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Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-11-13

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 13 Noembrioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 105683846

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 13 Noembrioy 2007

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

" Sxetika me erwthsh poy moy egine xqes apo ton k. Kakalh, anaforika me thn oloklhrwsh ths aerofwtografishs twn kamenwn perioxwn: Opws me enhmerwse o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn, h aerofwtografish exei hdh oloklhrwqei. To synolo twn stremmatwn poy kahkan me bash tis prwtes ektimhseis ths Pyrosbestikhs -poy shmainei oti den einai ta telika stoixeia- anerxetai se 2.689.816 stremmata kata to diasthma apo 1/7/2007 ews 31/8/2007, opote kai ekdhlwqhkan 4.577 pyrkagies sth xwra mas. Ej aytwn: 620.775 stremmata htan dasos, 986.184 stremmata htan dasikh ektash, 322 stremmata htan alsos, 285.840 stremmata htan ektaseis me xorta, 2.512 stremmata htan ektaseis me kalamia kai baltoys, 696.212 stremmata htan gewrgikes ektaseis, 97.651 stremmata htan ypoloipes kalliergeies kai 320 stremmata htan skoypidotopoi. Ta stoixeia ayta einai ths Pyrosbestikhs kai epanalambanw oti aforoyn sthn prwth ektimhsh. Gia thn oikonomikh apotimhsh twn zhmiwn qa sas enhmerwsw sxetika, otan oloklhrwqei apo to armodio ypoyrgeio.

Sxetika me tis ektaseis poy kahkan sthn Pentelh, prin apo ligo anakhryxqhkan anadaswtees apo thn Perifereia Attikhs. Exw epistolh, thn opoia moy esteile o Grammateas ths Perifereias Attikhs kai sas th diabazw: ``H pyrkagia sth qesh Kokkinara, Ag. Pantelehmwn dhmwn Khfisias, Melissiwn kai N. Pentelhs, elabe xwra stis 16/8/2007. H proqesmia basei ths keimenhs nomoqesias gia thn khryjh twn perioxwn ws anadaswtewn lhgei stis 16/11/2007. Parola ayta, me eggrafo moy pros to Dasarxh Pentelhs, logw meizonos shmasias toy qematos, eqesa katalhktikh hmeromhnia gia ekdosh ths parapanw eishghshs thn 31h Oktwbrioy 2007. O Dasarxhs Pentelhs agnohse thn entolh moy kai gia to logo ayto klhqhke se apologia, symfwna me tis diatajeis twn arqrwn 107 kai 109 toy Ypallhlikoy Kwdika. Xqes, 12/11/2007 kai wra 15.00 o en logw Dasarxhs paredwse thn eishghsh toy sth Dieyqynsh Daswn Anatolikhs Attikhs. Sthn eishghsh toy proteine na mhn khryxqoyn anadaswtea 195, 81 stremmata giati xrhzoyn peraiterw ereynas. Me olonyxtia endelexh episkophsh, h Dieyqynsh Daswn Anatolikhs Attikhs gia thn ypoloiph protash, shmera 13/11/2007 kai wra 11.30 ejedoqh apofash khryjhs symperilambanomenwn kai twn 195,81 stremmatwn, poy nai men den eferan dasikh blasthsh thn hmera ths pyrkagias, plhn omws, eixan allajei paranoma xrhsh. Kai moy episynaptei kai to sxedio apofashs.

