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Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-05-17

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

GENIKH GRAMMATEIA EPIKOINWNIAS

GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 17 Maioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 73724336

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 17 Maioy 2007

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs, qa synanthqei ayrio, Paraskeyh 18 Maioy, stis 10:00, sto Megaro Majimoy, me toys Ypoyrgoys k.k. Prokoph Paylopoylo, Eyaggelo Meimarakh, Dhmhtrh Sioyfa, Eyaggelo Mpasiako kai Byrwna Polydwra.

Ejalloy stis 12:00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei epishs sto Megaro Majimoy me ton Ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Giwrgo Alogoskoyfh.

Telos, sto Grafeio toy, sth Boylh, ayrio bebaiws pali, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei stis 13:00 me ton eyrwboyleyth k. Ant. Trakatellh, stis 13:20 me ton Antiproedro ths Boylhs k. Giannh Tragakh kai stis 13:40 me thn k. Olga Kefalogiannh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: (Den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Einai prwhn symboylos toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

GKOYTZANHS: Ti antikeimeno qa exei h synanthsh;

ANTWNAROS: O Prwqypoyrgos, opws gnwrizete, synantatai me polloys synergates toy.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, to antikeimeno ths synergasias toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys Ypoyrgoys... ;

ANTWNAROS: Einai proergasia gia th qerinh periodo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Sth synanthsh qa einai oloi mazi h kata monas;

ANTWNAROS: Oi Ypoyrgoi poy sas eipa qa einai stis 10:00, oloi mazi.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: A, oloi mazi;

ANTWNAROS: Afoy sas eipa oti ayth h synanthsh qa ginei ayrio stis 10:00. Stis 12:00 akoloyqei allh synanthsh me ton k. Alogoskoyfh.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Exei qema ayth h synanthsh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa. Einai proergasia gia th qerinh periodo.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Pente Ypoyrgoi einai... ;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa ta onomata.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ayrio eipate oti qa synanthqei o Prwqypoyrgos me ton Ypoyrgo Oikonomias ton k. Alogokoyfh, ypociazomai meta th shmantikh epityxia, opws toylaxiston xarakthrizei h kybernhsh, ths arshs ths epithrhshs. Mono poy den symfwnei to PASOK me ayto kai xqes o k. Papandreoy milhse gia mystikes symfwnies oi opoies den desmeyoyn se kamia periptwsh to komma, to PASOK otan qa erqei sthn ejoysia kai to allo oti milane, oti texnhta opws mphkame, opws egine texnhta h istoria ths apografhs etsi texnhta twra ginetai kai h arsh ths epithrhshs.

ANTWNAROS: Einai prosbolh kai apajiwsh gia toys eyrwpaikoys qesmoys kai ta organa ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs osa entelws asthrikta isxyrizetai o k. Papandreoy. Alla panw ap` ola einai prosbolh kai apajiwsh gia toys Ellhnes polites poy katebalan prospaqeies ta teleytaia tria xronia wste na noikokyreytei h ellhnikh oikonomia kai na bgei apo th dysaresth, poly asxhmh katastash sthn opoia thn afhsan oi prohgoymenes kybernhseis, oi kybernhseis toy PASOK, stis opoies o k. Papandreoy --to qymizw gia mia akomh fora-- htan koryfaio melos, meteixe sthn kybernhtikh epitroph kai den qymamai pote na diafwnhse me kapoia apofash.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Eyqymioy milwntas xqes gia thn ekdhlwsh sthn opoia symmeteixe o k. Priniwtakhs eipe oti ayth den diorganwqhke apo thn PASP. Telika poios diorganwse ayth thn ekdhlwsh;

ANTWNAROS: Einai pera apo opoiadhpote amfisbhthsh oti th sygkekrimenh ekdhlwsh, bebaiws, thn organwse h PASP. Ftanei kaneis na dei to fylladio to opoio dianemotan tote kai na diabasei poy ginontan oi dhlwseis symmetoxhs. Ean den kanw laqos leei oti ginontan sto ``grafeiaki ths PASP'', sthn ASOEE. Aytoi, loipon, htan oi organwtes kai einai safes poios kalese poion.

