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Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-09-11

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 11 Septembrioy 2003

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

O Prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Shmiths apesteile syllyphthrio thlegrafhma -qa sas dianemhqei sto telos ths enhmerwshs- ston Prwqypoyrgo ths Soyhdias Gkoran Person, sygklonismenos apo thn tragikh apwleia, th dolofonia ths ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn Anna Lint. Me th seira mas, ekfrazoyme ta qerma syllyphthria mas sth soyhdikh kybernhsh kai to soyhdiko lao gi@ ayto to idiaitera tragiko gegonos.

Qa hqela na kanw treis eisagwgikes parathrhseis:

H prwth afora thn kataqesh orismenwn stoixeiwn, poy exoyn na kanoyn me thn epixeirhmatologia poy anaptyssei, shmera, h N.D., gyrw apo thn poreia sygklishs ths Elladas se orismenoys tomeis, kata thn periodo 2000-2004. Sygkekrimena, h N.D. leei -toylaxiston etsi emfanisthkan ta stelexh ths to prwi se orismenoys thleoptikoys staqmoys- oti nai men exei erqei h Xarta Sygklishs, h opoia periexei shmantika stoixeia, alla merika apo ayta qa eprepe -ta exoyme janapei dhqen- na exoyn ginei kata thn periodo 2000-2004. Epeidh ws gnwston h N.D., exontas kai to gnwsto politiko elleimma kai to elleimma strathgikhs, prospaqei na gantzwqei pisw apo diaforoys deiktes kai stoixeia, synhqws me ellipestath epityxia -gnwrizete allwste oti xqes apokalyfqhke pws diastreblwnei ta stoixeia ayta- mas dinei thn eykairia na anaptyjoyme pente shmeia poy apodeiknyoyn ti pragmatika egine se idiaitera eyaisqhtoys tomeis ths oikonomias kai ths koinwnias, kata thn periodo apo to 1999 mexri shmera.

-Arxizontas apo thn oikonomia, as jekinhsoyme apo to dhmosionomiko elleimma. Qelw na qymisw oti to 2000 to dhmosionomiko elleimma ths Elladas htan sto 1,9%, enw to 2002 einai sto 1,2%. Yparxei mia beltiwsh 0,7%. Thn idia periodo, omws, to dhmosionomiko elleimma sthn E.E. twn "15" -giati, pali, akoysa kapoion synadelfo sas na leei, xqes, se ena radiofwniko staqmo gia thn Eyrwph twn "25", enw h Xarta Sygklishs einai gia thn Eyrwph twn "15"- efqase sto 1,9%, paroysiazontas ayjhsh kata 2,7 posostiaies monades. Thn wra, loipon, poy to dhmosionomiko elleimma sthn Eyrwph ayjanotan, thn periodo 2000-2002, kata 2,7 posostiaies monades, to dhmosionomiko elleimma sthn Ellada epefte kata 0,7 posostiaies monades. Katalabainete thn terastia diafora, thn proodo poy shmeiwnei h xwra mas.

-Deytero shmeio: Dapanes koinwnikhs prostasias. To 1997 oi dapanes koinwnikhs prostasias htan sto 23,6% toy AEP. To 2000 htan sto 26,4% toy AEP. Shmera, me ta metra poy ejaggeilame, yperbainoyme pleon me to koinwniko paketo ths perasmenhs ebdomadas, to 28%. Eimaste, hdh, panw apo ton eyrwpaiko meso oro.

-Trito shmeio: Ryqmoi anaptyjhs. To 1996 o ryqmos ayjhshs toy AEP etrexe me 3,6%. To 2003 -gia to prwto trimhno, poy yparxoyn stoixeia- trexei me 4,4% kai ayth h allagh egine mesa se ayth thn tetraetia. Enw sthn Eyrwph, opws gnwrizete, h ayjhsh toy AEP trexei me 0,5%, sthn Ellada trexei -epanalambanw- me 4,4%.

