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Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-06-12

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 12 Ioynioy 2000

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw, en taxei, gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy kata tis prosexeis hmeres:

O Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei se ligo to Grammatea ths Neolaias toy PASOK Qanash Mwraith kai argotera, stis 2.30, qa dexqei ton Ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs Mixalh Xrysoxoidh.

Ayrio, stis 10.30 to prwi, qa episkefqei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias. Argotera, stis 12.30, qa proedreysei se synedriash ths diypoyrgikhs epitrophs, me antikeimeno thn proetoimasia ths xwras mas gia thn Olympiada toy 2004. To apogeyma, stis 7, qa proedreysei se synedriash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy toy PASOK.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me antikeimeno syzhthshs thn poreia ths xwras mas pros thn ONE kai thn politikh poy qa akoloyqhsoyme, ws isotimo pleon melos

Thn Pempth, to apogeyma, sto Zappeio Megaro, o Prwqypoyrgos qa ekfwnhsei omilia, sto plaisio ekdhlwshs poy organwnetai me thn eykairia ths entajhs ths xwras sthn ONE. Gia to idio qema, h idia ekdhlwsh synexizetai kai thn epomenh hmera, me th diorganwsh syzhthsewn opoy kybernhtika stelexh kai alloi kratikoi kai koinwnikoi paragontes qa laboyn meros kai qa anadeijoyn ptyxes ths politikhs ths poreias ths xwras mas sthn ONE.

O Prwqypoyrgos exei apeyqynqei stoys politikoys arxhgoys, prokeimenoy thn Paraskeyh na synanthqei mazi toys kai na antallajei apoceis gia to qema ths ONE, enocei ths Synodoy Koryfhs sto Porto ths Portogalias. Oi synanthseis qa ginoyn, me ton k. Karamanlh stis 10.00, me thn k. Paparhga stis 10.45 kai me ton k. Kwnstantopoylo stis 11.30.

Thn Kyriakh, o Prwqypoyrgos, epikefalhs antiproswpeias anaxwrei gia thn Portogalia, gia na labei meros sth Synodo Koryfhs.

O Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy qa ekproswphsei thn kybernhsh sthn khdeia toy Proedroy ths Syrias Xabez Al Assant.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ton k. Stefanopoylo, giati ton blepei;

REPPAS: Einai taktikes oi synanthseis aytes. Gnwrizete poly kala oti h epikoinwnia einai synexhs. Poly perissotero twra poy jekina aytos o kyklos epafwn me toys alloys politikoys arxhgoys, o Prwqypoyrgos epeleje na synanthsei kai pali kai na syzhthsei me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias.

KARELIAS: Apo thn hmera poy eixame th dolofonikh epiqesh kata toy Bretanoy stratiwtikoy akoloyqoy, o prwhn Ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs kai nyn boyleyths toy PASOK Stelios Papaqemelhs exei pei, apeires fores, se pampolla thleoptika diktya kai efhmerides oti ligo prin apoxwrhsei apo to ypoyrgeio, to 1995, eixe paradwsei mia lista me ypoptoys gia thn tromokratia. Epeidh ayto to stoixeio exei kanei to gyro toy kosmoy kai exei ginei antikeimeno ekmetalleyshs sto ejwteriko, mporeite na mas peite ti gnwrizei h kybernhsh ep` aytoy; Ean den qelete na bgei kapoio stoixeio, parakalw na to dieykrinisete.

REPPAS: O k. Papaqemelhs, anaferomenos sth qhteia toy sto Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs, anefere metajy allwn oti epi th analhcei twn kaqhkontwn toy, toy doqhkan stoixeia apo ton prokatoxo toy. Ta stoixeia ayta prowqhse stis armodies kratikes arxes. O armodios eisaggeleas toy Areioy Pagoy exei dhmioyrghsei eidiko fakelo kai exei probei apo tote stis deoyses dikastikes energeies. Den yparxei opoiadhpote allh ejelijh. Profanws, den exei epiteyxqei opoiadhpote proodos, gi` ayto akribws den exoyme ki emeis kapoia allh enhmerwsh gia to qema ayto. Etsi exoyn ta pragmata. Den yparxei otidhpote allo.

KARELIAS: Ayto poy kata kairoys legetai kai grafetai oti oi Amerikanoi exoyn paradwsei stis ellhnikes arxes lista ypoptwn, isxyei;

REPPAS: Den antapokrinetai sta pragmata kati tetoio. Den exoyme ypoch mas opoiadhpote lista ypoptwn, wste na xreiazetai na proboyme se energeies gia na ajiopoihsoyme ayto to ``poly shmantiko stoixeio'' poy dhqen kapoioi mas exoyn eisferei. Den einai etsi ta pragmata.

