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Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-04-28

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 28.4.1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn afhse na perasei enas mhnas gia na anakoinwsei aytes tis toyrkikes apeiles gia ta tessera nhsia h pente, yparxei ki ena pempto nomizw.

REPPAS: Giati einai enas idiaitera ypeyqynos politikos kai oi xeirismoi toys opoioys ekane eprepe na einai apotelesmatikoi kai apodeixqhke oti htan apotelesmatikoi. Prepei na sas pw oti to qema ayto eteqh sthn Ellhnikh Kybernhsh, otan ekproswpos ths presbeias mas sthn Agkyra episkeptomenos to toyrkiko Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, prokeimenoy na diatypwsei diamartyries gia toyrkikes parabaseis kai parabiaseis, edexqh diamartyria twn Toyrkwn gia ta programmata ta opoia prowqoyntai se diafores perioxes sto Aigaio, se nhsia kai nhsides. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh apanthse. Kalese sthn Aqhna, th Megalh Tetarth, ekproswpo ths toyrkikhs presbeias kai diamartyrhqhke gi' ayth th qesh ths toyrkikhs kybernhshs. Thn epomenh hmera, Megalh Pempth, enhmerwse toys presbeis twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. H enhmerwsh synexisthke amesws meta to Pasxa. Gnwstopoihqhkan oi qeseis mas stoys presbeis twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn kai ths Rwsias. Ara, eixame kanei oles tis endedeigmenes energeies, thn katallhlh stigmh, prokeimenoy na probaloyme ta epixeirhmata mas kai na diatypwsoyme th dysforia kai thn antirrhsh mas gia th stash ths Toyrkias, oson afora to sygkekrimeno qema. Enocei toy Symboylioy sto opoio symmeteixe o k. Pagkalos -telikws gnwrizete poia einai h ejelijh ayths ths synedriashs- proetoimasame ena mnhmonio, to opoio o k. Pagkalos, epedwse stoys synadelfoys toy. Logiko einai oloi aytoi oi xeirismoi na ginoyn me ypeyqyno kai cyxraimo tropo. Den qa eprepe na kanoyme ejwterikh politikh mesw dhmosiwn anakoinwsewn, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme to stoxo mas. Anadeijame sto teleytaio Symboylio me ta epixeirhmata mas thn politikh poy akoloyqoyme kai katadeijame thn eyqynh poy exei h Toyrkia, h opoia me th stash ths epidiwkei na synthrei thn entash sthn perioxh kai na dhmioyrgei synexws nees kriseis stis sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn. Oi energeies, loipon, eginan thn katallhlh stigmh kai me ton katallhlo tropo. To oti den eginan dhmosiws gnwstes aytes oi energeies den shmainei oti den yphrjan energeies. Allwste swsta exei eipwqei gia analoga fainomena "h Amerikh yphrje prin thn anakalycei o Kolombos". Apla orismena qemata eginan twra gnwsta, giati thn krisimh wra poy sxediazeis na antimetwpiseis kai na probaleis ena qema, den exeis kanena logo na kaneis dhmosies anakoinwseis. Meta thn ejelijh twn pragmatwn gnwrizete poio einai to apotelesma. Den yparxei, loipon, opoiosdhpote logos na dexetai kritikh h Kybernhsh gia kaqysterhsh h gia adiafaneia h gia xeirismoys oi opoioi ekfrazoyn ta eqnika symferonta. Isa-isa oi kinhseis oi opoies eginan, htan idiaitera apotelesmatikes. Ayto apodeiknyetai sthn prajh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Enhmerwsate, lete, olo ton kosmo ektos apo toys politikoys arxhgoys twn allwn kommatwn. Den eprepe na toys enhmerwsete; Ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias den eprepe na ton enhmerwsete;