-Tetarto shmeio: Apasxolhsh. Eixame desmeyqei oti qa dhmioyrghsoyme 300.000 eykairies apasxolhshs. Ylopoihsame th desmeysh mas apo to 2000 mexri to 2003, nai h oxi; "Nai" apantoyn ta epishma stoixeia toy ypoyrgeioy Ergasias. Mesa se ayta ta peripoy triamisi xronia dhmioyrghqhkan 324.367 eykairies apasxolhshs. Gi@ ayto kai h anergia phge apo to 11,5% sto 8,9%, symfwna kai me ta stoixeia ths Eqnikhs Statistikhs Yphresias kai ths EUROSTAT. Kai an kapoios me rwthsei gia to qetiko isozygio -dioti oi eykairies apasxolhshs einai aytes poy dhmioyrgoyntai kai mporei kapoios na moy pei "nai, alla xaqhkan kai kapoies"- ypogrammizw: To isozygio se ayth thn trietia, h diafora twn qesewn apasxolhshs poy dhmioyrghqhkan kai xaqhkan einai qetiko. H sygkrish einai qetikh. Einai "syn" sthn apasxolhsh, kata 69.000 qeseis ergasias. Akoyw merikes fores poy leei h N.D. oti meiwqhke h apasxolhsh. Den diabazoyn oyte ta stoixeia ths EUROSTAT. H apasxolhsh exei ayjhqei 1,7% ayth th xronia.

-Pempto kai teleytaio shmeio, epeidh anaferomaste, se sxesh me to eisodhma toy ellhnikoy noikokyrioy: H EUROSTAT orise ena deikth sto 100. To diaqesimo eisodhma toy ellhnikoy noikokyrioy, einai sto 97%. Einai konta, loipon, sto meso oro kai h Ellada einai kalytera apo alles pente xwres ths E.E.

Kai ayta eginan ayth thn tetraetia. Kala qa kanei, loipon, h N.D. to elleimma strathgikhs ths, to elleimma ths politikhs ths, thn adynamia prwtoboyliwn ths, poy thn anagkazoyn na ginetai ysterografo ths politikhs mas, na mhn prospaqei na to dikaiologhsei me anyparkta, agnwsths proeleyshs h kai anajiopista stoixeia. Thn ekqetoyn anepanorqwta. Den timoyn, oyte aythn, oyte ton arxhgo ths, tetoies praktikes.

Deyterh eisagwgikh parathrhsh. Shmera, 11 Septembrioy, einai mia qliberh epeteios. Einai mia idiaitera tragikh epeteios gia ton amerikaniko lao kai bebaiws gia olh thn anqrwpothta. Qelw kai pali na ekfrasw ta syllyphthria mas stis oikogeneies twn qymatwn kai na tonisw oti h Ellada -giati nomizw oti ayto afora olo to eqnos mas- einai tagmenh ston agwna kata ths tromokratias, synergazetai me th dieqnh koinothta, metexei stis prospaqeies poy ginontai gia thn antimetwpish ths dieqnoys tromokratias, opws aytes kaqodhgoyntai sto plaisio poy kaqorizetai apo th dieqnh koinothta kai idiaitera apo ton OHE. Epishs, qelw na tonisw oti, ektos apo th dieqnh synergasia sthn opoia metexoyme kai qa metexoyme gia thn katapolemhsh ths tromokratias, idiaitera ths dieqnoys tromokratias, qa prepei na antimetwpisoyn -kai h E.E., alla kai alles megales dynameis toy kosmoy- idiaitera tis genesioyrges aities ths bias, ths misalodojias, toy fanatismoy, mesa apo thn anaptyjh ths agoras twn xwrwn toy Tritoy Kosmoy, mesa apo prospaqeies poy qa apoblepoyn sthn ejasfalish mias omalhs, staqerhs anaptyjiakhs poreias twn xwrwn opoy parathroyntai ayta ta problhmata, mesa apo epilysh twn dieqnwn sygkroysewn kai diaforwn me eirhniko tropo, mesa apo thn epibolh toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy, opws ayto kaqorizetai apo tis apofaseis kai to plaisio toy OHE, se olo ton kosmo. Dieqnhs synergasia, prospaqeia eirhnhs, antimetwpish twn diaforwn, anaptyjh, perissotero eisodhma, prepei na einai h dikh mas apanthsh apenanti stis aities poy gennoyn ayta ta fainomena, pera apo thn katapolemhsh twn organwsewn poy droyn me tromokratiko tropo.