" Ayrio, stis 11.00, synedriazei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Apasxolhshs. Me aformh ta qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Apasxolhshs, qa hqela na sas anaferw merika stoixeia gia thn anergia symfwna me tis probleceis ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs: To 2007 htan 8,4%, to 2008 problepetai na meiwqei sto 7,9% kai to 2009 anamenetai peraiterw meiwsh sto 7,5%. H Eyrwpaikh Epitroph anagnwrizei kai se ayton ton tomea tis prospaqeies poy kataballei h xwra mas. Opws epeshmane, hdh, me dhlwsh toy o armodios ypoyrgos k. Magginas, oi diapistwseis kai ta stoixeia ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs gia th dhmioyrgia newn qesewn ergasias kai synepws thn ejeliktikh ypoxwrhsh toy deikth ths anergias, epibebaiwnoyn thn apotelesmatikothta ths kybernhtikhs politikhs. H kybernhsh qa synexisei systhmatika kai meqodika tis prospaqeies ths me stoxeymenes draseis gia thn ayjhsh ths apasxolhshs kai thn antimetwpish ths anergias, idiws stis eypaqeis omades, dhladh, newn kai gynaikwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa yparjoyn allages sthn epikoinwniakh taktikh ths kybernhshs apenanti sthn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh kai ston enisxymeno Giwrgo Papandreoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

ARMENHS: Eixa rwthsei, prin apo liges hmeres, thn Paraskeyh nomizw, gia to an hrqe o apologismos toy Nomarxh Eyboias gia to pws dieqese ta kondylia. Ti ginetai me ayth thn ypoqesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Moy esteile mia epistolh, thn opoia exei koinopoihsei kai ston k. Paylopoylo, opoy anaferei oti ta misa xrhmata apo to 1 ekatommyrio eyrw, exoyn hdh doqei gia erga apokatastashs pyroplhktwn perioxwn. Perissoteres leptomereies qa hqela na zhthsete apo to armodio ypoyrgeio.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxei ena zhthma to opoio syzhteitai metajy twn politwn, giati h kybernhsh perimene thn anadeijh neoy arxhgoy sto PASOK gia na kinhqei me taxyteroys ryqmoys sthn ekponhsh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw poioi polites anarwtioyntai gi` ayto to opoio moy lete. Qa sas qymisw oti ta nomosxedia, gia ta opoia eixame desmeytei kataqetontas ta pro ths proeklogikhs periodoy -kai gia ta opoia proeklogika egine poly megalh syzhthsh- epanakatateqhsan. Qa sas qymisw oti to sxedio proypologismoy epishs kateteqh. Allwste o proypologismos htan to meizon zhthma gia to opoio o Prwqypoyrgos zhthse apo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias na pame se prowres ekloges. Qa sas qymisw oti h desmeysh mas, na arxisei o dialogos gia to Asfalistiko, egine hdh prajh. Kai exei proxwrhsei hdh h syzhthsh gia to Asfalistiko kai mia seira allwn zhthmatwn, ta opoia apodeiknyoyn oti ayth h kybernhsh synexizei na ergazetai. Ston tomea ston opoio exw thn timh na proistamai, sas qymizw oti thn prwth kiolas ebdomada meta tis ekloges, anakoinwsame toys xartes syxnothtwn -ena titanio ergo- to opoio epi xronia anemene h xwra mas. Yparxoyn polloi tomeis kai sthn Oikonomia kai thn Ygeia kai thn Paideia kai thn Apasxolhsh kai se ola ta alla ypoyrgeia, opoy apodeiknyetai oti h kybernhsh ergazetai me dynamismo kai me qelhsh na lysei mia seira problhmatwn. Den katalabainw, loipon, pws dhmioyrgeitai metajy kapoiwn politwn ayth h entypwsh sthn opoia anafereste.

GKOYTZANHS: Na rwthsw ligo pio sygkekrimena; H ejaggelia gia to telos sthn akinhth perioysia poy qa antikaqistoyse to foro, eixe dhmioyrghqei h entypwsh oti qa symperilhfqei san tropologia sto forologiko nomosxedio. Den egine, gia poio logo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: De gnwrizw kati tetoio. De qymamai na eixame anakoinwsei oti qa mpei ws tropologia sto forologiko nomosxedio.

GKOYTZANHS: Oxi. Eipa poia htan h ejaggelia kai poia htan h entypwsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me tis entypwseis, opws gnwrizete, de doyleyei mia kybernhsh.

GKOYTZANHS: Telos pantwn, pote qa ginei, pote qa ylopoihqei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa enhmerwqw apo to armodio ypoyrgeio kai qa sas pw.

