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Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-11-12

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 12 Noembrioy 2001

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YFYPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

THLEMAXO XYTHRH

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos pragmatopoiei, shmera kai ayrio, epishmh episkech sth Slobakia. Shmera, stis 10.45, eixe synanthsh me to Prwqypoyrgo ths Slobakias. Stis 11.30, edwse synenteyjh Typoy stoys dhmosiografoys, enw ayth thn wra, parakaqetai se epishmo geyma me ton Prwqypoyrgos ths Slobakias. Stis 4 to apogeyma, exei synanthsh me ton Proedro toy Koinoboylioy ths Slobakias. O Prwqypoyrgos epistrefei ayrio to apogeyma.

Sthn episkech ayth qa ejetastoyn ta dimerh qemata. Opws gnwrizete, h Slobakia epidiwkei, opws kai oi alles xwres ths Anatolikhs Eyrwphs, na entaxqei, kapoia stigmh, sthn enwmenh Eyrwph.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

ARGYROS: Stis diapragmateyseis poy ginontai gia to onoma twn Skopiwn, kykloforei ek neoy to senario oti qa yparxei ena onoma, to opoio qa to xrhsimopoioyme emeis gia th xwra ayth kai oloi oi ypoloipoi qa xrhsimopoioyn to onoma "Makedonia".

XYTHRHS: Den yparxei tetoio senario. Oi diapragmateyseis, opws gnwrizete, synexizontai ypo thn aigida toy OHE. Ginetai prospaqeia na breqei dieqnhs onomasia toy kratoys twn Skopiwn.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Qelw na rwthsw, ean sas problhmatizei to gegonos oti apo ta apotelesmata toy deyteroy meroys ths dhmoskophshs "Opinion" poy dhmosieyei shmera h "Eleyqerotypia", kybernhsh kai antipoliteysh emfanizontai na mhn exoyn megales diafores sta shmantika kai krisima zhthmata toy topoy.

XYTHRHS: Oi diafores einai gnwstes kai orates. Genikws, omws, gia th dhmoskophsh, pera apo tis dhlwseis poy exoyn ginei apo stelexh ths kybernhshs kai apo ton ypoyrgo Typoy k. Prwtopapa, qa moy epitrecete na sas pw oti h dhmoskophsh ayth ejetazetai apo oloys, opws einai kai swsto. An, omws, thn koitajoyme sta epimeroys shmeia ths, anaferei oti katallhloteros Prwqypoyrgos einai o k. Shmiths kai ikanotero komma gia th diakybernhsh einai to PASOK. Anaferei, oti sto qema ths proqeshs chfoy einai yper ths Neas Dhmokratias. Sto shmeio ayto, qa hqela na sas epanalabw oti oi ekloges qa ginoyn to 2004. Apo ekei kai pera, yparxei mia anakamch ths kybernhshs poy einai orath. Mporei opoiosdhpote na kanei sygkrish me prohgoymenes dhmoskophseis. Oson afora tis dhlwseis stelexwn ths N.D., sxetika me th dhmoskophsh, den exw na sxoliasw tipota. Qa elega oti exoyn kaqe dikaiwma na "oneireyontai".

ANANIADHS: Den sas problhmatizei to gegonos oti, enw oi Olympiakoi Agwnes tiqentai ws prwth proteraiothta apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, sthn idia dhmoskophsh anaferetai oti mono to 6% endiaferetai h toys antimetwpizei ws prwth proteraiothta;