Trith parathrhsh: O arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs episkefqhke shmera ena sxoleio. Bebaiws, kala ekane. Emaqa oti to apofasise, afoy gnwrize oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei kapoio allo. Einai h synhqhs praktikh toy ysterografoy. Epilogh toy. Qelw, omws, na parathrhsw kapoia pragmata, se sxesh me ayta poy eipe: Gia mia fora akomh, kai o k. Karamanlhs, me th gnwsth mizeria poy diakrinei to logo ths N.D., epixeirhse na emfanisei thn katastash sthn Paideia teleiws diaforetikh apo o,ti einai sthn pragmatikothta. Den exei, isws, antilhfqei thn terastia proodo poy exei syntelestei, th stigmh poy oloi omologoyn kai thn proodo kai thn idiaiterh enisxysh toy dhmosioy sxoleioy kai th shmantikh anabaqmish toy epipedoy twn gnwsewn poy prosferei. Ean, de, anhsyxei gia ta ktiria, mias kai phge sto 8o Lykeio, toy synistoyme na paei kai sth symbolh twn odwn Leykwsias kai Patmoy, opoy exoyn hdh arxisei oi ergasies gia th dhmioyrgia kai toy neoy ktirioy toy Lykeioy aytoy. Opws kai na to kanoyme, o k. Karamanlhs anazhta ti exei apomeinei apo to xqes. Emeis, anazhtoyme poso pio grhgora qa dhmioyrghsoyme to qetiko ayrio. Ayth einai h megalh diafora mas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

IWANNOY: Giati den kanonizoyn na phgainoyn mazi, gia na mhn kanoyme ki emeis, kaqe hmera, diplo kopo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Dioti o enas einai ysterografo toy alloy. Ti na kanoyme; Mporei na kanete diplo kopo kai to sebomai, alla o k. Karamanlhs kai h epilogh ayth ths N.D. einai ena ysterografo.

LAMPRAKOS: Gia toys treis poy synelhfqhsan sthn Kypro, qelw na sas rwthsw, oi opoioi dikazontai shmera me synoptikes diadikasies.

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxei amesh parembash toy ellhnikoy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. @Exete enhmerwqei gia to qema apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. O k. Papandreoy parenebh kai pros ton OHE kai pros kaqe armodio gia to qema. Parakoloyqoyme apo poly konta tis ejelijeis kai merimnoyme, bebaiws, gia thn prostasia twn dikaiwmatwn twn Ellhnwn politwn.

MOYRTHS: Eipate gia thn 11h Septembrioy kai qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean dyo xronia meta, meta apo dyo hmiteleis polemoys kai toys ypeyqynoys, opws eixe anaferqei, asyllhptoys, shmera kanontas to isozygio, eimaste pio konta sthn katapolemhsh ths tromokratias kai pio makria apo thn katapolemhsh twn aitiwn poy th gennoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayth h poreia einai kai dyskolh kai aparaithth. @Isws exoyn lhfqei polla metra gia thn katapolemhsh ths dieqnoys tromokratias. Sigoyra se ayton ton tomea -to gnwrizete- oles oi xwres lambanoyn metra kai h dieqnhs synergasia deixnei oti exoyn shmeiwqei shmantika bhmata. Bebaiws, den exoyn epilyqei polles perifereiakes sygkroyseis apo tis opoies prokaloyntai problhmata. Eginan kai polemoi poy anoigoyn tetoia metwpa. Prepei loipon, pera apo thn katapolemhsh ths tromokratias, poy einai aparaithth - ki emeis metexoyme se aythn - na staqoyme me idiaiterh prosoxh kai eyqynh sta zhthmata ths empedwshs ths eirhnhs, ths epilyshs twn perifereiakwn sygkroysewn, me eirhniko tropo - kai to tonizw ayto, giati einai ena shmeio poy prepei na prosexqei idiaitera - alla kai ths anaptyjhs ths eswterikhs agoras twn xwrwn aytwn. @Opoy yparxei ftwxeia, opoy yparxei polemos, opoy yparxei dystyxia, h misallodojia kai h tyflh bia kanoyn thn emfanish toys.