KAKALHS: Pws symbibazetai o neos stoxos ths oikonomikhs politikhs poy eipe xqes o Prwqypoyrgos gia isoskelismenoys proypologismoys ws to 2010 me tis yposxeseis poy edwse gia perissoteroys poroys poy qa apeleyqerwqoyn gia thn katapolemhsh ths ftwxeias, thn Paideia, thn Ygeia. O prwtos stoxos gia toys isoskelismenoys proypologismoys synepagetai megales perikopes stis koinwnikes dapanes kai hdh h kybernhsh gia ton proypologismo toy 2006 exei kocei 430 ekatommyria eyrw. Mhpws prokeitai gia ``kalpikes'' yposxeseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy en ocei twn eklogwn;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton: Oi ekloges --qa sas to pw gia mia akomh fora gia na prokatalabw endexomenes erwthseis oi opoies piqanon na moy ginoyn kata th diarkeia ths shmerinhs enhmerwshs-- qa ginoyn sthn wra toys, opws exoyme pei. Synepws opoiadhpote syzhthsh gia ``sthsimo'' kalphs den exei kanena antikeimeno. Deyteron: H shmerinh kybernhsh diakrinetai, metajy twn allwn, gia th synepeia twn apofasewn, twn prajewn kai twn drasewn ths. Kai exei apodeijei oti perikoptei tis dapanes ekei poy prepei na tis perikocei xwris na qigetai kaqoloy o koinwnikos istos ths xwras. Antiqeta den perikoptontai --kai to lew gia mia akomh fora me apolyth safhneia-- me ta 430 ekatommyria eyrw poy anaferate, koinwnikes dapanes. To exei pei hdh o k. Alogoskoyfhs me perissh, qa elega, kaqarothta poy den afhnei kanena periqwrio gia amfisbhthsh. H poreia ths xwras ta teleytaia tria xronia deixnei oti me to noikokyrema ayto --poy gia 20 xronia den ginotan-- mporoyme kai isoskelismenoys proypologismoys na exoyme kai na sthrizoyme ekeines tis tajeis oi opoies exoyn th megalyterh anagkh. Kai ependyseis sth xwra na proselkyoyme kai anaptyjh na epitygxanetai. Kai doyleia na brisketai gia toys anergoys kai h xwra mas na ginetai polos eljhs gia osoys diapistwnoyn --kai einai polloi aytoi poy to diapistwnoyn-- oti h Ellada allazei.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, ep` aytoy, mia deyterh erwthsh. Giati tote o Prwqypoyrgos den anefere sygkekrimena mia tajh megeqoys gia toys poroys poy apeleyqerwnontai; Dhladh, qa mporoyse na pei gia na ginei kai pio peistikos oti apeleyqerwnontai se ayto to epipedo oi poroi. Ayto giati den to ekane; Giati na ginei pisteytos dhladh;

ANTWNAROS: Giati h kybernhsh ginetai pisteyth apo tis prajeis ths kai ta apotelesmata twn politikwn ths.

KAKALHS: Ayto akribws einai to problhma.

ANTWNAROS: Ayto akribws anagnwrizei h megalh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn politwn: Oti h shmerinh kybernhsh kai o Prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs einai ekeinoi poy mporoyn na odhghsoyn me sigoyria kai asfaleia th xwra sto mellon.

GKOYTZANHS: Etsi opws mas ta perigrafete mallon zoyme se mia allh xwra, kyrie Ekproswpe. Alla to erwthma to diko moy einai to ejhs: Pws afoy ola pane toso kala to biotiko epipedo toso twn xamhlwn koinwnikwn strwmatwn oso kai twn mikromesaiwn peftei ta teleytaia xronia;

ANTWNAROS: To biotiko epipedo beltiwnetai. Mallon eseis perigrafete mia xwra sthn opoia nomizete oti zeite h blepete mia dikh sas eikonikh pragmatikothta.

TSIOYFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes o symboylos toy Prwqypoyrgoy o k. Giannhs Kefalogiannhs kai thn idiothta toy thn anaferw gia na mh moy peite oti den sxoliazete dhlwseis boyleyth, o k. Kefalogiannhs einai kybernhtiko stelexos, gi` ayto anaferw thn idiothta toy, eipe oti yparxei elleimma syntonismoy sthn kybernhsh. Diapistwse, oti gia prwth fora sta xronia poy ekeinos einai ``sta pragmata'', panta yphrxe kapoios poy syntonize kai elegxe toys boyleytes, toys Ypoyrgoys kai zhthse profanws na yparjei ena tetoio proswpo poy na syntonizei, kati to opoio eixe teqei kai sto parelqon. Exei kapoia apanthsh h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio.

PALAIOLOGOS: Xqes o Prwqypoyrgos sto thleoptiko diaggelma toy anaferqhke stis metarryqmiseis alla gia prwth fora den anaferqhke me sygkekrimeno xronodiagramma kai den eipe xarakthristika oti qa exoyn orizonta th lhjh ths tetraetias. Einai laqos h epishmansh moy;

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai to antikeimeno ths erwthshs sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia prwth fora o k. Karamanlhs den eipe oti oi metarryqmiseis qa exoyn orizonta th lhjh ths tetraetias.

ANTWNAROS: Oi metarryqmiseis synexizontai. Oi metarryqmiseis den einai kati poy teleiwnei ayrio, meqayrio, se merikoys mhnes. Oi metarryqmiseis pane mprosta th xwra. Oi metarryqmiseis einai kati poy kaqe xwra, fysika kai h dikh mas, xreiazetai se synexh bash.

GKOYTZANHS: O k. Giannhs Kefalogiannhs, an den apatwmai, einai symboylos toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Ejakoloyqei na einai. Den dhmioyrgoyn ena qema ayta ta opoia leei peri anasxhmatismoy, peri anagkhs syntonisth... ;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na epanelqw sto erwthma toy synadelfoy k. Gkatsioy gia thn ekdhlwsh ths PASP. An den apate o k. Eyqymioy eipe kai kati akoma, oti o k. Priniwtakhs breqhke ekei kat oysian proskeklhmenos apo ton k. Staikoyra. Yparxei kapoio sxolio gi ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa prohgoymenws.

MELIGKWNHS: Mias kai milhsate gia metarryqmiseis, dedomenoy oti to asfalistiko oytws h allws qa metateqei gia thn epomenh tetraetia, sxetika me tis ypoloipes metarryqmiseis opws kapoies apokratikopoihseis, kapoies idiwtikopoihseis poy eixe ejaggeilei ayth h kybernhsh, ELTA, OTE k.l.p., aytes synexizoyn kanonika h pane kai aytes gia thn epomenh tetraetia;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw se shmerinh dhlwsh toy k. Alogoskoyfh poy anaferqhke ston OTE kai leei oti ola einai mesa sto xronodiagramma.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to asfalistiko phgainei gia thn epomenh tetraetia.

ANTWNAROS: To asfalistiko einai qema gia to opoio h kybernhsh exei topoqethqei, me apolyth safhneia. Den allazei tipota.

GKOYTZANHS: Nai, oti qa anoijei thn epomenh tetraetia.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa exei pei h kybernhsh.

GKOYTZANHS: Telos pantwn. Egw jerw oti qa paei thn epomenh tetraetia kai nomizw oti ayto exei pei kai h kybernhsh. Einai, omws, ena poly shmantiko qema. Prin apo tis ekloges qa dwsei tis basikes kateyqynseis twn ryqmisewn poy qa qelhsei na ferei gia na jerei kai o kosmos ti chfizei h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: Qa pw, gia mia akomh fora, oti to asfalistiko einai ena eqniko qema poy apasxolei oloys toys Ellhnes. H kybernhsh exei safeis qeseis tis opoies exei gnwstopoihsei stoys Ellhnes polites. Den allazei tipota.