GKOYTZANHS: An moy epitrepete, epishs, gia to nomosxedio gia thn chfo twn omogenwn, yparxei kati;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai sxedon etoimo -an oxi oloklhrwmeno- kai pisteyw oti syntoma, pantws qa einai se qesh o armodios ypoyrgos na to kataqesei sth Boylh. To pote einai syntoma den mporw na sas to prosdiorisw se sygkekrimenh hmeromhnia hmerwn, h ebdomadwn.

GKOYTZANHS: Epeidh pali exei dhmioyrghqei h entypwsh apo tis ejaggelies toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti qa katatiqeto molis qa anoige h Boylh kai nomizame oti qa eixe hdh katateqei apo ton Oktwbrio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To apolytws bebaio einai ayto to opoio o Prwqypoyrgos ejhggeile: Me thn enarjh twn synedriasewn ths Boylhs, qa katatiqeto to nomosxedio gia to opoio eixame desmeytei, opws kai egine. Epishs, apolytws bebaio einai oti kai polla alla nomosxedia exoyn proxwrhsei. Kai den exoyme kleisei akomh dyo mhnes apo thn hmera twn eklogwn. Oxi apo thn hmera orkwmosias ths kybernhshs, oyte kan apo thn hmera poy h kybernhsh phre chfo empistosynhs sth Boylh.

SARANTAKOS: Meta ton k. Kaklamanh, ena melos ths kybernhshs, o k. Boylgarakhs ekrine qetika th diadikasia ekloghs toy Proedroy toy PASOK. Yparxei qema na anoijei mia syzhthsh tetoia kai sth Nea Dhmokratia, gnwrizontas bebaiws oti den yparxei qema ekloghs arxhgoy, aplws lew gia to mellon.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthqhka xqes kai exw dwsei mia sxetikh apanthsh, opote de qa thn allajw.

SARANTAKOS: Epeidh yparxei kai melos ths kybernhshs. Xqes rwthqhkate gia ton k. Kaklamanh, epeidh yparxei kai melos ths kybernhshs, gi` ayto sas rwtw shmera.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, de qa allajw thn apanthsh moy.

KAKALHS: Telika h kybernhsh exei proxwrhsei de facto kai en agnoia toy ellhnikoy laoy sthn idiwtikopoihsh ths DEH; Anaferomai sto mnhmonio synergasias me to germaniko kolosso ths (den akoygetai) gia thn kataskeyh newn monadwn, sthn opoia pairnei to 51% syn to management.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oti ginetai, ginetai ypo to fws twn probolewn. Den yparxei kati to opoio na ginetai kryfiws...

KAKALHS: Den yparxei mnhmonio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H syzhthsh ayth, sthn opoia anafereste, exei jekinhsei edw kai ligo kairo kai sxedon ginetai dhmosia.

KAKALHS: An ginetai dhmosia, giati de dinete sto fws ths dhmosiothtas to mnhmonio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na sas dwsw kapoia perissotera stoixeia. Me to endiaferon poy deixnete, nomizw oti to armodio Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs qa sas dwsei opoia stoixeia qelete.

KAKALHS: Ma, einai qema poy afora eyrytera ton ellhniko lao. Den einai (den akoygetai)

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws, egw apantw sto kommati ths erwthshs poy anaferqhke, oti dhqen kryfiws ginontai pragmata.

KAKALHS: Wraia. Symfwna me to programma ths kybernhshs, h DEH paremene, ean qymamai kala, ston elegxo toy Dhmosioy. Exei allajei ayth h qesh ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To programma einai safes. Den xreiazetai na to analysw kai pali edw.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: To sxedio toy neoy eklogikoy nomoy einai hdh etoimo kai malista protiqetai h kybernhsh na to syzhthsei thn epomenh ebdomada sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws sas eipa, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph synedriazei ayrio me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Apasxolhshs. Gia th synedriash ths epomenhs ebdomadas den gnwrizw apo twra poio qa einai to qema. Den gnwrizw ean exei kaqoristei, alla oti to sxedio eklogikoy nomoy einai etoimo, pisteyw oti mporei na to epibebaiwsei kai o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylos.