MOYRTHS: @Exoyme shmera kai mia allh epeteio, einai h epeteios twn 30 xronwn apo thn anatroph toy Aliente sth Xilh, me th synergia kai twn Amerikanwn. @Exete kati na peite kai gi' ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: @Exoyme katadikasei, opws gnwrizete, edw kai para polla xronia, ws PASOK, to prajikophma Pinoset. Parapempw kai stis tote omilies toy Andrea Papandreoy. Ayta poy epishmane tote, isxyoyn panta.

IWANNOY: Logw hmeras, yparxei kapoia anhsyxia apo thn amerikanikh Presbeia, exete enhmerwqei ws kybernhsh gia kapoia ektakta metra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Pantote lambanontai ta aparaithta metra. Tonizw oti sthn Ellada ta metra poy exoyme labei kai oi kinhseis poy kanoyme, mporei na mas bohqhsoyn kai na mas peisoyn oti eimaste mia asfalhs xwra. Qa synexisoyme etsi.

BITALHS: Mia dieykrinish qelw, anaforika me kapoia stoixeia poy paraqesate gia to qema ths apasxolhshs. Milhsate gia th dhmioyrgia 324.367 qesewn ergasias. Qelw na rwthsw, an aytes einai qeseis plhroys apasxolhshs h an se aytes synypologizete thn epoxikh apasxolhsh h thn apasxolhsh mesw Programmatwn Katartishs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den milw gia epoxikh apasxolhsh h gia Programmata Katartishs. Qelw na sas qymisw oti h desmeysh toy Prwqypoyrgoy htan 300.000 eykairies apasxolhshs, 300.000 eykairies katartishs anergwn kai 300.000 eykairies katartishs hdh apasxoloymenwn. Loipon, oi men 300.000 eykairies katartishs anergwn einai ena kefalaio, to opoio prepei na exei kleisei. Qa dwsoyme ta sxetika stoixeia. Oi 300.000 eykairies endoepixeirhsiakhs katartishs einai ena allo kefalaio, gia to opoio qa doqoyn epishs stoixeia. Shmera, edwsa ta stoixeia gia tis eykairies apasxolhshs, sta opoia den perilambanetai h katartish, oyte exei sxesh me to Ypoyrgeio Ergasias, me epoxikh ergasia. Den primodotei, den exei programmata kai politikes epoxikhs ergasias. @Ara, oyte katartish einai, oyte epoxikh. Einai qeseis ergasias, me o,ti ayto shmainei se mia oikonomia. Einai 324.367 eykairies prosbashs sthn agora ergasias, oi opoies doqhkan kai ajiopoihqhkan. Fysika, qa einai kai plhrhs kai merikh apasxolhsh. Alla, sas qymizw, oti to pososto merikhs apasxolhshs sthn Ellada einai idiaitera xamhlo, einai 4-5%.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Apo tis xqesines anakoinwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia th Xarta Sygklishs, katagracame 75 yposxeseis @