REPPAS: H epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias einai taktikh. Egine prosfata kai qa epanalhfqei. Oi politikoi arxhgoi exoyn th dynatothta, ana pasa stigmh, efoson deixnoyn endiaferon gia megalhs shmasias qemata, na episkeptontai ton Prwqypoyrgo kai na exoyn apolyth enhmerwsh. Parakalw mh bgazete symperasmata. H ejwterikh politikh, ta trexonta qemata, kai ena apo ayta einai kai to sygkekrimeno, antimetwpizontai apo toys armodioys politikoys kai yphresiakoys paragontes me ton kalytero tropo. Ayto einai poy exei shmasia. Oxi h dhmioyrgia entypwsewn. Kai bebaiws, yparxei mia diafora: Epidiwkoyme na kanoyme swsta th doyleia mas kai na exoyme to eqnikws wfelimo kai aparaithto apotelesma kai oxi na dhmioyrgoyme entypwseis. Eseis twra milate se ena epipedo to opoio exei sxesh me thn eikona kai tis entypwseis. Den qa symfwnhsoyme kai den qa sympesoyme pote. Ara kinoymaste se dyo diaforetika epipeda. Oi kinhseis, loipon, eginan thn katallhlh stigmh kai me ton endedeigmeno tropo. Den yparxei opoiodhpote allo qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H erwthsh moy einai giati den enhmerwsate toys arxhgoys twn politikwn kommatwn.

REPPAS: Oi politikoi arxhgoi ana pasa stigmh kai gia opoiodhpote qema mporoyn na enhmerwqoyn. Oydeis politikos arxhgos phre thn prwtoboylia na zhthsei apo ton Prwqypoyrgo enhmerwsh gia polla qemata ths epikairothtas, ta opoia gnwrizoyn oi politikoi arxhgoi.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta gnwrizan;

REPPAS: Ta gnwrizoyn oi politikoi arxhgoi, giati allwste, an dextoyme oti den ta gnwrizoyn, qa prepei na toys kathgorhsoyme gia aneyqynothta, efoson bgainoyn kai kataggelloyn thn Kybernhsh kai antidroyn me tetoia eykolia enantion ths Kybernhshs gia qemata ta opoia, kata th dikh sas ekdoxh, den gnwrizoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas erwtw: Gnwrizan oi politikoi arxhgoi ayto to qema;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw ti gnwrizoyn oi politikoi arxhgoi. Gnwrizw oti den zhthsan na enhmerwqoyn apo ton Prwqypoyrgo. Qa einai sth diaqesh toys h Kybernhsh, opote kai ekeinoi to epiqymoyn. O kyklos ths enhmerwshs twn politikwn arxhgwn einai pantote anoixtos. Den yparxei opoiodhpote qema to opoio na dhmioyrgei problhma sta eqnika symferonta, opws to qesate sthn arxh me to erwthma sas. Isa-isa oi kinhseis poy eginan, htan, qa elega, idiaitera swstes, apotelesmatikes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den moy apantate, an to gnwrizan oi politikoi arxhgoi.

REPPAS: Qa apanthsw ek meroys twn politikwn arxhgwn; Den qa sas apanthsw ek meroys twn politikwn arxhgwn. Egw den exw kanena logo. Einai dynaton na gnwrizw egw ti gnwrizoyn oi politikoi arxhgoi; Egw milw ek meroys ths Kybernhshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tote pws qa sas zhtoysan synanthsh, ama krybete ta qemata eseis;

REPPAS: Xrhsimopoieite mia lejh h opoia einai idiaiterws atyxhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: To apokrycate.

REPPAS: Otan mia xwra askei ejwterikh politikh kai qelei na diasfalisei kai na proaspisei ta symferonta ths, fantazomai na to epitrepete, toylaxiston se orismenes periptwseis san th sygkekrimenh, na kanei xeirismoys oi opoioi den prepei na doyn to fws ths dhmosiothtas. An den ginontai katallhloi xeirismoi, na dextoyme kritikh. Alla, otan ginontai swstoi xeirismoi kai diatypwnetai h kathgoria enantion ths Kybernhshs, oti den eginan gnwstoi se sas oi xeirismoi aytoi, den einai yperbolikh kai adikh h kathgoria poy diatypwnetai; Oson afora toys politikoys arxhgoys, epanalambanw, h Kybernhsh einai sth diaqesh toys ana pasa stigmh. Den zhthsan enhmerwsh. Yparxoyn polla qemata gia ta opoia miloyn kai epi twn opoiwn mporoyn na zhthsoyn enhmerwsh. Pws gnwrizoyn epi olwn aytwn twn qematwn kai kathgoroyn thn Kybernhsh, xwris na exoyn epidiwjei -kata th dikh sas ekdoxh panta- na gnwrizoyn poia einai ta qemata, poia einai ta stoixeia, ta opoia sygkrotoyn ta megala zhthmata ths xwras, prokeimenoy etsi ki ekeinoi na dieykolynqoyn sto politiko ergo toys kai na diatypwnoyn thn kritikh toys enantion ths Kybernhshs, exontas syzhthsei kai exontas ypoch toys pleon sygkekrimena dedomena;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta eixe apokrycei h Kybernhsh.