KAKALHS: Gia to asfalistiko. Eipate oti exei safeis qeseis h kybernhsh. Mporeite na mas tis perigracete toylaxiston me dyo logia;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na epanalabw tis qeseis tis opoies diaxronika h kybernhsh exei diatypwsei apo to Marth toy 2004 mexri shmera. Einai safeis. Parakalw na anatrejete kai qa deite oti den yparxei kamia apolytws diaforopoihsh.

KAKALHS: Dhladh, diabebaiwnete ton ellhniko lao kai mprosta stis kalpes oti den qa prokeitai na yparjei oyte ayjhsh toy orioy syntajiodothshs, oyte meiwsh twn syntajewn, oyte ayjhsh twn eisforwn.

ANTWNAROS: Oi qeseis ths kybernhshs einai ekpefrasmenes kai katagegrammenes. Parakalw na anatrejete se aytes tis qeseis.

KAKALHS: Giati den tis epanalambanete, ean einai etsi ta pragmata;

ANTWNAROS: Dioti thn enhmerwsh qa moy epitrecete, oson afora to skelos twn apanthsewn, na th diejagw me ton tropo poy epilegw egw. Eseis kanete tis erwthseis kai egw dinw tis apanthseis.

KAKALHS: Oi apanthseis einai poy dhmioyrgoyn problhma.

GKOYTZANHS: Ean oi qeseis einai ekpefrasmenes, safeis kai dedomenes kai tis jerei h ellhnikh koinwnia, tote giati den anoije to asfalistiko se ayth thn tetraetia gia na kerdisoyme kai xrono;

ANTWNAROS: Dioti olo to synolo twn qesewn ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs den mporei na perioristei se dyo h treis arades h dyo paragrafoys, opws prospaqeite na kanete endexomenws eseis. Einai se ejelijh o dialogos ton opoio exei dromologhsei h shmerinh kybernhsh. Eipame oti qa sygkentrwqoyn ta stoixeia kai sthn epomenh tetraetia qa syzhthqei h oysia toy asfalistikoy qematos. Ayto einai safes. Den yparxei kamia apoklish kai den allazei apolytws tipota.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh, xqes, akoysthkan entones fhmes gia paraithsh toy Genikoy Grammatea toy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs k. Stefanoy, o k. Stefanoy paramenei sth qesh toy;

ANTWNAROS: Profanws me ayta ta opoia lete gia paraithsh qa asteieyeste. Dioti oi en logw isxyrismoi einai apokyhmata fantasias.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den yphrje, dhladh, problhma stis sxeseis toy h estw kapoio zhthma sth sxesh toy me ton k. Sioyfa;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa molis.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me aformh kai th xqesinh protash ths PROTON BANK gia thn agora toy omologoy TSPEAQ, blepoyme to teleytaio diasthma mia seira apo protaseis xrhmatopistwtikwn Idrymatwn gia thn agora omologwn. Mhpws krybetai h kybernhsh pisw apo tis protaseis aytes twn trapezwn;

ANTWNAROS: Oi isxyrismoi aytoi  kai den anaferomai se esas, alla se osoys toys anaparagoyn se orismena mesa enhmerwshs-- steroyntai basews. Mas eipan sthn arxh apo to PASOK oti apo ta omologa xaqhkan dhqen polla xrhmata. Shmera kai me ayth thn protash, alla kai me alles, apodeiknyetai oti oxi mono xrhmata den xaqhkan alla me tis prosfores gia ejagora twn omologwn toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy, ta Tameia se orismenes periptwseis, exoyn kerdh. Etsi einai fer` eipein h periptwsh toy Tameioy twn dhmosiografwn poy eisprattei kai ena kerdos merikwn ekatommyriwn eyrw, ean apofasisei --ayto einai dikh toy apofash-- na to dwsei pisw.

Mas eipan apo to PASOK, sthn arxh, gia kapoio omologo dhqen 300 ekat. eyrw, prospaqwntas na dhmioyrghsoyn ceytikes entypwseis. Kai apodeixqhke oti to en logw omologo, gia to opoio shmainonta stelexh toy PASOK kai sthn thleorash edinan to laqos poso, htan gia 280 ekat. eyrw. Gia 280 ekat. eyrw synafqhke ayto to omologo, 280 ekat. eyrw eisepraje to ellhniko Dhmosio kai 280 ekat. eyrw xrwsta to ellhniko Dhmosio.