KARELIAS: Jenes efhmerides, kyriws oi bretanikes, grafoyn oti h Aqhna einai mia apo tis pleon epikindynes poleis ston kosmo. Den aisqanetai h kybernhsh thn anagkh na apanthsei se ayta;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh den aisqanetai thn anagkh na apanthsei se tetoioy eidoys dhmosieymata. H kybernhsh niwqei, opws oloi oi Ellhnes allwste, oti exoyme petyxei na zoyme se synqhkes asfaleias sthn Ellada. Yparxoyn ayta ta memonwmena peristatika, ta opoia, omws, einai memonwmena. Kai apo memonwmena peristatika, den prepei na ejagontai genikeymena symperasmata. H Ellada einai mia xwra, eirhnikh, dhmokratikh, yparxei asfaleia gia toys polites. Den qa prepei, an qelete na sygkrinoyme thn katastash sthn Ellada me alles xwres, na odhgoymaste, etsi epipolaia, se tetoioy eidoys symperasmata. Oi sygkriseis kai monon apodeiknyoyn oti sthn Ellada h katastash einai poly kalyterh se sxesh me thn katastash poy epikratei se alles xwres ths E.E..

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gyrw apo to qema twn onomatwn: oi Amerikanoi epimenoyn, apo to State Department, kai apo th CIA o prwhn arxhgos ths oti edwse 10 onomata. Ayta ta 10 onomata yparxoyn h den yparxoyn;

REPPAS: Gia to qema ayto apanthsa molis prin. Me thn eykairia ths erwthshs sas, ypenqymizw oti einai se ejelijh h diadikasia aithmatos dikastikhs syndromhs. Efoson qa oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia, qa prosferqei h dynatothta ston en logw ajiwmatoyxo na kataqesei o,ti sxetiko gnwrizei. Kai an pragmatika exei ypoch toy sygkekrimena onomata ypoptwn gia tromokratikes energeies, mporei kai ayto to stoixeio na to kataqesei, me tetoio tropo, wste emeis, exontas ayto to stoixeio sth diaqesh mas, na to ajiopoihsoyme. Giati, ayth h syzhthsh, h opoia ginetai @as moy epitrapei h lejh- ``ejwdikws'', oxi mono den bohqaei, alla pisteyw oti epiteinei th sygxysh. Qa prepei na apofygoyme, idiaiterws ayth thn periodo, mia syzhthsh, mesw aytwn twn yponooymenwn poy den odhgoyn poyqena. Antiqetws, qa elega, prosferoyn arnhtikh yphresia opoioi meterxontai tetoia mesa, prokeimenoy na proseggisoyn to qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati oi Amerikanoi qeloyn ayth th sygxysh;

REPPAS: Den eipe kaneis tetoio pragma. Ayto to opoio, omws, eipa kai to epanalambanw, einai toyto: An pragmatika yparxoyn stoixeia, ta opoia kapoios ta gnwrizei kai mesw aytwn mporoyme na fqasoyme se ena aisio apotelesma, sthn prospaqeia poy edw kai polla xronia kanoyme, parakalw na ta qesei ypoch mas. Emeis kanoyme ayth thn ``epiqetikoy'' xarakthra kinhsh na zhthsoyme dikastikh syndromh apo th kybernhsh twn HPA, prokeimenoy na exoyme ypoch mas ayta ta opoia alloi lene oti gnwrizoyn. As doyme, loipon, poia einai ayta ta stoixeia, ta opoia exoyn sth diaqesh toys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta kanalia poy dinoyn ayta ta stoixeia, einai o prwhn arxhgos ths CIA kai agnwstos paragontas toy Steht Ntipartment, o opoios bghke kai eipe oti palia edwsan onomata ston Andrea Papandreoy kai oti emeinan ekei.

REPPAS: Profanws, h anafora ayth qa einai apolyta sxetikh me ta osa rwthse o k. Karelias. Sas eipa oti ola ayta ta stoixeia, ta opoia eixe sth diaqesh ths h kybernhsh toy k. Mhtsotakh, doqhkan sthn kybernhsh poy anadeixqhke meta tis ekloges toy 1993 kai apoteloyn stoixeia enos fakeloy, ton opoio exei sth diaqesh toy o armodios eisaggeleas toy Areioy Pagoy. Exei probei se dikastikes energeies kai anakriseis. Ta apotelesmata einai gnwsta h mallon den einai gnwsta. Den exoyn prokycei apotelesmata. Den prepei na ypokatasthsoyme tis Arxes sto ergo to opoio toys exoyme anaqesei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, h anakrish egine kai den bghke tipota. Ayto qelete na moy peite.