REPPAS: Ayth einai h dikh sas entypwsh, h dikh sas antilhch. Den exw kamia amfibolia oti den prokeitai na deite qetika tipota apo ayta ta opoia kanei h Kybernhsh. En pash periptwsei, den einai dynaton na symfwnoyme oloi. Epiqymoyme ayto to opoio kanoyme na einai xrhsimo kai wfelimo gia to eqnos. Kai epiqymoyme ayth h wfeleia h opoia prokyptei, na ginetai antilhpth -kai ginetai- apo thn pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy. An eseis anhkete s' aythn h oxi, einai kati poy emas den mas apasxolei. Einai kati to opoio afora th xwra kai ton ellhniko lao kai en pash periptwsei h Kybernhsh einai desmia ths entolhs poy exei apo ton ellhniko lao, na prowqhsei ta eqnika symferonta. Oxi na enhmerwnei kapoioys, akomh ki an h enhmerwsh ayth odhgei se yponomeysh twn eqnikwn symferontwn. Toso o Prwqypoyrgos, oso kai oi politikoi arxhgoi exoyn thn analogh eyqynh, opws kai oi Ypoyrgoi kai ta alla politika stelexh, wste na xeirizontai me orqo tropo ta qemata ths armodiothtas toys. Pisteyw, loipon, oti mporoyn na antapokriqoyn s' ayta ta kaqhkonta toys, xwris na xreiazontai th dikh mas -twn tritwn ennow- yposthrijh h th bohqeia.

KIAOS: Aisqanqhke, anejarthtws twn allwn pragmatwn poy eipate, thn anagkh h Kybernhsh apo monh ths na kalesei toys arxhgoys twn kommatwn kai na toys enhmerwsei;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh eixe ena plhrh sxediasmo, enocei toy Symboylioy twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn, opoy o k. Pagkalos qa ekane gnwstes tis ellhnikes qeseis, apantwntas stis toyrkikes aitiaseis. H Kybernhsh den qewrhse xrhsimo, se ayth th fash, s' ayto to stadio, na proxwrhsei se opoiadhpote gnwstopoihsh stoixeiwn toy qematos aytoy sthn koinh gnwmh h se alloys paragontes ths dhmosias zwhs. KIAOS: Qewreite, dhladh -ayto poy eipate prohgoymenws peri yponomeysews twn eqnikwn symferontwn an ebgainan paraejw- oti apo thn enhmerwsh twn Arxhgwn qa mporoysan na bgoyn pragmata sth dhmosiothta;

REPPAS: Sas prolaba kai apanthsa prin. Eipa oti o Prwqypoyrgos kai oi politikoi Arxhgoi exoyn thn analogh eyqynh, wste na xeirizontai me orqo tropo ta qemata ths armodiothtas toys. Mh dhmioyrgoyntai, loipon, entypwseis.

KIAOS: Kai mia allh dieykrinish: Poios htan o stoxos ths Kybernhshs, poy eipate prohgoymenws "na ejyphrethqei o stoxos me toys xeirismoys aytoys" k.lp. An mporeite na ton perigracete kai na ton prosdiorisete;

REPPAS: Epeidh akribws, mas endiefere ayto to shmantiko qema na to paroysiasoyme ws kentriko stoixeio ths ejwterikhs politikhs mas se ena epipedo koryfhs, opws einai to epipedo to opoio synista mia synedriash Symboylioy Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn, eprepe ekei to prwton na qesoyme to qema. Gi ayto akribws o politikos sxediasmos kai oi xeirismoi poy eginan odhghsan sto na eimaste, me peistiko kai emperistatwmeno tropo, parontes se ayth th diadikasia, anaptyssontas ta epixeirhmata mas. Ayto kaname.

