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Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-11-30

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 30 Noembrioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 108607018

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 30 Noembrioy 2007

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Kyrwqhke xqes apo th Boylh h symbash gia thn kataskeyh kai paraxwrhsh ths Boreiodytikhs Odoy Peloponnhsoy, dhladh toy aytokinhtodromoy Eleysina-Korinqos-Patra-Pyrgos-Tsakwna. Opws epeshmane o Ypoyrgos PEXWDE k. Giwrgos Soyflias, exoyn lhfqei ola ta aparaithta metra gia thn prostasia toy periballontos se oles tis perioxes ap` opoy dierxetai aytos o aytokinhtodromos poy einai ena terastio ergo. Eidika gia thn perioxh toy Kaiafa, o k. Soyflias anakoinwse xqes sth Boylh, oti pera apo thn arxikh apofash na ypogeiopoihqei o dromos se mhkos 300 metrwn, qa zhthsei apo toys kataskeyastes h ypogeiopoihsh na kalycei mhkos 600 metrwn, diplasio, dhladh, apo thn arxikh problech.

Opws ejhghse o k. Soyflias, den mporei na ginei ypogeiopoihsh se megalytero mhkos, dioti an ginotan kati tetoio qa ephreazotan h omalh epikoinwnia twn nerwn ths limnhs. Se o,ti afora to qema ths xarajhs gia to opoio exoyn ginei polles syzhthseis o k. Soyflias tonise oti eginan diejodikes meletes poy apedeijan oti h xarajh poy epelegh einai h kalyterh. Kai ayto giati kamia meleth kai kaneis eidikos episthmonas den pareixe arketes diabebaiwseis oti h lysh ths anatolikhs xarajhs poy eixan proteinei orismenoi, dhladh h lysh na perasei o dromos apo to boyno, den qa ephreaze kairia, isws kai katastrofika tis phges ths limnhs toy Kaiafa.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KAPRALOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw, an skopeyei h kybernhsh na ejetasei to aithma poy ypebalan xqes oi deka boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias gia syntajiodothsh ths ellhnidas agrotissas sta 60 xronia.

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme pei oti oles oi protaseis oi opoies katatiqentai ginontai antikeimeno meleths.

ROYMELIWTHS: Telika, kyrie Ekproswpe, gia na katalaboyme teqhke xqes qema kommatikhs peiqarxias apo ton Prwqypoyrgo sthn omilia toy sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada h oxi; Kai sas to lew dioti shmera, o boyleyths k. Giannhs Manwlhs, eipe oti den katalabe kati tetoio.

ANTWNAROS: Nomizw oti h omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy htan safhs. Den jerw se poio edafio akribws anafereste. O Prwqypoyrgos den xrhsimopoihse kanena tetoio oro san ki ayto poy xrhsimopoihsate eseis. O Prwqypoyrgos eqese to perigramma twn metarryqmisewn poy me synepeia kai apofasistikothta prowqei h shmerinh kybernhsh. To paroysiase, to anelyse stoys parontes boyleytes toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias kai toys epeshmane th spoydaiothta aytwn twn metarryqmisewn gia ton topo.

KAKALHS: Eqese to perigramma o Prwqypoyrgos, alla den epanelabe ta tria ``den'' poy eixe pei proeklogika. Ayto to qewreite tyxaio kai ti shmainei ayto gia th boylhsh ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Ta tria ``den'' ta opoia lete ta exei anaferei o Prwqypoyrgos kat` epanalhch.

KAKALHS: Den ta eipe xqes, omws.

ANTWNAROS: An hsastan shmera sth Boylh, qa akoygate oti o armodios Ypoyrgos Apasxolhshs k. Magginas, apantwntas se epikairh erwthsh, ta epanelabe, pros dialysh oiasdhpote amfibolias. Oi basikes arxes, entos twn opoiwn kineitai h prospaqeia gia thn anamorfwsh toy asfalistikoy systhmatos einai kala gnwstes kai mono opoios qelei na brei prosxhmata, mporei na parermhneysei ayta poy leei h kybernhsh. Ayta poy leei synexws h kybernhsh, opws eipe o Prwqypoyrgos xqes, me ton idio tropo, xwris allages apo th synedriash ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs ths Neas Dhmokratias prin apo tis ekloges, an qymamai kala thn hmeromhnia, nomizw htan 23h Aygoystoy mexri kai shmera to prwi poy topoqethqhke o armodios Ypoyrgos.

KAKALHS: Kat` arxhn, moy epitrepete na apanthsw panw s` ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, na apanthsete den mporeite. Erwthseis mporeite na kanete.

KAKALHS: Mia erwthsh na kanw. Ta tria ``den'' poy eipe o k. Magginas shmera den exoyn kamia sxesh me ta tria ``den'' poy elege proeklogika o Prwqypoyrgos. Ta tria ``den'' toy k. Maggina aforoyn ta genika oria hlikias, pragma poy den eixe pei o Prwqypoyrgos proeklogika, afora th mh meiwsh twn nyn syntajewn, oxi aytwn poy qa doqoyn ayrio...