XYTHRHS: Oi Olympiakoi Agwnes einai, ontws, prwth proteraiothta gia thn kybernhsh. Epeidh ginetai polys logos gia thn proetoimasia toys tis teleytaies hmeres -kai malista enocei ths ayrianhs syzhthshs poy qa ginei sth Boylh, opoy o ypeyqynos ypoyrgos k. Benizelos qa apanthsei se aitiaseis ths N.D.- pisteyw oti oi Olympiakoi Agwnes apasxoloyn kai qa apasxoloyn kaqe mera kai perissotero ton ellhniko lao. H symmetoxh toy ellhnikoy laoy qa einai telikws poly megalh, qa elega kaq` oloklhria, sthn proetoimasia toys. Gnwrizete thn anakoinwsh poy ejedwsa xqes gi` ayta ta qemata, opws kai tis apanthseis poy edwse o k. Benizelos. Qa hqela na epanalabw oti oi Olympiakoi Agwnes qa ginoyn me kaqe epityxia. Yparxoyn kapoies dyskolies sthn proetoimasia toys kai einai fysiko na yparxoyn. Opws eipe kai o Proedros ths DOE se xqesinh synenteyjh toy sth "Gardian" -kai anaferw kata lejh ti eipe o k. Rongk- "exoyme twra thn pepoiqhsh oti oi Agwnes qa einai epityxhmenoi". Kai ayto pisteyw leei polla.

H N.D., apo thn pleyra ths, exei epilejei na kanei antipoliteysh sto PASOK kai ston tomea ayto, se ena qema poy einai eqniko kai to paradexomaste oloi oti einai ena eqniko qema. Qa elega oti akoloyqei arnhtikh taktikh apenanti sthn prospaqeia poy kanei h kybernhsh -alla kai h xwra- gia thn proetoimasia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Ayth thn arnhtikh taktikh thn akoloyqei apo to parelqon. Epanalambanw oti kai sto parelqon, sthn prospaqeia ths xwras gia thn entajh ths sthn ONE, htan arnhtikh, yposthrizontas oti kati tetoio den qa to kataferei h Ellada. Bebaiws, to kataferame. Apo thn 1.1.2002 qa kykloforei to Eyrw sth xwra mas. Epishs, h N.D. htan arnhtikh, oson afora to METRO, to opoio omws ylopoihqhke. Prokeitai gia ena ejairetiko ergo to opoio malista, opws jerete, proekteinetai kai me alloys staqmoys. To idio arnhtikh htan h N.D. kai gia to neo aerodromio "Eleyqerios Benizelos". Einai genikws arnhtikh. Emeis thn kaloyme na einai qetikh gia to kalo ths xwras. Na allajei ayth thn taktikh ths arnhshs kai ths katastrofologias.

GARGALAKOS: Egine mia endiaferoysa periodeia toy arxhgoy ths N.D. sthn Krhth kai malista akoysthkan apo ekei kai kathgories kata ths kybernhshs. Milhse o k. Karamanlhs gia "koyrasmenh kybernhsh poy den exei na prosferei tipota" kai malista thn kathgorhse gia kaqestwtikh antilhch. Exete kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

XYTHRHS: O k. Karamanlhs profanws mporei na kanei kritikh sthn kybernhsh, me ton tropo toy. Oytws h allws, einai arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Parakoloyqhsa tis omilies poy ekane sthn Krhth kai qa hqela na kanw kapoies parathrhseis. Prwton, dhlwse oti aisqanetai Lasiqiwths. Toy apantw oti, eytyxws poy oi Lasiqiwtes den aisqanontai Karamanlikoi. Deyteron, dhlwse kata lejh oti "pisteyw poly sto qesmo ths Aytodioikhshs". Qelw na ypenqymisw oti ayto legetai ek twn ysterwn. Dioti, otan chfizotan sth Boylh o nomos "Kapodistrias", h N.D. apoxwrhse apo thn chfoforia. Taytoxrona, qelw na tonisw o,ti exei ginei sthn Topikh Aytodioikhsh A@, B@ G@ baqmoy, exei ginei apo tis kybernhseis toy PASOK. Triton, dhlwse oti "einai eykairia gia th xwra to G` K.P.S.". Ypenqymizw kai pali oti to G` K.P.S. to petyxe h kybernhsh toy PASOK kai proswpika o Prwqypoyrgos, diapragmateyomenos me thn E.E. Tote o k. Karamanlhs kai h N.D. ekanan kai pali arnhtikh kritikh sthn kybernhsh gia thn prospaqeia ths ayth. To allo poy tonizei synexws o k. Karamanlhs se kaqe omilia toy, einai na jexasoyme to parelqon. Oysiastika yposthrizei oti to komma ths N.D, einai komma toy mesaioy xwroy. Me ayto ton tropo, kalei toys kentrwoys na pacoyn na einai kentrwoi, na jexasoyn kai na chfizoyn Dejia. Pisteyw oti thn apanthsh qa thn parei stis ekloges.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate, xqes, oti oi parathrhseis toy k. Osbalnt einai gnwstes. Dhladh, jerate kai afhsate na dei aytes tis elleiceis poy yparxoyn sta Olympiaka Erga; Ti ennoeite "einai gnwstes";