KIAOS: To stoxo sas rwthsa egw.

REPPAS: Ma, aytos einai o stoxos. To qema ayto na to qesoyme to prwton se ena tetoio koryfaio organo prokeimenoy na toy dwsoyme thn analogh ajia poy exei, epeidh einai kentriko shmeio sthn askoymenh ejwterikh politikh. Qelame ekei to prwton na teqei ayto to qema. Qa mporoysame na steiloyme epistoles apo prin, qa mporoysame na kanoyme anakoinwseis. Epilejame na qesoyme to qema se ena Symboylio Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn, me thn paroysia toy k. Pagkaloy, o opoios eixe th dynatothta na anaptyjei tis qeseis mas.

BITSENTZOY: Egw, kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na katalabw poio einai to neo stoixeio sta gegonota poy mas perigracate edw. Qelw na pw, dhladh, einai h epanafora ek meroys twn Toyrkwn, ths qewrias twn "gkrizwn zwnwn" poy anazwpyrwqhke me aformh th lista ths kas Papazwh gia anaptyjh orismenwn nhsidwn h yphrje diabhma twn Toyrkwn gia prosgeiwsh ellhnikwn elikopterwn se kapoia sygkekrimena nhsia, poia einai ayta kai an htan se gnwsh toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy;

REPPAS: Sthn episkech poy ekane o ekproswpos ths ellhnikhs presbeias sthn Agkyra, o k. Koygioy, gia na diamartyrhqei gia tis toyrkikes drasthriothtes, tis paranomes drasthriothtes, toy eipwqhke pragmati oti kai h Ellada anaptyssei drasthriothtes se kapoia nhsia. Metajy twn allwn me thn prosgeiwsh elikopterwn se kapoio apo ayta. Ayth h diamartyria anaptyxqhke proforika, apo ton ekproswpo toy toyrkikoy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn kai apetelese thn aitia gia thn ellhnikh antidrash, gia th dikh mas proetoimasia, prokeimenoy na anadeijoyme, gia mia akomh fora, thn epimonh ths Toyrkias se mia epiqetikh kai proklhtikh politikh enantion ths xwras mas. Oi plhrofories aytes, oi opoies perihlqan, bebaiws, kai sthn hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, ajiopoihqhkan me ton kalytero tropo, epeidh -metajy twn allwn- diablecame oti enocei ths meqayrianhs Synodoy Koryfhs, isws epanalhfqei to prohgoymeno ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy Loyjemboyrgoy, opoy h Toyrkia me meqodiko tropo epixeirhse na dhmioyrghsei mia entypwsh sth dieqnh koinh gnwmh, gia thn dhqen kakh stash ths Elladas, oson afora tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, gia th dhqen proklhtikh symperifora ths xwras mas, anadeiknyontas diafora tetoia qemata, ws meizona problhmata stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis. Emeis apanthsame -epanalambanw- me enhmerwsh poy dwsame armodiws kai qesame to qema ayto, proxqes, sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn.

POYLIDOY: O k. Tsoxatzopoylos htan enhmeros, den to apanthsate ayto;

REPPAS: Yparxei epikoinwnia twn ypoyrgeiwn. H Kybernhsh exei mia ypostash. Mhn anazhtate kaqe fora, an einai enas paragontas ths Kybernhshs enhmerwmenos perissotero apo kapoion allo. Yparxoyn armodies yphresies poy xeirizontai ta qemata ta opoia empiptoyn sth dikh toys armodiothta.

BITSENTZOY: Qymaste na mas peite se poia nhsia diamartyrontai oi Toyrkoi gia prosgeiwsh ellhnikwn elikopterwn;

REPPAS: Einai ta nhsia ta opoia anagrafontai kai ston Typo shmera.

BITSENTZOY: Oi Foyrnoi k.lp.;

REPPAS: Malista.