ANTWNAROS: Den mporei na exei kapoios mia syntajh thn opoia den exei ayth th stigmh.

KAKALHS: Nai, alla prokeitai na meiwqoyn oi syntajeis mesw ths enopoihshs twn Tameiwn me diaforoys alloys tropoys.

ANTWNAROS: Leme kai h kybernhsh akribws ta idia pragmata. Den exei allajei apolytws tipote. An exete kapoia diaforetikh ermhneia, exete fysika dikaiwma na kanete thn ermhneia thn opoia epilegete. H kybernhsh exei staqerh qesh. Pisteyei oti to Asfalistiko den endeiknytai ws qema gia mikropolitikh antiparaqesh. Pisteyei, opws exoyme pei kai alles fores, oti oi qeseis ths einai pentakaqares, oti oi qeseis ths, oi apoceis ths, oi protaseis ths, oi opoies einai anoiktes se dialogo gia osoys bebaiws proserxontai sto dialogo, einai ekeines oi opoies qa ejasfalisoyn se baqos xronoy tis syntajeis gia oloys toys Ellhnes ergazomenoys, gia oloys toys Ellhnes polites.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, gia na mhn yparxoyn parermhneies kai sygxyseis pote epiteloys h kybernhsh qa kataqesei ena oloklhrwmeno sygkekrimeno grapto keimeno me tis protaseis ths gia thn epilysh toy Asfalistikoy.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei kataqesei, dia toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy k. Maggina, kai toy epishs paristamenoy Ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Alogoskoyfh sygkekrimenes protaseis, sygkekrimenes qeseis stoys treis kykloys, oi opoies syzhthqhkan sth Boylh. Sas parapempw na tis diabasete. Peran apo ayto, den exw na pw kati allo.

KAKALHS: O k. Zagoriths eipe oti akoma kai to 20% h 30% na pairname apo ta ygih Tameia, den qa eixame kanena problhma. Mhpws h kybernhsh, se deyterh fash, skeftetai na afairesei to 20% kai 30% twn porwn kai twn apoqetikwn twn ygiwn Tameiwn, gia na ta katasthsei kai ayta problhmatika;

ANTWNAROS: H qesh ths kybernhshs einai apolytws safhs. Den exw na prosqesw kati allo se ayto to qema.

ARMENHS: Pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh thn protash toy Proedroy ths GSEE na diejaxqei parallhlos koinwnikos dialogos; Mia protash h opoia brhke symfwno ton Proedro toy SEB.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh kalei pantote se dialogo. H kybernhsh einai ekeinh h opoia phre thn prwtoboylia toy dialogoy. H kybernhsh einai ekeinh h opoia kalese se dialogo kai ta politika kommata kai toys koinwnikoys etairoys. O dialogos, kata thn apoch ths kybernhshs, o sygkekrimenos dialogos, prepei na ginei sta plaisia ths Boylhs. Gi` ayto kai toys kalese na proselqoyn sth Boylh, afoy h Boylh einai ekeinh h opoia qa nomoqethsei. Akribws gi` ayto oi boyleytes prepei na exoyn to dikaiwma, prepei na exoyn th dynatothta na akoyne tis apoceis olwn twn emplekomenwn pleyrwn. Ean ginetai dialogos ektos Boylhs, ws koinwnikos dialogos, opws eipate, me allh morfh kai aytos o dialogos einai kalodexoymenos. Emeis den exoyme kamia epifylajh na xairetisoyme opoiadhpote morfh dialogoy diejagetai.

KAKALHS: Ep` aytoy: Dialogos sto krebati toy Prokroysth mporei na ginei;

ANTWNAROS: Den katalabainw apolyta aytes tis metaforikes erwthseis poy kanete. Einai bebaio, pantws, oti opoios den proserxetai sto dialogo, den syneisferei epoikodomhtika sthn antimetwpish enos qematos, to opoio einai yparkto kai ayto to gnwrizoyn oloi oi Ellhnes polites.

ROYMELIWTHS: Symfwna me neoteres plhrofories apo to oikonomiko reportaz, oi ayjhseis sta timologia ths DEH qa kymanqoyn apo to 6% ews to 12%. Dhladh, sthn kalyterh periptwsh qa einai diplasies toy plhqwrismoy h akomh kai tetraplasies. Epibebaiwnete aytes tis plhrofories;