REPPAS: Htan toso safh ayta poy eipa kai den ta eipa mia fora.

MIXAHL: Lete na mhn synexizetai ejwdikws ayth h syzhthsh. Omws, oi aformes yparxoyn kai den einai mono ayto kaq` ayto to tromokratiko xtyphma, einai to gegonos oti, apo thn perasmenh Pempth mexri shmera, den yparxei kanena apotelesma, estw stoixeio, poy as mhn odhghsei poyqena, toylaxiston kati, oyte kan h motosikleta den exei breqei me thn opoia diefygan, opws legetai, oi drastes. Gi` ayto to logo, loipon, kapoioi anarwtioyntai pws einai dynato, apo th mia na diabebaiwnete oti ola qa ginoyn, th stigmh poy den mporeite na breite -ennow oi armodies yphresies, oxi eseis- oyte ayto to stoixeio. Dhladh, oysiastika yparxei aformh gia th syzhthsh. Den kanoyn tipota oi armodies arxes. Kai ara, den blepoyme apo poyqena fws, oti kati kanoyn gia na poyme oti entajei, stamatame ki emeis.

REPPAS: Parabiazete anoixtes portes. Eipa, edw kai arketes hmeres, oti kai emeis oi idioi den eimaste ikanopoihmenoi apo ta apotelesmata. Giati, mexri twra, poy syzhtoyme den yparxoyn apotelesmata. Ayth h anapotelesmatikothta, asfalws, einai ena arnhtiko gegonos. To eixame epishmanei kai emeis. Den exei kamia sxesh, omws, ayth h anapotelesmatikothta me th staqerh kai isxyrh boylhsh mas na antimetwpisoyme apo koinoy, oloi oi Ellhnes, kybernhsh, kommata, koinwnikoi kai epaggelmatikoi foreis kai na ejaleicoyme th mastiga ths tromokratias. Giati, antilambaneste pws h syzhthsh poy ginetai apotelei, se megalo baqmo, kai mia dikh proqesewn twn ekastote ellhnikwn kybernhsewn. Ayto einai to opoio den epitrepoyme. Asfalws, apo ekei kai pera, emeis oi idioi gnwrizoyme oti den exoyme ta apotelesmata poy epiqymoyme. Kai prepei h prospaqeia mas na einai to idio kai perissotero entatikh. Alla, den epitrepoyme opoiadhpote amfisbhthsh ths isxyrhs boylhshs mas, na fqasoyme se ayto to apotelesma.

MIXAHL: O Prwqypoyrgos, synantwntas toys politikoys arxhgoys, qa toys qesei to qema ths tromokratias kai qa zhthsei th synainesh toys, th symparastash toys kai th symporeysh toys gia thn patajh ths tromokratias;

REPPAS: Den einai ayto to antikeimeno twn synanthsewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys politikoys arxhgoys. Oi synanthseis aytes eixan apofasistei kai programmatistei prin ekdhlwqei ayto to qlibero peristatiko. O Prwqypoyrgos den mporei na gnwrizei an oi politikoi arxhgoi qa diatypwsoyn kapoies apoceis kai gi` ayto to qema, sto plaisio twn synanthsewn toys. O Prwqypoyrgos, loipon, den protiqetai na qesei tetoio qema. Den mporei na apotelesei antikeimeno syzhthshs, di` aytoy toy tropoy kai ayth th stigmh, se ena tetoio epipedo, to sygkekrimeno zhthma. Apo thn allh, omws, prepei na einai safhs kai h dikh mas epilogh, h opoia symfwnei me tis epiloges olwn twn kommatwn kai twn allwn forewn ths xwras mas, oti to qema ayto qa prepei na to antimetwpisoyme, sto plaisio mias eyrytaths symfwnias. Giati, h Ellada, o ellhniko laos, h ellhnikh koinwnia, einai qyma ths tromokratias. Ara, qa prepei apo koinoy na antimetwpisoyme kai na ejaleicoyme ayto to fainomeno.

MIXAHL: O Prwqypoyrgos exei thn proqesh na toys pei oti yparxei ayto to problhma kai zhtw th symparastash sas;

REPPAS: Ma, den apanthsa;

MIXAHL: Moy lete oti den mporei na einai antikeimeno ths syzhthshs.