XYTHRHS: Eipa "einai gnwstes", dioti oi parathrhseis poy kanei h Syntonistikh Epitroph poy episkeptetai th xwra, ginontai gnwstes sthn kybernhsh. Kai h kybernhsh syzhta aytes tis parathrhseis sth Diypoyrgikh Epitroph. Epomenws, h kybernhsh lambanei ta metra ths kai dinei tis apanthseis ths sthn prajh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ektote, lete oti yparxei proodos sta sygkekrimena erga. Poia einai ayta ta erga;

XYTHRHS: Yparxei proodos se ola ta erga.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia poia; Milate gia sygkekrimena erga;

XYTHRHS: Genikotera sthn proetoimasia, yparxoyn dyskolies. Tis exoyme anaferei epaneilhmmenws. Yparxoyn prosfyges apo thn pleyra politwn, exoyn ginei prosfyges apo dhmoys gia diafora erga. Yparxoyn dyskolies, dioti gia orismena erga yphrje anagkh na ginoyn se kapoio allo xwro apo ton arxika prokaqorismeno, opote htan dikaiologhmenh mia kaqysterhsh. Gia paradeigma, kapoia erga poy eixan programmatistei gia thn perioxh toy Sxoinia den qa ginoyn ekei, qa kataskeyastoyn alloy. Alla, se kaqe periptwsh, ta erga proxwroyn. Leptomerhs apanthsh gia ola ayta ta qemata qa doqei ayrio sthn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs, apo ton armodio ypoyrgo Eyaggelo Benizelo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mporeite na moy peite, ean qa ginoyn ola ta olympiaka erga kai ola ta erga ypodomhs poy eixan apofasistei;

XYTHRHS: Qa oloklhrwqoyn ola ta olympiaka erga. Oi Olympiakoi Agwnes qa ginoyn kai qa einai kai epityxhmenoi. Den prepei na yparxei amfisbhthsh apo kanenan oti den qa oloklhrwqoyn ta olympiaka erga kai epomenws, qa yparxei kindynos gia thn telesh toys. Mia tetoia skech qa prepei apolytws na apokleistei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn plhrofories oti kapoia erga kobontai, kapoies gefyres kai kapoioi dromoi kobontai. Yparxei ayto to endexomeno;

XYTHRHS: Ayto poy lete den exei sxesh me ta olympiaka erga, ayta kaq` ayta. Me aformh toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, h kybernhsh apofasise na kanei anaplash olhs ths perioxhs ths Attikhs kai eidikotera ths polhs twn Aqhnwn. Ayta ta erga qa ylopoihqoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Akoysa oti kobontai kapoies gefyres. Kati tetoio akoysa.

XYTHRHS: Den kobontai. Yparxei, omws, periptwsh se kapoio ergo na ginei kapoia allagh, na exoyme dhladh mia enallaktikh lysh.

KOYIN: Ws kaq` ylhn armodios ypoyrgos, mporeite na mas peite, ean h kybernhsh exei etoimasei oles tis apanthseis stis erwthseis poy zhthqhkan apo ton k. Osbalnt kai ean qa tis paroysiasei thn epomenh ebdomada;

XYTHRHS: Stis 21 Noembrioy erxetai o k. Osbalnt epikefalhs ths Syntonistikhs Epitrophs. H Diypoyrgikh Epitroph qa synedriasei thn erxomenh Tetarth. Den qa hqela na epektaqw, alla epeidh me anaferate ws armodio gia thn epikoinwnia, epitrecete moy na sas pw oti exei poly megalh shmasia h probolh twn O.A. toso sto ejwteriko, oso kai sth xwra mas. H synergasia twn armodiwn ypoyrgeiwn me thn epitroph proetoimasias toy ``AQHNA 2004'' gia thn probolh ayth, exei poly megalh shmasia.