ANTWNAROS: Oi plhrofories tis opoies exw egw, ayth th stigmh, einai oti osonoypw, kata pasa piqanothta entos ths hmeras, alla den mporw na to prokatalabw ayth th stigmh, o armodios Ypoyrgos, akoloyqwntas th diadikasia thn opoia sas eixame perigracei thn perasmenh ebdomada se aythn edw thn aiqoysa, o k. Roysopoylos kai egw, qa anakoinwsei thn timologiakh politikh ths DEH. Opws gnwrizete, eixame pei kai thn perasmenh ebdomada oti h dioikhsh ths DEH, h opoia einai mia eishgmenh etaireia sto Xrhmatisthrio, proteinei h Ryqmistikh Arxh Energeias ( RAE ) ekdidei mia sxetikh gnwmodothsh kai to armodio Ypoyrgeio apofasizei gia tis endexomenes ayjhseis twn timologiwn. Eixame pei kai tote kai to epanalambanw kai shmera, gia mia akomh fora, oti opoiesdhpote anatimhseis, prosarmoges twn timologiwn, ejetazontai apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio, me gnwmona panta to leitoyrgiko kostos ths etaireias kai tis mikroteres dynates epibarynseis gia toys katanalwtes kai to koinwniko synolo. Sas ypenqymizw oti xqes, kata th diarkeia ths omilias toy sth Boylh, ekane anafora se ayto to qema kai o armodios Ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs k. Fwlias. To lew gia osoys den htan parontes kai den to exoyn ypoch toys.

ARMENHS: O k. Mperns kalese ta Skopia na kalycoyn to miso dromo kai na apodexqoyn synqeth onomasia gia to qema ths PGDM. Hqela na rwthsw, pws ajiologei h kybernhsh ayth thn kinhsh toy k. Mperns, dedomenoy oti - apo o,ti fainetai- o k. Mperns alla leei otan milaei me toys Ellhnes, alla leei otan milaei me toys Skopianoys. Pws qa ton pistecoyn;

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh pleyra, opws gnwrizete, metexei me epoikodomhtiko pneyma kai me stoxo thn epilysh toy sygkekrimenoy qematos, sto dialogo, stis synennohseis, oi opoies ginontai katw apo th skeph twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn. Exw pei kai alles fores oti ayth th stigmh briskomaste se ena eyaisqhto, poly lepto shmeio aytwn twn synennohsewn kai den einai skopimo na topoqethqei kaneis me perissoteres leptomereies. Emeis, opws gnwrizete  to epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora- proseggizoyme to qema me epoikodomhtiko pneyma kai me stoxo thn epilysh toy sygkekrimenoy qematos, proaspizontas bebaiws ta eqnika mas symferonta.

KAKALHS: Mhpws h eyaisqhsia kai ta kala logia toy k. Mperns meta to beto poy ebale, meta thn apagoreysh toy beto poy eixe qesei tis prohgoymenes hmeres, syndeetai kai me thn eygnwmosynh poy ejefrase, xqes epishs, gia th stash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai th symmetoxh ths sth diaskech gia to Mesanatoliko sthn Annapolh;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhke gia th symmetoxh ths Elladas sth Diaskech gia to Mesanatoliko, molis proxqes apo ayto edw to bhma, o k. Roysopoylos. Exei topoqethqei, epishs, h ypoyrgos k. Mpakogiannh. To gegonos oti h Ellada eklhqh na metasxei mazi me alles xwres se ayth thn toso shmantikh Diaskech, apodeiknyei to megalo eidiko baros to opoio exei apokthsei h xwra mas kai sto dieqnh xwro.

KAKALHS: Lew mhpws oi desmeyseis, mhpws anelabe kapoies sygkekrimenes desmeyseis kai se antallagma o k. Mperns eipe kapoia kala logia gia to...

ANTWNAROS: Se eikotologikes erwthseis, den mporw na apanthsw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh akoysthkan diafores apoceis gia thn ypoqesh ths proslhchs ths korhs toy Ypoyrgoy Apasxolhshs k. Maggina ston OTE, h kybernhsh den qewrei oti yparxei eite zhthma nomimothtas, eite qema politiko, eite hqiko gi` ayth thn ypoqesh;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epishs, gia tis kataggelies poy kanei o k. Karximakhs shmera, analoges kataggelies, gia na synexisw na kanw to synhgoro toy diaboloy, sxetika me kapoio symboylo ston OPAP o opoios ameibetai yperogka me ena poso 36.000 eyrw, ean den kanw laqos.

ANTWNAROS: Ennoeite erwthsh thn opoia kateqese o k. Karximakhs sth Boylh;

PALAIOLOGOS: Akribws. Qa moy peite oti yparxei h koinoboyleytikh diadikasia.

ANTWNAROS: Oi erwthseis, opws gnwrizete, apantwntai dia ths gnwsths koinoboyleytikhs odoy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oyte ayto, qelw na pw, den yparxei hqiko (den akoygetai) gia thn kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

KAKALHS: Akoysate tipota gia baria prostima poy epiblhqhkan gia to kartel toy galaktos;

ANTWNAROS: Dhmosiografikes plhrofories akoysa. Den exw ypoch moy kamia epishmh anakoinwsh. Synepws, den mporw na to sxoliasw.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.


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