POYLIDOY: Ta idia einai, dhladh; Gia ta idia ginetai o kaygas;

REPPAS: Ayta einai. Einai mia epanalhch ths gnwsths politikhs ths Toyrkias, ths qewrias peri "gkrizwn zwnwn" thn opoia aneptyje to prwton edw kai arketoys mhnes. Mporei kapoios na ektimhsei oti h politikh ayth ths Toyrkias ekfrazei th diaqesh ths na meinei makran ths Eyrwphs, giati fainetai oti tetoioy eidoys entaseis prokyptoyn kaqws einai se ejelijh prospaqeies, prokeimenoy na yparjei proseggish metajy ths E.E. kai ths Toyrkias. Einai kapoia kentra sthn Toyrkia; Einai h politikh ths Toyrkias ayth; Kanoyn ta panta wste na mhn epiteyxqei ayth h proseggish. Dynamitizoyn, dhladh, kaqe tetoia prooptikh, wste na parameinei telika h Toyrkia makran ths E.E. Ayto einai to apotelesma poy menei. Emeis epiqymoyme proseggish ths Toyrkias me thn E.E., alla, bebaiws, den einai dynaton na epiteyxqei toyto me bash thn politikh poy akoloyqei h Toyrkia mexri twra.

SOYRMELH: Eixate pei sthn arxh apantwntas se erwthsh synadelfoy oti h diamartyria ths toyrkikhs Kybernhshs aforoyse to programma poy prowqoyse h Ellada se nhsia kai nhsides. Ap' o,ti katalaba, xqes, o k. Pagkalos, milhse sygkekrimena gi ayta ta tessera nhsia, to Agaqonhsi, to Farmakonhsi, toys Foyrnoys kai thn Cerimo. Einai ta mona nhsia toy programmatos; Den yparxoyn alla; Ayta ta nhsia einai mesa sto programma.

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti ta nhsia einai ayta ta opoia anagrafontai shmera ston Typo. Yparxei kai ena akomh, pempto, to opoio anaferqhke me thn toyrkikh onomasia toy kai to gnwrizoyn ekeinoi, oi opoioi ypoqetoyn oti toys anhkei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poio einai;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizoyme poio einai. Anaferqhke ena toyrkiko onoma Kara Anta, an metaferw kalws th lejh ayth, h opoia eipwqhke shmera.

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Mayronhsi. "Anta" shmainei nhsi kai "kara" mayro.

REPPAS: As kleisoyme ayth thn parenqesh.

KIAOS: Poio nhsi einai ayto;

REPPAS: Apo kei kai pera, ayto poy rwthse h ka Bitsentzoy, exei bash. Diatypwqhke mia diamartyria gia thn pthsh ekei elikopteroy ths Polemikhs Aeroporias. Kai bebaiws to qema ths hpias toyristikhs anaptyjhs, mesw oikologikwn programmatwn se diafora nhsia kai nhsides, einai ena qema to opoio kai oi Toyrkoi exoyn dhlwsei oti toys apasxolei kai malista exoyn ekfrasei me ekproswpoys toys dhmosiws diafores qeseis. Alla ta nhsia gia ta opoia egine diamartyria h eteqh, sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, to qema, einai ayta ta tessera nhsia ta opoia anagrafontai shmera, syn ena akomh me thn onomasia thn opoia sta toyrkika anegracan oi Toyrkoi.

KIAOS: Sta ellhnika pws einai h onomasia ayth;

REPPAS: Kaneis den gnwrizei.

KIAOS: Eseis poy lete to toyrkiko onoma den gnwrizete...

REPPAS: Kaneis den gnwrizei. Mayronhsi; Poio einai ayto to Mayronhsi qa prepei oi idioi na mas to poyn.

KIAOS: Ma einai etsi, Mayronhsi, h metafrash einai ayth;

REPPAS: Den jerw. Kyrie Kiao sas parakalw poly! Gnwrizoyme gia ta tessera nhsia, epeidh blepw na ginetai ki ayto antikeimeno eirwneias adikws, gia na deite poses fores yparxei yperbolh.

KIAOS: Apo poion;

REPPAS: Kai apo merida toy Typoy. Gia ta tessera onomata einai eykolo na entopisoyme poia einai h anafora twn Toyrkwn, doqentos oti gia ta tessera nhsia poy anagrafontai shmera ston Typo, gnwrizoyme poia einai h onomasia poy xrhsimopoioyn oi Toyrkoi. Gia to pempto xrhsimopoihqhke mia onomasia h opoia den gnwrizoyme pws metaferetai sta ellhnika.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den rwthse o presbhs;

REPPAS: Ayto eleipe na mpoyme se dialogo me toys Toyrkoys, gia na maqoyme poia nhsia mas amfisbhtoyn. Den rwthse kai ekane poly kala.