REPPAS: Sas eipa, oti den einai aytos o logos poy programmatisthkan aytes oi synanthseis, oyte o Prwqypoyrgos protiqetai, se ayto to epipedo, ayth th stigmh, na syzhthsei ayto to qema. Alla, asfalws, den mporei na gnwrizei an enas politikos arxhgos qesei ena tetoio qema. Den mporei na to apagoreyseis. Gia thn wra, prepei na krathsete thn epilogh mas, poy mas briskei oloys symfwnoys, na antimetwpisoyme apo koinoy kai na ejaleicoyme ayth th mastiga.

PARIS: Den problhmatizei thn kybernhsh oti, isws, oi dikastikes arxes foboyntai na proxwrhsoyn se ereynes gia thn ``17N''; Na pw ena sygkekrimeno paradeigma, o makariths eisaggeleas Tsebas eixe syntajei mia ekqesh, peripoy 150 selidwn. To reportaz, tote, elege oti ta stoixeia htan diastayrwmena. Telika, ejafanisthkan ta panta. Problhmatizei thn kybernhsh oti oi eisaggelikes arxes foboyntai na proxwrhsoyn se ayth thn ereyna;

REPPAS: Den dexomaste oti oi eisaggelikoi leitoyrgoi, oi Ellhnes dikastes, foboyntai na epitelesoyn to kaqhkon toys, epeidh akribws prepei na xeiristoyn mia ypoqesh, poy einai pragmati dyskolh. Ayto, omws, den shmainei oti toys prokalei tetoio deos, wste na apofeygoyn na to antimetwpisoyn. Den to dexomaste ayto.

PARIS: Skeftetai h kybernhsh na proxwrhsei se kapoio programma prostasias martyrwn, opws ginetai se alles xwres, wste na mporesei na proselkysei atoma ta opoia isws exoyn dei, isws exoyn akoysei kati kai foboyntai na to kataqesoyn;

REPPAS: Apanthsa tis prohgoymenes hmeres se sxetikes erwthseis. Eipa oti to qesmiko plaisio krinetai eparkes. Bebaiws, oriakes beltiwseis, poy mporei mesw aytwn na odhghqoyme se kalytera apotelesmata, ejetazontai apo thn kybernhsh. Den exoyn lhfqei sygkekrimenes apofaseis. Ta qemata ayta mporei na apotelesoyn antikeimeno syzhthshs se ena eyrytero plaisio, wste na epityxoyme mia synainetikh proseggish sth lhch twn metrwn aytwn, prin apo thn efarmogh toys.

PAPADOPOYLOS: To mnhmonio qa to ypogracete telika;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti to periexomeno toy mnhmonioy exei symfwnhqei. Einai qema diadikastiko gia na antimetwpistoyn orismenes praktikes leptomereies kai na ypografei to mnhmonio se eyqeto xrono.

KAPPOS: Eipate, prwton, oti den dexeste to oti oi eisaggelikoi leitoyrgoi foboyntai, kai deyteron, oti den yparxoyn, en pash periptwsei, mexri twra apotelesmata se o,ti ereynes exoyn ginei mexri twra, astynomikes, dikastikes se sxesh me to legomeno antitromokratiko agwna, me to isxyon, ews twra, nomiko plaisio kai oles tis sxetikes nomoqetikes diatajeis. Efoson, mexri twra, to plaisio kalws h kakws exei leitoyrghsei, aplws den exoyn yparjei apotelesmata@

REPPAS: Giati den kanete eyqews thn erwthsh sas;

KAPPOS: Aplws, diasafhnizw ayta ta opoia me odhgoyn sto na kanw thn erwthsh moy. Qelw na kanw prohgoymenws antilhpta orismena pragmata.

REPPAS: Den einai ayto to nohma ths syzhthshs mas edw, sas parakalw. Diatypwste apla thn erwthsh sas.

KAPPOS: Ton tropo me ton opoio qa kanw egw thn erwthsh moy, epitrecte moy na ton epilejw egw.

REPPAS: Gnwrizoyme oloi ti einai erwthsh kai ti einai sxolio h anaptyjh mias epixeirhmatologias. Kante erwthsh sas parakalw.