ROYMELIWTHS: Mhpws anoigoyn ola ta qemata mazi; Milw gia tis proteraiothtes toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Dhladh, o eklogikos nomos, yparxei se ejelijh h syzhthsh gia to Asfalistiko, exoyme th syntagmatikh anaqewrhsh. Ayto qa yparjei apaitoymenos xronos gia na yparjei syzhthsh kai na epiteyxqei kai h megisth dynath synainesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H monh parathrhsh poy mporei na kanw einai oti h erwthsh sas erxetai se antiqesh me allh erwthsh synadelfoy sas, prohgoymenws, oti den kanei sxedon tipota h kybernhsh.

FOYRLHS: H kybernhsh qewrei oti prepei na epitaxynqoyn oi ryqmoi pantws sto kybernhtiko ergo kai se sxesh me ta nomosxedia kai se sxesh me metarryqmiseis sto Asfalistiko, sthn Paideia, gia paradeigma, poy tis perimenoyme apo thn prwth tetraetia kiolas kai ypotiqetai oti exoyn jekinhsei kiolas. Exoyn ejelijh kapoies apo aytes.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egine h ekpaideytikh metarryqmish. Den jerw ean to exete katalabei.

FOYRLHS: Qewrei h kybernhsh oti oloklhrwqhke;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den oloklhrwqhke, alla den perasan para dyo mhnes apo tis ekloges.

FOYRLHS: Gi` ayto rwtw. H kybernhsh qewrei skopimo na epitaxynei h qewrei skopimo na synexisei me ton idio ryqmo, opws mexri twra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws eixa thn eykairia na pw polles fores mesa se ayth thn aiqoysa, h metarryqmish kai dh se megala zhthmata...

FOYRLHS: Apaitei xrono.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apaitei xrono.

FOYRLHS: Gnwsto kai apolytws katanohto. Alla, egw rwtw gia to ryqmo. H kybernhsh qewrei oti o ryqmos me ton opoio kineitai to dimhno ayto, apo tis 16 Septembrioy, einai ikanopoihtikos kai eparkhs h exei stoxo na epitaxynei to ryqmo (den akoygetai)

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei, kata th gnwmh sas, kapoios tropos gia na metratai o ryqmos;

FOYRLHS: Ayto, ypoqetw oti o Prwqypoyrgos mporei na to krinei mono. Ean einai ikanopoihmenos apo to ryqmo poy kinoyntai oi ypoyrgoi toy, h kybernhsh toy. O idios mporei na to krinei. Ean einai eyxaristhmenos qa pei...

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos, loipon, kineitai sthn kateyqynsh twn odhgiwn pros toys ypoyrgoys toy. Nomizw oti ta pragmata apodeiknyoyn ean kineitai h kybernhsh me grhgoroys ryqmoys h oxi.

GKOYTZANHS: H aisqhsh poy yparxei sthn koinh gnwmh, den sas epibebaiwnei, pantws.

KAKALHS: Me poio tropo etoimazetai h kybernhsh na giortasei to Polytexneio; Metatrepontas thn Aqhna se ena aperanto stratopedo sygkentrwshs me 7.500 astynomikoys sto dromo kai tis kameres na parakoloyqoyn toys diadhlwtes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi neoi poy agwnisthkan sto Polytexneio, edwsan ena diaxroniko mhnyma. To mhnyma ayto einai mhnyma Dhmokratias. Sth Dhmokratia, loipon, xwra h antiqeth apoch. H Politeia ofeilei na perifroyrhsei, me oloys toy tropoys poy prepei na to kanei, th dynatothta twn politwn na ekfrasoyn eleyqera, xwris na kindyneyei h zwh toys, thn antiqeth apoch h thn opoia apoch.