Mas eipan akomh apo to PASOK oti h Xrhmatisthriakh ``AKROPOLIS'' htan dhqen ``galazia''. Kai apodeiknyetai me stoixeia poy kateqese o Prwqypoyrgos kai ta opoia einai apotelesma ths ereynas ths Epitrophs Kefalaiagoras, einai dhladh stoixeia pera apo kaqe amfisbhthsh, oti tis perissoteres xrhmatisthriakes prajeis, panw apo 70, tis ekane ayth h dhqen ``galazia'' Xrhmatisthriakh otan th xwra thn kybernoyse to PASOK. Htan synallages perierges. Agores kai pwlhseis synexeia. Trampes tis lene sthn agora.

Mas eipan akomh --se ayto apanthsa prohgoymenws, alla to epanalambanw-- apo to PASOK oti htan ``galazia'' dhqen ta stelexh ths Xrhmatisthriakhs ``AKROPOLIS''. Kai apodeiknyetai twra oti ton perasmeno Dekembrh, to kat` ejoxhn shmainon stelexos ths Xrhmatisthriakhs ``AKROPOLIS'' to kalese h PASP, h foithtikh organwsh toy PASOK, se mia ekdhlwsh sthn ASOEE. Lete oi foithtes na hjeran monoi toys poioi einai oi shmainontes xrhmatistes; To cema, jerete, exei konta podaria. Kaqe ceytikos isxyrismos den mporei na staqei. Ola jeskepazontai. As stamathsoyn, loipon, apo to PASOK na diatypwnoyn isxyrismoys poy kamia sxesh den exoyn me thn alhqeia. Kai qa kaloysa ton k. Eyqymioy, poy toy aresei ton teleytaio kairo na metraei tis hmeres, na stamathsei meta apo 79 hmeres na aradiazei stoys Ellhnes polites tetoia cemata. Den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes o k. Papandreoy eqese kapoia erwthmata diplwmatika kai o k. Alekos Papadopoylos. To ena erwthma, to diabazw opws einai edw, einai: Giati o k. Karamanlhs synexizei 78 hmeres --einai ayta peri ariqmhsewn poy legate-- na krybei stoixeia poy exei gia ta Tameia kaqws epishs kai stoixeia gia tis symbaseis gia ta epikindyna omologa. Ayto einai to ena erwthma poy eqese. To deytero erwthma poy eqese o k. Papadopoylos einai: Giati meta apo 78 hmeres den exei askhqei kamia poinikh diwjh gi' aytes tis ypoqeseis. Ektos apo thn epiqesh poy kanate ston k. Papandreoy kai to PASOK, yparxei epi ths oysias apanthsh se ayta;

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws. Ta stoixeia exoyn doqei. Opoy zhtoyntai stoixeia didontai. Oson afora de th dikastikh diwjh, qa prepei na katalaboyn o k. Papandreoy kai o k. Papadopoylos oti h shmerinh Kybernhsh, antiqeta me oti prospaqhse na kanei sto parelqon to PASOK, den podhgetei kai den prospaqei na podhgethsei th Dikaiosynh. H Dikaiosynh einai anejarthth kai oxi a la carte opws pisteyoyn oi kyrioi toy PASOK.

GKOYTZANHS: Yparxei kai ena synafes erwthma, gia na kleisei ayth h enothta, to opoio qetei pali o k. Papandreoy: Giati 3 xronia o k. Karamanlhs den anoigei to qema toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Ti krybei; Giati fobatai; Profanws krybetai h Kybernhsh dioti fobatai kai qelei th Dikaiosynh ejarthmenh.

ANTWNAROS: Qa parakaloysa ton arxhgo toy PASOK na einai kalytera enhmerwmenos.

NASOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, synelhfqh enas astynomikos, o opoios meteixe kai sthn froyra Ypoyrgwn ths paroysas Kybernhshs, na katexei ena kilo hrwinh. Epishs yparxei kai ena allo kroysma me to dioikhth toy astynomikoy tmhmatos ths Neas Iwnias, opws gnwrizete, o opoios synelhfqh na xrhmatizetai gia na mesolabhsei se dikastikh ypoqesh. Problhmatizei thn Kybernhsh h eikona ayth;

ANTWNAROS: Gia to men prwto symban anafereste se enan astynomiko o opoios yphretoyse palaia sth froyra toy k. Markogiannakh, toy prwhn Yfypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs. Kai o opoios meta --opws eipe o k. Boylgarakhs pro oligoy, edwse synenteyjh sth NET-- ton phre o idios sth froyra toy. Diapistwsan mia periergh symperifora kai eixe hdh apomakrynqei prin teqei qema. Gia to deytero qema, den exw ypoch moy ta stoixeia. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs. Pantws, ayto deixnei gia allh mia fora oti o pelekys peftei barys sta kefalia olwn osoi probainoyn se paranomes prajeis.

MELIGKWNHS: Gnwrizete gia thn yparjh kapoioy synhmmenoy prospektoys, enhmerwtikoy fylladioy to opoio yphrxe mazi me th symbash ths J.P.MORGAN kai den exei doqei sth dhmosiothta apo thn Kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Exw pei kai alles fores oti yparxei pollh parafilologia gia ta qemata twn omologwn. H pragmatikothta einai mia kai ayth fainetai apo thn proqymia Trapezwn kai allwn Organismwn na paroyn pisw ayta ta omologa poy orismenoi speydoyn, biastika, na ta xarakthrisoyn me tis pio apiqanes lejeis.

KAKALHS: Me aformh thn arsh ths epithrhshs, mporeite na mas peite kanontas enan apologismo posoys epipleon foroys plhrwsan oi misqwtoi kai oi syntajioyxoi ta teleytaia 3 xronia, thn idia stigmh poy epixeirhseis meiwnan ta forologika toys barh me apallages logw ths meiwshs twn forologikwn syntelestwn;

ANTWNAROS: Ayta einai eidika qemata. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn. Eimai bebaios oti ola ta stoixeia poy aforoyn thn oikonomikh katastash ths xwras perilambanontai sta stoixeia ta opoia dhmosiopoioyntai.

KAKALHS: Den jerete dhladh poios... (den akoygetai) ths epithrhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Shmasia exei oti h xwra phgainei mprosta. Kai osoi den qeloyn na to katalaboyn, eqelotyfloyn.

KAKALHS: H xwra phgainei mprosta alla oi misqwtoi einai kaqhlwmenoi.

ANTWNAROS: H xwra kai mazi oi polites ths phgainoyn mprosta. Polites poy qa wfelhqoyn kai wfeloyntai oloi mazi apo th beltiwsh ths oikonomias. Me cemata san kai ayta poy xrhsimopoioyse kata koron to PASOK, h oikonomia den mporei na paei mprosta.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, einai cema oti oi misqoi sthn Ellada einai oi xamhloteroi sthn Eyrwzwnh meta thn Portogalia; O Prwqypoyrgos proeklogika eipe oti qa ayjhqoyn.

ANTWNAROS: Shmasia exei h beltiwsh twn stoixeiwn. Kai qa prepei ola na ta blepei kaneis sygkritika me to xqes.

NASOPOYLOS: Yparxei kapoio sxolio apo thn pleyra ths Kybernhshs gia to aithma ths Enwshs Dikastwn kai Eisaggelewn na yparjei plhrhs ereyna me aformh thn ypoqesh toy k. Kedikogloy;

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei gia to qema toy Proedroy toy Areioy Pagoy k. Kedikogloy. To qema exei ejantlhqei.

GKOYTZANHS: Mporeite na mas peite poioi qa synodeysoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo sto tajidi toy sthn Aystralia;

ANTWNAROS: Ola ta stoixeia qa sas ta dwsei to Grafeio Typoy toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Sas eyxaristw.


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