PRWTOPAPAS: Desmeyseis legontai. Ayto exei mia diaforetikh poiothta gia ton Kwsta Shmith.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Mia, loipon, apo tis 75 aytes desmeyseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy, afora, opws leei, thn ayjhsh toy prosdokimoy epibiwshs. Qa hqela na moy dwsete dieykriniseis: Qa zoyme perissotera xronia kai pws desmeyetai o Prwqypoyrgos gi' ayto; Exw to keimeno mprosta moy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas jekaqarisw to ejhs: Oi desmeyseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy akoysthkan xqes, apo ton idio. O Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke se 7 stoxoys gia th nea 4etia. Ayta einai ta shmeia, poy o Prwqypoyrgos desmeyqhke sth synenteyjh Typoy. H lejh "desmeyomai" exei sxesh me sygkekrimenoys posotikoys stoxoys kai me sygkekrimena zhthmata ta opoia prowqoyme. H lejh "desmeyomai" aforoyse ayto, poy sas eipa. Aytes einai oi desmeyseis poy analambanei kai aforoyn sygkekrimena zhthmata kai sygkekrimenoys stoxoys. Mesa sth Xarta, h opoia einai ena idiaitera ektetameno keimeno, yparxei kai mia seira apo epimeroys stoxoys - kai den aforoyn tis proswpikes desmeyseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy - poy apoteloyn genikotera zhthmata ths kybernhtikhs politikhs kai ths poreias mas, ths poreias anodoy ths ellhnikhs koinwnias kai ths poiothtas twn prosferomenwn yphresiwn gia ta epomena xronia. Mia ap' aytes tis desmeyseis afora kai th beltiwsh twn yphresiwn ygeias kai th genikoterh poreia gia thn epilysh twn problhmatwn poy antimetwpizoyme stoys xwroys aytoys. Ws apotelesma, symfwna me ta dieqnh stantar kai tis dieqneis statistikes ths beltiwshs twn yphresiwn ygeias kai genikotera ths frontidas, ths pronoias, oloy aytoy toy plegmatos, poy exoyme ta teleytaia xronia sthn Ellada, exoyme kai mia ayjhsh toy prosdokimoy epibiwshs, h opoia exei katagrafei -kai to gnwrizete- se oles tis dieqneis statistikes. Einai loipon, logiko apo th stigmh poy se olo ton kosmo, yparxei ayth h prosdokia, mesw ths beltiwshs twn yphresiwn, na ayjanetai kai to prosdokimo epibiwshs, na grafetai oti ws apotelesma aytwn twn politikwn kai ths beltiwshs twn yphresiwn, qa epelqei stadiaka - kai den kaqorizetai opws eidate - mia genikoterh ayjhsh toy prosdokimoy epibiwshs sthn Ellada. An ayto to shmeio enoxlei kapoion, den exei para na to qesei sto dialogo, o opoios ginetai gia th Xarta. Ayto to keimeno den einai to teliko, einai ena keimeno dialogoy, opws jekaqarise o Prwqypoyrgos. An kapoios pisteyei oti xreiazetai allagh se ayto to shmeio, qa dexqoyme tis parathrhseis toy kai eimaste etoimoi na kanoyme tis aparaithtes beltiwseis.

IWANNOY: Den desmeyetai@

PRWTOPAPAS: Ola ayta einai apotelesma ths beltiwshs twn parexomenwn yphresiwn ygeias sthn Ellada. Den einai metajy twn desmeysewn poy anefere xqes o Prwqypoyrgos. Eipe sygkekrimena pragmata kai sas parapempw sth synenteyjh toy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den enoxlei kanenan, alla hqela na qymisw kati allo: Palaiotera, otan syzhtoysame to Asfalistiko, o Prwqypoyrgos htan ekeinos poy eixe pei, anaferomenos sta problhmata poy yparxoyn, ti na kanoyme, zoyme kai perissotera xronia. Twra, mhpws dhmioyrghsei kapoio problhma sto Asfalistiko;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pate poly makria. Kat` arxas, to Asfalistiko exei kleisei. O Prwqypoyrgos den anaferqhke se anoigma toy Asfalistikoy. Anaferqhke se ena pragma, poy afora to Asfalistiko. Sthn eqelontikh paratash -kai to exw analysei, polles fores, edw- toy asfalistikoy bioy. Den sas dhmioyrghse problhmatismo giati o Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke mono se ena shmeio toy Asfalistikoy; Giati exei kleisei. Giati h lysh poy dwsame sto Asfalistiko einai lysh me orizonta panw apo 15 xronia. Kai primodotoyme shmantika ayth th lysh apo ton kratiko Proypologismo, ayjanontas tis koinwnikes dapanes. Gi@ ayto den miloyme gia megalh allagh sto Asfalistiko.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti isxyoyn mono oi desmeyseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto Zappeio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti oi desmeyseis poy anelabe proswpika o Prwqypoyrgos sth synenteyjh toy htan safeis. Olh h Xarta Sygklishs exei mia sygkrothmenh synolikh logikh poreia ths Elladas gia ta epomena xronia. Ayto exei teqei kai se dialogo me ton ellhniko lao. Emeis qewroyme oti me ayth th Xarta ftanoyme sth sygklish, se oikonomia kai koinwnia, me thn E.E. An se kapoia shmeia yparxoyn qetikes parathrhseis kai beltiwseis eimaste anoiktoi. Tonisame kai xqes oti einai plaisio dialogoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mesa sto plaisio toy dialogoy den einai oi desmeyseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi desmeyseis exoyn kai ena eidiko baros. Peran toy genikoteroy plaisioy dialogoy, oi proswpikes desmeyseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai ta elaxista poy qa ginoyn. Exei mia diaforetikh poiothta ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta ypoloipa ta syzhtame kai as mhn ginoyn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ta ypoloipa einai ena synoliko plaisio, to opoio syzhtame. Kapoia stigmh qa afaireqei kai h lejh "plaisio dialogoy", qa erqei h telikh Xarta. Kai ayth h Xarta qa eimaste desmeymenoi oti qa ylopoihqei sto akeraio. Pros to paron kai gia kapoioys mhnes einai se dialogo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos eixe desmeytei gia 300.000 qeseis ergasias plhroys apasxolhshs, tote. Exw thn omilia toy, opws to eixe pei, enw twra eseis mas lete gia 300.000 eykairies apasxolhshs. Allo qeseis kai allo eykairies.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas parapempw sthn omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, o opoios milhse gia 300.000 eykairies apasxolhshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den eipe "eykairies apasxolhshs". Eipe qa dhmioyrghsei "300.000 qeseis ergasias".