POYLIDOY: Se allo qema: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw an exete dieykrinisei ws ellhnikh Kybernhsh poies htan oi diatypwseis tis opoies akoloyqhse o k. Atantzali proxqes, anaferomenos sto Kypriako. An dhladh, eystaqei h diatypwsh poy doqhke apo ena jeno praktoreio oti h anagnwrish toy ceydokratoys den apotelei proypoqesh gia symmetoxh toy Raoyf Ntenktas stis synomilies h an isxyei h diatypwsh thn opoia edwse to "Anatoloy" poy htan pros thn antiqeth kateyqynsh.

REPPAS: Fainetai oti yparxei mia mikrh metabolh, an apodidontai orqa oi dhlwseis twn Toyrkwn ajiwmatoyxwn. Sthn arxh, pragmatika, h anagnwrish eqewreito ek twn wn oyk aney proypoqesh, prokeimenoy na epanelqei stis synomilies o k. Ntenktas. Argotera, diatypwqhke mia qesh oti ayto apotelei ena shmantiko stoixeio kai den einai aparaithth proypoqesh. Emeis epiqymoyme na arxisoyn kai pali oi synomilies twn dyo pleyrwn. Symballoyme pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Isws h metagenesterh topoqethsh na apotelei kapoio mhnyma oti einai dynaton ta pragmata na ejelixqoyn s' ayth thn kateyqynsh. Kai o k. Klhridhs ejefrase ayth thn oionei aisiodojia toy. Nomizw oti h Toyrkia kai o k. Ntenktas qa prepei, meta tis pieseis poy profanws exoyn askhqei, na antilhfqoyn oti den mporoyn na krybontai gia para poly kairo. Qa prepei na kaqisoyn sto trapezi twn syzhthsewn kai na symbaloyn ki ekeinoi, wste entos taktoy xronikoy diasthmatos na exoyme sygkekrimeno apotelesma. Ayth einai h prospaqeia thn opoia kanei h Kypriakh Kybernhsh. Kai h ellhnikh Kybernhsh einai apolyta eyqygrammismenh sthn prospaqeia ths.

KYRIAKIDOY: Epitrecte moy na syndesw ta dyo ayta qemata. H kainoyrgia ayth entash poy exei fanei me to qema twn nhsiwn, den ephreazei kai tis ejelijeis sto Kypriako;

REPPAS: Exoyme pei, kat' epanalhch -panta to leme- oti einai ena eidos sygkoinwnoyntwn doxeiwn. Asfalws, oi ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis ephreazoyn tis ejelijeis sto Kypriako, xwris ayto na shmainei oti qa prepei na syndeoyme, kata eyqygrammo tropo, tis ejelijeis ston ena tomea me tis ejelijeis ston allo. Qa prepei to Kypriako, poy exei thn aytonomia toy ws qema, na antimetwpistei sth bash twn diadikasiwn poy einai kai se sas gnwstes -einai oi apofaseis toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn kai oi Symfwnies Koryfhs, einai oi kales yphresies poy prosferei o Dieqnhs Paragwn, einai h diaqesh ths Kypriakhs Kybernhshs kai toy Proedroy k. Klhridh- prokeimenoy na antimetwpistei to problhma ayto poy paramenei anoikto edw kai para polla xronia. Asfalws, h ojynsh stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis ephreazei dysmenws kai to Kypriako. Gi' ayto epiqymoyme na antimetwpistei ayth h ojynsh stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, me bash mia synennohsh h opoia qa ginei metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias sth bash twn Kanonwn toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy. Exoyme anaptyjei mia plhrh protash gia ola ayta ta qemata. Elpizoyme, estw kai arga, na eisakoystei h protash ayth.