PALAIOLOGOS: Anhsyxei thn kybernhsh h protash poy diatypwse, xqes, o Proedros toy SYRIZA k. Alabanos pros to PASOK gia syntonismenh drash sto qema twn idiwtikopoihsewn, sto qema twn apoqematikwn twn Tameiwn kai -den qymamai- se kapoio allo qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den mas anhsyxei o dialogos. Ennoeite metajy twn kommatwn;

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi o dialogos, oso to reyma poy diamorfwnetai h poy paei h poy hqelan kapoioi na diamorfwqei metajy twn dyo kommatwn, ths legomenhs kentroaristeras, se mia metwpikh antiparaqesh me thn kybernhsh se zhthmata aixmhs, opws einai to Asfalistiko, oi idiwtikopoihseis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den mas anhsyxei... ean ayto me rwthsate.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, ayto sas rwtw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Malista.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhladh, pisteyete oti den qa exete na antimetwpisete mia sklhrh antipoliteysh apo ton k. Papandreoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto einai allo erwthma.

PALAIOLOGOS: To diatypwnw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthste ton k. Papandreoy gi` ayto.

ARMENHS: Isxyei shmerino dhmosieyma, symfwna me to opoio o nomos gia to Asfalistiko qa katateqei sth Boylh ton Ianoyario h Febroyario;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exei apofasistei akomh kati. Giati, antilambaneste, oti otan o dialogos einai se ejelijh, to na exei proapofasisei kapoios kati tetoio den qa hxoyse kai dikaia apenanti stoys symmetexontes sto dialogo. H kybernhsh exei anoijei to dialogo. Perimenei th symmetoxh -kai eyelpistei sth symmetoxh- olwn twn forewn poy pragmatika endiaferontai gia to Asfalistiko. Giati, opws gnwrizete, to Asfalistiko den einai zhthma poy afora to shmera, oyte to ayrio, me thn ennoia toy 2008, 2009, 2010. Afora toys polites ayths ths xwras gia ta epomena 20,30 xronia toylaxiston. Ara, loipon, perimenei th symmetoxh olwn osoi pragmatika endiaferontai na bohqhsoyn sthn epilysh enos problhmatos. Ws ek toytoy, den exei proapofasisei kati, apo ayta ta opoia moy lete oti anaferontai sto dhmosieyma.

KAKALHS: Pantws, proxwra me poly grhgoroys ryqmoys h kybernhsh sto dialogo. Gia paradeigma, sthn prohgoymenh synedriash mesa se treis wres ``kaqarise'' me to qema ths xrhmatodothshs toy Asfalistikoy. Sth meqayrianh, qa ``kaqarisei'' kai me to qema ths enopoihshs twn Tameiwn kai allh mia menei gia ta Barea kai Anqygieina. Opote qa einai etoimh antikeimenika to Genarh na proxwrhsei sthn kataqesh nomosxedioy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To rhma poy xrhsimopoihsate...

KAKALHS: Entos eisagwgikwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai, entos eisagwgikwn. Alla kai ektos eisagwgikwn, ean ennoeite oti h kybernhsh lynei ontws to problhma ths xrhmatodothshs. Nai, to elyse. Giati gnwrizete poly kala oti yphrxe mia apofash, basei nomoy, apo to 2003 ews to 2008, to 1% toy AEP na phgainei sto IKA. Kai den phgaine mexri twra h phgaine pososto mikrotero h ligo mikrotero apo to 1%. Kai h ypoxrewsh ayth ews to 2008, sas exw pei -opws qymaste- pragmatopoieitai me thn eisroh 1,5 dis eyrw.