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi eykairies apasxolhshs einai kai qeseis ergasias. Ti shmainei "eykairies apasxolhshs"; O Prwqypoyrgos eipe "qa dwsoyme 300.000 nees eykairies apasxolhshs se neoys anqrwpoys". Zhtate na sas ermhneysw oti eykairia apasxolhshs shmainei kai qesh ergasias. Na dieykrinisw oti doqhkan 324.000 eykairies apasxolhshs mesa apo ta programmata toy ypoyrgeioy Ergasias. An twra me rwtate gia to isozygio twn newn qesewn ergasias poy dhmioyrghqhkan, se sxesh me aytes poy xaqhkan apo tis nees qeseis ergasias poy dhmioyrghsame, yphrxan kai kapoies apo katasthmata kai epixeirhseis poy ekleisan. Eixame desmeyqei oti qa dhmioyrghsoyme 300.000 kainoyrgies. Ayto kaname. Oson afora aytes poy xaqhkan, apantw oti aytes poy dhmioyrghqhkan, sygkrinomenes me aytes poy xaqhkan sthn trietia, dinoyn ena qetiko isozygio apasxolhshs 69.000 qesewn ergasias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo poy fainetai oti eginan aytes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo ta epishma stoixeia ths ESYE. Den xrhsimopoiw stoixeia etairiwn poy xrhsimopoiei o k. Roysopoylos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ths Statistikhs Yphresias, einai san ayta ths anergias, dhladh. Giati, alla leei h EUROSTAT kai alla leei h ESYE.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kanena sxolio.

IWANNOY: H basikh kritikh poy yparxei shmera stis efhmerides gia thn koinwnikh Xarta einai oti ola ayta, sta opoia desmeythke xqes o Prwqypoyrgos prepei na ginoyn mexri to 2008, einai ta aytonohta, wste na yparxei sygklish. Dhladh, kaqe kybernhsh eprepe na ta kanei ayta. Ti apantate;