KAPPOS: To sxolio qa to gracw sthn efhmerida moy. H erwthsh moy einai h ejhs: Efoson dexqhkate ayta ta pragmata prohgoymenws, ti nohma exoyn aytes oi oriakes `allages, tis opoies ejaggeilate, thn Paraskeyh kai tis opoies epanalambanete shmera;

REPPAS: Einai kati poy pisteyoyme oti ajizei na to antimetwpisoyme. Gi ayto to kanoyme.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Alhqeyei oti h prwinh proseyxh kai o eqnikos ymnos ths Elladas exoyn katarghqei apo to kratiko Radiofwno;

REPPAS: Pragmatika den gnwrizw ti perilambanei sto programma toy to kratiko Radiofwno, giati den katartizw egw to programma toy.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Pairnw aformh apo mia erwthsh boyleyth ths N.D@

REPPAS: Exei katateqei tetoia erwthsh;

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Malista, katateqhke shmera tetoia erwthsh. To qema, ws qema, yfistatai;

REPPAS: Pragmatika den gnwrizw kai den asxoloymai me to pws diamorfwnoyn ta programmata toys oi radiofwnikoi staqmoi. Kai den einai ayto qema ths kybernhshs. Kai an exei prokycei, asfalws, den exei prokycei twra. Etsi h opoia epixeiroymenh sysxetish me tis prosfates epiloges gia thn ekdosh taytothtwn einai apolytws adikaiologhth. Giati profanws, o kataqetwn thn erwthsh prospaqei na sysxetisei to periexomeno ths erwthshs toy, me tis teleytaies prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs, pragma to opoio einai anepitrepto.

GARGALAKOS: H kybernhsh kanei to programma ths ERA;

REPPAS: Gi ayto akribws lew oti einai aparadekth kai adikaiologhth ayth h sysxetish.

MIXAHL: Telika erxetai sthn Ellada o ekptwtos basilias gia thn khdeia toy Tzitzikwsta;

REPPAS: Oi yphresies ths kybernhshs den exoyn opoiadhpote epafh me ton idio h ekproswpo toy, wste na gnwrizoyn an qa erqei sthn Ellada gia thn khdeia toy prwhn ypoyrgoy ths N.D.

MIXAHL: Omws, eseis, ws ekproswpos, mas diabebaiwnete ayta. To ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn leei oti, symfwna me plhrofories toy, erxetai.

REPPAS: Exei dhmosieyqei oti qa erqei. Den yparxei opoiadhpote allh plhroforia. Sas lew, loipon, gia na exete thn teleytaia plhroforhsh, oti ta idia ta melh ths oikogeneias toy qanontos, lene oti den qa erqei telikws. Ara, loipon, mh biazeste. Oloi gnwrizoyme ta sxetika apo dhmosieymata. Epishmws den exei apeyqynqei se yphresia toy kratoys kapoios ek meroys toy Kwnstantinoy, prokeimenoy na qesei sxetika qemata.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

Shmeiwsh: O Ypoyrgos Typoy & MME, se grapth erwthsh ths efhmeridas ``H AYGH'', edwse thn ejhs apanthsh:

ERWTHSH: Sth Nea Kio Argolidas to dhmotiko symboylio exei labei apofash symfwna me thn opoia periorizetai h eisodos sthn polh se tsigganoys. Epitrepetai monon an eiserxontai kata monas. Gia thn efarmogh ths apofashs, malista, yparxoyn kataggelies oti katoikoi ths perioxhs exoyn ypokatasthsei tis epishmes astynomikes arxes, analambanontas na kanoyn enoples peripolies. Katopin toytwn, h erwthsh mas einai: H Nea Kios ypagetai sto ellhniko Syntagma kai toys nomoys ths Ellhnikhs Dhmokratias h brisketai ektos ellhnikhs epikrateias; Ti prokeitai na kanei h kybernhsh gia na antimetwpisei ayth thn katastash;

APANTHSH: To qema egkeitai stis armodiothtes ths Nomarxiakhs Aytodioikhshs ths Argolidas. Se syskech poy egine, stis 2 Ioynioy, ypo to Nomarxh, me symmetoxh forewn ths Aytodioikhshs kai ekproswpwn twn aqigganwn, apofasisthke h egkatastash twn aqigganwn se lyomena kai h anazhthsh monimhs lyshs gia thn egkatastash toys, mesw ths lhchs daneiwn kai ths oikodomhshs se prosferomenoys xwroys. Thn idia hmera egine episkech ston kataylismo gia na diapistwqei h pragmatikh katastash. Fainetai pws exei epiteyxqei h ejomalynsh ths, xwris na leipoyn kai fainomena proswpikwn antidikiwn poy prepei na ejetastoyn kata periptwsh, sto plaisio toy poinikoy nomoy. H Kybernhsh antimetwpizei oloys toys Ellhnes polites isotima kai merimna, wste oi armodies perifereiakes yphresies na epilysoyn ta problhmata poy syxna apoteloyn kai thn aitia gia thn ekdhlwsh tetoiwn kroysmatwn.


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