KAKALHS: Menoyn alla 8,5.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ara, loipon, to kommati ayto poy afora thn 5etia kai tis ypoxrewseis ths Politeias, ylopoieitai apo thn kybernhsh, opws dhlwsan kai oi dyo armodioi ypoyrgoi Oikonomikwn kai Apasxolhshs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ep` eykairia ths syzhthshs gia to Asfalistiko, exei h kybernhsh kaqarh eikona gia to ti akribws synebh me thn Epitroph Sofwn, thn Epitroph toy k. Analyth poy esteile mia epistolh paraithshs kai genika grafthkan diafora pragmata oti yphrxe mia dysforia ek meroys ths gia to oti den klhqhke sto dialogo gia to Asfalistiko;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eilikrinws, den gnwrizw to qema.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Blepw sthn ``Apogeymatinh'' se prwtoselido oti sth sygxarhthria epistolh poy esteile o k. Prwqypoyrgos pros ton k. Papandreoy sthn oysia toy leei, metajy twn allwn -opws leei h efhmerida- oti htan kai mia prosklhsh ston k. Papandreoy gia synergasia sta megala eqnika problhmata kai ola ta problhmata poy apasxoloyn thn Ellada. Einai etsi kai an einai etsi, phrate kapoia apanthsh apo ton k. Papandreoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas anegnwsa th sygxarhthria epistolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy lejh pros lejh. Den ekryca tipota. Kai mesa se aythn, opws qymaste oloi, o Prwqypoyrgos oysiastika anaferei oti einai aparaithth h synergasia kybernhshs-antipoliteyshs sta megala qemata. Ayto einai mia politikh apoch thn opoia eixe ekfrasei kai sto parelqon o Kwstas Karamanlhs, apo tote poy h Nea Dhmokratia htan sthn antipoliteysh. Kai pisteyw oti einai mia politikh apoch thn opoia h kybernhsh exei apodeijei sthn prajh oti thn ennoei apo to 2004 kai meta.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kai den exei brei antapokrish.

ROYSOPOYLOS: As poyme, eixe symbei mia antistoixh syzhthsh me ta qemata ths ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs. Kai alla zhthmata, oxi monon ayto. Twra, to pws antapokrinetai kai poios antapokrinetai, nomizw oti einai kati to opoio den xreiazetai na to krinw egw. To blepete oloi.