KOYIN: Me toys 15 Aggloys, mhpws jerete ti ginetai; Exoyn syllabei 15 Aggloys gia kataskopia.

XYTHRHS: Nomizw oti den einai mono Aggloi, einai kai Ollandoi. Aytes einai oi prwtes plhrofories poy exw sygkentrwsei. Ta atoma ayta fwtografizan sthn Kalamata mia aeroporikh bash. Epomenws, synelhfqhsan, katasxeqhke to fwtografiko yliko kai odhghqhkan, symfwna me thn ellhnikh nomoqesia, ston eisaggelea. Ayth th stigmh poy milame apologoyntai ston eisaggelea, ginetai h sxetikh anakrish.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Sthn idia efhmerida poy dhmosieyqhkan oi dhlwseis toy k. Rongk, yparxei kai ena sxolio poy proballei to problhma poy yparxei metajy ths kas Aggelopoyloy kai ths kybernhshs. Rwthsa, dyo-treis fores, ton ypoyrgo Typoy na moy bebaiwsei ean yparxei ontws paraithsh ths kas Aggelopoyloy kai aplws diathreitai se ena epipedo isorropiwn kai den anakoinwnetai. To deytero erwthma moy poy exei sxesh me toys O. A. kai ta erga, einai kata poio tropo proxwrhse h kybernhsh sthn anaqesh ths gefyras se ayto to megalo diakekrimeno Ispano arxitektona kai yperphdhse ola ta grafeiokratika empodia kai tis desmeyseis. Giati den prokhryxqhke enas dieqnhs diagwnismos h giati den protimhqhkan Ellhnes arxitektones; Kai ena trito erwthma, poy exei sxesh me to EYRW kai me thn ONE, epeidh mas ta proballete kata entono tropo ola ayta ta erga kai einai anamfisbhthta, den blepw antistoixia me thn pragmatikothta. Yparxei kapoios ypeyqynos na mas pei ti ginetai me ayth thn kykloforiakh symforhsh; Pws qa jeperastei; Lete oti ginontai erga, h apanthsh poia einai; Exete gnwsh ths pragmatikothtas, ws kybernhsh, ayth th stigmh; O Prwqypoyrgos, shmera, gia na fqasei sto aerodromio to prwi ekane dyo wres me astynomia.

XYTHRHS: Oson afora to prwto erwthma sas, qelw na sas pw oti h ka Aggelopoyloy den ypebale thn paraithsh ths. Antiqetws, ws Proedros ths Epitrophs Proetoimasias twn O.A., einai poly shmantikh kai poly apotelesmatikh sto rolo ths. Oson afora to deytero erwthma sas, gia ola ayta exoyn doqei apanthseis, otan yphrje h sxetikh apofash. Sas parapempw se aytes.

PAPADOPOYLOS: H anaqesh einai nomotyph, dhladh;

XYTHRHS: Einai apolytws nomotyph. Den yphrje kamia antidrash apo kanenan sto qema ayto. Sto trito erwthma sas, apantw oti gnwrizete thn yparjh toy METRO kai poso exei bohqhsei sto kykloforiako h leitoyrgia toy. Jerete posoi sympolites mas kykloforoyn kaqhmerina me to METRO;

PAPADOPOYLOS: Jerw posoi talaipwroyntai.