KYRIAKIDOY: Se allo qema, se synexeia me ta xqesina, ta ths draxmhs poy mas eipate, exei skopo h Ellada sth Synodo Koryfhs toy Sabbatokyriakoy na zhthsei na entaxqei sthn ONE, enwritera apo to stoxo poy exei dhlwsei kat' epanalhch h Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: O stoxos poy exoyme qesei sas einai gnwstos kai paramenei o idios. H politikh mas ston tomea ayto den allazei. Prepei na pw oti den tiqetai qema allaghs ths isotimias toy nomismatos mas. Epeidh polla akoygontai tis teleytaies hmeres, prepei na sas pw oti den tiqetai qema allaghs kai twn isotimiwn metajy twn nomismatwn twn xwrwn poy qa entaxqoyn sthn ONE kai poly perissotero, den tiqetai qema allaghs ths isotimias ths draxmhs me ta jena nomismata. Ola ayta, isws diakinoyntai ws plhrofories ek toy ponhroy. Kalo einai na eimaste para poly prosektikoi kai na yperaspistoyme to symferon ths xwras, to opoio metajy twn allwn, periexei kai th staqerothta ths isotimias toy nomismatos mas. Prepei na sas pw oti h apofash poy phrame gia thn entajh sto Mhxanismo Synallagmatikwn Isotimiwn, htan mia ypeyqynh apofash, mia dyskolh apofash gia ena poly jexwristo qema. Oi ejelijeis exoyn dikaiwsei ayth thn epilogh. H epilogh mas gia thn entajh sth b' fash ths ONE paramenei staqerh. Den exoyme kanena logo na epidiwjoyme thn entajh mas sthn a' fash, kati, poy peran twn allwn, mporei na odhgoyse se dysmeneis synepeies gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia kai th xwra mas genikotera. Exoyme apolyth epignwsh twn dyskoliwn. H entajh ayth, gnwrizoyme oti den qa ginei mesw politikwn diapragmateysewn, oyte me diadikasies aytomatismoy, epeidh entaxqhkame sto Mhxanismo Synallagmatikwn Isotimiwn. Qa einai apotelesma diapragmateysewn me bash oikonomika krithria, ta opoia isxysan kai gia tis alles xwres. Enteinoyme thn prospaqeia mas, prokeimenoy na ekplhrwsoyme aytes tis proypoqeseis, ayta ta krithria, wste thn krisimh ekeinh wra, na entaxqoyme sthn ONE. Ayth einai h politikh mas.

FILHS: Ep' aytoy k. Ypoyrge: H ellhnikh Kybernhsh exei desmeyqei na ypobalei ena neo programma sygklishs poy na lambanei ypoch thn pragmatikothta, opws einai gnwsth, meta thn ypotimhsh ths draxmhs. Fantazomai oti syntoma qa thn ypobalei, qa thn ypobalei entos toy Maioy. Ean -ypoqeseis kanoyme- h ellhnikh Kybernhsh katorqwsei na antapokriqei stoys stoxoys poy exei qesei gia to dianyomeno etos kai, opws egrafh stis efhmerides, mporesei kai piasei to 2,7 toy AEP gia to dhmosio elleimma, aytes einai proypoqeseis poy anatrepoyn th qesh oti h Ellada epidiwkei na entaxqei sth b' fash, afoy qa exei hdh katorqwsei apo thn prwth stigmh na antapokriqei sta krithria toy Maastrixt;

REPPAS: Einai mia desmh krithriwn poy prepei na lhfqei ypoch, prokeimenoy na entaxqoyme sthn ONE. Gnwrizete oti h prwth fash apexei apo th deyterh fash liga xronia. Den einai dynato na entaxqoyme sthn a' fash, akomh ki an ekplhrwsoyme sto telos toy 1998 ta krithria ayta, pragma arketa dyskolo, alla xairomai poy ekfrazete mia aisiodojia...

FILHS: Gia to Programma Sygklishs.

REPPAS: Nai. Prepei na pw oti h anaprosarmogh ayth toy Programmatos Sygklishs, h opoia bebaiws einai se ejelijh, qa problepei ayta ta nea oikonomika dedomena, prokeimenoy na fanoyme synepeis stis ypoxrewseis poy exoyme analabei kai stoys stoxoys poy exoyme qesei. Pisteyoyme oti sto synolo twn krithriwn aytwn, otan erqei h krisimh stigmh, qa eimaste arketa synepeis, wste na prokriqoyme ki emeis kai na entaxqoyme sthn ONE, epilogh poy apotelei kentriko stoxo gia thn politikh poy akoloyqei h Kybernhsh.