PRWTOPAPAS: Xairomai poy moy dinete thn eykairia na apanthsw. Kat` arxas, den yparxoyn aytomatoi pilotoi. Apo ta stoixeia poy pareqesa, oi ejelijeis sthn Eyrwph, thn teleytaia trietia, den htan opws sthn Ellada. Dioti, sthn Enwmenh Eyrwph (twn "15" panta) to dhmosionomiko elleimma anebhke kata 2,7 posostiaies monades kai h anaptyjh einai sto 0,5%. Den yparxoyn ta idia apotelesmata pantoy. Ypoxrewsh ths xwras mas, mesa apo thn apofash ths Lisabonas, einai na sygklinoyme se mia seira qemata, tomeis, deiktes. Alla, kai ypoxrewsh ths xwras mas, gia paradeigma stis dapanes koinwnikhs prostasias, einai na ftasoyme to meso eyrwpaiko oro. Sth Xarta Sygklishs den milame gia to meso eyrwpaiko oro. Milame gia dapanes koinwnikhs prostasias 30%. O mesos eyrwpaikos oros einai gyrw sto 28%. Oson afora thn anergia, o mesos eyrwpaikos oros den einai sto 6%, einai parapanw, gyrw sto 8%. Emeis, loipon, den arkoymaste mono sthn ypoxrewsh ths Lisabonas na ftasoyme sto meso oro apasxolhshs kai anergias sthn Eyrwph. Desmeyomaste oti me aytoys toys ychloys ryqmoys anaptyjhs qa metoysiwsoyme thn anaptyjh se apasxolhsh kai qa meiwsoyme thn anergia sto 6%. Ayto einai poly pera apo th Lisabona. Qa mporoysa na dwsw kai allo paradeigma gia tis syntajeis, opws kai gia alloys tomeis. Ayto shmainei oti yperbainoyme thn politikh ths Lisabonas. Den eimaste mono sthn politikh twn meswn orwn. Se orismenoys tomeis poy mporoyme, opws einai h anergia, h koinwnikh prostasia h alloi tomeis, prospaqoyme na pame kalytera. Kai ayto, giati den qeloyme apla kai mono mia politikh, h opoia qa mas dwsei thn eykairia na poyme oti eimaste se mia mesh katastash kai to exoyme katakthsei. Anamfibola einai mia megalh katakthsh poy kaneis den mporei na thn ypobaqmisei. Emeis qeloyme na dhmioyrghsoyme thn eyhmeria toy Ellhna polith. Qeloyme na kanoyme thn Ellada isxyrh sthn kardia ths Eyrwphs. Na einai mia xwra antagwnistikh, dynath, me koinwnikh synoxh. An nomizei kaneis oti ayta ikanopoioyntai me aytomatoys pilotoys, den exei para na qymhqei ti epaqe o aytomatos pilotos sta xeria twn idiwn stelexwn, poy kanoyn shmera kritikh, thn periodo 1990-93. Dioti, an den kanw laqos, ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias htan tote o k. Soyflias kai hgetikh qesh sto Oikonomiko Epiteleio ths tote kybernhshs eixe o k. Alogoskoyfhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, twra, o k. Karamanlhs prepei na sas ypobalei to programma toy gia egkrish, kaqe mera;

PRWTOPAPAS: As to ypobalei ston ellhniko lao na to doyme kai qa syzhthsoyme gia ta ypoloipa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis eipate oti enoxlhste poy phgainei....

PRWTOPAPAS: Den enoxloymai kaqoloy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kaqe hmera, ta idia lete.

PRWTOPAPAS: Diapistwseis kanw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: An den eixate enoxlhqei, den qa miloysate.

PRWTOPAPAS: Milas, giati prepei na enhmerwseis toys polites.

MOYRTHS: Me aformh th syskech gia thn asfaleia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean thn asfaleia twn aqlhtikwn apostolwn qa analaboyn kai astynomikes dynameis apo tis xwres proeleyshs twn aqlhtikwn apostolwn h mono h EL.AS.

PRWTOPAPAS: An kapoios qelei na ferei kosmo mazi toy gia na episkefqei th xwra mas h gia na symmetasxei stoys agwnes, eite einai atoma gia thn asfaleia toy, eite alla atoma, dikaiwma toy na toys plhrwsei kai na to kanei. Eimaste mia eleyqerh xwra. An kapoia apostolh, aytoboylws, qelei na ferei kai anqrwpoys asfaleias mazi ths, giati etsi epeleje, dikaiwma ths. Den mporoyme na ths to apagoreysoyme.

MOYRTHS: Kai qa exoyn rolo asfaleias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ti qa kanoyn aytoi metajy toys, einai dikaiwma toys. Den mporoyme na apagoreysoyme, se mia eleyqerh xwra, na erqei kapoios edw. Apo ekei kai pera, an kapoios qelei na kykloforhsei sthn Ellada, qa kykloforhsei, symfwna me toys kanones, toys nomoys, tis diatajeis poy yparxoyn kai ta idiaitera metra poy qa exoyn lhfqei apo mas, sth diarkeia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Ara, thn eyqynh thn exoyn mono oi ellhnikes dynameis kai opoios qelei na prosarmostei se ola ayta, dikaiwma toy. H asfaleia, pantws, einai plhrws eggyhmenh.

Sas eyxaristw.


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