XYTHRHS: Opws gnwrizete to METRO epekteinetai. Kai ayto einai qetiko. Paramenei ena problhma -kai qa symfwnhsw mazi sas- oson afora thn kykloforia pollwn idiwtikwn aytokinhtwn, kyriws sto kentro ths Aqhnas. Gnwrizete oti oi pwlhseis twn aytokinhtwn sth xwra mas, ta teleytaia xronia, exoyn shmeiwsei katakoryfh ayjhsh. Kaqe xrono pwloyntai peripoy 250.000 aytokinhta. Ayto dhmioyrgei ena problhma, to opoio prospaqoyme na lysoyme, prwton me ta erga poy ginontai kai ayta poy prokeitai na ginoyn. Deyteron, me to metro ths enallaktikhs kykloforias monwn-zygwn aytokinhtwn sto kentro, poy hdh efarmozetai. Kai triton, me thn epibolh apo th nomoqesia, ws aparaithths proypoqeshs gia kaqe neo ktirio poy xtizetai na diaqetei xwro gkaraz.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Sygnwmh, mia parenqesh se ayto, giati kai h enhmerwsh na einai xwris proswpikh aixmh. Ayto to erwthma poy sas ekana gia to kykloforiako, sthrizetai sta nea stoixeia sygkoinwniologwn poy lene oti anejarthtws twn ergwn aytwn, me ayth th dikaiologia poy lete kai poy einai poly swsth, me thn ayjhsh toy ariqmoy twn aytokinhtwn...

XYTHRHS: Ara, ayth den einai dikaiologia...

PAPADOPOYLOS: Dikaiologia me thn kalh ennoia. To 2004, pali qa exoyme to idio problhma, anejarthtws twn ergwn. Epomenws, den mporeite na mas ta lete ola rodina, dyo xronia, prin apo toys O.A...

XYTHRHS: Ma, den ta lew rodina, dexqhka oti yparxei problhma. Sas eipa, omws, oti ginontai diafores prospaqeies gia dhmioyrgia newn xwrwn staqmeyshs. Opws jerete, yparxei kai qa epektaqei -exei kanei sxetikes dhlwseis o ypoyrgos Metaforwn Xrhstos Berelhs- h lwrida poy qa akoloyqeitai apo ta Mesa Mazikhs Metaforas. Epishs, dromologeitai kai to ergo me to tram kai o proastiakos sidhrodromos, o perifereiakos dromos Ymhttoy, enw, parallhla oloklhrwnetai kai h ATTIKH Odos. Ola ayta den einai asfalws dikaiologies, einai mia pragmatikothta. Opws pragmatikothta einai, epishs, oti epeidh briskomaste se mia kalh oikonomikh katastash, agorazoyme aytokinhta, polles fores, peran toy enos, kai to gnwrizete.

PAPADOPOYLOS: H teleytaia erwthsh exei sxesh me to EYRW kai me ta aytokinhta. Apo thn Prwtoxronia kai meta qa diapistwsoyn oloi oi Ellhnes oti h diafora misqwn metajy twn Ellhnwn kai twn allwn Eyrwpaiwn politwn...

XYTHRHS: Ayth den einai erwthsh. Kanete sxoliasmo. Ayto mporeite na to kanete sto meso poy ergazeste.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Den kanw sxoliasmo. Qa labete metra gi ayto to qema; Dhladh, anaprosarmogh; Den einai sxoliasmos. Kai stis times gia kerdoskopia kai sthn ejiswsh twn misqwn.

XYTHRHS: H Ellada, apo thn 1h Ianoyarioy 2002, mpainei, mazi me 12 xwres akomh, sth zwnh toy EYRW. Sth xwra mas qa kykloforei to Eyrw. Ayto shmainei nomismatikh staqerothta, oikonomikh staqerothta kai proypoqesh gia anaptyjh. Shmainei, akoma kai sygkriseis, opws lete, toy epipedoy diabiwshs twn Eyrwpaiwn. Sygkliseis, oi opoies -opws epaneilhmmenws exei tonisei h kybernhsh- prokeitai na epiteyxqoyn. Ayto epidiwkoyme. Ta epomena xronia, me thn politikh poy efarmozoyme, eimai sigoyros oti qa to epityxoyme, wste na epiteyxqei h pragmatikh sygklish, metajy twn oikonomiwn twn xwrwn-melwn ths E.E. kai epomenws, toy biotikoy epipedoy olwn twn Eyrwpaiwn. Ayth thn periodo -kai to gnwrizete- yparxei mia ``calida''...

PAPADOPOYLOS: 60%-40%...

XYTHRHS: Oxi, einai 70%-100%.

Sas eyxaristw.


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