FILHS: Gia to Programma Sygklishs yparxoyn kapoia stoixeia poy mporeite na mas dwsete twra, na mas plhroforhsete, epeidh synartatai kai me th syzhthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, meqayrio, sth Synodo Koryfhs.

REPPAS: Den yparxei kanena stoixeio to opoio na prosferetai ayth thn wra pros dhmosia syzhthsh. Einai kati poy apasxolei ta armodia Ypoyrgeia. Yparxei mia synergasia me tis antistoixes yphresies ths E.E. Prepei na pw oti ayth einai mia doyleia thn opoia qa kanoyn oi empeirognwmones kai oi texnokrates se ena prwto stadio kai apo ekei kai pera qa lhfqoyn oi politikes apofaseis. Qa doqei dhladh, h telikh diamorfwsh toy keimenoy apo toys armodioys politikoys paragontes.

FILHS: Poio einai to xroniko orio poy qa ypoblhqei ayto to programma;

REPPAS: As mhn anaferqoyme se sygkekrimenes hmeromhnies. Einai qema ligoy xronoy.

KARELIAS: Ti prosdoka h ti epidiwkei -an epidiwkei kati jexwristo- h Kybernhsh apo th Synodo ths 2as Maioy.

REPPAS: Apanthsa s' ayto to qema thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, poy teqhke sxetikh erwthsh. Emeis metexoyme s' ayth th diadikasia gia profaneis politikoys logoys. Eimaste xwra-melos ths E.E. Exoyme epiprosqetws endiaferon na entaxqoyme, sto epomeno stadio, sthn ONE. Kai qeloyme na parakoloyqhsoyme pws ejelissetai h diadikasia ayth ths Eyrwpaikhs Enopoihshs metajy twn xwrwn poy exoyn ekplhrwsei aytes tis proypoqeseis. Ayto to opoio anamenoyme, einai na epibebaiwqei, prwta ap' ola, h boylhsh twn xwrwn ths E.E., na proxwrhsei ayth h diadikasia ths E.E.. Deyteron, na anagnwristei h prospaqeia thn opoia kanoyn oles oi xwres -kai h Ellada- kaqws h politikh poy akoloyqeitai kineitai s' ayth thn kateyqynsh. Symballei, dhladh, sto na entaxqoyn oi xwres ths shmerinhs E.E sthn ayrianh ONE. Kai bebaiws, qa paroysiasoyme ta apotelesmata ths dikhs mas politikhs kai o,ti prokycei, einai kalodexoymeno. Enas logos o opoios anagnwrizei thn prospaqeia poy kanei h Kybernhsh kai ta apotelesmata ta opoia exoyme epityxei, einai enas logos enqarryntikos na synexisoyme ayth thn prospaqeia. Alla, den einai ayto kentriko shmeio, to opoio mporei na pei kaneis oti kaqorizei thn politikh kai oikonomikh poreia ths xwras.

SOYRMELH: Meta th dialeykansh ths epiqeshs kata toy Nighrianoy proponhtoy, exei skopo h Kybernhsh na parei kapoia metra antimetwpishs aytwn twn fainomenwn; Pws qa antimetwpisei to qema h Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Kyria Soyrmelh, oi qeseis ths Kybernhshs exoyn ginei apolytws gnwstes, me safhneia kai kaqarothta, oson afora to qema ayto toy ratsismoy, poy apotelei megalo problhma kai plhgh gia tis sygxrones koinwnies. Xairomaste giati oi diwktikes Arxes katorqwsan na syllaboyn ayton poy fainetai oti exei kapoia sxesh me to egklhma. Qa apofanqei h Dikaiosynh gia to baqmo ths eyqynhs toy. Tetoia fainomena einai apokroystika. Den ta apodokimazoyme aplws, alla enteinoyme thn prospaqeia mas na mhn epanalambanontai kai, an einai dynato, na pacoyn na yparxoyn, H Ellhnikh Astynomia kai oi alles armodies yphresies kanoyn o,ti to dynato gia na antimetwpisoyme tetoia fainomena.

Sas eyxaristw.


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