai krish giati den emperiexei stoixeio plhroforias. Qa moy epitrecete na exw perissoteres plhrofories kai kata synepeia na mporw na pw oti einai krish h opoia den emperiexei...

GKOYTZANHS: Mporei na to diatypwsete ws plhroforia, oti h plhroforia poy exw...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mporeite na kanete reportaz gia na to janasyzhthsoyme.

GKOYTZANHS: H plhroforia poy exw einai oti ypeblhqh aithma gia synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den isxyei ayto.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, dedomenoy oti exete sth diaqesh sas stoixeia, mporeite na mas peite posh einai h apwleia twn dhmosiwn esodwn apo thn kaqysterhsh twn ektelwnismwn sta limania toy Peiraia kai ths Qessalonikhs, thn periodo poy oi ergazomenoi ekei den proxwroyn se yperwriakh ergasia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai gi` ayto to qema kapoy diabasa kai moy dinete thn eykairia na anaferqw: To 2005 to synolo twn esodwn toy telwneioy, to mhna Noembrio -o pio kontinos antistoixos mhnas giati twra molis eimaste stis arxes Dekembrioy- htan 965 ekatommyria eyrw. To Noembrio toy 2006 anhlqe sta 971 ekatommyria eyrw. Einai dhladh, ayjhmeno kata 0,6%. Kai genika, mias kai moy dinete thn eykairia, oi ayjhseis twn eisprajewn toy dhmosioy to Noembrio anerxotan se pososto 12,7%.

GKOYTZANHS: Gia to qema me tis times twn nosokomeiakwn -kai ta loipa- ylikwn, eisaste ikanopoihmenoi apo ta apotelesmata poy exei ferei h kybernhsh sas se ayta ta tria xronia, wste na antimetwpisei to fainomeno; Giati ws pros tis proqeseis sas, entajei, tis gnwrizoyme.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa eimaste ikanopoihmenoi otan petyxoyme toys stoxoys mas synolika. Gnwrizoyme oti einai mia diadikasia poly dyskolh se oloys toys tomeis. Den einai kaqoloy eykolo na allajeis, giati opws isws prosejate, parathrhsa oti einai qema kai nootropias ayto to opoio anefera prohgoymenws. Qa eimaste eyxaristhmenoi, loipon, otan leitoyrghsei synolika to mhxanografiko systhma poy qa bohqhsei poly perissotero sthn kateyqynsh ths diafaneias kai qa pataxqoyn sto megalytero pososto ta fainomena ayta. Kai ayto isxyei gia oloys toys tomeis toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.

Sas eyxaristw.

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