XIDIROGLOY: Qa yparjoyn prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs se qemata beltiwshs ths kaqhmerinothtas twn politwn; Kai edw, qa hqela na dwsw ena deytero skelos sthn erwthsh kai na rwthsw, ti ginetai me tis proslhceis poy apaitoyntai se krisimoys tomeis toy dhmosioy tomea opoy parathroyntai elleiceis proswpikoy. Gia paradeigma, sta noshleytika idrymata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Thn perasmenh Tetarth edwse analytikh synenteyjh Typoy o ypoyrgos Ygeias k. Abramopoylos. Exei dwsei polla stoixeia kai gia ton ariqmo kai gia toys tropoys me toys opoioys xeirizetai h kybernhsh ayto to qema. Ean den me apata h mnhmh moy, ypologise oti einai peripoy 14.000 ergazomenoi poy leipoyn eite se noshleytiko, eite se iatriko proswpiko. Kai exei hdh milhsei gia ton tropo me ton opoio proxwra h kybernhsh sth lysh aytoy toy problhmatos.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia to prwto skelos ths erwthshs. An yparxoyn prwtoboylies sto qema ths beltiwshs ths kaqhmerinothtas twn politwn. Sta sygkekrimena zhthmata ta opoia h kybernhsh exei entopisei oti yparxoyn problhmata endexomenws.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den apanthsa sto prwto skelos giati einai geniko. Eidikotera sas apanthsa xqes, na mhn to janadiabasw. Mporw na synexisw me enan katalogo pollwn stoixeiwn ta opoia anaferontai ws koinwnika metra ston proypologismo toy 2008, ektos dhladh apo ta epidomata koinwnikhs allhleggyhs, tis syntajeis toy OGA, to epidoma anergias - poy ayjanontai apo 10%  18%  19% ta tria ayta epidomata - systhnetai Tameio Koinwnikhs Synoxhs to opoio qa exei arxiko kefalaio 100 ekatommyriwn eyrw. Kai qa enisxyqei me to poso ton 500 ekatommyriwn eyrw to 2008 kai qa ftasei stadiaka sta 2 dis eyrw to 2011. Diatiqentai gia thn Ygeia apo ton taktiko proypologismo kondylia ayjhmena kata 9,4% se sxesh me fetos, dhladh, me ryqmo ypertriplasio apo ton plhqwrismo. Diatiqentai gia thn Paideia kondylia ayjhmena kata 6,5% se sxesh me to 2007, dhladh me ryqmo yperdiplasio toy plhqwrismoy. Xrhmatodoteitai ena poly megalo programma dhmosiwn ergwn poy qa ftasei ta 9,2 dis eyrw ayjhmeno kata 5,7% se sxesh me to 2007 gia ypodomes poy symballoyn sthn anaptyjh alla kai gia tis koinwnikes ypodomes ychlhs proteraiothtas. Ylopoioyme sto akeraio tis desmeyseis mas gia ta stelexh twn Enoplwn Dynamewn : Apo 1/1/2008 o misqos toy anqypoloxagoy anerxetai sta 860 eyrw to mhna syn thn eisodhmatikh politikh toy epomenoy etoys. Ylopoioyntai sto akeraio oi desmeyseis ths kybernhshs gia toys triteknoys. Oi koinwnikes metabibaseis ftanoyn to 2008 sto 18,4% toy AEP apo 18% toy AEP to 2007. Qymaste oti o Prwqypoyrgos eixe kanei mia eidikh anafora stis koinwnikes metabibaseis kai sth Qessalonikh gia to oti eimaste h xwra h opoia, enw diaqetei megalo posa stis koinwnikes metabibaseis o tropos me ton opoio ginontai, profanws apodeiknyetai se kapoio baqmo lanqasmenos. Giati antistoixa posa koinwnikwn metabibasewn se boreies xwres ths E.E exoyn poly megalyterh apodosh se baqos xronoy. Kai milame gia meiwsh ths anergias se poly megalytero pososto kai thn eyresh newn qesewn ergasias, toylaxiston gia ayto. Ylopoieitai opws hdh exei problefqei h meiwsh twn forologikwn syntelestwn gia ta noikokyria sto plaisio ths deyterhs fashs ths forologikhs metarryqmishs wste to 2009 ta mesaia eisodhmata na forologoyntai me syntelesth 25% apo 30% kai 40% poy isxye ews shmera. Parallhla, proxwrame sthn anamorfwsh toy foroy gonikwn paroxwn kai klhronomiwn kai ths forologias ths prwths katoikias. Ayta ta stoixeia -me mia seira allwn stoixeiwn, ta opoia gnwrizete kai exoyn anakoinwqei kai stis programmatikes dhlwseis- einai sthn prajh koinwnika metra, apodeijh oti h kybernhsh proxwraei sta koinwnika metra gia ta opoia desmeythke proeklogika kai malista poly grhgora.

PALAIOLOGOS: Meta thn akrws symbolikh kinhsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy na steilei eyxethria karta, sygxarhthria ston proedro toy PASOK, qa epidiwxqei sto amesws prosexes mellon kai mia synanthsh mazi toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: An o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs zhthsei synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo, fysika kai qa ginei.

KORAH: H kybernhsh exei apofasisei pote qa anoijei sthn Boylh to qema ths syntagmatikhs anaqewrhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthqhka kai xqes. Nomizw to teleytaio dimhno exw erwthqei 4-5 fores.

KORAH: Na mas dwsete ena xronodiagramma mexri ton Ioynio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa oti to Syntagma problepei me safhneia oti sthn prwth synodo ths anaqewrhtikhs Boylhs, ofeilei h Boylh na exei apofasisei. Ara, sthn prwth synodo ths anaqewrhtikhs Boylhs qa prepei na exei kleisei ayto to qema.

KORAH: Na sas to qesw diaforetika to erwthma. Qa einai prin h meta ta Xristoygenna;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti den qa einai prin ta Xristoygenna. Den exw kapoia antiqeth plhroforia, alla en pash periptwsei h kybernhsh exei to dikaiwma na to kanei mesa stoys epomenoys mhnes ews to kleisimo ths prwths synodoy. Tonizw to ``nomizw'' giati eilikrina sas lew den exw kapoia idiaiterh enhmerwsh gia to pote qa ginei ayto, an exei yparjei hdh apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Sas eyxaristw.


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